Injecting Oxymorphone EXTENDED RELEASE

[Synack]

As of 09/23/09 there is no fast way to fix these but if you prep them a day in advance, you can still shoot them.

I only tried a 12 hour extraction period this time but I'd give it 24 if you want to make sure it's all out.

I didn't remove the coating but I'd recommend someone try and verify that nothing goes wrong as if you don't, the shot gets that color.

Place a pill in 5-10ml hot water (Yes, it's ALOT of water, IMO the more the better) - place the pill in, I stirred it every so often but I'd recommend just leaving it as is.

wait 12 to 24 hours...

remove the pill shell & filter the fluid for injection.

At this point you can either reduce the amount of fluid via evaporation OR you can just shoot it as is.

There's a few alcohol based evaporation methods going around which do sometimes work to some extent but it's hit and miss, mostly miss.

Don't crush the pill because it would cause the gel to spread to all of the fluid.

Questions?

[chopstix]

Questions?

Why do gas pumps take 40 seconds to count 20 cents worth of gasoline?

[OpiXPO]

Why do gas pumps take 40 seconds to count 20 cents worth of gasoline?

Because you touch yourself at night.

[samsong]

No questions, but sounds like your happy with the results?

My best friend gets the 5mg IR rx'd. He also had a PICC line inserted two weeks ago for at home antibiotic treatment long story, he was in hospital for weeks). The first 12 days of the having the PICC line, not a pill (or anything else to be found)--very sad, ironic, and frustrating.

However, he got his Opana IRs refilled yesterday, finally, and he says it is just unreal the power of the rush via PICC line. But more sad news, the PIC line comes out Friday as antibiotic treatment is ending. In long run, it is for the best, as those IRs would be gone before first week of the rx if PIC line stays in.

Sorry for derailment.

[Synack]

No questions, but sounds like your happy with the results?

My best friend gets the 5mg IR rx'd. He also had a PICC line inserted two weeks ago for at home antibiotic treatment long story, he was in hospital for weeks). The first 12 days of the having the PICC line, not a pill (or anything else to be found)--very sad, ironic, and frustrating.

However, he got his Opana IRs refilled yesterday, finally, and he says it is just unreal the power of the rush via PICC line. But more sad news, the PIC line comes out Friday as antibiotic treatment is ending. In long run, it is for the best, as those IRs would be gone before first week of the rx if PIC line stays in.

Sorry for derailment.

It works, it's just a PITA since you need ALOT of fluid for the extraction...

[Larkin]

No questions, but sounds like your happy with the results?

My best friend gets the 5mg IR rx'd. He also had a PICC line inserted two weeks ago for at home antibiotic treatment long story, he was in hospital for weeks). The first 12 days of the having the PICC line, not a pill (or anything else to be found)--very sad, ironic, and frustrating.

However, he got his Opana IRs refilled yesterday, finally, and he says it is just unreal the power of the rush via PICC line. But more sad news, the PIC line comes out Friday as antibiotic treatment is ending. In long run, it is for the best, as those IRs would be gone before first week of the rx if PIC line stays in.

Sorry for derailment.


Do you really thank that will stop the pills from going in his arm? I hope so, but you know how desperate we can get.

[bodytec]

are these not able to be done like the e.r.morphine pills?
with them,you can heat the gell and the water,with dope in it,settles to the bottom.
then you just scrape the goo off the top.

[Opiyum]

Why do gas pumps take 40 seconds to count 20 cents worth of gasoline?

Oh my god. This is my biggest pet peeve. There is a BP I USED to use on the way to work that would have me wait the better part of two minutes to pump the last 50 cents of gas. I think it's a ploy. They figure some people won't be patient enough to wait or will be in too much of a hurry.
Thanks for posting this Synack. Some day maybe it will come in handy.

[simfromstoke]

Oh my god. This is my biggest pet peeve. There is a BP I USED to use on the way to work that would have me wait the better part of two minutes to pump the last 50 cents of gas. I think it's a ploy. They figure some people won't be patient enough to wait or will be in too much of a hurry.
Thanks for posting this Synack. Some day maybe it will come in handy.


do you guys have to pre-pay for your petrol then.

id be fucked over there
one of my favourite lifesaver scams is once ive managed to scrape about £7 or £8 to get a bag then i call my man and if i have to drive to him somewhere. i jump in the car, -no petrol!!
so i drive to the garage
stick about £3.50 in then walk up to the cashier and feign the "shit! im sorry, ive left my wallet back at home on the table. i'll go straight back and get you the money now.."

and any amount under a fiver £5 or a tenner and they'll usually write it off when you dont return. anything more than a tenner and they might ring the old bill if you dont return that day

but cash up front for petrol.. that would be me screwed
is it cash up front if you just pay on the pump or do you have to go in and give the cashier payment before they'll autherise the pump?
the only other place ive seen where you have to pay for petrol before you can draw it is in italy in some of the quieter 24hr garages where they wouldnt have an attendent after like 5pm

[SlimContin420]

Personally, I prefer Oxymorphone. I've never shot up Hydro or Oxymorphone before but, I've snorted upwards of 13 4mg dilaudid's and the buzz is shit. Snorted ten mg's of opana and it was great. All my buddies tell me that next time I come around either of those I should rig it up because the rush and buzz is amazing.
Where I live in florida it's really hard to come by Opana or Dilaudid so I stick to shooting oxycodone IR's 30mg. :) HELL YEA!!!

