Anyone know of any good ways to get a hydro script filled early at wal mart

[JayTrizzle]

I mean early. Like it's been 12 days, and I'm fucking out. I didn't even take all of them damnit. Women were involved, all I'm gonna say, you know me. Anyway, these fools fill my xanax whenever the fuck I want them filled, but for some reason they have a problem filling a drug that's I believe the same schedule (could be wrong, alprazolam could be a schedule IV). What in the hell? Should I just hit up my sketchy ass doc and be like look dude I need these filled early? I'm also fairly certain that it's not illegal for the pharmacist to fill a script early, I read a federal law somewhere that just says you can have a max of five refills on a sched III and its up to your pharmacist to decide when to fill them. Seeing as how they gave me crap for getting it filled in the first place, this may be the only route to go on I think. Plus I called on saturday and tried to get them filled, no dice, lady said middle of next week, meaning middle of THIS week. Just sucks I don't do well in class without them and everyone is out illicitly. Meh. I'm gonna tell them I'm going on vacation and I need them because i won't be here. I don't think I accidentally flushed ALL of them is going to work. Although that may work on my doc. I don't know. Un-flamed suggestions would be great, thanks guys.

[Thai_Stick]

Pharmacists are allowed to do early fills (is it 7 days? This is just a recalled number so good chance it's wrong) on CIII but trying to refill a 30 day script for any narcotic after 12 days is really asking for someone to look closer at your records. I say don't mess with a good thing. If you push it this time and do get your script early and get away with it, you won't next time.

I would put money on the fact that the pharm will notify your doctor of activity like this. And because of this, I think the best decision here under the pretense that you NEED to have this filled, would be to go directly to the doctor. Get a new script, lie, tell the truth, but get a new script. Fill it at a different pharmacy out of pocket. Either way your doctor will almost certainly find out, but this way the chances of big brother DEA peaking in are reduced.

The smartest thing would be to wait and get your script refilled at the normal time, but we all understand that isn't always the option. Just remember that they have no problem telling you to find someone else to write your scripts


Whats everyone else think?

[DarthStoner]

I'm not a CP patient, nor have I ever had any medication (the abusable kind) prescribed to me on a prolonged basis... well, I guess suboxone, but I never was hard up to get em filled early.

However, one guy that I know who is real fucked up gets scripted morphine and oxy each month. This dude lives on the street, has serious medical problems, and is a BIG TIME crackhead. He supports his crackish ways mostly by selling off his "meds," usually for real cheap too - especially when he's hard up for some rock.

He's also a liar and a cheat, so he's got no problems ripping someone off, or lying to a doc to get his shit early. What he has done on occasion is told the doc that he was going on a trip for a few weeks, and the doc has given him shit early to hold him over.

He said that it's called a "vacation" script or something like that - I haven't dealt with this guy for a while, so I can't remember exactly what he said it was called, but do know for a fact that he has found ways to get his meds early.

His usual script is for 200mg morphines and 30mg IR oxys, but for the vacation script he was given some 15mg oxys - I can't remember if he got any morphs for that visit. It was kinda weird that that's what they gave him, but being that I took his stinky bum ass to the doc (which reeked up my car for a few days and forced me to get some heavy duty, anti-bacterial car air freshener) I know he actually pulled it off.

However, he used his excuses too many times, and the doc eventually stopped allowing him to get his meds early - I mean, the guy would have an excuse almost every month... he got robbed cause he lives on the street, he has to see his kid on the mainland cause he's got cancer, you get the drift.

Eventually, when this guy actually had a legit excuse for needing more meds - he got beat over the head with a baseball bat and was robbed (for real) - the doc refused to give him shit... IMO he's lucky that the doc put up with his excuses for that long, and that he still gives him his normal script.

My point is, it is possible to get your shit early - especially for hydrocodone, since this dude did it many times and he gets oxy/morph - but you should really use these excuses sparingly... not at all if possible. I don't think most docs would put up with the shit that this guy has put him through - I think he feels sorry for him cause he knows the guy is a crackhead, lives on the street, and is terminally ill- so I wouldn't push your luck with your doc.

Do it if you absolutely must, but if your tolerance isn't too high, it might be a better idea to just tough it out for the next few days using some xanax or something... or you could just try and find another opiate to keep you good, Im sure if ya looked you could find something. Good luck in whatever you decide to do, sorry I couldn't help more.

[antifox]

Norcos are schedule III and xanax is schedule IV.

DO NOT ASK to have your shit filled that early. Schedule III narcotics cannot be filled earlier than the doctor specifies, and if you try it then you are asking to get your script lost and possible legal consequences of trying to deceive a pharmacist for the purpose of diverting narcotics.

