Need your opinions- MS 60's

[kellyblue]

Ok- so what the hell is my problem? (Yes, I realize we could go on for days, so I'll narrow it down:)

My usual Oxy daily intake is upwards of 360 mgs... prescribed for the most part. Never had ANY stomach problems with them. (Unless of course I took too much at once, but that's MY fault.)

IV Morphine has also never given me any tummy probs... but every single time I take any MS Contin, whether whole or crushed, I get HORRIBLE (kill me now type) cramps and vomiting about an hour and a half after ingestion. I'm between pain docs, new one tomorrow- and supplementing until then. Today I chewed a 60, and within the hour and a half window, wished I was dead. I'm talking "worse than labor" cramps... not worth the ride, let me tell you! I don't usually fell any euphoria from these but today I did get a little "light headed" for a few minutes, but was in too much pain to enjoy it.

I hadn't taken any of these in a couple years, and today I remembered why... Anyone else have this problem? I'd just snort the damn things, but hate the gel... I'm a baby, sorry.

Thanks in advance!

(Oh- in case anyone had noticed- I apologize for my abscence... between the w/d, personal shit, and trying to find a new doc, and some serious depression- I just haven't felt very chatty. Hopefully I'm back now.)

[Papa Verine]

That sounds aweful! I can't imagine what would be causing this. Is it possible that something else in the pills besides the morphine is causing these severe stomach problems?

I really don't get it. I've never heard of any opiate-tolerant person getting severe cramps and vomitting from Morphine Sulphate pills.

I hope somebody here has a possible explanation and can help you figure out what's going on.

[port rhombus]

Probably a dumb question, but is it possible that you're actually experiencing withdrawal symptoms?

60mg of oral morphine isn't much compared to >360mg (via any ROA) of oxycodone.

Have you had the same problem with different brands of morphine sulfate tablets?

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

Probably a dumb question, but is it possible that you're actually experiencing withdrawal symptoms?

60mg of oral morphine isn't much compared to >360mg (via any ROA) of oxycodone.

No GOOD question
also are you taking full /empty stomach?
Generics?
more info please

[kellyblue]

Thanks Guys...

No- absolutely not w/d related. I've been off ALL opies for almost three weeks, due to the doc situation. Did a mad taper, and then suffered a couple days but fine ever since. I took the meds on a "medium" stomach- IE: had a bagel and tea this morning... a cupcake an hour before the pill. So- not too much food, but certainly enough.

I can't think that it would be a filler in the pill, but maybe- that's why I asked all of you esteemed members... LOL! I'm completely stumped, but I'll tell you, I will NEVER forget again. You can have these damned things!

Oh- and these were Mallie 60's... as were the last ones I'm pretty sure.

Thanks again, and keep the suggestions coming!

[WhyCatsPaint]

Kelly,

Ugh, It sounds like you have been going through hell the past few weeks I hope this new doctor helps you.

Not sure if I can give you any exact answers to your nausea but morphine has always had a tendency to make me feel ill. I have never had the severe abdominal pain like you did after ingesting MsContin but it's been awhile but here lately I have been dealing with tons of nausea and not sure what the cause is. I think some of it can be linked to stress but not sure because I get it often after I eat and the other day when I had a small amount of milk I was in the bathroom for nearly a hour throwing up and clutching on to my stomach cursing milk (figured I am lactose intolerant, I suppose) but it's not just milk it's been a few things.

Yours may not be be anything similar to mine and yours could be as a result of the MsContin it wouldn't surprise me but not sure if maybe stress could be making it more severe. Either way I hope you get prescribed something different by the new pain doctor and never have to deal with Ms Contins again get over the nausea soon I hate feeling nausea and that mouth watering feeling... ugh

Edit:
Also if you had some what of an allergy to them in the past maybe it has become worse? I know allergies develop or become worse in many people.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

ah SORRY FORGOT about this one-
maintain for couple years on 2 MS100's Malies a day
TRULY only one way to get best bang for buck and avoid all stomach issue- yOU DO NOT want to go there
orally MORPHINE a very low BIO availability forgot like 30's - verse oxy 85ish
never had stomach issue at all, long legs of morph is great maintenance , mm not great pain control (unless spiked- don't do UNLESs very experience there)

BEST SUGGESTION i CAN THINK OF IS DROP PILL A GLASS OF WATER WITH A BIT OF VINEGAR, trying to duplicate (JUST a bit of stomach environment) let sit 12 hours in frig, stir ,fuck whenever)
12hours later drink your MORPHINE waste with LIGHT food soda cracker & banana
willing to bet this will work for more pleasant and effective use avoiding the pukes:(
MORPHINE is just hard on stomach, and your very sensitive to that.
or geez one step down from spike would be -err ah how shall I politely say PLUGGING to a pretty woman. obvious location completely avoids stomach an bio is double
hope this may help in future, you may find give the shit state of medical community/ DEA
MS is going to be shove down throat by Docs , scare of anything OXY enter DEA INTO PRACTICE
yea dumb, dumb, dumb, but reality in US
OC = evil in many growing % of Docs

I type for shit- so i go nap now- took 45 minutes for this -lol:D

[Madam Oxy]

KB:
Whatever happened with this? You had an appt with a new doc the next day...what did he think?