Confused

[dnice]

so I fucked up took norco 10/325 for 2 years striaght got up to 23 pills a day and now im 20 days clean had to go to this hell detox but I miss it......the pillz that is

whats the deal when ur an addict can i be a weekend warrior take it again here and there or is it if I take again im hooked......is their a subsitute to get the same feeling...

sorry im new here but u guys all seem to be like me......we live in the same worlld that normal ppl think is a problem... there has to be a way to walk the line

D

[Coddfish]

not very likely

[superman]

i've been hooked on and off for a long while to oxy/morph/D. right now i am not dependant on anything. keep in mind this is only cuz i can't afford it ATM. but a couple weeks ago i grabbed 10 oxy80s and did them no problem, no withdrawals after. it seems to take about a week of heavy use for me to have any withdrawals, but they only get really bad when i have been using 160mg oxy/day for a few weeks.

But this i can guarentee you: as soon as i have relocated to a city i will be taking up either a heroin, morphine or pod habit. the desire to use opies never leaves me. every night i dream wonderfull dreams of needles and dope, then wake up without anything....

if you want to quit, quit for 6 months or more and then re-evaluate whether you want to use. there is a large psychological component to this addiciton on top of the physical, and it certainly is not letting go of me. when i quit using ketamine, and moved away from toronto for a year, the entire time i just wanted to go back into that K-hole. when i finally did get back to toronto one year later, i bought an ounce of K at my first opportunity....

that said, IMO opiates have a much stronger psychological hold than ketamine


"is their a subsitute to get the same feeling."
if you have given it a good break, why not try switching down to codiene? CWE several grams of it for dirt cheap. and it is sort of self regulating. do it once a week and you'll enjoy, do it every day and you'll barely notice it.

[Special-K]

I don't know dnice. Be careful on this one and use your head, because it's not very likely. If you're clean, I believe I would think about it for awhile. Hope I didn't bust your bubble. Just use your head.

[dnice]

its just frustrating to think at 29 I cant use again like i should have slowed down so i could continue the usage but more controlled.......

i cant get hooked again cause i have so much to lose but god I miss it.......

i just dont understand what happens after a detox and addiction...will I always be addicted or do i have to work for it like i did this time?

[devilsdrug]

everybodies different every situations different, one thing for sure is dont beat urself up or ull porbably get what u wish for

[DaOxyMan]

^DD is exactly right man which is why its dangerous to play with fire...you must ask yourself- does the risk outweigh the benefits? for alot of us, we take the risk...for me, using two days in a row (been "clean ish" for bout 2 months) now adays equals about 4 days of w/d symptoms so it appears i will always be cursed...no more days of 'partying' on opiates for the weekends ya know what i mean? for me it seems since i became an addict, that now

OPIATES = CONSEQUENCE

you could be different, but is it worth it?

[Phluck]

If you decide to just use on the weekends.... 99% chance you'll be back to using daily in no time.

If you don't want to start using again, don't do it.

[ZodiacKiller]

Yep, dnice, these people speak the truth. I've been trying to go back to being a 'chipper' for about a year now--never works. So I'm always playing the game: do drugs/go back on Suboxone to fight WD/do drugs/etc...it is really a viscious cycle that once you are addicted, you will have to play. I think it's worth it because I have done every drug that I have seen, and opiates are the true love for me. So I dance on the edge of the razor, and usually pay the price..

It seems that after a while, you just get used to the WD as being a part of life (pathetic, I know), and you deal with them just as you would any other malady. Now I just think "oh, well, a couple days of WD", then I get paid and can be in sweet Smack-land (sounds like a fun-house ride or something). I've adjusted my budget to include my addiction-money and everything, that's how much a part of life opiates have become for me. Sad, I know, but that's what I've become....And I really, honestly, don't have any regrets, because I could die in a car crash tomorrow, so why not live for today....


ZK

[superman]

ZK you are so right... it kind of creeps up on ya but before you know it you're orienting your life around opiates. for example i have some awesome work avilable to me, and i need the money, but i am not going untill my pods get here in the mail.

when i don't have drugs i tend not to go out and socialize much. housework doesn't get done, i experience more bad moods.

but on the up side of things it's great motivation for success. it's no fun being a broke junkie

[shaunclo]

Wow, I dont there is much I can add to all of these replies.

But I will try, once an addcit, always an addcit, atleast thats how it is with me. When I first went on suboxone, I was completely clean for about a year and 1/2, then bam, got cravings and went to find a source. Now I try and keep my binges few and far between, but if it was up to me and the money wasnt a problem, I would easily be a daily user for the rest of my days. I dont think any of us opiate addicts ever go back to the way we were before we tried opiates.