DXM for opiate w/d

[asplinteredfawn]

300mg per 30mg of methadone seemed about right or 600mg for about a 80$ dope habit.
Sure you are tripping, but at least your legs aren't kicking, nor are you sweating, .etc

Try it out, start with small doses.

Swim is kicking 3/10ths a gram of heroin + 30mg of methadone with 1 10th of heroin plus 300-600mg of DXM daily.

SWIM figured this out considering LAAM is Levomethorphan DXM is Dextromethorphan.

[Thebane]

300mg per 30mg of methadone seemed about right or 600mg for about a 80$ dope habit.
Sure you are tripping, but at least your legs aren't kicking, nor are you sweating, .etc

Try it out, start with small doses.

Swim is kicking 3/10ths a gram of heroin + 30mg of methadone with 1 10th of heroin plus 300-600mg of methadone daily.

Yeah, I noticed when I took a large dose of DXM at the beginning (not the worst part) of w/d that I felt almost normal except for the slight tripping. I could even lay down without feeling like complete shit and dosed for a little. At the very least it's a good distraction that diverts your attention from w/d and that helps a lot.

[TigerFan]

Don't you risk brain damage by taking DXM daily? Seems like a hefty price to pay so your legs feel better.

[imalgen]

You might want to check out Cats Claw(Uncaria) also, you can make a large decoction and store it in your fridge, then just pour yourself a glass every few hours as needed.

A combination of:
Cats Claw(Uncaria tomentosa/rhynchophylla) +
Linden leaf(Tilia tomentosa) +
Mulungu(Erythrina mulungu) +
Green Tea(Camellia sinensis) +
Passion flower(Passiflora species, caerulea is stated to have high chrysin %)
made into a strong concentrated liquid(decoction) can help keep away w/d depression, RLS, insomnia, cold sweats and more. Even better is to order isolates/extracts and combine those with whole plant material. (rhynchophylline + chrysin + l-theanine + mulungu 90% for starters).

As for consuming a NMDA product on a daily basis, the cats claw is a much safer route, and is quite effective in the correct (heavy handed) dosage. After years of DXM, im VERY glad i found cats claw and especially glad i found this combination.

[asplinteredfawn]

As for consuming a NMDA product on a daily basis, the cats claw is a much safer route, and is quite effective in the correct (heavy handed) dosage. After years of DXM, im VERY glad i found cats claw and especially glad i found this combination.

thanks so much.

[Papa Verine]

I've had great success with DXM myself. The first time I tried it was the best. My withdrawals went away, I got a burst of energy and euphoria, and at the right dose "Robo-tripping" wasn't too intense.

Fast forward a few months... DXM lost it's magic. For me anyway. The last time I used it as a withdrawal aid I puked my guts out and felt like shit.

It was great while it lasted anyway...

[asplinteredfawn]

i've been using 600mg of dxm every time i miss my methadone clinic which is about once every month. But now I'm kicked out of the methadone clinic at 30mg and can't afford my heroin habit. I'm going to see a suboxone doctor soon but it's so hard while bogue to make all those phone calls.

[dharma bum]

I've never tried a DXM trip but I have a bottle here for my cold. Not w/ding, just want to try it. Does taking an ssri have any effect on the DXM or vice-versa?

[TigerFan]

I've never tried a DXM trip but I have a bottle here for my cold. Not w/ding, just want to try it. Does taking an ssri have any effect on the DXM or vice-versa?

It's not advised to take DXM (especially a high dose like 600mgs) with an SSRI because of possible "serotonin syndrome."
http://www.dextroverse.org/faq/dxm_side_effects.html

I used to take dxm here and there back in high school. I couldn't imagine combining 600 mgs of dxm with opiate withdrawals. Sounds like hell on earth. I used to enjoy the lower doses (<300mgs) with pot, but anything over 500 mgs and I swear to god I forgot who I was.

