View Full Version : Tramadol best as a potentiator?
resorcinol
08-25-2009, 06:55 PM
I'll judge this question tonight, as I'll be getting a glow for the first time in awhile. Tramadol + carisoprodol + methylphenidate + fentanyl will be tested.
tramadol: 200 mg
carisoprodol: 350 mg
methylphenidate: 20 mg
fentanyl: 12 mcg/hr patch cheeked
I've only mixed tramadol with pods in the past and I remember it being really good ... so we'll see how it is with fent. The other drugs I've combined with fent many many times before, so I already know how I react to that.
resorcinol
08-25-2009, 07:37 PM
It's been 40 minutes since ingestion and placement of patch in my mouth against the cheek.
I'm DEFINITELY starting to rapidly come up now (it takes awhile to kick in, especially the stuff I took orally because I ate dinner not too long ago). I've gotta say, judging from the come-up, it ALREADY feels stronger than the combo would normally feel without the tramadol. I feel like I'm coming up harder and faster than without tramadol. It's also potentiating the methylphenidate I believe in addition to the fentanyl which makes sense because tram also inhibits monoamine reuptake.
I'll update again when I'm fully up and reach the plateau for the verdict, but so far I'm impressed, and it feels like it's potentiating the buzz quite nicely!
EDIT: I'm editing in the plateau phase report because I still can edit.
Tramadol is definitely a fantastic potentiator despite being only useful as a w/d aid for somebody with any opioid tolerance. I feel for sure higher than I would feel without the tramadol. It also adds a unique loved-up feeling to the buzz ... probably due to the serotonergic effects of tramadol. I have to wonder if tramadol is a mild serotonin releaser and not a reuptake inhibitor since I feel some empathy like I'd expect if I tried MDMA but just not very strong. The opioid and the stimulant effects are potentiated, but it adds this extra something in the form of empathy and loving feelings that are likely serotonergic that give the feeling of an even more intense high. Highly recommended combination here; this does feel wonderful.
The carisoprodol is unaffected by the tram, but is potentiating the full body relaxation that the opioid causes like it normally would even without the tram. Carisoprodol is a great GABA(A) agonist drug, in some ways better than benzodiazepines, especially for opioid potentiation (it kicks ass over benzos for opioid potentiation). I'm surprised it's not a C-III federally (not complaining though!) and than tramadol isn't C-V federally. I know that both are C-IV in some states, but not in NY. Many folks on bluelight report that carisoprodol is actually superior recreationally versus meprobamate (Miltown) which is scheduled federally and is a metabolite of carisoprodol (Soma). Carisoprodol is active by itself though as a GABA(A) agonist and the meprobamate metabolite just happens to add to and account for some of the effects. Judging from many reports though, carisoprodol is actually the superior compound for a high with euphoria and for combining with opioids; meprobamate sounds inferior to carisoprodol. My guess is that meprobamate feels identical to carisoprodol except for in one way: carisoprodol is a stronger skeletal muscle relaxant ... the result being that carisoprodol produces a greater "melting into beautiful nothingness" feeling than meprobamate does. It's a beautiful thing that it's not federally scheduled because it can be ordered online from NROPs in massive quantities. Tram can too, and it's worth it, because it's a fantastic potentiatior, this feels awesome.
resorcinol
08-25-2009, 09:46 PM
I was wrong about having reached a plateau already in the last post since i'm even HIGHER now! WOW I feel flippin amazing. Fentanyl + carisoprodol + tramadol + dexmethylphenidate is an incredibly euphoric combination!
I bet mixing four drugs like that, two opioids [fentanyl and tramadol] (the latter one with some serotonergic properties ... I'm convinced a weak releaser like MDMA since it doesn't feel like an SSRI and I feel some of those tactile and empathetic sensations that I've always heard associated with E), one downer [carisoprodol], and a euphoric stimulant [dexmethylphenidate] sounds pretty bad from a harm reduction standpoint. Heck, it IS bad in a way no matter how ya slice it. I however do know my tolerance and the tram was the only part of this I've never had before. Definitely don't just mix all these if you're new to the game and don't know your tolerance well, though! In fact, don't mix drugs until you're quite experienced with a variety of drugs (should you choose to continue down the drug road and not run far, far away in the first place). Mixing of drugs by people who aren't experienced enough or don't know their tolerance / body's reaction to the substances well enough is probably the leading cause of drug overdose deaths. I know most drug OD deaths involve multiple drug intoxication and not being high on just one drug (although it does happen).
I just don't wanna feel responsible if a newbie tries this combo since I feel so awesome on it and ODs. It is risky no matter what, but much much riskier (reckless in fact) to do if you're not prepared (know tolerance, body, and have much experience with the drugs and drug classes involved) to experience the combo.
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