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ryan
08-24-2009, 08:30 PM
Kind of a late post but a few days ago on the 22nd was Layne's BDAY.
I was listening to some of his last interviews with the band and by himself last weekend on youtube.
It was really friggen sad what his life was like towards the end.
He even said in one interview that his old bandmates were "not his friends" and basically that he had no friends at all due to his drug use.

Here's an exerpt from the book "Angry Chair" which I have not read yet..if anyone has read it, what do you think?

Almost a year after the April 2002 death of Alice in Chains singer Layne Staley, the final interview with the troubled musician has surfaced in the recently released book "Layne Staley: Angry Chair — A Look Inside the Heart and Soul of an Incredible Musician" by Argentinean writer and music fan Adriana Rubio.

The conversation took place less than three months before Staley died from an overdose of heroin and cocaine ("Layne Staley Died From Mix Of Heroin, Cocaine, Report Says"), and revealed a broken 34-year-old who had given up the will to live.

"I know I'm dying," he rasped through missing teeth. "I'm not doing well. Don't try to talk about this to my sister Liz. She will know it sooner or later."

Staley, suffering from fever and nausea, told Rubio that his need for heroin was all-consuming, even though the effects of the drug were no longer enjoyable. He added that smack had completely ravaged his system and left him empty and filled with regrets.

"This f---ing drug use is like the insulin a diabetic needs to survive," he said. "I'm not using drugs to get high like many people think. I know I made a big mistake when I started using this sh--. It's a very difficult thing to explain. My liver is not functioning and I'm throwing up all the time and sh---ing my pants. The pain is more than you can handle. It's the worst pain in the world. Dope sick hurts the entire body."

The most chilling passage of the interview reads like a suicide note.

"I know I'm near death," he said. "I did crack and heroin for years. I never wanted to end my life this way. I know I have no chance. It's too late. I never wanted [the public's] thumbs' up about this f---ing drug use. Don't try to contact any AIC (Alice in Chains) members. They are not my friends."

In the rest of the interview, Staley talked about his relationship with his family. He stressed that he's always been close to his mother Nancy McCallum, sister Liz and stepsister Jamie, but that when he was eight years old his father walked out on the family and Staley's life faded to black.

"My world became a nightmare," he said. "There were just shadows around me. I got [a] call saying that my dad had died, [but] my family always knew he was around doing all kind of drugs. Since that call I always was wondering, 'Where is my dad?' I felt so sad for him and I missed him. He dropped out of my life for 15 years."

Staley insisted he always knew he had the talent and creativity to be rock star, and thought that if he became a celebrity his dad would return. So he started writing songs in his teens and jamming with other musicians. At the same time, he did a bit of research to find out where his father was living and what kind of a man he was.

"When I was 16, I tried to find him without saying a word to my family," revealed Staley. "I did it for a long f---in' time, and what I found over the years was not good, so I changed my mind about wanting to see my dad again."

At that point, Staley focused all his energy on music, reveling in it as a cathartic outlet.

"I was about 20, and music became my only obsession to stay alive," he said. "I had the chance to throw out all this anger by the music in order to help others. It was therapeutic and worked [for] me for a while until my dad saw my picture printed on a magazine."

Just as Alice in Chains started to take off, the man Staley expended so much energy and anguish thinking about suddenly wanted to become a part of the rocker's life. The then 21-year-old singer was wary, but he still hoped seeing his dad again would help fill the hole in his heart.

"He said he'd been clean of drugs for six years," Staley related. "So, why in the hell didn't he come back before? I was very cautious at first. Then the relationship changed. My father started using drugs again. We did drugs together and I found myself in a miserable situation. He started visiting me all day to get high and do drugs with me. He came up to me just to get some sh--, and that's all. I was trying to kick this habit out of my life and here comes this man asking for money to buy some smack."

Being used by his father was one of the forces that contributed to Staley's downward slide.

"He finally kicked heroin use, and I'm still fighting," he said bitterly. "I invested a lot of money on treatments. I know I did my best or what I thought would be right. I changed my number. I don't wanna see people anymore and it's nobody's business but mine."

The remainder of "Layne Staley: Angry Chair" is composed of interviews with the singer's mom and sister that outline Staley's childhood, interests, personality, love life and career. The 146-page book also contains the author's take on the European Renaissance and the history of heroin.

