Is pot really a "gateway" drug ?

[Chipper]

Is cannabis really a "gateway" drug?

It was for me but that's just because it was available in school, was cheap and I grew my own before I discovered morphine and amphetamines.

What do you think?

I went for "maybe" and started when I was 13. Morphine ampules at 16.

[OxyBlowBall2]

well i know i started out with pot too. it wasnt like pot wasnt enough anymore and i needed something harder to do. i was curious about all drugs but pot was the first one i could get a hold of so i dunno if it is really a gateway drug. maybe it is for some people.

[Seedy]

i voted yes as in yes it can be. for me the first gateway drug was alcohol, when I found out that alcohol actually is just another drug, and that some of my friends were smoking weed and they were ok I soon started smoking it myself. Pretty much as soon as I knew I had access to other drugs I was curious. So I guess for anyone predisposed to enjoying being intoxicated any drug can be a gateway.

[Dan Steely]

I think I started with ciggs(for the buzz). Grass in the fall of my 6th grade and then I got really drunk 7th grade new years. My daughter is in eighth grade and I can't imagine her and her tiny little friends doing stuff like that. I really don't think she does. I would be floored to find out otherwise. She's so small and child like but I can tell she is turning a corner in her life. I do think she'll stay clean for awhile though. She seems to have bought into the "drugs are bad" mindset. My dad could tell I was gonna do whatever I wanted so his drug talk was just "be careful". I have been pretty careful too. I wonder if that was why.

Is weed a gateway? Maybe sorta but I think it's more a matter of having a curious mentality and a degree of independent arrogance too.

Years before I ever got involved with opiates I would often say that people that did opi's were arrogant to think that "they" would be cool enough not to get addicted, and that's exactly what I thought when I got started.:rolleyes:

[youwonhundred]

Is weed a gateway? Maybe sorta but I think it's more a matter of having a curious mentality and a degree of independent arrogance too.


Said better than I would have.

[Chipper]

I think you're onto something, DS. Maybe Nicotine or alcohol are the real gateway drugs.

[digby]

I agree with Seedy in that for most people, alcohol is likely the original gateway drug closely followed by grass. I think this was more true when other drugs were less available than grass and grass was dirt cheap. But I challenge anyone to think back and decide if they had grass before a beer or a mouthful of alcohol - and that should decide what indeed is the true gateway drug.

[OxyBlowBall2]

But I challenge anyone to think back and decide if they had grass before a beer or a mouthful of alcohol - and that should decide what indeed is the true gateway drug.

i had pot before alcohol. i was a freshman in high school when i first started smoking. i didn't really drink until i was a sophomore. actually i did speed and pain killers before i started drinking too so alcohol wasn't a gateway drug for me.

[Flowergirl]

For me it wasn't. For kids, lack of parental involvement and entirely too much unsupervised free time are gateway drugs.

It just stands to reason that pot is on the bottom of the totem pole in terms of what drugs those who choose to use do first. Probably right near alcohol and nicotine. No one goes straight for lines of coke or a syringe of heroin, I don't think. If you become a user of hard drugs, you probably screwed around with weed at one time or another first. That's like saying your first crappy apartment is a gateway home. No shit. ;)

[Morfiend]

marijuana being illegal causes you to meet people who sell other things/use other things as well. I think if you could purchase marijuana at a store or grow it legally, the correlation between marijuana and say opiate use would be no different than cigarettes and opiate use.

[I-Nod]

Seedy took the words right outta my mouth. Alcohol definitely had a dampening effect on my inhabitions (mispelt?).

[Dan Steely]

I just remembered the original gateway drug. We probably all did this with our friends as little kids. It's when you put your arms out and spin around and around until you get really dizzy and fall down laughing.

[Chipper]

Those were the daze (sic)! I had the greatest childhood and used to roll down a hill to get that same effect. I've since learn't that the quality of your childhood has little to do with one's drug career.

[nodrover]

Just like blow ball said; weed was the first drug I tried, but I was always interested in trying other drugs. Seriously I was this little ass kid goin on Erowid all the time looking drugs up.....and I would go into school askin around and all that...........lol....I was a total seeker, I wasn't the victim of a gateway drug.

[nodrover]

marijuana being illegal causes you to meet people who sell other things/use other things as well. I think if you could purchase marijuana at a store or grow it legally, the correlation between marijuana and say opiate use would be no different than cigarettes and opiate use.
+1 sir!

[30_Units]

Don't buy the gateway theory. The 'gateway' is just whatever mind-altering thing you find first, as others have said.