[Computerdoc80]

So....do you think 24-36 hrs would soak out most of the drug?? I get 4 40's a day and can afford to wait. I also quit IV about 20 yrs ago...so if you down the liquid, is it like getting a 40mg IR???

[port rhombus]

So....do you think 24-36 hrs would soak out most of the drug?? I get 4 40's a day and can afford to wait. I also quit IV about 20 yrs ago...so if you down the liquid, is it like getting a 40mg IR???

I don't really think that's necessary. Crushing Opana ER to a fine powder should do a good enough job of defeating the time release matrix for oral use.

[Synack]

I don't really think that's necessary. Crushing Opana ER to a fine powder should do a good enough job of defeating the time release matrix for oral use.

but if you're going to the trouble of crushing it - just snort it - so much better than oral use.

[Computerdoc80]

but if you're going to the trouble of crushing it - just snort it - so much better than oral use.

tried it.. gels up like real snot!! gives you a big clump you gotta swallow with some liquid before you puke (the bad puke)

[lotus]

24-36 hrs would soak out most of the drug??

i'd be worried about getting *cotton fever* doing that (don't know if it's the same bacteria).

sounds retarded, but i've seen it happen - not from the syringe, or spoon, but from shit sitting in water for a day or two accumulating a swarm of bacteria.

[butane]

I have found a quick easy method that works.

Get two containers, one your spoon and the other something larger that you can easily heat up, either by microwaving or heating from the bottom with a lighter. This method will also require two needles, one to do the extracting and one to inject the product.

Remove the pill coating, I do this by licking it and rubbing it on my shirt but you can use whatever method you like. Crush it up and put it in the big container.

Add anywhere from 2 to 4 mL of 91% or better rubbing alcohol, depending how many mg you have in there. Methanol also works well if you can get it. I usually do between 10 and 20mg at a time. Stir it up and let it sit for a half hour.

Using a large cotton and your extracting needle, filter the alcohol out and put it in your spoon. Add another 1 to 3 mL of alcohol, stir it up, and this time heat it for a bit. 10 second in the microwave is perfect, also you can heat it from the bottom with a lighter until it has boiled everywhere on the bottom, just depends what your container's made out of. Let it sit for 15-20 minutes.

While the alcohol's sitting, gently heat the spoon from the bottom and blow on the alcohol. You can even let it boil a little teeny bit, especially if it's methanol, because the boiling point of alcohol is lower than that of water. You don't have to evaporate it all yet though because you will be adding more.

After enough time has elapsed, do the whole large cotton alcohol filtration with your extraction needle and put it in your spoon. Evaporate this off the same way as before, but evaporate it all down until it becomes a film that will stick to the bottom of your spoon. It's unwise to use a lighter to get the last little bit of it to evaporate, as it will get very hot. You will just have to be patient.

Now, add 80 units of water to the spoon. Note that the film does not mix with the water, but the oxymorphone is indeed leeching out into the water. Let it sit for 20 to 30 minutes. Add a little cotton, and suck the water up into your injection needle. Add 20 more units, heat a little teeny bit, and suck it up. Inject.

You only get about half of the oxymorphone in your first shot. The film absorbs some of the water, so you won't get all that you put in. However, if you wait until the film is dried and repeat the injection procedure, you get another full shot out of it. A third pull will get you a little bit more, but anything after that is useless. The alcohol extraction is worth doing once more to get a little more out though, repeating the injection procedure on the new film.

This method works well and the resulting liquid is pretty clean. I think this is safer than injecting the particulate-filled IR pills.

[euphoricontin17]

No disrespect, butane but I think the reason why synack postest his is because it is easier. I mean Great job synack! This shit could NOT be easier. I think people like not having to use solvents. But also, thank you butane for your method as well as I am sure it has it's advantages.

[hydro chris]

imo shootin pills is a wast to me, i love the rush. but..
the tolerance issue would be such a hassle esp. with opana.
id need about 20-40 mgs to get a good rush wit the ir's
as it is..have done it twice, it not worth gettin into the whole
needle thing again.
i cant image shootin the er's, id would definitely have a massive
habit. i inhale 200-240 mgs a day, as it is now.

these days, the only thing id be shootin is *pure* like a few times a year.
i can see myself liking them er's just way to much wit a gun.

so ill just stick wit that nice little "and i do mean little" rushy-thing i get in my
stomach when snortin those little bitches.