He's also a liar and a cheat, so he's got no problems ripping someone off, or lying to a doc to get his shit early. What he has done on occasion is told the doc that he was going on a trip for a few weeks, and the doc has given him shit early to hold him over.

He said that it's called a "vacation" script or something like that - I haven't dealt with this guy for a while, so I can't remember exactly what he said it was called, but do know for a fact that he has found ways to get his meds early.

That's a dumbass doctor. If you ever want this done with any narcotic you almost ALWAYS have to bring the medication in and have them count it. I know a kid when we were sixteen who got bused for trying to get his oxy 20's filled eleven days early and when they told him to bring the bottle in he said he "forgot it" and just thought they wanted the bottle for reference. needles to say his mom got called and his script was not written by any doctor until he was 18 so he suffered with two herniated disks for a little bit less than two years. He actually got scripted 30mg codeine with APAP three times a day after six months, and was given five 7.5/750 hydro's for breakthrough pain after eighteen months.

Doctors don't fuck around with this type of shit. Trying to deceive them ONCE they have prescribed you pain medication really pisses them off. They see people every month trying to persuade a doctor into getting them narcotics, and this is entirely expected. But- once you trick them after they have scripted you a couple times, it makes them feel dumb, inadequate, or irresponsible.

Don't lose something good because you fucked up this month.

[upstate_007]

I dunno Jay. Walmart has always been real fuckerish with me about filling pain meds early. Sometimes they say it's because of insurance. Then I say "I'll pay cash". They then say it's state regulations.

Sometimes they will fill up to a week early. Sometimes I have to wait the full 30 days. Depends on the pharmacist and what kind of mood they are in.

[DarthStoner]

That's a dumbass doctor. If you ever want this done with any narcotic you almost ALWAYS have to bring the medication in and have them count it. I know a kid when we were sixteen who got bused for trying to get his oxy 20's filled eleven days early and when they told him to bring the bottle in he said he "forgot it" and just thought they wanted the bottle for reference. needles to say his mom got called and his script was not written by any doctor until he was 18 so he suffered with two herniated disks for a little bit less than two years. He actually got scripted 30mg codeine with APAP three times a day after six months, and was given five 7.5/750 hydro's for breakthrough pain after eighteen months.


I'm pretty sure I've heard of other cases where people were given additional meds or an early script if they weren't gonna be around for their normal refill. Haven't witnessed it though, so i could be mistaken.

I agree, it's not a bright idea to be asking for your meds early - makes ya look like a dope fiend, and unless you're Michael Jackson, the docs probably won't wanna play along - but if you're gonna try something anyway, it's better than saying that you flushed em all down the toilet... don't care how shady your doc is:D.

But for hydros, if you're that desperate can't you use an online pharm or find some sort of substitute for a few days... I can understand that you've got a life to live and it's a bitch to be sick, but you'll really risk fucking up your script if your doc gets the slightest idea that you're using more for recreation than pain, and you really don't want that thought to ever cross his/her mind.

I'd advise trying like hell to find an alternate way of getting your pills (don't ask the doc that prescribes em to ya), or finding a different opiate (pods maybe?) to hold you over... At worst, ask for some time off work and just suck it up - I know, easier said than done, but ya gotta look at the big picture.

[Duckfeet]

That's a good excuse: beats "My chihuahua swallowed the pill bottle!" Hahahaha. Sorry. There's no way, not with such a known and popular street opiate.

I mean early. Like it's been 12 days, and I'm fucking out. I didn't even take all of them damnit. Women were involved, all I'm gonna say,
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[jo-jo]

I've been able to fill early if I paid cash and didn't go through my insurance but that's only when the script didn't have a specific date on it.

[JayTrizzle]

Guess what. You were all wrong lol. Like I said, they fill my xanax early, and like i said, this script is from that shady cat in vegas I had to go see (who btw was like, TRYING to get me to take a script for oxy, and i quote "There are certain sustained release medications that we could try, but I have to send you a hard copy script every month, so I charge a 60 dollar a month fee on schedule II narcotic's.") So my doctor finding out...not too worried about that rofl. So yeah, I'm on my way to pick them up right now. I live in a town with just under 20,000 people, that includes an 8000 person college, and there is one wal mart. I'm fairly certain they already know what I'm doing and I went to high school with like five of the techs there lol, i even just talked to one of them to make sure the phone wasnt lying to me. Also, in the midst of my suffering, I totally found a month old bottle of Tussionex waaaaaaaay back in the old man's medicine cabinet, so not only do I get all 120 norco's after 12 days, but I'm already decently well, at least not sick anyway. So there. It all depends on what your particula city has a problem with. The only thing the wal-mart here gets upity about is people trying to buy anything with ephedrine and shady looking/acting people trying to buy rigs. I saw this dude the last time I got my Xanax filled with, I shit you not, a homer simpson tattoo right on the vein and the dude could barely talk and was scratching the shit out of him self asking for 24 gauge rigs (wtf is he shooting with that big of a hole?!??!?). They told him to fuck off promptly. So yeah, I really think it has to do with if you have a history of doing this, which i do, and I told them with my xanax that i get paid once a month and like to pick my scripts up at that time, and by the time i get them a new hard script from each doc, it's usually within two weeks of when I'm supposed to have it any way.


