Maybe gettin 9 bags- first timer.

[Swellin]

Ok quick history been using morphine for over 2 years daily, can handle 200-240mg at a time orally that is. Now ive been helpin a friend out whos in jail and is on a pass for a school thing, ill toss him some shit every now and then. Now out of pill so but he plans on buyin some H and he said he would give me 9 points i think or small bags, im not sure what u call em as ive never tried h before. I dont usally fuck with needles but ive shot up some morph before and im just wondering what would be a good starting dose for me? i have a scale so that helps.

[Dan Steely]

If you don't usually use pins ya prob shouldn't bang h with no idea. sniffin works fine. start w/1/4 bag n keep up,n every 15 minutes till ya puke. jk be careful man. you just gotta be smart and patient between upping your dose. only you can figure out what is the right amt for you.

[duck]

I'm guessing the H is #4, as that is the only dope I have seen that is commonly weighed in .1g "bags" or "points"....but if not, let me know, and I will amend my response. It's not tar, is it?

The #4 whitish powder dope that I have gotten from the east coast, strength wise, was around 100mg morphine, or about 80mg of OC when i did it. If it is number 4, and not base, you can just snort it as is since it is water soluble. I would just start with 1/2 bag, and go up from there. The best dope I ever had, was probably around 200mg of morphine per 1 bag, but it was really expensive as I got it too far west (STL). I really enjoy snorting my smack -- tar, base and #4 -- and find the effects to be exactly what I like. I've shot it plenty as well, and while the overall effects are more towards the initial rush and less of the legs, I just don't like shooting up a whole lot so I prefer snorting.

You can also smoke it, but this takes p r a c t i c e. I wouldn't waste my time trying to learn smoking gear with your first gram of heroin. Snort or shoot, IMO. If you shoot, you may start w/ a quarter bag, just to be on the safe side.

[nick]

Oh and maybe tell him to keep the dope and if he want's to do you a solid,maybe ask him to get you a book or buy you a cup of coffee or anything apart from give you dope really.

If you do decide on the dope......for god's sake snort it.

[Chipper]

and if you don't listen to nick, never forget the old classic "a few holes in the arm beats one in the dirt" (or however it goes).

[Shadowsblaze]

Oh and maybe tell him to keep the dope and if he want's to do you a solid,maybe ask him to get you a book or buy you a cup of coffee or anything apart from give you dope really.

If you do decide on the dope......for god's sake snort it.

Orrrr give me the pins and I'll do ya two high times and a elbow of Kona french roast.

[Kicks]

SNORT IT.

It's your first time with dope, it's going to be fucking awesome no matter what. If you start off banging it, you're starting off at the top and there ain't nowhere to go but down. Save IVing for when you've built up a tolerance and snorting/smoking doesn't get you off anymore. Your first taste and your first time banging are two landmark moments in your dope career; they're the moments you'll be chasing for a long time to come. Why waste them doing it all in one go?

Take things slow and just fucking enjoy it.

I made the mistake of jumping in headfirst. I started my habit by going straight to H, consequently missing out on all the other opiates/oids—codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine—in between. I'm never going to know the joy of getting buzzed off of a handful of Roxis or nodding on a couple of MS Contins. I've essentially missed out on my "opiate childhood." I was scripted IR oxycodone a month ago (to transition to bupe from methadone)—my first script of an opi sans APAP; something that should've been a score. I couldn't even cop a buzz eating 'em like Altoids. If I hadn't dived into the deep end so soon, I could have had fun working my way up the opiate ladder. Instead, I'm relatively young (early twenties) and don't have much to look forward to in terms of stronger highs, maybe hydromorphone, oxymorphone, fentanyl. The one thing I've done right is stay away from needles, for the most part. If I'd started banging, I would be seriously fucked, as I have very few, very deep veins to begin with.

A low tolerance is more precious than virginity. Don't fuck around with it. Once you go smack, you ain't never going back.

[Dan Steely]

^^^^ a very good point.

[duck]

SNORT IT.

It's your first time with dope, it's going to be fucking awesome no matter what. If you start off banging it, you're starting off at the top and there ain't nowhere to go but down. Save IVing for when you've built up a tolerance and snorting/smoking doesn't get you off anymore. Your first taste and your first time banging are two landmark moments in your dope career; they're the moments you'll be chasing for a long time to come. Why waste them doing it all in one go?

Take things slow and just fucking enjoy it.

I made the mistake of jumping in headfirst. I started my habit by going straight to H, consequently missing out on all the other opiates/oids—codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine—in between. I'm never going to know the joy of getting buzzed off of a handful of Roxis or nodding on a couple of MS Contins. I've essentially missed out on my "opiate childhood." I was scripted IR oxycodone a month ago (to transition to bupe from methadone)—my first script of an opi sans APAP; something that should've been a score. I couldn't even cop a buzz eating 'em like Altoids. If I hadn't dived into the deep end so soon, I could have had fun working my way up the opiate ladder. Instead, I'm relatively young (early twenties) and don't have much to look forward to in terms of stronger highs, maybe hydromorphone, oxymorphone, fentanyl. The one thing I've done right is stay away from needles, for the most part. If I'd started banging, I would be seriously fucked, as I have very few, very deep veins to begin with.

A low tolerance is more precious than virginity. Don't fuck around with it. Once you go smack, you ain't never going back.

this is really fucking awesome insight and should be heeded by every noob around these parts. I, contrarily, did go almost EXACTLY step by step up the opiate ladder, and my god if I had started at heroin or dillies or fent I would have missed out on so, so much bliss.

[dieselbaby]

SNORT IT.