[dieselbaby]

Posted this to Synack's profile, but I guess anyone with experience can chime in:

Hey my friend had a few questions he wanted me to ask you about your Opana ER extraction method.

What do you mean by 'remove the pill shell and filter the fluid for injection'? Should you just put the whole pill (coating and all) into say, 5ml of water (for a 20mg pill) and leave it overnight? Then, you carefully remove the pill shell (is the outer coating still intact after being left overnight) and then once that is removed everything is dissolved into the water and it's not a gel? Then you just filter it normally with a cotton and you're good to go? (if you don't want to reduce the amount of liquid, that is) Or do you just put the pill in (sans coating) and then after it has swelled up and it has been 12+ hours you just simply remove the remaining 'outer shell' of the pill? Is it a hollow, empty shell and all of the contents have now seeped into the surrounding water? What kind of container do you recommend for this extraction?

How much liquid is left after the waiting period? Is it still a full 5ml?

How efficient of an extraction would you consider this to be?

Thanks guys...sorry for all the questions.

[butane]

I started using methanol regularly in my extractions, and let me tell you it works WAY better than isopropyl. It's much faster.

I have a little metal cup maybe 1.5" around and the same tall that I put the pill in after it's had its coating removed and been crushed. Add just enough methanol (available at any gas station as Heet, get the yellow bottle) to cover it. I heat it from the bottom with a lighter until it boils, and then filter the methanol through a cotton and put it in a spoon. I have a separate stick that I broke the tip off of for this process, I just keep it around. It's way faster. Then, I evaporate the methanol off with a fan. You can heat it too but I've had it burst into flames and that's no good. Methanol evaporates very quickly though and in five minutes it will be gone.

From there, you just add your water to the spoon, wait a few minutes, filter though a cotton and go.

You can do multiple methanol extractions on the powder, and you can also get more than one shot from the stuff in the spoon. I would say 90% of it comes out in the first two runs, with the final 10% available from a third if you really want. This goes for both the methanol extraction of the powder, and the water in the spoon. With isopropyl, I would do five runs and still be getting high. Also with methanol, there's less material that ends up in the spoon along with the drug, so while there's less film on the spoon there's just as much drug. It's just better all the way around. The whole process from crushing the pill to a needle in your arm, takes ten minutes. Maybe twelve or fifteen until you get experienced.

[NY Hippie]

As a general rule of chemistry, heat usually increases the speed of a reaction; therefore, might it be possible to extract the oxymorphone from the pill in less time by boiling the water with the pill in it? Or would this just cause the pill to break-down/fall-apart and then gel up?

[mac]

Posted this to Synack's profile, but I guess anyone with experience can chime in:

Hey my friend had a few questions he wanted me to ask you about your Opana ER extraction method.

What do you mean by 'remove the pill shell and filter the fluid for injection'? Should you just put the whole pill (coating and all) into say, 5ml of water (for a 20mg pill) and leave it overnight? Then, you carefully remove the pill shell (is the outer coating still intact after being left overnight) and then once that is removed everything is dissolved into the water and it's not a gel? Then you just filter it normally with a cotton and you're good to go? (if you don't want to reduce the amount of liquid, that is) Or do you just put the pill in (sans coating) and then after it has swelled up and it has been 12+ hours you just simply remove the remaining 'outer shell' of the pill? Is it a hollow, empty shell and all of the contents have now seeped into the surrounding water? What kind of container do you recommend for this extraction?

How much liquid is left after the waiting period? Is it still a full 5ml?

How efficient of an extraction would you consider this to be?

Thanks guys...sorry for all the questions.

I'm curious about these same questions, did they ever get answered? Also, using this method, are there still any fillers and binders present in the solution?

[Synack]

To those of you actively using this method, are you removing the colored coating?

I never did, but I'm thinking the coloring isn't good for it.. but it can't be too bad I hope...

i'll answer those questions in a bit.

[NY Hippie]

I'm curious about these same questions, did they ever get answered? Also, using this method, are there still any fillers and binders present in the solution?

I can basically answer the jist of his questions. After 12 hours you are left with the "pill shell" and a milky liquid (probably "milky" from the pill coating), the liquid is slightly more viscous than water (but barely) and contains the extracted oxymorphone which has been released from TIMERx controlled release matrix. You will be left with almost all the liquid you initially added, with only a tiny amount of the water having been absorbed by the pill.

