levorphanol experiences

[johnny27]

Hi guys and gals. I've been searching this site for info about levorphanol, espically ppls experiences with it, type of euphoria, duration, nod and so on. Anyone have any other info on this chemical? But as mentioned i mainly looking for ppl's expereinces with it and how they would rate it.

Paregoric Kid has made some intresting posts with some info on levorphanol. I would also be very interested in another opiate called ketobemidone, apparently has extreme euphoria and is significantly more addictive than alot of other opiates, and the WD can be fatal. Sound like a very intresting awesome euphoric opiate but has a high price to be paid. How would ketobemidone compare in effects to say a strong opi like herion? Sorry for all the questions, but i find some of the rare unseen opiates very intresting, like the ones mentioned and also diconal iv use

[shaunclo]

The opiates you are referring to are very rare to get your hands on, if you are ever lucky enough to obtain any of these rarities, please let us know how it goes, I am very curious myself

[johnny27]

that'll never happen to me unfourantely :( its a pitty there's not much info on the trip report (not rite name for opiates) or experiences side of things on the net

[Paregoric Kid]

FUCK, I just lost everything I wrote. let me try and write it all over again. FUCK!
ok anyways...
levorphanol is the isomer of dextrorphan which is the metabolite of dextromethorphan. levomethorphan is the isomer of dextromethorphan. levorphanol is allegedly slightly stronger than dilaudid and can last up to 14 hours and usually no less than 8 (whereas hydromorphone is a very short lived high). some sites say 6-8 times stronger than morphine and 3 times stronger than heroin. levomethorphan is probably about as potent as hydrocodone or oxycodone. racemorphan is a 1:1 mix of levorphanol and dextrorphan. it is half as potent as levorphanol alone but due to dextrorphan's NMDA antagonist features it can help with tolerance and to potentiate it.
ketobemidone is very euphoric. it requires it's own antagonist, naloxone or naltrexone will not cut it for a ketobemidone OD. it has NMDA blocking properties. methadone's isomer is a weak NMDA antagonist and pentazocine is an NMDA antagonist in high doses, weird. many people that have tried ketobemidone say it is the most euphoric high they've ever had and would prefer it to heroin. the UN Office for Drug Control said "Ketobemidone has been banned from production and sale in the United States and Canada because of its extremely dangerous addiction properties. Ketobemidone is poten-tially the most dangerous narcotic which has been synthesized up to the present time. Withdrawal symptoms from this material are so intense that they are liable to cause death, according to results found at the Lexington Drug Addiction Research Center." it is available in some european countries.

[johnny27]

Thank you very much paregoric kid. Thats some wicked info you've got there in your all opi-knowledgable brain, thanks for that. The Ketobemidone sounds like the ultimate opiate high. Was it ever available on the black market or from synth labs? sounds like it would become very popular easily because of the high.

[johnny27]

Another opiate thats not common is oxymorphone? or maybe it is, but i've never heard it mentioned much, or anyone's experience with it
Would i be rite in guessing it would be similar effects to hydromorphone?
Anyone care to post up a report on its recreational effects? Thanks

[Paregoric Kid]

I was going to add about that too. it's slightly stronger and more euphoric than hydromorphone. as of now it is only available by injection or by 5mg suppository. trade name is numorphan. Endo Pharmaceuticals expects to have a 20 and 40mg oxymorphone pill approved by the FDA by fall of this year. in the 70s oxymorphone pills were around and a lot of people OD'd on them, allegedly, and so they stopped making them but they're coming back!
other interesting shit in development and slated to be coming to a black market near you soon are:
7 day sufentanil patches
oxymoprhone contin
oxymorphone IR
sublingual fentanyl tabs

[exitwound]

those all interest me greatly, especially since they are all excellent for chronic pain applications.....

[johnny27]

very intresting info you have there paregonic kid. Thanks man, i have a fetish for unusual and uncommon opiates. I'm just fantazing about the ketobemidone, would love to experince the soaring high, but its never gonna happen for me, it would be as rare as hen's teeth in the UK.
How does the ketobemidone compare in effects to DiAcetylMorphine? thanks

[Paregoric Kid]

don't forget levorphanol is very euphoric (and more widely available than ketobemidone;) as well and the fact it lasts up to 14 hours may make it a better drug than ketobemidone, in my opionion anyways.
search bluelight for user reviews of ketobemidone. you'll see phrases like "most euphoric high ever" and "better than heroin" used more than a few times.
ketobemidone easily penetrates the BBB and enters the brain very fast so it has a magnificent rush.
I've read swallowed it is twice as strong as morphine and shot it's 5 times stronger. however one study said it is about analgesically equivalent to morphine. analgesia and euphoria are different though and the fact that ketobemidone effects more than just the opioid system may have something to do with it.
places I've read it's available in: Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Estonia. it's trade name is Ketogan.
I just read a study that says the duration of effects is 5-7 hours.
of interest to people on MMT and chronic pain patients on daily high doses of methadone is that ketobemidone is not tested for in UA's (because it's non-existant basically) and because it can penetrate methadones "blocking" effect (aka receptor saturation) [which usually only happens to people taking daily amounts of methadone greater than about 70mg]. MMT patients shoot these pills for that reason.
there are even stronger analogs of ketobemidone that have been patented. synthesized this would make an amazing black market product.

there is some more info I'll add later. hope this answers some of your questions.

[johnny27]

Thank you very much, you really know your stuff with opiates, they are amzing drugs. I'll start abit of research like you suggested. I intend to find lots of expereince's from ppl using they two drugs, and compare them with other opiates. Cheers