Nitrous: how to open the Ef'in things

[Hammilton]

I am a HUGE fan of nitrous oxide. Huge. So huge, that I'm willing to spend way more than its worth and inhale whipped cream fairly regularly. 4 cans is fuckin nice.

Its expensive as shit, though. 1.43 a can and up!!! Its not that great either.

So I was sitting around one day, and I had this thought- why not just figger out how to make or buy a cracker and enjoy the bloody things for a tenth of the price. And so I set out on a journey.

What I found was very good. Turns out that mountain bikers are pretty lazy folks, can't even stop to pump up their bike tires. Instead, those glorious bozos in spandex have come up with a controlled-release pump using 12g CO-two cartridges, which are the exact same thing as Nitrous Oxide. Wonderful. However, not all of these handheld pneumatic devices are capable of working with standard whippits. Its important to find a 12g and not a 16g pump, and one that *does not* require threaded cartridges, as many do.

Unless you can find oversized whippits with threads.

Also, be careful and don't buy them new from the E-stores, or even physical ones (who uses those?). They're very expensive, 16 to 30 bucks, and the lower-priced ones typically are the wrong kind. Look on ebay. Thats what I did, and I found one very quickly.

Nitrous can be your friend, let it.

I haven't got my pumper yet, but I'm really in no hurry. I overdrafted my bank account when I bought it (the bank paid), and now I have no money left to buy whippits. Payday *is* friday, though. How many whippits do you suggest I buy? 24, 48, 600? heh. I don't know how long they'd last me, in all honesty. Having not had any experience outside of ReadyWhip, I don't know how many cartridges it would take to produce a good high.

Its just really hard not to love something that with a single breath can rocket you into bliss, free of bodily limitations, ecstatic joy bounding through heaven, leaving you praying that paradise is a tenth as good.

heh. I try to gain some sort of understanding of God and the spiritual through my drug use, and I think that sweet Nitrous might be the perfect means of reaching him.

Hammilton
anyone guess that I'm really keen on trying ketamine?

[chemboy7]

Normally Nitrous Oxide that is used recreationally is sold as a propellant for whipped creams in cartiges (much like CO2 cartriges) that contain 10 grams of Nitrous, usually sold in boxes of 24... average cost is around $12 a box. You can open and use them with either a whipped cream dispenser disigned to crack them and a balloon or you can buy what is called a cracker, which is basically a device that is made solely for opening Nitrous cartriges. Either way you want to use a balloon because the gas can come out of the dispensers faster than your lungs can take it and with the crackers you will most definately get frost bitten.

edit: I'm not exactly sure what type of Nitrous container you are talking about, but I would be leary about using any that is intended for anything other than human consumption because it may contain other chemicals you don't want to inhale... if it doesn't taste sweet it isn't pure nitrous.

[soulman]

started out fukn with whippetts, and the kitchen supply stores at most malls have not only the crackers , but the actual whippetts as well!, if you dont have any luck at the mall, try a porno store;seriously around here all the porn shops sell the cartridges and the device to use them ususally a pretty big choice on devices, and amount of whippetts to buy. have not had to go that route in a long time though , my boy hooked me up with an account at the medical supply wherehouse!!!!! now i just pull my car in the garage, pop the trunk and tell them 4 footers(28 lbs. of gas) or the 5 1/2 footers(56 lbs of gas):D :D :D go to the party supply wherehouse and buy a bag of 17" tuff-tex balloons, and let the party begin!!! by the way small tanks are 100$ bigguns are 200", ya get about 150-175 from small, and about 3-400 fatty balloons from the full size monster. im an old skool rave kid, been gettin tanks since 1993!!!:cool:

[zombiewoof23]

started out fukn with whippetts, and the kitchen supply stores at most malls have not only the crackers , but the actual whippetts as well!, if you dont have any luck at the mall, try a porno store;seriously around here all the porn shops sell the cartridges and the device to use them ususally a pretty big choice on devices, and amount of whippetts to buy. have not had to go that route in a long time though , my boy hooked me up with an account at the medical supply wherehouse!!!!! now i just pull my car in the garage, pop the trunk and tell them 4 footers(28 lbs. of gas) or the 5 1/2 footers(56 lbs of gas):D :D :D go to the party supply wherehouse and buy a bag of 17" tuff-tex balloons, and let the party begin!!! by the way small tanks are 100$ bigguns are 200", ya get about 150-175 from small, and about 3-400 fatty balloons from the full size monster. im an old skool rave kid, been gettin tanks since 1993!!!:cool:

You should get way more balloons than 3-400 out of that. That is a helluva hookup though. Cha-Ching! Damn hippie crack. I haven't done N2O in years, but I used to hate it when you had too big of a balloon and when you're in the depths of N2O buzz you start hearing one of the fuckers leaking and there's nothing you can do about it until you come to.

