Weird question

[Swellin]

I got a hypothetical for you all you users say a friend of yours told you he had a pound of h and wants you to help him sell it after he gets out what would you do? would you even consider this?

[poonwhalla]

I would think about it real hard, especially if you are hypothetically thinking of taking it over borders. I would be careful with leaving a trail of bread crumbs (like this thread) too. If it were me I would think about it and probably not go through with it. I also wouldn't make it too far with a fucking pound of heroin.

[Swellin]

Oh yea swim was also wondering how much a pound of down is worth on the street?

[Morphus]

I know that smack usually commands a much higher price than other street drugs, in my part of the country, right now a kilo of coke sells for around 27,000, a kilo of meth for 30,000. These prices were quoted by a dude I know who seems to have some inside info, but on a wholesale level in my state it seems the meth people and the coke people are on the same page but the smack people are kind of out of the loop. I have never heard any wholesale prices of tar, or if when you buy a kilo of tar it's of much higher quality and then cut to shit by the ounce man, I guess it probably is, and perhaps it's because it can be cut so much that the wholesale price is higher. Drugs like meth and coke are cut too, of course, but I think people expect smack to be cut mcuh more proportionally than those others. Dunno, just speculation on my part.

[Duckfeet]

It's a hard business, and very dangerous: if it's a legit proposal, and not just convict scheaming and dreaming--which it sounds like, to be honest--I'd figure if my friend was that savvy, he would be doing it himself, rather than doing, well, time is what it sounds like. I've heard these kinds of things so many times, never once seen them actually come to pass...

And anyway: Murder really does to be more and more likely, the larger the quantity, and tho junkies often think and plot and plan this kind of thing, I've never met anyone who actually used dope, and wasn't raised in a serious 'dealer' environment to pull this off...people kill for a gram: for a pound? I would have considered it myself, or at least a robbery, which often ends this way: I held a gun to a columbian girl's head for two ounces of cocaine...and had to leave town, when her cousins came down from NY...people can tell immediately if you have backup and bodyguards and are connected, or not...you won't be able to trust anybody, believe me, *nobody,*: not on here, not in real life, and since we aren't usually the best at keeping our mouths shut, anyway, this would end in disaster...(if it really happened). I'd find other pursuits.

[Ickyuck]

Bad news. I'd stay clear away, this reeks of multiple ways you can get in trouble's wrath.

[SeVeN]

I got a hypothetical for you all you users say a friend of yours told you he had a pound of h and wants you to help him sell it after he gets out what would you do? would you even consider this?

Oh yea swim was also wondering how much a pound of down is worth on the street?

Dude??!..... Are you for real?

No, there is no way...........

[losangeleslifer]

It's a hard business, and very dangerous: if it's a legit proposal, and not just convict scheaming and dreaming--which it sounds like, to be honest--I'd figure if my friend was that savvy, he would be doing it himself, rather than doing, well, time is what it sounds like. I've heard these kinds of things so many times, never once seen them actually come to pass...

And anyway: Murder really does to be more and more likely, the larger the quantity, and tho junkies often think and plot and plan this kind of thing, I've never met anyone who actually used dope, and wasn't raised in a serious 'dealer' environment to pull this off...people kill for a gram: for a pound? I would have considered it myself, or at least a robbery, which often ends this way: I held a gun to a columbian girl's head for two ounces of cocaine...and had to leave town, when her cousins came down from NY...people can tell immediately if you have backup and bodyguards and are connected, or not...you won't be able to trust anybody, believe me, *nobody,*: not on here, not in real life, and since we aren't usually the best at keeping our mouths shut, anyway, this would end in disaster...(if it really happened). I'd find other pursuits.

As usual.

Clear, consice and real as to be, real advice.

Consider it.

[kellyblue]

"After he gets out" of where? THAT would be my first question... and then, no matter the answer- No No HELLLLLL NOOOOO!

[Chipper]

I'm def. not cut out for it. Far too much temptation with all that gear around. Far too risky.

Handling other's credit is the real bitch. Adopting a no credit policy but then having to turn away desperate customers in withdrawl would be too hard.

However, if I were rich, I wouldn't mind seeking out the "sick" and fixing 'em up! Yeah, that'd be cool.

[OverDriven]

Stupid idea. Plus, it sounds like he's in jail, right? He might be setting you up. Stay the fuck away. And just so you know, people who are cut out for that kind of life don't post about it on internet forums. You obviously aren't someone who should get into this.

[duck]

Stupid idea. Plus, it sounds like he's in jail, right? He might be setting you up. Stay the fuck away. And just so you know, people who are cut out for that kind of life don't post about it on internet forums. You obviously aren't someone who should get into this.

