Two of my friends finally got caught calling in fake scripts.

[Ozzy]

One of the friends, lets call him Jake, had done it a few times and had gotten 30, 60, and 90 bars so far. He knew a doctors name and DEA number and all the prescription abbreviations.

Well he decides to let the other friend, Anthony, in on it. He just had to go pick it up and he got half. So jake calls in the script. #90 2mg xanax. I'm pretty sure the pharmacy knew from the get go it was a setup but they played along and told him it'd be about an hour.

Sure enough, anthony and jake drive to the pharm and anthony goes inside to pick up his supposed score. They tell him it'll be 20 more min. (stalling for the cops to get there.) After 20 min, he goes up to the counter and they say ok it's ready, it'll be 44$ or something. he has to go out to the car to get money but as soon as he walked back into the pharmacy, two cops rolled up and went inside. took him away in handcuffs and haven't heard from him yet.

Anyone know what kinda charges he's gonna get? Jake got away without getting in trouble obviously.

[chopstix]

Jake got away without getting in trouble obviously.

Assuming his friend doesn't roll over on him, and that they're not already on to him - sometimes this shit takes awhile to catch up.

Forgery and Fraud aren't usually taken very lightly..

[Ozzy]

Assuming his friend doesn't roll over on him, and that they're not already on to him - sometimes this shit takes awhile to catch up.

Forgery and Fraud aren't usually taken very lightly..

the biggest problem is the increasing confidence. "oh i did it once already, i can get away with it again" until one day, theres no getting out of it.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Assuming his friend doesn't roll over on him, and that they're not already on to him - sometimes this shit takes awhile to catch up.

Forgery and Fraud aren't usually taken very lightly..
Chop is right. Forgery and Fraud are serious crimes. These days, authorities want to make an example of prescription fraud and won't plea down that easily. I had a friend get a trouble for this and he was looking at 5-10 years. Although the penalties are different in each state. Where this happened was KY and is considered a Class C Felony(5-10 years). I honestly don't think he'll get that much time though. It's mainly used as a scare tactic. If this is his first time, he should get probation after serving 30 days or so. You just can't get away with shit like this these days. You may get away for a while, but keep doing it and you will dig your own grave. Good luck to your friend

Edit: I take that back, my friend got caught calling in OC's a C-II drug. If your friend called in Xanax, then that's better because it is a C-IV. None the less it's still fraud, but fraud of a CIV instead of a C-II is a lot better. So that consider, I predict probation.

[Ozzy]

Chop is right. Forgery and Fraud are serious crimes. These days, authorities want to make an example of prescription fraud and won't plea down that easily. I had a friend get a trouble for this and he was looking at 5-10 years. Although the penalties are different in each state. Where this happened was KY and is considered a Class C Felony(5-10 years). I honestly don't think he'll get that much time though. It's mainly used as a scare tactic. If this is his first time, he should get probation after serving 30 days or so. You just can't get away with shit like this these days. You may get away for a while, but keep doing it and you will dig your own grave. Good luck to your friend

Edit: I take that back, my friend got caught calling in OC's a C-II drug. If your friend called in Xanax, then that's better because it is a C-IV. None the less it's still fraud, but fraud of a CIV instead of a C-II is a lot better. So that consider, I predict probation.

yeah, that's one of the main ways I was able to calm down anthony's girlfriend somewhat.

[Hoss]

I'm no expert on law but I would assume that it would still be a felony charge (at least initially) since it was a controlled substance nonetheless - however, again, I'm no gumshoe on or about such. I'm sure others will come along to help clarify.

[Uncle Wiggly]

Another thing to consider is whether this falls under State or Federal jurisdiction. I'm not big on law but I'm sure there's some one who can answer that question. I'd be more worried if it's a Federal offense - I think.

[The Paregoric Man]

Edit: I take that back, my friend got caught calling in OC's a C-II drug. If your friend called in Xanax, then that's better because it is a C-IV. None the less it's still fraud, but fraud of a CIV instead of a C-II is a lot better. So that consider, I predict probation.

Alprazolam is schedule 3.

