Drug Testing Forum For All You Opiophiles

[bi11i]

I thought it would probably be a good idea to put up a forum relating to drug testing for all of you who have to suffer through those pre-employment drug-screens. Since this can be an opiophile's worst nightmare, we may as well provide a forum for the discussion of the testing process.

Have at it!

[nomads]

I am wondering what people's experience's are for pre employment screening when taking Suboxone (buprenorphine/naloxone).

I it takes about 11 days to clear your system according to the company's hotline.

They also said it can show up as a false positive test for opiates using the dip stick method. When it is sent for GC analysis it doesn't show up as an opiate unless they are specifically testing for buprenorphine.

Has anyone run into trouble with a drug test for a new job relating to Suboxone?

[Opiyum]

Great idea Bi11i.

Mr. Nomad I think you would want to post such a question in the forum that Bi11i just created. The one that he just mentioned in this thread.
In an attempt to answer your question though all I can say is that it's a drug that is prescribed to you. Therefore if you turn up positive all you need to do is show your employer the prescription.
It's the same thing if you tested positive for Oxycontin but were prescribed it for some sort of condition.
Bupe doesn't show up in your standard drug test anyway. They would have to test for it specifically and the cost would not be worth it. Especially since it's not something that is abused by many people anyway.

[nomads]

Thanks Opium

I thought this was the forum just created by Bi11i.

The job I am speaking of is in the pharmaceutical industry, and it's almost like going to work for the police without a lie detector test.

They can turn you down if they think the condition you are being treated for could interfere with the job.

Therefore, I didn't want to disclose that I am on it if I didn't have to. I do have a prescription for hydrocodone if it showed up as a general opiate though.

Nomad

[surdali124]

i have to take a saliva drug screen tomorow how long does heroin stay in your saliva ive heard only like 6 to 8 hours

[flipside]

WOW I forgot all about this thread forum. Got lots of moving and merging to do.
Thanks Surdali for bumping this.

Sorry I cannot answer your particular ?? Though I'm sure someone will be along soon to help out.

[dirtdog]

What does pre employment drug screening test for?
MJ of course, norcos? Adderall? what else otherthan your norm "hard drugs" (heroin, meth, coke)

[Bishop]

A standard or typical pre employment drug screen is going to test for yes, marijuana, heroin, meth and cocaine and generally that's it. Norcos no, they would not show on this type of standard test. But, you never know, no garuntees.

My dog.

[waggz]

I currently use erowid for testing information. hope this will help

http://erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info1.shtml#what

[jonny-5]

i think saliva can only test back 3 days.

[OCfenatiq]

1. Will H show up on my drug screen based on my situation???
{Anyone with a CDL could help the most possibly or who works with this in their line of work, thanks...}

Situation: So basically the last bit of H I had was Sunday night around 10:30 (about 2/3 of a quarter gram sack). I know this can vary a lot since no one know exactly how much it was stepped on, but I can say this: I am on the east coast (so generally brown powder) but this was from a brown rock(which if smushed in the bag just crushes to powder), and is pretty much as good as it gets here as far as my knowledge goes; so it was some GOOD JUNK!!
Now the test is for getting a CDL license so not exactly sure what type of test (I assume and hope urine). The test (screen) is tomorrow (Tuesday) at 2pm...

Now I do have common knowledge on the subject since I get biweekly screens at the methadone clinic, but those seem easy to pass (and I honestly think they don't even test them all the time).
2. I know that they usually can only detect the H for 24hrs and morphine for the second 24hrs I think {on that note: will they question me if morphine shows up for a CDL license test??, and if so can I show a script for methadone or something and that get me by?? (don't think I am ignorant because I ask this, I know methadone will not show morphine but can I fool them with that script or some other such as percs or anything)}
If the screen is anything like the ones at the clinic then should be no problem, however this is more important than any methadone screen so this I would really appreciate some REAL info here... Thanks in advance...

OC

[handsome rob]

The standard five-point pre-employment screen tests for: Amphetamines including ecstacy, marijuana, coke, opiates that your body converts to morphine (codeine, morphine, heroin), and PCP. I'm not sure why PCP is on there instead of say ANYTHING ELSE such as benzos or other widely abused opiates even. Luckily this test wont show thebaine derivatives (hydro, bupe, oxy, etc.) synthetics (demerol, methadone, darvon), but I did read a study on erowid which showed that oxycodone in larger amounts can cause trace amounts of morphine to found. If you're taking a ten-point test, it is usually custom made for what the employer wants but these are much more expensive depending on the tests and are used more for jobs in health care. If you're applying at a hospital they will use a quick type of mass spectrometry and will tell you if you had prozac to table salt last night. Those suck, I was arrested once and they took me to the hospital, ten minutes later they told me exactly what was in my system, down to what two benzos I was taking, it was a little spooky.

[insuffilation station]

One big problem with these drug testing facilities is they will not give you the opportunity to disclose what you are taking before - they say "We're only conducting the test, we dont need to know what you're taking because its going to show up anyway" And lo and behold a day later they call your employer and say "your employee has SOMETHING in his urine and we need to run further tests - put it on a gas spectrometer and send it off to fuckin NASA for a conclusive answer. And naturally the company you work for now thinks your the crack head kid and what was once a promising opportunity soon sours because they think they have a liar and a crackhead now working for them. I went and tried to explain what the SOMETHING was that was in my system and my employer wanted to wait for the conclusive results before we ad a sitdown about it, and the results took 8 days to come in. The longest 8 days of my life, and meanwhile my new job went from great and friendly to cold shoulder, no more hellos, yadayada. Now I dont need buddies but I dont need to be treated like a criminal for taking prescription medicines. I'd try to speak with HR before you take the test and level with them - you're taking medicine under a doctors care and there is nothing they can legally do about it is from a prescription. Peoples ignorance makes for a difficult life for the person on subutex or methadone or whatever under a Dr's care. But be proactive rather than reactive like me and you will have better results than I did.

[robothanded]

This doesn't have to do with opiates, but benzos and marijuana.. You may or may not know of it, but it's worked for me many times..

http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/testing/testing_info11.shtml

visine caused false negatives in both benzo and marijuana EMIT drug screens.

"The ingredients of Visine responsible for the blocking of the THC test are
given as benzalkonium chloride (a preservative) and the borate buffer."