@Dharmabum: DXM is without a doubt the strongest drug I've ever tried. I wouldn't recommend trying anything over 300 mgs if it's your first experience with the drug, and even then I would have someone with you if it's possible. Then again that's my opinion, take it or leave it. Also, make sure if you are going to try it, that what you are taking is dxm and dxm alone. A lot of cough meds have other things besides dxm as active ingredients such as guaifenesin. You only want dxm as your active ingredient.

[Thebane]

It's not advised to take DXM (especially a high dose like 600mgs) with an SSRI because of possible "serotonin syndrome."
http://www.dextroverse.org/faq/dxm_side_effects.html

I used to take dxm here and there back in high school. I couldn't imagine combining 600 mgs of dxm with opiate withdrawals. Sounds like hell on earth. I used to enjoy the lower doses (<300mgs) with pot, but anything over 500 mgs and I swear to god I forgot who I was.

@Dharmabum: DXM is without a doubt the strongest drug I've ever tried. I wouldn't recommend trying anything over 300 mgs if it's your first experience with the drug, and even then I would have someone with you if it's possible. Then again that's my opinion, take it or leave it. Also, make sure if you are going to try it, that what you are taking is dxm and dxm alone. A lot of cough meds have other things besides dxm as active ingredients such as guaifenesin. You only want dxm as your active ingredient.

I think most people here mean doses under the amount needed to really trip. And the brain damage claim is pretty unsubstantiated. As far as I know it's based on one study which found that rats fed large amounts of PCP for much of their life sometimes developed lesions. I don't think they've ever found such lesions or brain damage in humans. And the study didn't give the rats PCP daily for a week or so, but a very long time. Of course I wouldn't recommend taking DXM for extended periods of time in high doses if for no other reason than w/ds are said to be hell. But I doubt 200-300mg daily for the 4-5 days of opiate withdrawals will cause any damage and definitely no withdrawals.

[dharma bum]

Well, I ingested 120 mgs. Def. feel it, especially walking around. Kinda pleasant when i stay seated, listening to music. TVOTRadio. Gonna try 80 mgs and see where that takes me.

Thanks for the info Tiger Fan. I'm gonna keep it low.

EDit:: For every 40 mg of DXM I take I'm taking 400 mgs. of Guafanessin (worst druge EVER) so that limits how much i can take.

[TigerFan]

^^^
Yeah, you're right about that study with PCP and rats. I think it was called "olny's lesions." Basically, finding lesions in rats brains with continued use of PCP. I think both PCP, DXM, and Ketamine all caused similar brain damage - the point that was disputed was the ROA. Most people take DXM orally, whereas the rats were dosed IV.

BUT, the guy that started this thread was talking about 600 mgs dxm to fight a $80/day dope habit. That just seems like overkill. DXM is HELL on the body and brain. It destroys the liver (especially cough syrup and that high of a dose). I couldn't imagine takig 600 mgs/day for a week. Sure you might not have RLS, but you'll end up shaving your head and claiming to have telepathic correspondence with aliens.

But, like P. Verine mentioned, taking lower doses (200-300mgs) I've heard can work. It's just such a strange drug - I could imagine it either being great or a total disaster. Kind of like some people around here claiming that coke/amp. can help with withdrawal. To me, that sounds like just compounding the problem, but I guess if it works for ya...

[imalgen]

EDit:: For every 40 mg of DXM I take I'm taking 400 mgs. of Guafanessin (worst druge EVER) so that limits how much i can take.

Take a gander around for simple techniques to remove the nasty Guaf. Very very simple.

hint hint agent orange is not just a disgusting "herbicide" created by sick government bastards, nor is it just a glass bong cleaner.

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I have heard NMDA antagonists being used to stop serotonin syndrome in its footsteps. If it is used FOR SS then why would it cause SS? (from personal experience years ago. i had sero-syndrome from too much harmala alkaloids and then stupidly blue cheese salad with lots of bacon and an unfiltered aged ale to wash it down :( I was given dxm powder to stop the violent muscle spasms that were starting and to stop any other damage. it worked. although this was not given by a doctor, but by someone with lots of experience.) <<<--- please note () disclaimer, as i cannot verify this information as being medically viable, except the fact that spasms stopped and im alive today with no issues from it.