[port rhombus]

^^^

It's C-IV.

http://www.usdoj dot gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html

[marshalldylan1]

I met a guy in rehab who was popped forging a script for 90 80's. He had done it 30 times, but was only being charged for the one, since it was the only proof. He was in rehab because of it, court ordered, then had to serve probation, comm. service, all that fun stuff. This was in Pennsylvania. I'm thinking if he shows the judge he has a drug problem and wants help, he MIGHT be lenient with him. Who knows, but if this guy I met got it that easy, maybe you're friend won't be in too much trouble. Varies from state to state though.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

Another thing to consider is whether this falls under State or Federal jurisdiction. I'm not big on law but I'm sure there's some one who can answer that question. I'd be more worried if it's a Federal offense - I think.

IT CAN BE BOTH
depends what kind of example they want to make out of him,
NOW they will pull his history and can be charged with ever count
SO YEAH DUMB AND AH COULD BE VERY SERIOUS
1+1= conspiracy

lawyer up/ shut up



er - just saying;)

[rosebud]

Huh, sounds like he might have skated had he not had to go outside for more $ Well, if he is a first time offender with no previous drug related raps, around here (Northern Cal) drug court would give him the choice of rehab followed by long term enrollment in some type of local support program, community service and probation with regular pee tests. Or.....

Jail.

Drug court here really give first time offenders a chance to clean it up if they say they have a drug problem (and 99% take it-who wouldnt?). That is the key question, was it "Anthony's" first time drug related or serious offense?

[losangeleslifer]

Either way, it sounds like hard mattreses, bad food, and solem company.

Hope it aint long.

These schemes rarely end with a happy story....

But now you know that.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

+1^^^^^^
ya all do realize fed laws mandate all hard copies be kept?


so many leo questions huh :)
that what a mouthpiece is fer

[limitless_euphoria]

I agree with the advice "lawyer up, shut up," the lawyer-up part should the need arise. I'd imagine you would know if SWIY is in trouble sooner rather than later.

Forging scripts is NOT WORTH IT guys. SWIM did it a few times years ago (past the statute of limitation) and that was just photocopying computer-printed Rx-es for opiates by a dentist. SWIM did a better job cutting the damn things straight than the original dentist's secretary. LUCKILY SWIM did not get caught and SWIM would NEVER take that chance again--especially knowing how much easier it is for doctors and pharmacies to look into things.

[Papa Verine]

I forged scripts too, many years ago. And the generation before mine had even better stories. They broke into pharmacy's and stole the safes. It was a pretty common crime around here.

But things have changed A lot! Crimes are so much harder to get away with these days. You have to be very sharp to stay ahead of the law these days.

Be very smart about what crimes you're willing to commit. Some things are just as easy to get away with as they used to be. Forging scripts is not one of those things...

[jcmanny]

I forged scripts too, many years ago. And the generation before mine had even better stories. They broke into pharmacy's and stole the safes. It was a pretty common crime around here.

But things have changed A lot! Crimes are so much harder to get away with these days. You have to be very sharp to stay ahead of the law these days.

Be very smart about what crimes you're willing to commit. Some things are just as easy to get away with as they used to be. Forging scripts is not one of those things...

I remember when I was a child my father and I visited a small pharmacy that was owned by a friend of my pops. Although it was decades ago I clearly remember the owner bitching about no longer carrying narcotics because of repeated B&Es. The last break in took his giant safe and dad's friend had given up.

Man why would anyone forge a script for Xanax? I've seen that shit go for $1.00 a bar. I guess xannys wouldn't get the attention of an OC 80 though.

[hovadagod]

So stupid to forge benzo rx's; any rx's is stupid but benzos are the dumbest. You have to really know how to write it well so there is no question at all.

I remember when I was a child my father and I visited a small pharmacy that was owned by a friend of my pops. Although it was decades ago I clearly remember the owner bitching about no longer carrying narcotics because of repeated B&Es. The last break in took his giant safe and dad's friend had given up.

Man why would anyone forge a script for Xanax? I've seen that shit go for $1.00 a bar. I guess xannys wouldn't get the attention of an OC 80 though.

[China white]

One of the friends, lets call him Jake, had done it a few times and had gotten 30, 60, and 90 bars so far. He knew a doctors name and DEA number and all the prescription abbreviations.

Well he decides to let the other friend, Anthony, in on it. He just had to go pick it up and he got half. So jake calls in the script. #90 2mg xanax. I'm pretty sure the pharmacy knew from the get go it was a setup but they played along and told him it'd be about an hour.