Just because I found pot first only means that kids weren't selling heroin or coke or whatever it is that I ended up doing back in 6th grade.

[EleusisII]

It was for me I guess, but the whole matter of "gateway drugs" is really a ridiculous discussion, and a term invented by prohibitionist ofr the sake of, well... Prohibition.
So many other factors play into whether you'll end up as a junkie or not than "Oh geez, I sure liked that pot! Now I'm really going to wet my beak with all them drugs!"

[Leave it ta Beaver]

I believe it can be a gateway drug it was what i started using, but I know lots of cats who smoked pot an never went further!
I think it depends on each indavidual some are more likely to move to harder shit and some are'nt!

[Duckfeet]

I don't know: my first drug use was benzadrine, which you could buy OTC in Nicaragua, and then I smoked pot, and didn't like "all that much" best I can remember...but those two drugs, got me thinking that 1) My parents didn't know shit and 2) Drugs made life more fun.

I didn't consider alcohol "a drug," since it was so socially acceptable.

And later, I was in vietnam and heroin was just everywhere, and we were all young, etc, who knows...

As EL says, there are so many other factors, hard to figure "what caused what..."

[lotus]

maybe.

the number of people i knew who actually progressed the way the "gateway" ladder goes? few, and extremely far between.

off the bat people seem'd to have one of two mentalities - either they wanted to get fucked up or they didn't. period.

the ones who wanted to get fucked up would do whatever, whenever. cigarettes, alcohol and weed just happen'd to (usually) be the first thing we'd get our hands on because vast numbers of people do them (parents) and it was easy enough to take a little........in turn vast numbers of people have a little extra to *get rid of*.

people wanting to get fucked up naturally gravitating towards one another inevitably widens the array of available shit.....i think how quickly you end up in that gravitational pull dictates how quickly you'll (maybe) do other shit more than anything.

people who can't be bother'd - they're the ones who do it cause their friends do (party after the football game)......because of statistics a few of them will end up junkies,

and then there's the people who just want to fit in anywhere they can - the pot heads behind the school usually aren't as fuktard as the rest of the school and take you as is. again, thru numbers, some will become addicts.

the whole gateway belief........it's too easy. it's not any different than the church blaming the devil for the natural curiosity of humans.

people want to believe - i'm not sure, actually....they want to believe that their kids and loved ones didn't do it by choice. the irony being once truly addicted, you lose sight of the ability to choose.

[Paregoric Kid]

fuck no. no one smokes pot and says HEY I THINK I'LL GO TRY HEROIN OR COCAINE!
I tried methadone and getting drunk before I ever tried smoking pot. in fact I tried smoking hash oil before I ever even smoked regular cannabis. and before I did any recreational drugs I was on prescription stimulants since first grade and in high doses, stuff like ritalin but through most of school I was on dexedrine.

[EleusisII]

The only thing that can be said in favor of the gateway drug theory is, that once you try pot, some of the stigma concerning drugs is gone, but even that argument is pretty far out...

[nuts4roxies]

pot can be a gateway drug but really anything can be a gateway drug whatever you find first the reason most people see pot as a getway drug is because we are told as little children well most of us that pot is just as bad as herion or crystal meth so when you try pot and see its not bad at all you think well if they wrong about pot they were wrong about all other drugs atleast thats how i see it

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

You could say the same thing about alcohol. I think people just have more access to weed and statistics show X amount of heavy drug users started with pot. Well, of course they did, that shit is wayyyy easier to get than heroin. I certainly never blamed it for getting me into opiates, I got into opiates because of how I felt on them. Period. Never felt stoned on opiates, just really good. Pot has done the opposite for many of my friends. One was a bad drunk that started smoking pot and quit drinking, another was a coke-head who got off the shit by smoking pot daily, and a third was a heavy benzo user who broke their habit with the help of pot. So I believe it's the opposite of a gateway drug IME It get's people OFF the harder shit, not on it.

[Ickyuck]

I don't really feel that pot is a gateway drug. However...

It opens you up to the fact that there are things that exist that will alter your mind and body.

Its up to the user to decide if they want to pursue any further.

[Morphus]

marijuana being illegal causes you to meet people who sell other things/use other things as well. I think if you could purchase marijuana at a store or grow it legally, the correlation between marijuana and say opiate use would be no different than cigarettes and opiate use.

This question has come up many times and I think that pot is "maybe" a gateway drug; not because the pot doesnt do it and you need something harder but because it introduces you to the concept of "scoring" and an underground subculture, I think Morfiend up there put it well.