[zombiewoof23]

Oh yeah, and like everyone else said here, as far as the dispensers go, the crackers are getting harder to find in certain states, but the whip cream dispensers are pretty easy to find either at the mall or on the net. Like chem said, you have to watch out for impurities such as sulphur and frostbite.

[superman]

i made a cracker out of a T fitting. the baloon goes on the arm, the cylinder goes into the other part, two threaded ends close the device, and by tightening one end a piece of metal pops the canister. pretty easy if you birng a canister to the hardware store, but a real cracker would be easier if they're available.

when i do it one can gives a nice buzz, but doing two just rocks me. too expensive to buy canisters tho IMO.

ketamine is the shit, it will take you way farther than nitrous, once you're comfortable with the high, do a large dose, say 300mg for a low tolerance, turn out the lights, turn on some music without vocals, lay down, and just let it take you. don't think, just relax. if the conditions are right you'll be transported what is often the most awesome and scariest place in the universe.

but be warned, with time you'll grow to love this place. eventually you won't be able to go without it. you will become psychologically addicted to this double life. this is uncomfortable and consumes much of you time and money. be carefull and enjoy

[zombiewoof23]

i made a cracker out of a T fitting. the baloon goes on the arm, the cylinder goes into the other part, two threaded ends close the device, and by tightening one end a piece of metal pops the canister. pretty easy if you birng a canister to the hardware store, but a real cracker would be easier if they're available.

when i do it one can gives a nice buzz, but doing two just rocks me. too expensive to buy canisters tho IMO.

ketamine is the shit, it will take you way farther than nitrous, once you're comfortable with the high, do a large dose, say 300mg for a low tolerance, turn out the lights, turn on some music without vocals, lay down, and just let it take you. don't think, just relax. if the conditions are right you'll be transported what is often the most awesome and scariest place in the universe.

but be warned, with time you'll grow to love this place. eventually you won't be able to go without it. you will become psychologically addicted to this double life. this is uncomfortable and consumes much of you time and money. be carefull and enjoy

Without a doubt you get more bang for your buck with Ketamine if you have access to it. IMO, it's prlly not quite as hard on your brain as inhalants either.

[Opiyum]

Only Superman could manufacture his own cracker.

Try doing jumping jacks or just jumping period after you take down two whippets.

[HistoryofMadness]

In college my friends and I set up 2 matresses with a step-ladder in front... we'd stand on top of the step ladder (we'd help each other of course), do a big balloon inhale, and then fall backwards onto the matresses... fucking crazy... sometimes we'd throw in a gravity bong hit first for shits and giggles...

Somebody eventually got hurt but it was minor and the real reason we quit was because it was in the dorms (stupid!) and some people were getting suspicious (certain hall monitor-type people!)...

Anyway don't try this at home we were pros... in fact I got my degree in mind alteration. And I'm certified (but that's another issue:D)

By the way Hammilton, CO2 and NO2 aren't the same thing...

-H

[Phluck]

I've made many crackers.

Here's what you do, bring a cartridge to a hardware store. Preferably a big one with lots of selection, and go to the aisle with pipe bits. There are bits that are just the right size to fit a nitrous cartridge. You'll need to play around a bit, but the basic idea is that the cartridge is held in place, and you have a knob that screws down, with the pointy bit of a nail attached so that it pierces the top. You've also got a part on there where a balloon fits nicely. Okay, I'm not really describing it very well, my brain isn't entirely on at the moment. But use your imagination, it shouldn't be too hard to figure it out on your own.

Just keep in mind that you want to get the stuff into a balloon. Some people think that inhaling compressed gas directly out of the canister is a good idea. These people are not smart.

Or, you could go to the store where you buy the cartridges and get a whipped cream maker.

[Opiyum]

If you were to inhale the NO2 from the canister directly wouldn't that uhh....Freeze your lungs? Afterall it's cold enough to make your hand stick to the cracker. Plus the pressure that it comes out of there with..Who in their right mind would try such a thing?