Rubio wrote much of the text in first person and empathized with Staley's family by comparing her struggle with bulimia to the ravages of addiction. She features quotes and song lyrics by musician John Brandon, who penned the book "Unchained ... The Story of Mike Starr," but did not interview any of Staley's bandmates, friends, business associates or artists that toured with Alice in Chains.

"Layne Staley: Angry Chair" features 50 pages of photos of Staley's sketches, diary entries, childhood pictures, art work and his eulogy by his friend and Screaming Trees drummer Barrett Martin.

I really think I'm gonna order this book -- from what I've been reading it seems like his dad basically ruined his life, then just as he bounced back and became the person he was meant to be -- his dad came back and fucked him up again -- but this time it was permanent.

I have had the privelage of seeing AIC a few times in the past few years and I gotta say while I really admire them for moving on and writing some new kickass material, it's just not the same.

Can't fault them for it tho -- since I was too young to see them back in the day; if they wouldn't have re-united I would have NEVER had the chance to see them at all.

I really like the new song "Check my brain" .. can't wait for the new album!
RIP Layne :(

DarthStoner
08-24-2009, 08:49 PM
Ah yes, AIC was/is one of my favorite bands - favorite is located to the left of this post. I have read that final interview, and it is among the most bone-chilling, saddening, and downright disturbing things I've ever seen. As a huge AIC fan, I almost feel like I know them, as their music hits a deep, powerful chord within me... I feel like I can directly relate to what Layne/Jerry were saying in their songs. While I hate the term "grunge," mostly because it unfairly pigeonholes bands that have nothing in common w/ e/o except that they played rock music and usually had long, often manic-panic dyed hair. How can Nirvana and AIC be grouped in the same music catagory as Creed and Collective Soul? It's just not right. Though I hate the term grunge, I truly wish that the bands from the early 90s lasted a bit longer, since rock music seemed to die a slow and painful death after Kurt Cobain passed on - AIC was pretty much on permanant hiatus by that point, rarely (if ever) touring or releasing new material... though the 3-legged dog album did come out post-KCs death, and I thought it kicked ass. Anyway, I too would like to wish Layne a happy B-day, and send a prayer of thanks and an spiritual embrace of empathy to his soul. He truly had one of the great voices in modern rock (and in rock music history), and what his/AICs music did for me I can never repay. RIP Layne Staley/Kurt Cobain, music hasn't recovered since you've gone.

chopstix
08-24-2009, 09:17 PM
Interesting, his old man was well reputed in the city for dealing, I know several people who used to cop from him.

I have a good friend in Seattle who knows this guy, I can't remember exactly what it is he does for the bands, but he knows a lot of people in the scene and the bands members themselves, he might be a promoter, not sure.. I know he worked with (at least) AIC and Pearl Jam (ugh)..

He told my friend that they knew something was up with Layne when his accountant noticed he hadn't pulled any cash for a couple weeks, so they went to his house and found him. He was so sucked up and skinny, there really wasn't a whole lot to decompose, and he apparently didn't smell much - I think he'd been dead about two weeks before they found him.. Sad. That's what endless speedballs gets ya, cos that's what he did until one finally killed him.

I got popped once and wound up in a holding cell with this kid I went to HS with; told me he'd been partying with Layne regularly for months. Dude LOVED crack and klonopin, and obviously the black too.. But dope, kpin and crack, man u head be bouncing off your chest like a basketball.. We used to play that game: eat pins, shoot dope... Then try and keep your eyes open long enough to hit the stem; if you do then you get to tweak for like 3 minutes before falling out again - good times.. (kidding, it was kind of a fun game, but I don't miss crack or that particular scene *at fucking all* - homeless in the U-District wasn't much fun..

ryan
08-24-2009, 10:05 PM
Interesting, his old man was well reputed in the city for dealing, I know several people who used to cop from him.

I have a good friend in Seattle who knows this guy, I can't remember exactly what it is he does for the bands, but he knows a lot of people in the scene and the bands members themselves, he might be a promoter, not sure.. I know he worked with (at least) AIC and Pearl Jam (ugh)..

He told my friend that they knew something was up with Layne when his accountant noticed he hadn't pulled any cash for a couple weeks, so they went to his house and found him. He was so sucked up and skinny, there really wasn't a whole lot to decompose, and he apparently didn't smell much - I think he'd been dead about two weeks before they found him.. Sad. That's what endless speedballs gets ya, cos that's what he did until one finally killed him.