[duck]

My dad could tell I was gonna do whatever I wanted so his drug talk was just "be careful". I have been pretty careful too. I wonder if that was why.

Same thing with me -- and compared to all of my friends who had parents who screamed and demanded abstinence, I was far, far more prudent and reasonable. Whenever you have to take responsibility for yourself you start to actually think -- whenever someone tells you not to do something, you just respond emotionally by resisting for the sake of resistance.

Pot is definitely a gateway drugs. However, I do not see it as the initial gateway drug. Any drug is a gateway drug. All drugs show you that you can alter your consciousness, which you then realize can be executed in more specific ways that suit your fancy by using different types of drugs.

For me, pot always made me sleeeeeepy...so I decided to start doing coke.....which made me too wired.....so I started doing heroin.....which made me too tired so I started doing meth....which made me a bit obsessive...so I started taking benzos, which also made me a bit sleepy....so I took adderall, which kind of makes me nervous, so I smoke weed to calm down after a long day....which then makes me sleepy so I do some coke.

It's a highly simulated existence, just barely above subsistence

[Tony]

pot can be a gateway drug but really anything can be a gateway drug whatever you find first the reason most people see pot as a getway drug is because we are told as little children well most of us that pot is just as bad as herion or crystal meth so when you try pot and see its not bad at all you think well if they wrong about pot they were wrong about all other drugs atleast thats how i see it


I had the same thing happen!

I tried Pot and Speed very young.I remember that we all watched
Reefer Madness and I was reading the newspaper where LSD and Pot would
make people leave there babys in the bathtub and do shit like look at the sun
till they got blind!

I remember thinking that if they lied about Drugs what else did they lie about!

That was it for me I was off to the races......

[nick]

Jesus,of course it isn't.

[EleusisII]

Wasn't the whole term originally invented to put marijuana in a bad light, so to speak?

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

I had the same thing happen!

I tried Pot and Speed very young.I remember that we all watched
Reefer Madness and I was reading the newspaper where LSD and Pot would
make people leave there babys in the bathtub and do shit like look at the sun
till they got blind!

I remember thinking that if they lied about Drugs what else did they lie about!

That was it for me I was off to the races......

HEY it did not help when ART LINKLETTER's daughter jump off the roof of tall building whilst tripping.

gateway drug- ALCOHOL without a doubt

[Morfiend]

I think it is naive in general to blame a drug for anything...

the term "gateway drug" implies that it is a property of the drug itself that it's users move on to more destructive alternatives (whatever that means)

but really... I think we would all agree that it is the people we associate with, the advice of people we respect, the media and other factors that really have an impact on the decisions we make.

When people state "marijuana is a gateway drug" I think really all they mean to say is "it is more likely for someone to try a 'hard drug' once they try marijuana; and it is more likely for someone to try marijuana as their first mind altering drug (with the intention of getting high) than a 'hard drug' "

well perhaps this is true, but this relationship is much too complex to conclude all the things about marijuana that people seem to from this.

[chopstix]

"Gateway" - gateway to what - using another chemical to get high?? Like if all cannabis was eradicated people wouldn't do other drugs. Please..

Ironic that this kind of bullshit is largely spawned by idiots with full liquor cabinets..

[Tony]

HEY it did not help when ART LINKLETTER's daughter jump off the roof of tall building whilst tripping.

gateway drug- ALCOHOL without a doubt

True, she was on LSD. If I remember she had also been drinking.

It is my opinion that folks that do " go over the edge " have
underlying mental problems and of course should not take
any kind of drugs and drink anyway.

My drug of choice was Crown Royal before I caught Hep C.
How many folks have been killed, maimed or commited
crimes while drunk! No comparison in my mind...

The true gateway drug is Mother Milk if you follow the drug
war logic. All drug addicts drank milk before they smoked
pot so...... Mother Milk should be banned!

Sorry I had someone slip some LSD in my drink at a party
onle time and I looked at the sun to long......

[EleusisII]

Heh, it's funny when you hear some of the urban legends originally about LSD being applied to new drugs.

I don't know if you've heard about Khat (This plant that Somalis like to chew for a quick amphetamine like high), but I remember a COP telling us in gradeschool how somebody ate some Khat and jumped of a building because he thought he could fly, and how meth-users sometimes cut themselves open because they think that they have bugs under their skin.
Me being a smartass, and having heard about the LSD story asked the cop if it wasn't just an urban legend about LSD, to which he said "Sure, I imagine somebody would do that on LSD too!"
Then he lit some hashish, and passed it around so we could see what it smelled like (and run away if we smelled it, I assume was the objective) and when he wasn't looking me and my friends tried to inhale the smoke, even though none of us had tried smoking pot yet, lol!
Damn, 7th grade was fun!