Sure enough, anthony and jake drive to the pharm and anthony goes inside to pick up his supposed score. They tell him it'll be 20 more min. (stalling for the cops to get there.) After 20 min, he goes up to the counter and they say ok it's ready, it'll be 44$ or something. he has to go out to the car to get money but as soon as he walked back into the pharmacy, two cops rolled up and went inside. took him away in handcuffs and haven't heard from him yet.

Anyone know what kinda charges he's gonna get? Jake got away without getting in trouble obviously.
ha i like how you say jake LET Anthony in on it...like he was doin the guy a favor. Id never do anything close to that...and if i did i wouldnt go in...and if i did go in and they said 20 min...ya right...peace

[China white]

So stupid to forge benzo rx's; any rx's is stupid but benzos are the dumbest. You have to really know how to write it well so there is no question at all.



what do you mean benzo scripts are the heardest? whats different about writing a benzo script compared to anything else?

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

ha i like how you say jake LET Anthony in on it...like he was doin the guy a favor. Id never do anything close to that...and if i did i wouldnt go in...and if i did go in and they said 20 min...ya right...peace

YES - REALLY
like america's dumbest crimials
I like how you SAY TWO frineds got caught
when in your post only ONE really did

:rolleyes:

[xannyman]

Damn......I am so GLAD I listened to everyone's advice a few months ago when I had the blank scripts and shredded them!!!! Best descision I ever made!!

[More Feen]

Right before I left the US to come here, I was filling a Rx inside the pharmacy, which had a drive through.

As I was waiting for my legit Rx, two police cars boxed-in a vehicle at the pharmacy's drive thru window. I didn't ask the pharmacy staff what was going on, but could assume what the drive-thru folks were up to.

I think they prolly thought that by NOT going into the pharmacy, they could avoid getting trapped inside the store. Well, they were right. But, they were easy to trap, regardless.

M F

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Alprazolam is schedule 3.
Uhhhh no it's a C-IV buddy

^^^

It's C-IV.

http://www.usdoj (http://www.usdoj/) dot gov/dea/pubs/scheduling.html

Thanks for clearing that up port.

[EleusisII]

Damn......I am so GLAD I listened to everyone's advice a few months ago when I had the blank scripts and shredded them!!!! Best descision I ever made!!

Sorta depends on whether you're an idiot or not. Cause in that case yes, you're def. right. This isn't a scam for the slow witted.

[hovadagod]

I didn't say it was hardest to write benzo scripts. Just the dumbest. That's because you can get benzos so easily wihtout forging rx's. If your gonna forge an rx make it for something good!!!

what do you mean benzo scripts are the heardest? whats different about writing a benzo script compared to anything else?

[More Feen]

^^ Here-here!

[nick]

This isn't a scam for the slow witted.

Oh yes it is.You have to be dumb or desperate to try it.


In this case,it's fairly obvious that this guy Antony is dumb................very dumb.

[lotus]

did jake have any reason to be paranoid? here buddy, i'll let you have half.......

[hovadagod]

It's totally dumb to force scripts when you could just as easily fake pain.

[chopstix]

Oh yes it is.You have to be dumb or desperate to try it.

Agreed, even after the heavy risks of fraud and likely forgery, you still have to go pay for the pills.. I know someone who got 18mos for check forgery and then had to go into a hardcore long-term program costing her over three years of her life, and the victim didn't press charges, the DA picked it up..

There are much more efficient and less dangerous scams out there..

I think about script forgery and wonder what ever happened to Zoops, who used to write a lot about the games he ran - dude was a character and just disappeared one day..

[hovadagod]

Zoops was the guy who used to write about the latin rx forging methods?

What did happen to him? He used to post all the time....smart dude;)

Oh yes it is.You have to be dumb or desperate to try it.

Agreed, even after the heavy risks of fraud and likely forgery, you still have to go pay for the pills.. I know someone who got 18mos for check forgery and then had to go into a hardcore long-term program costing her over three years of her life, and the victim didn't press charges, the DA picked it up..

There are much more efficient and less dangerous scams out there..

I think about script forgery and wonder what ever happened to Zoops, who used to write a lot about the games he ran - dude was a character and just disappeared one day..[/QUOTE]

[nick]

I'm not sure what happened to Zoops,but I do know he had personal problems,which probably explain his absence.

I miss the guy.

[Chipper]

Zoops and his methylphenidate adventures! Now where did he go? I also miss him and his odd avatar.

