Pennsylvania to sell needles over counter

[Thai_Stick]

Saw this in the paper this morning

Pennsylvanians can now buy hypodermic needles without a prescription, a change that research shows reduces the spread of AIDS and other viruses among users of illegal drugs.Public health activists hailed the state Board of Pharmacy's lifting of the restriction as a way to lessen risky sharing of needles by drug users, but not all pharmacists are happy about it.

http://articles.lancasteronline.com/local/4/242345

[Opiofiend]

Fuckn a right. And I just ran out too. I'm goin right after work. Props for lettin us know

[Leave it ta Beaver]

All of the world should follow this idea!!

Honestly they should make 'em more obtainable to any addict, it would make things alot easier/healthier!

[Thai_Stick]

Fuckn a right. And I just ran out too. I'm goin right after work. Props for lettin us know

Be sure to report back and let us know how it goes. This isn't a mandate and doesn't require a pharmacy to sell them without a script, it gives them the option, so it will be interesting to see how quickly (or if) they adopt the practice.

[Leave it ta Beaver]

Your right about the pharmacy's desgression, never caught that part. It'll probally be few if any to be friendlly w/ their rigs!

[monkeyphunk]

Cali did the same thing a few years ago n still its few and far between where they will sell em they still try saying ita illegal they jus don't want junkies to be clean n healthy we wouldn't need them thenYour right about the pharmacy's desgression, never caught that part. It'll probally be few if any to be friendlly w/ their rigs!

[Raisin]

Here it is legal but up to the pharmacist's discretion. I heard from a friend in the game that all the pharms in the area (county) recently stopped. We've got a lot of diversion and maybe it's got to do something with that. It makes no sense if you ask me. If you make them less available it isn't going to stop anyone. It's only going to encourage risk taking behavior in the drug using community. I've actually gotten into it with pharmacists before but then again I'm in the south.

[The Paregoric Man]

Aggro supply places, usually in a tub by the counter. Gotta accept what they have, BD tuberculina 29G is common, no script required. Don't wear anything crazy.

[bigNasty]

All of the world should follow this idea!!

Honestly they should make 'em more obtainable to any addict, it would make things alot easier/healthier!
LOL I hope every state joins the 21st century with my lovely state.....Mississippi that everyone says is still in the "dark age" and shit like

[InfectedMushroom]

I usually just buy online but this a great thing. The only good thing this state has done in a long time...now to head to some pharmacies this weekend and try it out. I'll report back with my results.

[Paregoric Kid]

this is great news. so how do you buy them? do you just go in and ask for the gauge of insulin syringe you want?

[bindegal]

Here in Denmark is legal, but up to the pharmacist if he want to sell it. But the state og citys have a lot of places where you just get it for free, bags of it. So I feel guilty when I read about people who can't get clean rigs.

[Paregoric Kid]

yeah its that way here too, its up to the individual pharmacist if he wants to sell it to you.

[bindegal]

Here is some of the stuff i had lying around, with a lighter for size comparison. Is only some of the things we can get.
We don't get these small insulin syringe with fixed needle. Here the small one is 2ml syringes, the small needle is 26Gx1/2"
The big 20ml syringe is use for metadon, and the big blue needle is for folks who use thery femoral vein.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2185/arigs.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/i/arigs.jpg/)

[Leave it ta Beaver]

Here is some of the stuff i had lying around, with a lighter for size comparison. Is only some of the things we can get.
We don't get these small insulin syringe with fixed needle. Here the small one is 2ml syringes, the small needle is 26Gx1/2"
The big 20ml syringe is use for metadon, and the big blue needle is for folks who use thery femoral vein.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2185/arigs.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/i/arigs.jpg/)

Ouch, Ya'll got them big gauge's, but that's cool you get all you need! Same here w/ the needle exchange program, theyeven give you bleach just in case! ( along w/ tie's, cooker's,alcohol swab's etc...)

[bigNasty]

this is great news. so how do you buy them? do you just go in and ask for the gauge of insulin syringe you want?
Yep and I'd like to add that you should go to Wal-Mart. CVS and some other big chains require that you get your insulin filled there in order to get pins but Wal-Mart isn't like that. If it's legal in your state, their company policy is to sell them to you no matter what you look like or any of that shit. Say i need a bag/box of 31 gauge, half cc, 5/16 insulin needles and BAM there you are being rung up for two dollars and some change for a bag of 10

[SHELLEY]

Here it is legal but up to the pharmacist's discretion. I heard from a friend in the game that all the pharms in the area (county) recently stopped. We've got a lot of diversion and maybe it's got to do something with that. It makes no sense if you ask me. If you make them less available it isn't going to stop anyone. It's only going to encourage risk taking behavior in the drug using community. I've actually gotten into it with pharmacists before but then again I'm in the south.

i know TONS of places in our county that sell 'em

[Opiyum]

I hope this doesn't put prevention point pittsburgh out of bussiness because not only did they distribute needles but they also handed out narcan and gave classes on administering it. If they stop their program because of this it then that's no good.
I guess people will still want free needles but I wonder if they are going to lose their funding and or licence.
Otherwise this is awesome news.

[JTDuffet]

same in my state.. they allow it.. of course sometimes I get funny looks when i buy my usual 5 packs of 10.. :) they sometimes do the math for me as if I couldn't... thats 50? yes it is.. thanks..

$13.xx for 50 spikes.. and they always give you that sheet that explains how to dispose of properly, lists some needle exchanges and places that do sharps pickups, etc...