P.S. Glad you liked that duck, rofl, not that I called walmart and said "Hey, I uh, got laid this weekend and the chick just really likes hydros, I need an early fill." rofl. If they were all GUYS I went to school with maybe, lol. I didn't even have to tell them anything, I did email Dr. Shady just in case, and told him i knocked half my script into the sink when I was brushing my teeth (seemed like it could happen, and it actually HAS happened with my xanax, Walgreens in Kansas City apparently not as cool as Wal Mart in the middle of no where).

So yeah. Sorry again for the long paragraphs. I know some of you hate it, and I could give a fuck, lol. Anyway, I just wanted to let you guys know about that law I read, but i can't fucking find it because of course, now that I'm not sick I'm not frantically searching for loopholes. In any case, I found a copy of the federal regulations for prescription drugs, and the law on refills is THAT ANY MEDICATION WITH A SCHEDULE OF III OR IV MAY HAVE UP TO FIVE REFILLS AND CAN BE REFILLED AT ANY TIME DUE TO THE PHARMACISTS DISCRETION. So it's not Johnny Law fuckin up gettin your hydros filled early. It's your pharmacist/pharmacy. My pharmacist is totally cool with me and knows i had surgery back in april, so I don't think he cares. Plus, I'm farily sure they skimmed about fifteen from me last time, because I, ahem, SWIM, sold a set amount of them, and took five, so I should have had 95 left when I got home. I had 80. I think they knew I was gonna be taking them really quick and thats why they skimmed, I couldn't go in there with 80 pills left on a script I got that day, they would either kicked me out or had me arrested or both, lol.


Anyway, so yeah, everything worked out great, and I wanted to make that law aware to you guys, because the seven days thing is for schedule II narcotics, you can only have ONE script called in and they have to get a hard copy from the doc within a certain period of time, and after that you have to have a hard copy of the script and can't get it filled more than a week in advanced, and some places make you you wait until three days in advance. I think that's where we were getting messed up, all you CP patients on here have real drugs, lol, I have hydros. I COULD have real drugs now with this doc, but like I said in the "This Sounds Shady" post, I don't want them. I'm going to school, getting laid and doing well and I don't want to fuck that up, and I know with a whole bottle of 80's I'll either A. Flunk Out, B. Lose My Vagina, C. Die, or D. All of the above. I'd...SWIM....could make a killing though. Anyway I'm off to the procure tickets to the land of nod, be back shortly to discuss. Peace, junkies.

[JayTrizzle]

AAARRRRGHHHHHH Why the fuck would they fill it, show me the bottle, and then tell me i can't have them for four days unless they get a hold of my doc. I'm aggravated. I mean four days is still two weeks early, but goddamnit why would they tell me it's ready and then give me grief. I hate the pharmacy.

[jo-jo]

AAARRRRGHHHHHH Why the fuck would they fill it, show me the bottle, and then tell me i can't have them for four days unless they get a hold of my doc. I'm aggravated. I mean four days is still two weeks early, but goddamnit why would they tell me it's ready and then give me grief. I hate the pharmacy.

:sandm: Grrrrr...that kind of shit pisses me off! Sorry you're dealing with such bastards!

[Duckfeet]

Yeah: I guess it can happen, and I know I've tried...but I also know that pharmacists aren't idiots, and if they/ve time and inclination, they call doc, and my docs always get pissed, since I waste a lot of their time convincing them I'm *not* an addict, and then, well, filling even hydro scripts early is a dead giveaway...glad it worked out for you, but I wouldn't count on it continuing...I've had'em check here in socal--for norcos--a few days early, and doc got pissed, and canceled my monthly takehomes, until I went in and convinced him--once again--I was not what he thought I was...that "pharmacist" discretion can work both ways...nothing is guaranteed...