[seven10kids]

It is harder sometimes to fill for benzos also sometimes because i dobut many people are on like 4mgs 4x a day but there are people that take 2 oc 80s 3x a day and that wouldnt really be absurd, especally if the patient was terminal

[hovadagod]

What was that avatar; weird little man? I liked zoops posts. He actually was smart despite his inclination to defraud pharmacies.

[China white]

i dont recomend any kind of scam at all....work hard/smart , get your dollars up and nothing is too far out of reach

[jacky]

I have a freind that is dead because of his script forgerys.

he was a master at such crimes.
he also had an old croaker Dr. that was an old gay guy....my buddy was Bi....so, well, he turned a few tricks to keep the scripts flowing.
the old Dr taught him all about the lingo, the art of script, the codes...etc.

this was back in the 80's-90's...when you could still get away with that stuff easier.
this buy taught me alot back in the day about dope....before information was so easy to get.
he taught me about which old pharmacys in the 80's would still let you sign every month for a bottle of codeine cough syrup without needing a script from a Dr...the codeine was allowed to be sold by just a pharmacist, as long as there is a paper trail. this law still stands...but the DEA talked alot of pharmacys and major chains into not honoring our basic medicinal rights.

my buddy got caught more than a few times for his forgerys.
his final time getting caught they were going to throw the book at him. Prison time.....for my Bi freind, a pianist, and rich boy debutant...Prison would not be nice.
even though he was "in" with the Mexican mafia....

so he killed himself by giving his freind a hot shot, that had come along on a trip with him. they both had a hotel room together....so....calling the ambulance and having his friend taken away was a way he could kill himself in peace with booze and dope and pills. he died on the toilet with his head in the trash. a book was rumored to be laid out on his bed called that was open to a chapter called "premonition of a dead man".

it was a fucking shame that he checked out merely because of prison.
his mother was a rich landowner cattle Baroness. She owned land and a mansion in eastern Idaho....the mansion was complete with servants. He was also freinds of some Billionaire folks.......despite all that money and power his family had.....there was no bargaining left to get him out of doing his time. He had abused his class to the point where the courts had less faith in him than the lowest.

around the same time....I girl that I know...a freind of mine.....was using my name to forge scripts.
she would use other peoples too....but she ran out of people that would pick the pills up for her and let her use their name a few times.
I worked in a nice bistro right across the street from her Dentist. for some reason, she just had to use my name...and her Dentist was the one she lifted all the script pads from.
I NEVER knew about her doing this till after.
I never got any of the pills....nothing.
she was asian...and obviously female...so the Mexican drug dealers just loved her....she always had dope, pills.
anyway, this big city girl...an mid school punk chick that knew jonny thunders and the old LA punk scene people...totally fucked me...and not in a good way.
she wrote something like 20 scripts using my name....stolen from a dentist that worked about 100 yards from my work.
one day he comes in for dinner,.....and comes back into the kitchen smiling, and asking to compliment the chef. he comes up to me and says that I was lucky that he liked my cooking...otherwise I would be going to prison. of course denying that I knew anything about this sounded stupid.
I forgive my freind because she is a spoiled bitch, who married a rock star, and a skate board star, and barely knew how to support herself......
but she did have some heart, and helped me out more times than I can remember.

forging scripts is CRAZY shit these days.

I used to go to NA with this old guy, who was a heroin addict for years.
he was in the old Idaho Pen back in the 70's before they built the new Idaho prison.
this old pen was like an old spanish castle....it was pretty hardcore.
they hung people there too.
the isolation chambers were outside....so in the summer they were literally a 100 degrees...and in the winter it was absolutely freezing in those cells.
anyway,...he remembered this old guy that used to knock off pharmacys.
and this old cat, would sneak out of the old pen at night....and go knock off pharmacys during the night. and then make his way back with the loot/pills/apothecary powders to the prison early early in the morning.
the old guy was institutionalized for sure...because he always came back to the prison...where he was sure he wouldnt get caught.
apparently he never did get caught. so I cannot prove his story...but the old guy swears this to me.
the prison would be full of all sorts of drugs the next day. and this guy would just give away his pills for much less than they were worth in prison. that old guy DID NOT GET FUCKED with...as you can imagine.
I love stories like that.

the dope scene doesnt always stay the same...even though people pretty much do.
pharmacys are much harder to rip off now, cops just cant turn their heads anymore and take a pay off.
scripts are harder to write, and keep writing because of the computer networking now.

