SWIM smokes oxycontin

[dragonnas]

I've been lurking on this forum for months, reading all the many posts that strike my interest and I finally got the chance to register so I could put my opinion out here.

SWIM smokes oxycontin. Not only does SWIM smoke it, but most of my friends smoke it. SWIM has showed numerous people how to smoke oxy and many of them have switched their preferred ROA from insuffiation to vaporization due to the differences in the high you get. This is very real and it's not a joke. It's SWIM's preferred ROA, to the extent that he avoids scoring pills that can't be smoked (such as the oxy IRs, or the mallinkroft generics).

Believe it. Questions?

[30_Units]

Whacha payin per pill?

[chopstix]

Questions, no. L0Lz, yes.

You have fun with that, considering oxy's BA, I don't see a need to smoke things that weren't designed to be smoked in the first place..

[nick]

Sure I believe it.Folks do all sorts of weird,dumb shit.So,No.No questions.

and of course,welcome.

[Maintenance Man]

+1

When I got nearly as high, with longer legs, from the same amount of oxy PO as I did IV, I did some research. The BA of OC is 89% - you only get 11% more effect from IV than from swallowing it.

Burning definitely pyrolizes part of the matter - even more of the matter is lost to the air. I doubt the BA is any better than oral; you're losing part of your drug, and talc is bad for your lungs.

[dharma bum]

Epic lulz for all to enjoy..

I smoke my subs...for the lulz..

So you been lurking for months and you think this is groundbreaking stuff? There's a bunch of stuff on smoking oxys and it always gets laughed at. I've heard this so many times, even i am starting to question myself.

Welcome to Opiophile too, by the way..

[JonnyMohawk]

the bio-availability of smoked oxycontin is very low...


You are better off eating it... no joke man.



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[dharma bum]

Oh shit there's a story on anonymous story on Fox News about getting 'epic lulz' from 'threats to expose the Harry Potter ending.' Crazy funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNO6G4ApJQY

sorry OT

[hydro chris]

welcome buddy

[DarthStoner]

Know a guy just like this... Smokes all his shit, won't buy IR oxys, won't even consider any other method unless he's desperate. Once he tried to turn swim on to smoking, and swim thought it fuckin sucked. After smoking an 80, swim got in his car and inhaled a 40, which swim finally got a little buzz off of. Then swim went home and took another 40 + some morphine (oral) and inhaled another 40... felt fine and dandy after that, smokiing just left a bad taste in swim's mouth. Thought it was a major waste, but whatever, to each his own.

[Dan Steely]

I can sorta get high smoking east coast powder but it's a huge waste of dope.

The topic of smoking oc has been brought up repeatedly here and I have yet to see the method validated by one single reputable member. In fact most people here that know their way around the world of opiates ridicule the practice. That should tell you something.

[Larkin]

When i "cleaned up" and my tolerance went way down i knew i could get 2 days out of an 80, so i took like a 10mg chunk of an 80 and tried to smoke it, as i was doing it i realized how much i didnt like it. If you are going to sacrifice the legs for a quick fix, i would rather snort. It might take a couple more min to hit you but you get higher, you swallow some from the drip, and the 2nd you snort it you feel relief. not to mention i think a urinal cake would test better when smoked.

also... a relative of mine went to rehab with someone who smoked roxis. Supposedly he would just put the pill in a bowl and kill it in one hit. 30's too, if thats true, i bet the rush would compare to IV

[Shadowsblaze]

I heard it stinks like shit as well. Not litterly just bad.

[DarthStoner]

I heard it stinks like shit as well. Not litterly just bad.
Yeah, the one guy I know who does it always has this funky stinky-sweet odor that follows him around... it's kinda gross, especially when he tries to cover it with a lot of scented deoderant or cologne. I never knew what that smell was until the day that he tried to turn me on to smokin OCs.

[faster36]

Just a waste of good stuff. But to each he s own enjoy.

[Ickyuck]

Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=5776&highlight=smoke+oxycontin), Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=20809&highlight=smoke+oxycontin), Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=15040&highlight=smoke+oxycontin)... :rolleyes:

[Dan Steely]

Snorting is a good way to go because even though you lose some of the bioavailibility you get it back when you hork down the drip later. So the way I see it you don't really lose anything.

[Raisin]

You know what I like most about evangelicals? Not only do they care about the fate of my eternal soul, they are so concerned about me burning in hell forever and ever that they come to my house and knock on my door because they want to talk to me about it. Sometimes they catch me at the right moment and we have some fun but other times I tell them that I have a gun and they better get off my property.

They try to get me to change my ROA too. They tell me I can get so much more Jesus if I do it like they do. I appreciate the concern for my soul but I'm gonna stick with serpent handling and speaking in tongues cause if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Seriously though, thanks for the heads up.

I believe you.

[JonnyMohawk]

Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=5776&highlight=smoke+oxycontin), Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=20809&highlight=smoke+oxycontin), Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=15040&highlight=smoke+oxycontin)... :rolleyes:


I know right?

He jumped on this board like this is an unheard of phenomenon to us.


This happens every time someone posts about smoke oxy.