-jt

[Paregoric Kid]

I don't think they have a license, narcan can't be dispensed without a legit prescription. if anything this should help increase needle exchanges. in PA the only ones I know of are in Philly and Pitt.
so do I just ask for like 28 gauge u100 insulin syringes or do I have to specify the cc and stuff? are the regular syringes 1cc, that is what I would prefer.

[bigNasty]

so do I just ask for like 28 gauge u100 insulin syringes or do I have to specify the cc and stuff? are the regular syringes 1cc, that is what I would prefer.
Ask for whatever you want. 100 units=1cc. They're gonna need to know syringe size(1/2cc, 1cc, etc..), needle length(5/16, 1 inch, etc...) and needle gauge(18, 25, 31, etc..)

[The_Highwayman]

I used to get a hard time and bad look when I brought in a SCRIPT and asking for pins...

[duck]

Here is some of the stuff i had lying around, with a lighter for size comparison. Is only some of the things we can get.
We don't get these small insulin syringe with fixed needle. Here the small one is 2ml syringes, the small needle is 26Gx1/2"
The big 20ml syringe is use for metadon, and the big blue needle is for folks who use thery femoral vein.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2185/arigs.th.jpg (http://img182.imageshack.us/i/arigs.jpg/)


Ahh...the little yellow citric pouches -- I became very familiar with those while abroad recently ;)

[The_Highwayman]

Can any PA 'philes share on how the real life application is going??

[Opiyum]

I've been thinking about going and trying cause I'm going to need some soon for some DMT but alas I can't even afford a ten pack of needles. When the day comes that I can I'm gonna go try a few places.

[JTDuffet]

this is exactly how I do it... i walk to the pharmacy and wait in line... when i am called to the counter i say....

hi there, I'd like 1CC, 30 guage, 1/2". thats it.. and they come and bring me a 10 pack. thats usually when I say, I'd like 5 packs please.

they bring em up to the counter, ring them up, drop in a sheet of paper identifying proper needle disposal procedures, lists some support info, needle exchange info, etc and lists numbers to call, etc...

the rigs cost $2.78 a 10 pack. so its like $13 bucks for 50 rigs...

-jt

[farmpkm]

I don't think they have a license, narcan can't be dispensed without a legit prescription. if anything this should help increase needle exchanges. in PA the only ones I know of are in Philly and Pitt.
so do I just ask for like 28 gauge u100 insulin syringes or do I have to specify the cc and stuff? are the regular syringes 1cc, that is what I would prefer.

They actually give you a prescription with your name on it at prevention point pittsburgh. First time I got it there it was from an actual physician volunteer, but I got it refilled (expired, not used) recently by a young girl who I know for a fact is not a doctor. Probably not %100 legal for her to be signing prescriptions, but I doubt anyone is going to bust their balls about it. It still had the same doctors name on it, btw.

Edit:
Oh, and forgot to say that they don't ask for ID or anything so you can give a fake name if you want. Probably smarter to have it in your actual name though.

[Opiyum]

So anybody have any luck with this yet?
I am so flat broke, to the point that I traded a connection for 30 bucks worth of food stamp credit, that I am not going to be trying this anytime soon.
I'm interested to see what if any pharmacies people have had luck at.
I could just see myself trying this out and coming across a pharmacist who didn't even know that the law was changed and they sure wouldn't take my word for it that it had I wouldn't think.
Do you think that a letter or notice was sent out to every pharmacy making them aware of the change? Or does that make to much sense?

Oh I went ahead and copied this thread into another forum it kinda fits under the definition of a few different ones and I had trouble finding it tonight which is why your seeing it in three places at once...

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

TRIPLE THREADS?????
idk . swimming on drug
hard time
scoring pins IN U.S. anywhere easy
ask pharmacist to write down his name and his SUPERIORS NAME
SO, when you go home and into insulin shock and die,
S.O. may sue the FUCK out of him/ store

[Thai_Stick]

I noticed the tripple threads last night as well. They must have been moving the thread and didn't know where to put it. I felt bad putting it where I did because this could really help alot of people and I didn't put it in a very active forum where everyone would notice it.

Really surprised we havn't gotten a report from anyone yet, maybe we will now that it's been moved and I'm drawing attention to this thread by posting the ump-teenth request for it. Guess I can't get that upset because I do live in the state as well, but I'm not big on IV.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

where is it you original put it,
YEAH WOULD LIKE TO HEARD FIRST ON EXPERIENCE TO. NICE OF YOU TO CARE <3

[Thai_Stick]

I think I put it in the news section, because I saw it in the paper, but it really does belong here instead.

I thought when I posted this every 'phile in pennsylvania would be running for the closest CVS, trampling anything in their path, but I guess I was wrong. :( :( :(

JUNKIE STAMPEDE!

[bigNasty]

I thought when I posted this every 'phile in pennsylvania would be running for the closest CVS, trampling anything in their path, but I guess I was wrong. :( :( :(

JUNKIE STAMPEDE!
They wouldn't go to CVS, i can tell you that. Where I live, CVS will only sell you rigs if you get your insulin filled there

[RxQueen]

from another pennsylvanian... i'm really happy that they finally did this. it's about time!! but being as broke as i am these days, i'm staying as far away from dope as i can, cuz that shit has a way of eating through every penny i've got, then making me do things i normally wouldn't just to get more cash. go figure, eh?

i'm kinda eager too, to hear how others are doing with scoring rigs from pharmacies in the state. that way i'll know which places to hit up right away, as soon as i fall back to old ways and need some points! (i'm waaaayyyyyy past the times when i would tell myself "never again".... what a set-up for self-loathing that phrase was).