I think because of that, is why we have people walking up to the pharmacy now and putting a gun, or a blood filled syringe to the techs face and demanding oxycodone.
I know a little shit that is just getting out of prison for doing just this. he took a needle full of his blood and threatened to inject a pharmacy tech telling them he was HIV+

its better to be sick.
I always went by that....
when you are sick things can happen.
its easier to spange 20$ to get well in 20 minutes....or 5 hours...whatever it takes......than it is to be dopesick in jail.

[EleusisII]

work hard/smart , get your dollars up and nothing is too far out of reach

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[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

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OH yes - lets NOT ferget that size DOE NOT matter.
women love DICKLESS wonders

[duck]

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mmmm sorry EII but in America it's true -- with enough money almost everything is possible,

[EleusisII]

forging scripts is CRAZY shit these days.

Well, if you're dumbfuck mcfuck who just needs 100 xanax, and dont really know what you're doing, then yes.
(This isn't post is more about scripting and swindling in general btw)
But if you know what you're doing, know some of the technology involved and so on, then I disagree.
There is one wonderful fact about computers that's actually helpful in this regard...
People trust technology, and that more than anything can be used to defeat the system.
Dude calls in a prescription for whatever, you can bet that a pharmacist is going to be suspicious sometimes. If a fax arrives with the prescription, and the docs sender ID, it's good as gold to him.
(And some of you know how easy this is to forge, for example)

I wouldn't dare say how big a percentage of pills out on the street originate from forging, but it's quite substantial.

It's as anything. If you know what you're doing, you're taking precautions and you're good at it, then it can serve you well.
If you don't, case in point: OPs two friends, then it's best left to other people.

[EleusisII]

mmmm sorry EII but in America it's true -- with enough money almost everything is possible,

Oh yeah, absolutely, I don't doubt that.
It was more the dudes notion that "If you work hard enough, you'll have more than enough money for everything" that I found really naive.

Case in point: Rates of upwards social mobility in the US have been stagnant since the 80ies. Thats sorta off topic though.

[xannyman]

Sorta depends on whether you're an idiot or not. Cause in that case yes, you're def. right. This isn't a scam for the slow witted.
Sorry not an idiot......Sorta depends on whether your desperate or not.......Guess I wasn't willing to risk all the consequences for a week or two of pleasure. The idiots are the ones who do it and get caught....

[rosebud]

So stupid to forge benzo rx's; any rx's is stupid but benzos are the dumbest. You have to really know how to write it well so there is no question at all.

Wasnt that what Jeb Bushes daughter got popped for about halfway through Uncle Georgies first term? I seem to recall her calling in some Xans or something similar and then going into pick it up and being busted. Seems like she was busted a couple times-cannot recall if both times were for xans etc. I imagine she must have cleaned up her act although Jeb has clearly and definitely pulled himself out of any presidential bid for good (it looks like). Likely he doesnt want his daughter to have her script forging history (among other secrets he harbors from what I read) brought up again and drug through the mud......:rolleyes:

[EleusisII]

See, every time you see or hear of people getting busted doing this, it's always the same story... "Oh, it'll just be another 10 mins!".
Let's just skip the basic steps of not getting it in your own name, or from your own doctor, use a prepaid (paid by cash) cellphone, and paying with cash. Here's two easy way of making sure that it at least takes a bit of an effort to bust you.
1. Drop off the script when you KNOW the doctor/office is unreachable. (Holiday, or dropping it off after hours.)
2. Drop off script, and come back to pick up goods three days later.

In the vast majority of cases, it's either stupidity or greed that get forgers busted. And let's not forget that we all risk getting busted at any time, whether for possession or something else.

[Duckfeet]

Now that oxy pharmaceuticals are "out of the closet" and everybody likes'em, the stakes have gotten so much higher. The old days are done. I know credible people that have gotten away with it, thru different schemes, most of which have been covered, but there's two things they always agree on: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." Face the fact that eventually you'll probably get popped, and make sure you can handle this...if it freaks you out, or you have the attitude "I don't do jail man, can't handle it, then you have no business in this kind of game. It's not that you can't get away with it: sure you can. But if you *do* get away with it, you'll do it again and again, and eventually you'll slip up and get cracked.