[Paregoric Kid]

another thing is that the University of Pittsburgh recently finished a 12 year study that concluded pot was not a gateway drug. the first time I did a recreational drug or any drug after that it was because I wanted to feel its effects, if it didn't sound appealing at all I probably wouldn't even try it or maybe just once. the fact is most people who smoke pot don't go on to try hard drugs and the ones who do nearly all of them don't end up becoming addicts to hard drugs.

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

too fucking drunk too many times, JUST KEEP FALLING INTO GATE or driving my car through.
AND NOW YOU TELL ME THERE WAS A GATE WAY
why didn't they just leave that fucking gate open for me????

[jo-jo]

For me it definitely was not. I tried pot a couple times right after high school and hated it (made me puke like crazy) Then in the last couple of years I discovered opiates and fell hard!

[BlueMajick]

I think a gateway drug is any drug that makes you do something illegal, and something that you wouldn't want to admit to your parents to get it.

This gets you in the habit of having to do 'drug deals' with 'shady characters'... which when you're underage even getting cigs from an older sibling or friend is the same thing.

Usually they say pot is because of how easy it is to get, and how you don't have to go into the big city, and deal with gangs and all that, when there's usually someone in the school yard selling... But i think THE gateway drug can change as times change, and i think more and more now pharms are probably becoming the new gateway drug as they are much easier to obtain, going into your medicine cabinet, there doesn't even need to be the one older sibling of your friend that drives to the city or whatever... but you still know it's illegal to have, and you wouldn't tell your parents you took it.

[Ludakris]

For me, pot was definitely no "gateway"

In high school, the first "drug" I ever tried was mushrooms...had my first trip and didn't touch anything for 3 years...then I smoked pot, found it fun and did it every now and then, then became an every day user of the reefer, and I was happy to leave it there...I never had any need or want to try any other drug, pot was good enough for me...well, given that peer pressure is a bitch, I gave in to trying ecstasy and when it didn't make me completely lose control and lose my mind like the officers said in D.A.R.E, well that's when I realized that harder drugs weren't so bad...so technically, ecstasy was my gateway...cause I was like, fuck it, I've already done one "hard" drug and liked it, so now lets try EVERY hard drug and see if I like that too...enter my crystal meth era...

[Morfiend]

when it didn't make me completely lose control and lose my mind like the officers said in D.A.R.E, well that's when I realized that harder drugs weren't so bad...

ya hear that? D.A.R.E indirectly encourages hard drug use.

Why can't they just tell the truth instead of using scare tactics? The truth just might work.

[ShamanicHaze]

Any gateway effects that come from cannabis are simply due to its legality.

[JTDuffet]

i actually think alcohol and tobacco are the true gateway drugs... but i think there are no gateway drugs. if you have that thing inside where you want to experience things. or try things. or push lmits.. then your gonna try drugs.. pot is just low on the food chain..


-jt

[jpeg]

i voted yes, as once i first started smoking herb i became very curious as to what other drugs felt like. i imagine i would have tried the hard stuff eventually without it though.
i saw a doc once where people were saying that the only reason pot is a possible gateway drug is because its against the law to possess/sell. so for that reason you wind up exposed to other drugs. they were saying that if it were legal, you wouldn't be exposed to other drugs as easily. i'm not sure how i feel about that, i do see thier point though.

[nhop]

Heh, Im real surprised at the number of people who think that pot is or might be a gateway drug. And this is a "pro" drug site??

For the vast majority of people, there is no "gateway" effect whatsoever. This is proven.

[DCBA]

I think the main gateway effect that it may have is from availability and from the fact that anti-drug propaganda says that weed is just as bad as other drugs like heroin and cocaine. And then when a kid or small adult uses pot for the first time and finds it a pretty non harmfull drug then he may think that the other drugs like heroin and cocaine are also not harmfull, cause they have been lied about pot so the anti-drug propaganda may have lied about the others too.

[mac]

It was for me but I voted "maybe" because it might not be for someone else. I guess any drug could be considered a "gateway" drug, it just depends on what one you start with and if it leads to the use of other drugs. In my personal experience, smoking weed led me to discover that there were, to say the least, some lies fed to us to scare us away from smoking pot. Once I tried it and realized it was harmless, I wanted to experiment with other drugs to see what else the police, my teachers, and the establishment lied about. This is why education using objective information to allow people to make their own decisions is much better than vilifying and demonizing something.