The "pill shell" he mentioned isn't a shell in the traditional sense of being a hollow exo-skeleton type outer-body or outer-coating of the former pill, it's more a rubber-like sponge in the shape of the original pill (composed of the gelatinous substance that would normally turn a ground-up pill into jelly when mixed with water) but in an expanded size and depleted of it's oxymorphone and inert fillers.

The pill "shell" can either be discarded or consumed for the trace amounts of oxymorphone that it may contain, although one "shell" probablly wont contain anywhere near enough oxymorphone to have any percievable effects when taken orally, so you may just want to save them all for use one day if you're having bad withdrawals. After you discard, store, or consume the pill "shell," you just filter the milky water to remove any of the inert fillers and then it's ready to be shot (unless you want to reduce it first).

I've been using a standard amber-colored plastic pill bottle to do this, and from experience with Opana IRs, I would say that the extraction is at least 90% effecient.

To answer my question before, heating the liquid to a simmer does not speed up the reaction, but merely causes the whole solution to gel up.

EDIT: Synack - I haven't tried doing this after removing the color coating, but I think that by scraping the coating off you will disturb the outer later of the pill, causing loose particles from the pill to become released in the water, thereby mixing with the water, activating the anti-abuse system and gelling up. Perhaps if you're really concerned about the color coating, you could place the pill in the water as-is, and then after a few minutes (with a little swishing around) once the coating has dissolved you could dump the solution and replace the water, since I doubt that any measurable amount of oxymorphone will have been released in those few minutes. That way you can remove the coating without distrurbing the outer layer of the pill like you would if you scraped the coating off.

[deathmau5]

See my tutorial for injection Opana ER.

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=28912

[kill]

i should be getting a bunch of the 40's soon...i'm gonna try all three of these methods...

first one i'm gonna setup is the 12/24 hour extraction it really seems like in my mind that this would be the best way to do it..i'm not worried about bacteria because i plan on using .22 micron wheel filters..anything bacteria related should get filtered out along with 99.9% of the filler shit from the pill...

i have a feeling that this is whats going to work the best..and i can do a 10 pill batch and can use a wheel filter and bacteriostatic water to preserve it for 28 days while it gets used..

i know the day i get them i'm going to try the other 2 methods...the one with teh isopropyl alchohol and hte other one with the methanol....it seems like the methanol should work better as claimed by the poster...what i don't want to have to do is wash the thing 5 times with IPA...thats just stupid i'd rather do 2 washes with methanol and evap that and then use bacteriostatic water on the film and then filter it through a wheel filter... i might just use this method or the ipa method on a pill or two just so i can get high until the 12 hour extraction is done with the rest of the pills... hopefully i'll be able to get between 400mg and 600mg of oxymorphone...in IV doses between 10mg and 20mg thats just plain absurd for hte price i'm paying...and i've never been able to get these before so i'm so psyched it's not funny especially because i know it's 100% definite this is so fucking sick.

[NY Hippie]

A little discovery I stumbled upon- by using 2 or 3 parts water to 1 part vodka (40% ABV) I've found that the extraction moves along a bit faster.

It burns a little bit when shooting it up, but it takes a couple of seconds before the burn hits so as long as you don't go too slow you'll be pulling out by the time it starts to burn, and the burn really isn't bad at all (I've even heard of people shooting pure vodka when they're dope sick).

The alcohol also adds to the rush, and I'm sure it helps prevent bacteria from forming (although I do my extractions in a closed pill bottle).

The higher the alcohol content the better, with a higher alcohol content there are less impurities by percentage, and since you'll need to use a smaller quantity of the alcohol when using a higher proof there will also be less impurities by volume. Also, stay away from liquor that isn't clear, dark liquor=more impurities.


EDIT: Keep in mind, that when doing this extraction, you don't have to wait the full 12-24 hours. If you want you can collect the liquid after 6 hours or however long you want (based on how much of the oxymorphone you want) and shoot that up, and then just add more liquid to the container that the pill is in and continue the extraction. I also only use abour 2 CCs of water for my extraction and found that to work fine. You can always add more liquid and let the pill sit longer if you feel that you could have gotten more out of it.

[NY Hippie]

EDIT 2: I was a little out of it before and I meant to say to use 3 or 4 parts water to 1 part vodka (40% ABV). (You should probably start out with more water your first time and see how it feels)

Although like I said, the higher the alcohol content, the better, just be certain to scale down the volume of liquor used in proportion to the percentage of alcohol, because if you accidently fix a shot that's composed of 1/4 of 191-proof liquor, it's going to burn like hell. Even with my 3 or 4 parts water to 1 part vodka (at 40% ABV) you may find that you need to use more water because I've gotten used to the slight discomfort of the alcohol burn.

And I just want to take this time to thank Synack again for posting this tutorial, without which I would be forced to take my meds as they were prescribed, haha.