I was a drugstore thief in the south, and in later years, me and my girl were busted passing scripts for percodan, as dilaudids were already "on the radar" by late eighties. And we both took our lumps, and the script "writer" and the script "stealer", walked, as he should have, since we weren't snitches...but again, we knew after the first few times that it was something we couldn't stop doing: if you're sick, you'll bust a script, if you know how, and eventually the drug stores got wise...they always do, IMO...

[upstate_007]

Now that oxy pharmaceuticals are "out of the closet" and everybody likes'em, the stakes have gotten so much higher. The old days are done. I know credible people that have gotten away with it, thru different schemes, most of which have been covered, but there's two things they always agree on: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time." Face the fact that eventually you'll probably get popped, and make sure you can handle this...if it freaks you out, or you have the attitude "I don't do jail man, can't handle it, then you have no business in this kind of game. It's not that you can't get away with it: sure you can. But if you *do* get away with it, you'll do it again and again, and eventually you'll slip up and get cracked.


That goes for busting scripts as well as the dope game in general. Sure, there are a few anomalies out there who never get busted or never do time, but they are far and few between. It's hard to even use this board as a reference since most 'hardcore' junkies I have ever known did not have creature comforts like internet access, food or a roof over their head at times. I went through all that like a lot of people here and we all wised up to some degree in order to have some semblance of a functional habit. For now. Fuck, if I had a computer 15 years ago I would have pawned it the day I got it and probably would have tried to steal a few PCs depending on the going rate.

Point is........if you're in this for long enough and deep enough, jail/prison/death is almost an inevitability at some point.

[chopstix]

DF is right. If you got a game you run, that costs time if you get caught, be prepared to do that time. Lots of times it's dumb shit that finally trips you up, shit you never anticipated. And for me, I got caught a few times because I was desperate and being sloppy, sometimes cocky though (early on, I learned to not get cocky and take shit for granted pretty quick, unless I'd been eating kpins then all bets were off), you start thinking you're invincible and next thing you know, you're being booked..

[Opiyum]

I once got a hold of a pad but I quickly learned I didn't have the balls to attempt something like that even having the proper information and knowledge to do so didn't help. I ended up selling the pad and chances are that dude didn't do shit with it either. It was the novelty that sold it for me.
The only scam Swim ever did with a pharmacy was get his legit script of 60 2mg kpins filled and after leaving the store replacing the 60 2mg kpins with 60 1 mg kpins that swim already had. The pharmacist was more than happy to fix his mistake. The sucky part is swim wasn't smart enough to think of this on his own. Swim read it somewhere.

I don't know if it's true or not but I was reading a story about people doing large scale drug diversion scams and this one apparently is unstoppable by the DEA.
You pose as a legitimate business man (of course for this one you need capital and good credit) and you rent a shop and hire a pharmacist and stock the store up with pills and whatever else. Then the day or night before opening day the business man loads all the pills into his van and leaves town.
Considering all the upfront costs can be purchased on credit including leasing the store and buying the pills you would walk away with a net gain equal to the value of a fully stocked pharmacy.
I can't remember where I read this and I can't find any articles online about it so I don't know if it's actually ever been done but I would imagine it has at some point somewhere.

[EleusisII]

I ended up selling the pad and chances are that dude didn't do shit with it either.

How much did you sell it for? I guess there's no going rate for those...

The only scam Swim ever did with a pharmacy was get his legit script of 60 2mg kpins filled and after leaving the store replacing the 60 2mg kpins with 60 1 mg kpins that swim already had.

Oh, good one! Begs to be tried with my friendly neighbourhood pharmacist! Only thing is, too bad that the really fun pills to try this with, oxys and so on, are so easy to tell apart that it's a little too hard to believe. Roxis OTOH might work!

You pose as a legitimate business man (of course for this one you need capital and good credit) and you rent a shop and hire a pharmacist and stock the store up with pills and whatever else. Then the day or night before opening day the business man loads all the pills into his van and leaves town.


Very true... I read an article the other day about how prescription pills often pass through 4-5 different resellers, before they get to the pharmacy. And in most states there's very little licensing for resellers. I can try to find it again, if anyone is interested.

[Opiyum]

I can't remember. Considering who ended up with it it is more likely that some sort of trade was worked out. I'm sure I didn't ask for anything above and beyond a hundred dollar equivalent though.