[NOLA]

No its definitely not.

The thing is, people that are willing to try weed are going to be much more likely to try another drug. Obviously Weed is usually the first thing that curious kids will try, but it has nothing to do with moving on to other things.

[Chipper]

I think the main gateway effect that it may have is from availability and from the fact that anti-drug propaganda says that weed is just as bad as other drugs like heroin and cocaine. And then when a kid or small adult uses pot for the first time and finds it a pretty non harmfull drug then he may think that the other drugs like heroin and cocaine are also not harmfull, cause they have been lied about pot so the anti-drug propaganda may have lied about the others too.

That sounds so familiar : I thought exactly that, at some point in my youth.

[Dr. Mulholland]

I think weed can be a gateway drug, but that's more due to the propaganda than the drug itself, as others have noted. I started with opiates so I can't speak from experience but if I had finally tried weed for the first time, after having listened to how one joint can turn you into a crazy drug addicted rapist and failure at life, etc., etc., and found that weed is basically harmless, I'd probably assume that I've been lied to about meth and heroin, too

The fact that weed being illegal forces you to find drug dealers who most likely know a guy who knows a guy who deals "harder" drugs can contribute to the gateway theory, too.

[Chipper]

You've nailed it. The people are the gateway, not so much the drug. You cross the line of legality and suddenly you're more exposed. Therein lies the problem. I concede that my "maybe" is now a "yes" vote.

Whoops, I forgot to formally welcome you, Dr.

[Dhedmo]

I think you're onto something, DS. Maybe Nicotine or alcohol are the real gateway drugs.
Amen

[OpiGuRu729]

No I don't think "pot" is a "gateway drug" if anything alcohol is the "gateway drug"... alcohol is far worse than pot... it makes you do things you wouldn't normally do, for example some people get drunk and then want to do coke but they wouldn't do it if they were sober... alcohol is probably the worst gateway drug there is... that is if you believe in gateway drugs... i don't feel like any drug really makes you do another drug it just depends on the person...








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[bodytec]

i voted YES but maybe not
it was last for my wife and several friends so...
was first for me but didn't have to be
i got the allure of selling drugs long before i did for using them,long before

[Fat Pie]

Not IMO. Smoked for ages and didn't touch any class A drugs. Never thought to ask my dealer for any. Now he sells me dope 3 years on. It seems to be the one everyoe starts with because it's the most widely used, easy to get a hold of, and isn't frowned upon by teens who've grown up in the DARE culture.

[Suboxer]

Weed fucks up your personality, self-image and self-expectations, and introduces you to the black market. It's a volatile combination. I think ethanol does the same, except it takes a lot longer to fuck your personality up, and in a different way (violent/dramatic vs. paranoid/conspiratorial), but it reduces your inhibitions more. At the same time it doesn't introduce you to the black market. If you don't have any black market connections, you can get as loose as many times a day for as many months as it takes to fuck up your personality if you want, and you still can't get any other drug besides cigarettes. So, yes, weed IS a gateway drug, IMO the main one - but other ones can be too.

[Anthropioid]

For myself, I found nicotine and alcohol to be gateway drugs that led to me wanting to try other forms of intoxication. obviously weed is probably the most prevalent "illegal" drug that just about anyone can find if they want to. I honestly think that DARE programs don't work, and actually encourage young people to experiment with drugs (at least it did for me). It's just like the forbidden fruit in the garden of eden. Curiosity is a part of the human psyche. Unfortunatley the "powers that be" need a scapegoat to justiify why the war on drugs needs to remain in place and weed seems to be the first and easiest target.

[losangeleslifer]

IMO, a "gateway drug" is the first drug you experience.

You got to start somewhere.

[nick]

If cannabis is a gateway drug I'm the Pope.

[losangeleslifer]

If cannabis is a gateway drug I'm the Pope.

Do you ever tire wearing thoses robes and that hat?

[nick]

Do you ever tire wearing thoses robes and that hat?

No,my son.I think they make look really sharp.

Christ be with you.

[Larkin]

marijuana being illegal causes you to meet people who sell other things/use other things as well. I think if you could purchase marijuana at a store or grow it legally, the correlation between marijuana and say opiate use would be no different than cigarettes and opiate use.

my thoughts exactly. If you don't meet these shady characters that sell illegal drugs, u can not get the drugs. If you could get pot at a store or dispensary of some sort, you would never have to consort with said characters.