Oh you say they were smoking crack at the time...I see. Crack is most definatly whack!

Anybody got any? Its been awhile

[superman]

"Okay, I'm not really describing it very well"

it's much harder than you would expect, lol. would be easier to draw, but i am too lazy for that right now, perhaps if i was nicely opiated....


"By the way Hammilton, CO2 and NO2 aren't the same thing..."
i am pretty sure he was suggesting to use the hardware from CO2 bike tire inflation kits, not the actual CO2 cartridges


"Try doing jumping jacks or just jumping period after you take down two whippets."
i'll give it a go, but IIRC i had trouble standing let alone jumping

[HistoryofMadness]

"By the way Hammilton, CO2 and NO2 aren't the same thing..."
i am pretty sure he was suggesting to use the hardware from CO2 bike tire inflation kits, not the actual CO2 cartridges




LOL on second read I bet you're right.. oh well, I just thought 'just in case...' I've heard crazier..

By the way, I've never hit a can of whip cream.. is that what you're talking about too? I've heard of it, but I don't get how you do it without getting all that whipcream shit in your mouth?

[ILLWILLMD]

You can also use a seltzer maker, which uses the small co2 cartridges. It has a large reservoir built in so it allows the nitrous to warm up a bit so you don't need to use balloons as an added bonus. Nothing is worse then loosing you're hit of hippie crack due to a balloon freezing and popping. This is the best method I have come across. The chargers are a bit more expensive, but the will last a really long time, and you can also put two cartridges worth of gas into the reservoir. The nitrous cartridges are a bit smaller than regular Co2 cartridges, and wont fit into devices built for them. I have also tried the bike pump thing, and the accompanying cartridges are bigger than regular Co2. So that idea wont work either, sad to say.

A regular Co2 cartridge doesn’t hold enough gas to inflate a bike tire, so they use a weird nonstanderd size. But when you come down to it, the seltzer maker is a flawless device, and address all the above issues.
IllWillMD.

[Opiyum]

I've heard of it, but I don't get how you do it without getting all that whipcream shit in your mouth?
You do it by only opening up the valve part way. It allows the gas out but not the cream.
This is how you get caught in a restaraunt because after removing the NO2. The cream no longer gets "whipped" and comes out like melted ice cream. Not estheticly pleasing at all.
To resolve this problem owners will then go with whippets and canisters. Once the whippets and canisters begin disappearing they decide to go the old-timey way. By hand.
At least this is what I have witnessed. I would never choose to be a part of such decietfull ways.

[skeletontea]

I've never hit a can of whip cream.. is that what you're talking about too? I've heard of it, but I don't get how you do it without getting all that whipcream shit in your mouth?
Hold the can vertically, nozzle up, and place your mouth over the tip. Pull back on the nozzle with your mouth and inhale. Fortunately, when I was in middle school, my mother never realized why so many cans of whipped cream appeared to be defective, expelling a flat buttery mass, rather than light fluffy cream (due to the lack of propellant).

[caesee]

ummm nitrous had been a long time favorite of mine since i did my first ballon. I own 3 20lbs tanks, and used to have more but sold them. I am a crack head when my tanks are full (hence the term hippie crack) i will suck those tanks till they are dry..when i fill up, very very rarely this days i will fill 30lbs all my tanks and suck them dry 10lbs a day, ballon after ballon for the entire days! In Cali in is LEGAL to posses nitrous as long as you dont have any items that can be used to inhale it..i have walked home carring 20lbs tanks (not far) without ballons and never had a problem, been pulled over many times with full tanks, and the cop will ask to serice for ballons, once the find none there is nothing they can do...CA state law is you have to be 21 years old to purcase pure uncut nitrous, and 18 to purcase racing nitrous that is cut with sulfur. there are two places i go to that fill tanks, all you need is id, and a tank or you can buy a full one from them...it costs about $3.25 per pound..i have benn filling my tanks for about 10 years...dam this alot of brian cells..

[Hammilton]

This is what SWIM bought. Its perfect, basically.
Click this link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&item=180000486861&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1)
perfect size. I dunno about the 10g of N20 thing. Erowid has a page that talks about how much is in each cartridge via their at-home test.