+1

[antifox]

SWIM has been in your exact situation three times and twice he went through with it. I doubt it's a set up, because those type of setups only happen on the very high level, and it's not DEA set up because it's not a key.

SWIM went through it with 2/3 times except it was half a 10key of cocaine. Ounces were the minimum and seventeen the max. This was to avoid, at the time, MMS/sentencing guideline of half kilo. It wasn't cut, it was 85%-90% pure according to the two kits we used plus the thermometer set up that you see in the movies to estimate vaporization point said it was 92% but I think it was a little bit less. It was uncut so it was gone in forty days exactly (pretty fitting EH?!). After all of it swim made $3500 on each key so it totalled to $17,000 because SWIM spent $500 on scale and glassware for vape test. Was it worth it? At the time I thought I was the sickest motherfucker ever, and that $17,000 eventually got spent on house goodies and drugs. The money was spent well and didn't get blown on SHIT imo.

The second time it was from SWIM knew a little bit better who was getting out three years early of a eight year sentence for distrubtion of MDMA in excess of 10,000 but less than 50,000. This time swim did it for the drug money and the stuff in question was targeted at the rave scene. 10 bibles of LSD, 1000 vials of ketamine, 2000 MDMA pills, four ounces of cocaine, and a kilo of mushrooms. It was all gone in three raves in eleven days. Swim made $10,000 exactly since it was just him and someoe else doing all the dirty work, and on the last day SWIN's partner got busted for possession of K. It was at a rave so he just got a citation for felony apperance in court because california is awesome that way. $7500 of that money went to opiates and another $2500 for SWIN's fiance's engagement ring.


The third time it was this dude also coming out for drugs and it was just odd. He hadn't talked to the guy in almost a year. Something about the situation just made him uneasy and he politely said no thanks. One month later the guy got pinched with ten ounce of cocaine along with his two dumb partners and 99 plants growing indoors. The marijuana got dropped because one was a caregiver for the others and they were medical (got to love CA:P). They got nine years with five years HAVE to be served.


ANYWAYS, that's one of my several dumbass youth drug stories. Now a days i stay away from shit like that. I have 3-5 people I buy shit from, grow my own weed legally, and my DOC is legally prescribed. By the way those stories have nothing to do with me. I am just letting you know this stuff because it's probably similar to how that guy matured. Once you come that close to doing a five year sentence, have a fiance, have a house, a good job going, thinking of kids, and business investements and opportunities are going well- you realize how fast the fucking evil government can decide the rest of your life and destroy everything you have because of one bad decision that THEY decided is bad. It makes me absolutely furious and scared out of my mind how much control the 'war on drugs' has on taken from all of us. It's absolutely frightening and disgusting to have dreams of the sheriff walking me back to my cell form court and seeing my wife and brother and inlaws crying in court because I got three years for some dumbass drug charge.

I am at the point where I no longer need the money, but even just hooking up a friend in desperate need can destroy your life. I think ten times over before I do ANYTHING that could get me remotely in trouble.

Meh, sorry for the rant. You guys probably don't care, but I thought I'd share my one crazy "I can't believe I got away with that" drug story from my youth. I of course have other shit like hiding from cops, driving crazy and getting away from them, hiding shit in crazy places, but even though those were WAY more exciting and adrenline filled they won't even compare to the feelings, nightmares, anxiety, and much more from those three "severe" and "immoral" events.

[The_Highwayman]

I can say to stya as far away from this "hypothetical" situatio nas possible for a mulititude of reasons...

First, territory: Do you know what groups, gangs, run the trade in that area, most of these people don't take too kindly on people on their turf, plus word gets around fast, and if they hear that not only your selling but have a hefty inventory ,you might get a visit you don't want

Second, if you plan on cutting the stuff up and selling it by yourself, first see number 1, then I don't know if you use gear, but imagine being sick and knowing some guys who aren;t connected have a huge stash, they could try to rob you...

Third, I won't speak on the obvious legal ramifications

I had a small time where I knew a guy who sold rather benign yet illegal chemicals to mostly friends and he would tell me the constant paranoia and worry were not even worth the 3g's he was making a week, so...

Stay away!!!

[Swellin]

This person says hes not worried about other gangs or connected people for reasons he wont tell me . someone said he has been in jail for a long time, dope is free . Is the other person cut out for this? Probably not but who is their first time? I think he chose this person for that reason and he trusts him as well because of lack of experience he should probably heed the warnings from you guys but its a very tempting offer. Anyways this is all just a crazy dream

[cactus31]

(SNIP!)

...I also wouldn't make it too far with a fucking pound of heroin.




My thoughts, exactly.