For me, pot was one of my first drugs, but not my very first. and i wasnt pressured into any of it either. I always had a curiosity for it. Drugs and their mechanisms and everything about them still intrigues me. Oh, and they feel pretty good too.

[sidman]

In my opinion nicotine,because of how addictive it is, is the "original" gateway drug. Youngsters usually get thier hands on smokes before Pot and by the time they DO score some Pot ( in an average case ) they are usually by then, regular cig smokers. We wouldn't hear 'bout DAT though because they's ( Big Tobbaco ind.'s) makin' TOOOOO much $$$$ off of Us to tell Us the truth.
POOR POOR Marijuana has gotten such a "bad-rap" by the propagandist's out there...I mean really...have you seen the lawsuit commercials against "Yaz"? Didn't they not too long ago JUST release that drug? I better not even get started ranting and raving 'bout this but Pot is probably THE only MEDICINE with so many benefits which research is STILL discovering and NO ( virtually ) side effects ( besides hardcore s'more's attacks ) that are anywhere NEAR as bad as what they "synthesize" at "Big Pharmy"....it's bullshit.

[J.Dot]

In my opinion, I don't believe it is. Maybe that's because I started with other drugs, before I ever took my first bong snap, but I'm not sure.

I tried alcohol, vicodin, and mdma before I ever smoked herb. But, I know that everybody is different, and different people react differently.

[doctor diesel]

If I could chill out with MJ, I wouldn't use hard stuff. But the truth is that I react very badly to MJ - let's say it disagrees with me - so I'm left with no option if I really want to relax and forget about my woes.
Ironically, if I could suddenly get on with MJ like most people do, then it could be said that H was my gateway to cannabis - har har!
The real gateway to drugs for me was my wife falling ill and suffering chronic pain, doctors doing little about it, and me attempting to find alternative ways of alleviating her pain.
Yep, that's how it all started.


Doc

[SHELLEY]

pot is only a gateway drug for folks that are determined to get high
you want a high, the only thing you can find is herb, there's your gateway right there
alcohol will work, or cigs, or cough syrup, or pills, whatever you find first
when you've already said to yourself, "you know what'll be fun? drugs!"

my first drug was crystal meth, so that was my gateway to pot :D

[DCBA]

If I could chill out with MJ, I wouldn't use hard stuff. But the truth is that I react very badly to MJ - let's say it disagrees with me - so I'm left with no option if I really want to relax and forget about my woes.
Ironically, if I could suddenly get on with MJ like most people do, then it could be said that H was my gateway to cannabis - har har!
The real gateway to drugs for me was my wife falling ill and suffering chronic pain, doctors doing little about it, and me attempting to find alternative ways of alleviating her pain.
Yep, that's how it all started.


Doc


You started by getting street drugs for your wife? what drugs were they?

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

pot is only a gateway drug for folks that are determined to get high
you want a high, the only thing you can find is herb, there's your gateway right there
alcohol will work, or cigs, or cough syrup, or pills, whatever you find first
when you've already said to yourself, "you know what'll be fun? drugs!"

my first drug was crystal meth, so that was my gateway to pot :D

SHELLEY HUH?
OF COURSE EVERYONE WHO SMOKES POT DOES SO TO GET HIGH
I doubt anyone smoke it NOT to get high (excepr B.Cinton, didn't inhale)
and despite smoking cigs for 20+ years as determeoned as i was ,I never get high from them


CAN WE ALL JUST AGREE THERE IS NO GATEWAY:rolleyes:

EVEN DISCUSSING IT JUST DEMONIZE THE BAD IMAGE OF GOOD DRUGS IN GENERALLY

[doctor diesel]

You started by getting street drugs for your wife? what drugs were they?


No, not the street. First CWEs on OTC codeines, then masses of codeine sulphates from the internet, then CWEs on OTC dihydrocodeines, then poppy seed tea, and finally the real McCoy - POD TEA.
There ya go.
From there of course, my curiosity was spiked, and I did indeed venture out onto THE STREET. For myself. ;)


Doc

[doctor diesel]

But having said that, given the choice between using street H and watching Family Guy, I'd choose the latter, thank you. :)


Doc

[blackman]

CAN WE ALL JUST AGREE THERE IS NO GATEWAY:rolleyes:




Yes, yes we can, GnD.;)

[Dhedmo]

my first drug was crystal meth, so that was my gateway to pot :D

holy crap!