Looks like it'll work incredi-nice with the ability to adjust the speed of the flow into the balloon. IME GUNNA PUT IT RIGHT TO MY LIPS AND SUCK IT IN LIKE A DELICIOUS SWEET ETHERERAL SODA!!

okay, just kidding, but I'm really excited. I think it was at whipeeze.com or something that they had the 24 packs for 8 bucks. I wanna save up for the 300 or 600 pack. I forget, it was like 150 or 200 dollarsl

How long would a 24 pack last? half hour, hour? I'd like to get enough happy gas to last me a month of weekend use. Would like to get a couple half-hour very deep, ventures into my soul. Suppose, though, as long as I'm broke, I'll have to do with the ebay-special. 30 or 40 bucks worth at a time.

There's actually a cracker on sale right now @ ebay, @ this Link. (http://cgi.ebay.com/WHIP-IT-NITROUS-CHARGERS-DESPENSOR-CRACKER_W0QQitemZ180000541192QQihZ008QQcategoryZ11 5721QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

[zombiewoof23]

ummm nitrous had been a long time favorite of mine since i did my first ballon. I own 3 20lbs tanks, and used to have more but sold them. I am a crack head when my tanks are full (hence the term hippie crack) i will suck those tanks till they are dry..when i fill up, very very rarely this days i will fill 30lbs all my tanks and suck them dry 10lbs a day, ballon after ballon for the entire days! In Cali in is LEGAL to posses nitrous as long as you dont have any items that can be used to inhale it..i have walked home carring 20lbs tanks (not far) without ballons and never had a problem, been pulled over many times with full tanks, and the cop will ask to serice for ballons, once the find none there is nothing they can do...CA state law is you have to be 21 years old to purcase pure uncut nitrous, and 18 to purcase racing nitrous that is cut with sulfur. there are two places i go to that fill tanks, all you need is id, and a tank or you can buy a full one from them...it costs about $3.25 per pound..i have benn filling my tanks for about 10 years...dam this alot of brian cells..

Dammit dude, is Cali where all the hippie crack comes from at the shows. I've only owned three 5 footers in my life and it was hell getting them in Ohio. All this talk about N20 makes me want to take a trip to cali now! There's nothing like tripping on good L, and doing nitrous at the same time. Brings back memories of the Deer Creek campgrounds. The old timers will remember Deer Creek, the youngsters now know it as Verizon Ampitheatre.

[zombiewoof23]

This is what SWIM bought. Its perfect, basically.
Click this link (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=008&item=180000486861&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1)
perfect size. I dunno about the 10g of N20 thing. Erowid has a page that talks about how much is in each cartridge via their at-home test.

Looks like it'll work incredi-nice with the ability to adjust the speed of the flow into the balloon. IME GUNNA PUT IT RIGHT TO MY LIPS AND SUCK IT IN LIKE A DELICIOUS SWEET ETHERERAL SODA!!

okay, just kidding, but I'm really excited. I think it was at whipeeze.com or something that they had the 24 packs for 8 bucks. I wanna save up for the 300 or 600 pack. I forget, it was like 150 or 200 dollarsl

How long would a 24 pack last? half hour, hour? I'd like to get enough happy gas to last me a month of weekend use. Would like to get a couple half-hour very deep, ventures into my soul. Suppose, though, as long as I'm broke, I'll have to do with the ebay-special. 30 or 40 bucks worth at a time.

There's actually a cracker on sale right now @ ebay, @ this Link. (http://cgi.ebay.com/WHIP-IT-NITROUS-CHARGERS-DESPENSOR-CRACKER_W0QQitemZ180000541192QQihZ008QQcategoryZ11 5721QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

Unless you have access to a clean tank or two, I wouldn't go broke on the shit or anything. 24 will prlly last you close to an hour. Thats kinda like buying a quarter gram of coke, it's just enough to piss you off.

[caesee]

Dammit dude, is Cali where all the hippie crack comes from at the shows. I've only owned three 5 footers in my life and it was hell getting them in Ohio. All this talk about N20 makes me want to take a trip to cali now! There's nothing like tripping on good L, and doing nitrous at the same time. Brings back memories of the Deer Creek campgrounds. The old timers will remember Deer Creek, the youngsters now know it as Verizon Ampitheatre.


yeap mainly the bay area, and lost angeles area..have the best places to fill. i need an excuse to fill my tanks, come on down,,:D