[Opiyum]

So I found the source for the two scams I posted earlier in this thread and I found two others that I thought to be very smart and interesting.
I'm posting them only because they are very creative and show how creative and smart we pill poppers and drug seekers can be.

The defrauder has his own script pads printed up; the office number listed on the pad is actually a phone booth or cell or whatever. An accomplice takes the script in while a partner waits by the phone. When the pharm calls to verify, the con-artist, answers the phone, saying he's the doc and approves the transaction.
This next one is genius.
Offender calls the pharmacy and says he's a narc detective and that there is a con man under surveilance about to approach the pharm with a bogus script. The "officer" tells the pharmacy to fill the script, explaining that the police will then make an arrest. Of course, the police never do come.
Don't know if either would work now a days but interesting none the less.

[OverDriven]

Since he was illegally using the DEA number (a federal crime), I wouldn't be surprised if he does a few years for this.

[More Feen]

Opiyum,

I liked that last scheme. That just goes to show the craftiness and inventivness of some folks.

If there is a loophole, someone will find it.

If there isn't one, someone will create one!!

Fucking brilliant!!

M F

[Opiyum]

You know after thinking about it the great thing about that second one is you could theoretically get a script filled for an amount over what is legally allowed to be prescribed. Like...300 oxy 80's or some shit like that.

[More Feen]

Dude, exactly !!

I certainly don't have the cajones to try anything like that, but I'd love to see an Independant movie about such a scheme.

Even going so far as to approach the pharmacy dressed like 5-0, and a convincing PO-lice ID / Badge.

:" Er, just fill the script, and don't let on. We'll track this sumbitch to his house and get him & his accomplaces."

M F

[EleusisII]

Oh shit oh shit oh shit!

WHY don't I have a partner in crime I could pull this off with!
Best part (k, ALMOST the best part) would be the expression on the pharmacists face, when his schadenfreude over putting a junkie in jail turns into horror over getting hustled, wahaha.

In somewhat related news, after yesterdays thread on the subject, and my surprise when I read a poll on a pharmacist site about what to do when faced with a fake script (It was a MINORITY who'd help police carch the perp), I did a little reading on the subject, and it turns out that.

"In fact, the chain I work for has a "non-involvement" policy that prohibits us from contacting law enforcement. We are instructed to document the incident, and if the doctor decides to get the police involved, we turn the evidence we've collected over to them if/when they interview us.

Our policy also mandates that we give the Rx back to the patient if (s)he asks for it."

In other words, and I assume they don't exactly advertise this, it's against the policy of certain chains to go Batman on scriptforgers, and have the cops pick them up right then and there.
Presumably this is so the general public and other customers aren't freaked out.

Too bad that OPs friends didn't do alittle research before they went script-forging!

[Deadfiend]

No matter how much time he get's he will have a felony charge hanging over his head for the rest of his life, now a days that's some heavy shit.......

[Restharrow]

Oh shit oh shit oh shit!

WHY don't I have a partner in crime I could pull this off with!
Best part (k, ALMOST the best part) would be the expression on the pharmacists face, when his schadenfreude over putting a junkie in jail turns into horror over getting hustled, wahaha.

In somewhat related news, after yesterdays thread on the subject, and my surprise when I read a poll on a pharmacist site about what to do when faced with a fake script (It was a MINORITY who'd help police carch the perp), I did a little reading on the subject, and it turns out that.

"In fact, the chain I work for has a "non-involvement" policy that prohibits us from contacting law enforcement. We are instructed to document the incident, and if the doctor decides to get the police involved, we turn the evidence we've collected over to them if/when they interview us.

Our policy also mandates that we give the Rx back to the patient if (s)he asks for it."

In other words, and I assume they don't exactly advertise this, it's against the policy of certain chains to go Batman on scriptforgers, and have the cops pick them up right then and there.
Presumably this is so the general public and other customers aren't freaked out.

Too bad that OPs friends didn't do alittle research before they went script-forging!
I used to have a pharmacist for a neighbor and although their policy was NOT so open as what is shown above, the pharmacy DID NOT PAY THE PHARMACIST FOR TIME SPENT IN COURT, WORKING WITH POLICE, ETC. The pharmacist was given UNPAID leave to handle legal business, thus she NEVER called the law on forgers. She just told them they did NOT have the med in stock and gave them the script back if she thought was a forgery.

Will