[the0ne]

Damn it's been a while wince I've logged into opiophile. I hate to say it jay, but it seems like a little bit of bad karma thrown at you from the opiate gods for laughing at others who said you probably shouldn't try to fill it early or that you probably won't get it. Just my two cents but back on topic.
Other members have asked and I've told them to use the automated telephone system if one is available. Call around noon, which is the busiest times for them. Usually they will just check on refills remaining and fill it. When you get there and I they reject you just tell them you spoke with someone after you called and they said I was okay. I've never had a problem because I have a good relationship with my pharmacist which is worth its weight in gold. You just don't want to labeled as an earlier filler/abuser then you won't ever get anything early and you should at that point change pharmacies.

[antifox]

I'm pretty sure I've heard of other cases where people were given additional meds or an early script if they weren't gonna be around for their normal refill. Haven't witnessed it though, so i could be mistaken.


Yes. I have been given an extra 90 80mg oxys and 30 30mg roxi's when I went on vacation plus 6x 100mic fentanyl patches incase I ran into any issues with plane delays and I would have at least 2 patch switches (4 days) worth of travel coverage.

Every single time I have done that the doctors have had no problem doing it. But, every single time the doctors have wanted to count the pills and make sure what' suppose to be there is.

I am sure there have been mistakes and you can sway someone into getting an early refill, but the chances are NOT very good, and the risk is NOT worth losing your script, because you can't just go to any new doctor and get your script fixed.

DON'T DO IT. The chances that pharmacist with fuck up is not very high.


THAT ANY MEDICATION WITH A SCHEDULE OF III OR IV MAY HAVE UP TO FIVE REFILLS AND CAN BE REFILLED AT ANY TIME DUE TO THE PHARMACISTS DISCRETION.

While this may be true, MANY states have passed laws that require schedule III and II narcotics to have a date for refill on them, and many times if it doesn't you have to go to your doctor to get the OK.

Also, benzos are really easy to get filled whenever you need them. They have a number of refills and almost never a date specified.


Also, the thing about being filled five times could be a state law or you could be mixing it up with that after getting your script filled five times for schedule III narcotics you have to see your doctor in person. I know in the state that I live schedule III narcotics are dated and you can fill 24 hours early, and if you need more early or are going out of town or they get stolen or lost or some shit, then you HAVE to get a note from your doctor before the pharmacist can fill.

Also, many pharmacies are in a computer network so that if you get your norcos filled at one pharmacy and then take them to another place 15 days later it shows up in the system. Also note it does not HAVE to be a 30 day refill. When I was getting scripted roxi's only I went every fifteen days to get my 180 pills. With schedule II narcotics you cannot have refills or have MORE than a 30 day supply except under very strict conditions. You can easily get it filled every week or every two weeks or whenever you and your doctor agree on it. With schedule III narcotics in ANY state you have to talk to your doctor on the PHONE or IN person every three months before you get your script refilled, BUT you can have five refills worth and then you have to see the doctor.

Realize all these laws are federal since we are talking about prescriptions. States just make the laws more tight or slightly easier. IE: you can fill your pills 24 hours early because people have busy schedules, but NOT you can get a refill for schedule II narcotics without seeing the doctor.

Your script most likely does not have a date stamp on when it should/can/has to be refilled and that's why it was allowed. Regardless, be careful because there are redlights in the system for people who refill narcotics more than every thirty days. This doesn't mean anything bad, it's just a redlight to let the pharmacists know who is who and why. They usually call your doctor if it happens more than once in a six month/five refill period, and other times they don't because it's in the computer when that red light goes off. I can't tell you how many times my doctor got called with the fifteen day. I also had to go pick up the script every 15 days. The doctor could NOT call it in.

Some states, under federal permission allow doctors to call in a weekends worth of schedule II narcotics for patients who fall with certain guidelines. 95% of the time you just have to go to the ER and have them talk to your doctor.


I have been a CP patient for a little over nine years. I've been through the loop and seen the laws change in 2002ish when that ignorant kids OD'd from online scripts and they changed all these laws. Before that shit was so much easier, and it's made CP patients have way more hassle and trouble than stop drug addicts: Just like with any law- marijuana-hand gun laws-assault rifle laws-psychedelics as medicine-medical marijuana- opiate maintenance laws- and all other drugs laws.

[Papa Verine]

So Jay, how much of that Tussionex do you have left? I hope you find something to hold you over for the 4 days man. Good luck.