I got popped once and wound up in a holding cell with this kid I went to HS with; told me he'd been partying with Layne regularly for months. Dude LOVED crack and klonopin, and obviously the black too.. But dope, kpin and crack, man u head be bouncing off your chest like a basketball.. We used to play that game: eat pins, shoot dope... Then try and keep your eyes open long enough to hit the stem; if you do then you get to tweak for like 3 minutes before falling out again - good times.. (kidding, it was kind of a fun game, but I don't miss crack or that particular scene *at fucking all* - homeless in the U-District wasn't much fun..

Wow, I mean while I understand the addiction part I still think his dads a scumbag.
I think I read that on another site too that the reason why people were concerned was because one of his accountants called and said there hadn't been any withdrawals lately -- hah.

As for Grunge, that is just a term record companys\mtv came up with to make a buck on 90s music.
I don't even consider AIC grunge they are more on the metal side of things but thats just my opinion I guess.

My ex lives in seattle and I've been there 4-5 times to visit.
Never had the chance to cop though, all the times I went I was clean.
I did visit viretta park (i think that was the name of it?) to see kurts bench where he used to chill and nod out...kind of cool...it's a great city I think.

What really gets me about Layne is that all the other band members said that no matter where they were or what they were doing if he needed their help they would be there in the drop of a pin...It's just so sad that he knew he was going to die, and choose death instead of life. I think Jerry said after Layne died that they hadn't even spoken in two years -- that's fucked up...they were pretty much best friends from the day they met.

I like to get high too but if it was seriously fucking with my health -- I dunno man...fuck I want to say I would stop but then I get honest with myself and would probably just use that as an excuse to justify getting even more high...guess that's how it goes :| Fucking smack! It's taken sooo many great minds away from our culture. Layne, Kurt, Shannon Hoon, Bradley Nowell, list goes on...

The insane part is we all know what it does yet do it anyways.
Aint that a beotchhhhhhhhhhh.

DarthStoner
08-25-2009, 04:21 AM
I did visit viretta park (i think that was the name of it?) to see kurts bench where he used to chill and nod out...kind of cool...it's a great city I think.

I gotta check this place out - plus the supposed bridge that he (Kurt) refrences in Something in the Way - kind of as a way to pay homage to someone who has played such an important role in my life (even though he didn't ever live under the bridge, it was a fabrication, though the bridge does exist)... and I didn't even know him, never got to see them play, etc. Side note, I saw the Foo Fighters and everyone was shouting out Nirvana songs and chanting "Nirvana." Dave said "they didn't know those (songs)." Oh well, can't really blame him... he had to move on, and I'm glad he did.

What really gets me about Layne is that all the other band members said that no matter where they were or what they were doing if he needed their help they would be there in the drop of a pin...

I've had this precise thought - before I got deep into opies - but now that I have, I think I kinda have a better understanding of where Layne was coming from. I've seen video of AIC, some of it toward the end, and all of AIC's friends, like Mark Arm (Mudhoney), and Tad (Tad), were really sure "Layne was up to no good," (I think Tad said this). Now put yourself in Layne's shoes, sure your bandmates want you to get better, but you can't, and everytime you see them they talk about how good it is to be clean(er), and how the band needs to get back together, and how you need to get clean, and whatever... and all you can think about is the torture you feel from this terrible monkey on your back that is slowly killing you. And you think to yourself, all these fuckers are talking to me out of selfishness and greed - since obviously AIC wouldn't be/isn't the same w/o Layne, they needed him for personal reasons (at least in his eyes), not cause they truly cared about him.

I like to get high too but if it was seriously fucking with my health -- I dunno man...fuck I want to say I would stop but then I get honest with myself and would probably just use that as an excuse to justify getting even more high

Also, keep in mind that Layne's longtime, love of his life, girlfriend passed either just before or just after the release of Dirt, from a heart-lining infection caused from IVing. Her name was Demri Lara Parrott, and she was the influence of many of Layne's lyrics, esp the kinda rare, formerly unreleased song, Died. Everything I read about this indicates that Layne never recovered from this, nor did he stop feeling the guilt of being a part of what killed her.