[God_Albino]

i wouldn't trust a single person on earth with even a fraction of that claim; i don't know what kinda life you live but it's either someone in legal trouble trying to set you up, but more likely they're trying to make a quick buck off a chump (or someone's trying to make a quick buck off them).

if you and your crowd are the kinda folks that just bump into legitimate weight in a legitimate setting, you wouldn't be making this thread.

[hovadagod]

If you are posting about this you are clearly not cut out for it. Why don't you tell the guy you'll get back to him after you ask an online community what they think.

Selling H is asking for jail time. If you are gonna sell H you better be backed by a gang or some group that will take care of you.

[Eric5989]

I don't think H is even sold in pounds Im pretty sure they move it in kilos which is 2.2 pounds so maybe if he said a half key it'd be more beliveable.

[TigerFan]

Yeah dude totally do it. It will be like the movie "Yes Man" with Jim Carey

[limitless_euphoria]

Danger Will Robinson! Danger!

[mikey5string]

there are 448 grams in a pound. each stamp bag in the NE contains around .1g. so each bundle would be roughly 1g. if bundles went for $60. youd have 448 bundles. lets call it 400. $24,000
now from what i understand weight like youre talking about is cut to about 5x's its volume before hitting the streets. thats if its raw. and if youre getting a pound, it should be pretty pure.

so 5x's 26,000 = $120,000.


now you probably wouldnt be selling bags or bundles with that much weight. youd probably be selling weight. like at least 5g's at a time or more. and youre average junky doesnt buy that much at a time.
so youll be dealing with dealers. and dealers usually have guns. and muscle. a lot more experience and a lot less to lose than you do.

and like people have said here. word on the street travels fast. to junkies, dealers and LE. that much weight WILL get you time and or a bullet in the head. at the very least robbed.

as long as youre prepared to deal with those risks. and you have BALLS. go for it! you could make a LOT of money and take a few years to travel around the world when youre done. :)

also.

when i was in college i used to hag out with a kid who used to sell weed. he ran a pretty tight ship too. one night we were sitting there and there was a knock on the door. the door was opened a crack and about 4 guys, one with a shotgun stormed in and took everything. they knew what they were after. the whole thing took less than a minute. and that was for less than $5000. this kid had a circle of about 5 or 6 people he sold to.

[lotus]

when he gets out would be my Q to pass it over.

[mikey5string]

after thinking about it i think all advice is unnecessary since this is such bullshit.

no offense though.

[TigerFan]

1 lb (tar) H = $36,000 (according to this)

http://www.sacsheriff.com/media/0218_dealer_arrest.cfm

[Morphus]

1 lb (tar) H = $36,000 (according to this)

http://www.sacsheriff.com/media/0218_dealer_arrest.cfm


By their numbers thats $79,200 a key, which is ridiculous. Police are notorious for inflating the values of seized substances, makes em look better ( counting each pot clone/cutting, or seedling as worth a
pound or some other silly amount for instance). If you can get a kilo of coke for @ 30K I would guess a kilo of tar would be 50K. Theres alot of variables of course but as I said in a previous post I think what makes the wholesale price of H so high is that it is accepted that the end product will be cut more so than an equivalent quantity of coke or meth ie: street gram of coke maybe 50-60% pure, meth 60-90%, tar H 10-50%.

[odd]

**snip, snip, snip **

Once you come that close to doing a five year sentence, have a fiance, have a house, a good job going, thinking of kids, and business investements and opportunities are going well- you realize how fast the fucking evil government can decide the rest of your life and destroy everything you have because of one bad decision that THEY decided is bad. It makes me absolutely furious and scared out of my mind how much control the 'war on drugs' has on taken from all of us.

This shit right here. I had a chance (not trying to brag but to give you a sense of what I turned down) to make a guaranteed $50K for one week of some pretty risky shit. I have never had money growing up, have never had more than $7K total saved and will never ever see $50K in my life much less the chance to make that kind of dough in 1 week. I thought about what would happen if I got caught.

The "man" loves to make an example out of you because of the whole "war on drugs" bullshit that we all know about. The whole process of crime and punishment that will last for the rest of your life, plus the sure way to end up in prison for a lengthy amount of time and no guarantee that you will make it out on the original sentence, not get killed or that some type of psychological trauma will happen that will never make you the same again.

Faced with that I chose to be broke, dreamed about what it would be like to have $50 grand but sleep in my own bed with my woman at night and walk the streets a free man.

Totally agree with you.

[RifRaf]

No! I've lived in 2 seperate houses that were raided with far less quantities, in both cases the people involved went to prison for 3 years. Have you been to Prison? It is not fun and not worth the risk what-so-ever.