[JayTrizzle]

Nah it ended up working out, but my just like the wise sage Duckfeet said, my doc is pissed at me now, and I can't get any more scripts filled earlier than exactly 30 days, so I HAVE to be careful now. But I can get them today, so I just gotta make them last and probably not have SWIM sell any, which sucks because I really wanted to go see my girl and that's my main source of income at the moment. He's pissed to the point that he's checking my med records from wal mart, which i don't care about because I've never doctor shopped, everything I've gotten filled has been from the ER, my PCP, or my surgeons. He does have an order on me at wal mart now that says if I come in with a script from another doctor that they have to call him and he'll drop me from care, which i don't care about, it's like 80 dollars a visit for three months worth. Guess it's just time to be responsible now.

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, I know I fucked mine all up, by trying to often to get it "just a little early," as up until then, he was giving me morphine sulfate and norcos without batting an eyelash...but I was strung out then on H anyway, so mostly I just saved it all...but I'd still run out, as I'd go thru a month's supply in a few days...oh well, sounds like this one worked out, tho, and yeah, just be cautious about pushing it too hard: everything's changing in this area, and not in our favor, either, with more and more docs and pharmacists under DEA scrutiny...glad you missed a bullet tho...

[JayTrizzle]

Yeah, that's basically what he told me, he doesn't like ok'ing scripts early because it raises red flags and gets him scrutinized. I'm actually very surprised with this guy, I mean most consult docs are pretty, you know, all for money and could give a fuck, but this guy actually cares about my health. He made me sign a pain contract, i have to keep a pain journal, he's making me count my pills every week now (not that I can't lie but I have to know how many I should have), and like I said he's checking out my prior scripts. He even assumed that the company I went through had me do a UA, and I really hope he doesn't ask me to do one, i mean all that will be there is bud other than the hydrocodone, but still, he could get mad at me for that I suppose. He even tried to get me to quit smoking, lol. I really like this doc he's just really hard to get a hold of sometimes and that gets a little aggravating, but I don't want to screw this up, since he basically told me my consult company was ripping me off and severed ties with them because of me. They were charging me outlandish prices, like any online consult service does, and he only charges me for a doctors visit, and only when I need refills. I have to see him once a year for a check up, and he literally said that the consult companies are "mercenaries, they hold people hostage with their pain and extort everything they can just so you can get what you need." That I liked.

[cactus31]

I can absolutely vouch for JayTrizzle's 'pharmacist's discretion' statement on the first page; thank God for decent pharmacists who will flex this muscle, too. For me, working out of town on big fiber-optic projects and a LONG way from a pharmacy [let alone civilization], pretty much required me to be able to get a month and a half of pills at a whack. And hell, they never even calle dthe doc's office to ask permission, either.

Typically, I have a doctor's visit every four months. I leave the doc's office with a [paper] script with 3 refills on it [so 4 fills total]. Luckily, I've got a pharmacy that's of the more 'mom-and-pop' variety; a small chain store/pharmacy that usually have the same customers on a routine basis and get to know you by your first name.

They've let me fill 3 months worth of scripts [720 tabs total!!] within about a month and a half. 'Course, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, especially if they're even remotely 'dependant' on their tabs...I had to wait for the required amount of time to tick by until I could fill again after all the refills were used up!

Damnit...that was a long wait -and co-incidently - it's also pretty much the sole reason that I'm now a fucking HEROIN addict instead of a pill-popper. But whatever.

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So, to the point: [not directed at anybody in particular, just anybody in a similar sitch]

You shouldn't have any prob getting them to okay an early fill!

Especially if you don't make a habit of it. Or if you've never even tried to get an early refill before...in that case, you're almost guaranteed success. There are a million reasons to 'need' an early fill; including travel for work, family function/death in the family, vacation, etc.

Just don't play the lost/stolen/'dog-ate-them' card unless you're truly, truly hurting for a fix. And that usually only works ONCE anyway...and sometimes flags your ass for perhaps some closer scrutiny.

Fucking doctors...so nosy sometimes :p

Good luck!

[Vico-Dan]

Excuse me for bumping a month-old thread, but for the future (I know this doesn't help now), but I would keep some Poppy Pods on hand.

You can also order Pods and/or Tramadol overnight.

Tramadol kinda sucks, but it's better than nothing and there are places that will overnight them to you as long as you order by as late as 2:00 PM EST that day and you will have them the next day by 10:00 AM

I've done both (Had Pods and/or Trams overnighted) and it has saved my ass many times.

I've even had Kratom overnighted to me before.

Just listing some options in that they might save someone some misery in the future.

BTW, I've tried to get early fills with the "vacation" story before and the pharm wanted me to bring in my bottle and show that I still have pills from my first script remaining, so be aware that they might call you out on it if you try it.

And if you claim they were stolen, they will want a police report.

They've heard every story in the book and then some when it comes to narcotics.