Sorry for such a long post, but Nirvana and Alice are my 1 and 2 favorite bands ever, and both deaths deeply affected me, so I got a lot to say about this stuff:D.
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Also, ryan, before you buy this book, I think you should be made aware that the author was sued by Layne's mom for misrepresenting what she said, and it has been ridiculed by critics and AIC fans alike... apparently, the author goes on and on trying to create the illusion that she had a deep understanding of Layne's H/crack addiction because of probs w/ bulimia. Everything I read about this book was very negative, and there are no reputable sources in there - no bandmates or close friends, just family - who claim they were misquoted/misrepresented - and I do not think they knew Layne the sickman. This short, final interview is the lone gem in an otherwise terrible book... plus, it ends soon after this passage cause Layne feels shitty and tells her to leave.

ryan
08-25-2009, 07:50 AM
Ah, I see. Can you recommend any decent books about layne?
I am kind of curious about Mike Starr's book but he just seems like a douchebag to me.

I am kind of pissed about the foo fighters actually.
The first album where dave basically was the entire band was amazing -- then after that they turned into a rock boy band. Not sure what happened but they suck now..

The so called bridge is probably in aberdeen, wa.
I've been there too -- me and my gf went to stay at ocean shores, wa for the weekend and drove thru aberdeen.
it looked like a very depressing town honestly -- there's like NOTHING there.
One of the coolest things though, right when you are driving in, theres this huge river \ bridge \ logging thing and then -- you see the Aberdeen sign and there is "Come as you are" written in big letters on it.

I think you're wrong about the band members wanting layne to be well for greed -- sean kinney even said awhile ago that he wants to play new music but not as AIC -- jerry obv. talked him and mike into it but if you listen to any of their interviews you can tell they are all really close friends. The rockline interview is on youtube -- the one where Jerry and Mike Inez were in the studio, and then sean kinney called in from new york -- and then out of NOWHERE layne calls in.
It had to be awkard as hell since they prob. hadn't spoken to layne in some time before that.

dharma bum
08-25-2009, 08:15 AM
I saw them in Louisville back in 97 i think. He had a broke leg and he came wheeling out in a wheelchair. He said he had a broke leg but at least it wasn't a broke dick. I think that it was their last tour. I'm not sure they even finished that tour.

Paregoric Kid
08-25-2009, 11:09 AM
"This f---ing drug use is like the insulin a diabetic needs to survive," he said. "I'm not using drugs to get high like many people think. I know I made a big mistake when I started using this sh--. It's a very difficult thing to explain. My liver is not functioning and I'm throwing up all the time and sh---ing my pants. The pain is more than you can handle. It's the worst pain in the world. Dope sick hurts the entire body."
so fucking depressingly true.
Alice in Chains were fucking amazing and so was Layne, it really sucks things had to end that way for him.

DarthStoner
08-25-2009, 03:36 PM
Ah, I see. Can you recommend any decent books about layne?
I am kind of curious about Mike Starr's book but he just seems like a douchebag to me.
Actually, this has kind of been complained about - that there's no good Layne/AIC books, but numerous Kurt/Nirvana ones... However, if you do a google search for "Layne and Demri," you can find a couple of interesting sites by former friends of the two... went there after writing a post yesterday, spent a couple hours reading about their life/love (not too much about their deaths).

I am kind of pissed about the foo fighters actually.
The first album where dave basically was the entire band was amazing -- then after that they turned into a rock boy band. Not sure what happened but they suck now..
Ok, I don't wholly disagree w/ this statement... I def liked the FFs better from their earlier albums (which is when I saw them), and have noticed recently that they are changing for the worse. I still think they put out some pretty good stuff (esp given the current state of the rock scene), but really don't care for that almost 70s Queen-rock sound that many of their songs now have. Not even close to Nirvana, but I was never expecting that.

I think you're wrong about the band members wanting layne to be well for greed -- sean kinney even said awhile ago that he wants to play new music but not as AIC -- jerry obv. talked him and mike into it but if you listen to any of their interviews you can tell they are all really close friends. The rockline interview is on youtube -- the one where Jerry and Mike Inez were in the studio, and then sean kinney called in from new york -- and then out of NOWHERE layne calls in.
It had to be awkard as hell since they prob. hadn't spoken to layne in some time before that.
You misunderstand what I meant - I don't think the members wanted Layne to get well for selfish reasons, I think, given his warped, junky-ravaged mindset, that he prob thought this, and it was prob very difficult/shameful for him to have gone from rock-God to near death junky... I got this feeling a lot while watching the Unplugged session that AIC did after not touring for years. Sorry should have made that clearer, Layne and Jerry were longtime friends, and I know Jerry desperately wanted his buddy to get better - even if they never played together again... Layne, I think, was just too far gone.

ryan
08-25-2009, 05:20 PM
You misunderstand what I meant - I don't think the members wanted Layne to get well for selfish reasons, I think, given his warped, junky-ravaged mindset, that he prob thought this, and it was prob very difficult/shameful for him to have gone from rock-God to near death junky... I got this feeling a lot while watching the Unplugged session that AIC did after not touring for years. Sorry should have made that clearer, Layne and Jerry were longtime friends, and I know Jerry desperately wanted his buddy to get better - even if they never played together again... Layne, I think, was just too far gone.