It's your first time with dope, it's going to be fucking awesome no matter what. If you start off banging it, you're starting off at the top and there ain't nowhere to go but down. Save IVing for when you've built up a tolerance and snorting/smoking doesn't get you off anymore. Your first taste and your first time banging are two landmark moments in your dope career; they're the moments you'll be chasing for a long time to come. Why waste them doing it all in one go?

Take things slow and just fucking enjoy it.

I made the mistake of jumping in headfirst. I started my habit by going straight to H, consequently missing out on all the other opiates/oids—codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone, morphine—in between. I'm never going to know the joy of getting buzzed off of a handful of Roxis or nodding on a couple of MS Contins. I've essentially missed out on my "opiate childhood." I was scripted IR oxycodone a month ago (to transition to bupe from methadone)—my first script of an opi sans APAP; something that should've been a score. I couldn't even cop a buzz eating 'em like Altoids. If I hadn't dived into the deep end so soon, I could have had fun working my way up the opiate ladder. Instead, I'm relatively young (early twenties) and don't have much to look forward to in terms of stronger highs, maybe hydromorphone, oxymorphone, fentanyl. The one thing I've done right is stay away from needles, for the most part. If I'd started banging, I would be seriously fucked, as I have very few, very deep veins to begin with.

A low tolerance is more precious than virginity. Don't fuck around with it. Once you go smack, you ain't never going back.

Please listen to him. The bioavailability of oral morphine flat-out fuckin' sucks (so don't be really basing your tolerance off of that)....you will get good and high just sniffing it. Please don't start shooting. It never ends up well. You probably won't listen to me anyways; it seems like one of those things that people need to learn for themselves. Just hope you don't have to go through the misery and suffering I had to (and many others still do).

[InfectedMushroom]

If someone is set on shooting, they will no matter what. But, we have let them know. Take your time and snort it. I pretty much jumped right to H since it was easy to get but I'd love to have climbed that opie ladder...

[Swellin]

I think i had pretty much convinced my self to bang it atleast once out of the h im gettin this week, but KICKS i gotta say thanks man you make some very solid points and dieselbaby you make a good point about the oral bio- of morphine even tho i can eat 240mg of morphine that does not really say much for H. Ive watched my tolerance grow for morphine and ive kept it in check for about a year now not taking anymore than 180-210mg a day and lowing it at the end of the month to catch up so i dont run out early. So instead of fucking with my tolerance anymore im gonna stick to snorting it and instead of iving the H once i think ill maybe try and smoke it one time. Thanks for all the advice guys i was pretty dead set on shooting it but ill save that for another time and although im sure ill bang it one of these days ill wait it out.

Side note what should i expect after snorting it ? Is it similar to an oxy or morphine rush? Cause ive snorted oxy a few times and while it hits fast i still prefer the high i get from a high dose of oral morphine even tho it takes 20min for the onset. Also how long after snorting it will it take to hit me, and how long will the rush last? if there is one.

[durka_durka]

well compared to morphine h would be more of a rush and not as long duration afterall heroin is just diacetylmorphine anyways

[Nu Jerzey Devil]

I think i had pretty much convinced my self to bang it atleast once out of the h im gettin this week, but KICKS i gotta say thanks man you make some very solid points and dieselbaby you make a good point about the oral bio- of morphine even tho i can eat 240mg of morphine that does not really say much for H. Ive watched my tolerance grow for morphine and ive kept it in check for about a year now not taking anymore than 180-210mg a day and lowing it at the end of the month to catch up so i dont run out early. So instead of fucking with my tolerance anymore im gonna stick to snorting it and instead of iving the H once i think ill maybe try and smoke it one time. Thanks for all the advice guys i was pretty dead set on shooting it but ill save that for another time and although im sure ill bang it one of these days ill wait it out.

Side note what should i expect after snorting it ? Is it similar to an oxy or morphine rush? Cause ive snorted oxy a few times and while it hits fast i still prefer the high i get from a high dose of oral morphine even tho it takes 20min for the onset. Also how long after snorting it will it take to hit me, and how long will the rush last? if there is one.

You should start to feel it within 5 minutes of snorting it.... you won't get a rush, you'll just notice that you feel high, and really good. I haven't snorted H in a while, I IV it all, but I have snorted here and there, and yes it takes about 5 minutes more or less to start feeling it. Let us know what you end up doing and how it goes. Most of all, be careful!

[FlapJack]

I agree with everyone here definetely just snort it or even smoke it depending what kind of shit you have. I'm happy I managed to wait so long before shooting up and that when I did I stabilized my use to lower the cost of my habit. you're gonna love it either way but why not leave something to look forward to? And also being an IV user increases your risk like a bagillion fold in many many ways.

[Nu Jerzey Devil]

To the OP, did you end up getting the bags? If so how did everything go?

[Swellin]

Well i dont have 9 bags, buddy gave me a point its wrapped up in some foil and then in that is a piece of paper with some powder in it. Ill be doing it with in the hour having a smoke right now then plan on snorting pretty fuckin excited haha anyways will make another post shortly about the experience. Thanks for all the advice everyone.

[Swellin]

ok the heroin looks like a tanish white powder there were 2 small chunks as well so i chopped it up for about 10 minutes and made 4 lines 1 small, medium large and xtra large line i did the medium line was expecting to feel something with in the first minute or 2 i thought it was bunk at first then at the 4 minute mark i felt well i feel very warm and stoned, alot stronger than my morphine tastes similar to it tho i probably could take the hole thing but i get very panicky taking new meds that im uncomfortable with eyes feel hazy will wait 5 more min then do another line.