Ahh I see, yeah I think you're right -- I know when I get binged out I have warped perceptions also and think of every reason to justify another bag\bundle\shot.
I think the whole concencus with the band was the same, they said layne would always rationalize things that just made no sense to anyone else but him and he was just too far gone after demri died.

pharmacoKinetic
09-06-2009, 11:21 PM
To the OP, the book was re-released which contained additional interview segments; however, it was renamed to "Get Born Again" by Adriana Rubio.

The book is not completely about Layne Staley, she describes her disease a bit as well.

Indeed it is his last interview in its entirety with 2 extra chapters; the 1st book from a different publisher(hence the name change).

A movie will be made about Layne's life based on the aforementioned book.

I really love the lyrics of Layne Staley. I have been a fan since Facelift; released in 1990.

Mad Season was a great collaboration as well and I really like their music.

Layne was found 14 days after his death (sadly he was very isolated from everyone, that no one noticed) the medical examiner determined; regardless of his emaciated state, his body would have been in decomposition with the bacteria releasing very foul odor. Not to mention, he was bloated with rigor mortis(needless to say it would have been a very unpleasant site.

After Demri(his ex-girlfriend in late 1996) died, people have speculated that he took a turn for the worse and never rebounded.

I am an old Alice in Chains/Mad Season fan and I do not agree with the emergence of Jerry-in-Chains with a new front man. They need to change the name and I refuse to support their music.

No Layne, No Chains

The_Highwayman
09-09-2009, 06:15 PM
I love Alice In Chains, their unplugged album is awesome, I rememebr the day he died, the only day I got more phone calls was when Dimebag was killed...Rest In Peace Layne...I tired finding that book at bookstores as I hate ordering over the net, no luck..

Paregoric Kid
09-18-2009, 05:07 AM
has anyone heard about the new album thats coming out called Black Gives Way to Blue? its due out this month and I heard the last part of the new single. can't believe they are trying to bring back Alice in Chains sounds like bullshit. they should start a new band considering Layne is dead and they haven't put out an Alice in Chains album in 14 years. the new singer is William DuVall. in my opinion they should have used a new name for the band, it seems like they are just trying to cash in on the name.

SeVeN
09-18-2009, 10:18 AM
[QUOTE=Paregoric Kid;419155<snip>, it seems like they are just trying to cash in on the name.[/QUOTE]


That is exactly what they are doing. And I really don't like the new song at all.

chopstix
09-18-2009, 09:31 PM
Agreed, that band was Layne and Jerry; without either, no AIC..

Jerry Cantrell is a hell of an artist (and a hell of a partier), he should be able to do quite well on his own, I've got one of his CDs around here somewhere and it's good..

The_Highwayman
09-18-2009, 10:02 PM
Jerry is a great songwriter, singer and guitarist, he was the creative force behind AIC, however it was they harmonic hell of their two voices that amde me them unique and chilling and that is lost with the new AIC, I rather hear JAr of Flies than that metal-esqu stuff anyday...

underide
09-19-2009, 03:13 AM
I don't know *exactly* why, but i never really got into Alice in Chains
I like a lot of the bands that they "grew up" with and were playing the circuit with and still do listen to them (excluding quite a lot of them too though - PJ, Soundgarden - after its' first album...etc)

A LOT of the AIC songs (the ones that i heard anyway) were dealing strictly with a matter of dope-life and crippling depression, and the sound itself (music) did not quite agree with me, but that's just being honest, i hope you don't take me for being a dick here

But not to defile this thread -
By all accounts, I could certainly see that Layne was a tortured soul and I could certainly sympathize with his condition but he had to lighten up a bit. (as always -easy to say, way harder to do, and i know that)
To me it seemed that he totally embraced his despair (i could be totally wrong - that's only the impression i got from the few of his songs, and like i say, i haven't heard the majority of their material, just a small part of it.

In any case R.I.P, Layne and I'm by no means trying to diss the guy here