[Ickyuck]

You know it, Jonny ;)

[hydro chris]

Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=5776&highlight=smoke+oxycontin), Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=20809&highlight=smoke+oxycontin), Blah (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=15040&highlight=smoke+oxycontin)... :rolleyes:
oh am i suppose to click on those:)

[BlueMajick]

no, i think *he* really means it though....

[Ickyuck]

Who is *he*?

[BlueMajick]

Who is *he*?

sorry haha, the Orig poster.... it was sarcasm, i guess lost because of not being clear, bahhhh

[antifox]

I know a lot of really dumb who smoke their oxycontin. Not only is the BA really low, and the high is a lot shorter, but it's extremely unhealthy. Vaporized and heated talc is extremely toxic to the lungs when it's that hot. You really need to swith ROA because this is probably the most unhealthy, least economic, shortest way to get high with oxycontin. The IV high is very similar to smoked high except the rush is more intense.

[Ickyuck]

sorry haha, the Orig poster.... it was sarcasm, i guess lost because of not being clear, bahhhh

aahhhh OK :cool:

[hydro chris]

I know a lot of really dumb who smoke their oxycontin. Not only is the BA really low, and the high is a lot shorter, but it's extremely unhealthy. Vaporized and heated talc is extremely toxic to the lungs when it's that hot. You really need to swith ROA because this is probably the most unhealthy, least economic, shortest way to get high with oxycontin. The IV high is very similar to smoked high except the rush is more intense.
are you callin the OP dumb

[antifox]

I am calling OP's ROA very dumb. If you want to think that means I am calling OP dumb then go think that, but I am not.

Smoking pills is dumb. The bad FAR outweighs the high that is easily achieved by plenty of other ROA's.

[Ickyuck]

PS: Great first post...

[Swellin]

Man its hard to tell someone who belives in what there doing so much that they are doing something really fuckin stupid but what can ya do? I mean i cant ever see my self taking some of my oxy and putting fire to it especially considering the bio-avail what is it 89% shit whats the point the rush? snort it and eat the drip. Anyways to each is own, oh btw welcome man.

[ATLtrap]

I enjoyed smoking 80s. most i ever smoked was like 10mg once or twice when i just had a little piece of OC left. FWIW, I did enjoy it, but never to the point where it was my go to. On the other hand, I introduced my friend to smoking 80s and before he went to rehab, at his peak, he was smoking 8-10 80s a day. Just a testament to the fact that there are people how absolutely fucking love smoking them, but even more of a testament to the over all wastefulness of smoking 80s.
Snorting
IV
Smoking
Oral
Thats SWIMS order. yes, i know it doesnt make any sense, but the only reason orally is last, is because i have never been able to bring myself to eating OC. sorry for the diatribe.

[antifox]

Mine is exactly the same. There is no rush from oral and that's what I live for.

[BlueMajick]

So even though I'm against smoking OC too... even though i thought about trying it after that MTV true life episode, but decided against it because i'm kind of a health conscious person and would not like ruining my lungs.... anyway, i am curious about something though, and maybe someone can enlighten me.

To anyone out there who's both IV'd pills and smoked pills, what provides the greater rush, my guess would be IV, even though i haven't tried that either. After that question, i'm curious, which is more dangerous... yes smoking them seems foolish and wasteful, and dangerous to the lungs... but then again how much more dangerous or less dangerous is IVing a pill? I mean... if there is still particulate left in the shot, wouldn't that get filtered out in the lungs too... also damaging your lungs? Now maybe someone in a science or health field could answer this one, but what's worse particulate collecting in the lungs through blood stream, or whatever shit lands in your lungs and sticks when u smoke a pill.

If rushes from IV and smoking are similar, I'm curious which ROA is safer. I will never argue that smoking is more wasteful, and just kind of a silly concept to me, both because you loose some to the air and heat damages some i'm sure, and then on top of that the BA is not as great, but which is more dangerous i guess is what i'm curious... and this is just assuming the rushes are somewhat similar, and that a comparison can possibly made on just the danger level.

[antifox]

IV increased a far better rush when I tried it. I haven't tried smoking anything besides oc.

[OverDriven]

Oxycodone decomposes at it's melting point (270 degrees Celcius). You have to get it HOTTER than that to vaporize it. What I'm saying is that you are literally burning your drugs away. The laws of chemistry aren't going to change for you...you aren't getting any oxycodone into your lungs, regardless of what you think you feel. It may be decomposing into something that has some small effect, but it sure as hell isn't oxycodone. At 50 cents per milligram, you might as well just set your wallet on fire if you want to burn money.

[duck]

Oxycodone decomposes at it's melting point (270 degrees Celcius). You have to get it HOTTER than that to vaporize it. What I'm saying is that you are literally burning your drugs away. The laws of chemistry aren't going to change for you...you aren't getting any oxycodone into your lungs, regardless of what you think you feel. It may be decomposing into something that has some small effect, but it sure as hell isn't oxycodone. At 50 cents per milligram, you might as well just set your wallet on fire if you want to burn money.

interesting, didn't know that....can I getta verification?

[dragonnas]

Oxycodone decomposes at it's melting point (270 degrees Celcius). You have to get it HOTTER than that to vaporize it. What I'm saying is that you are literally burning your drugs away. The laws of chemistry aren't going to change for you...you aren't getting any oxycodone into your lungs, regardless of what you think you feel. It may be decomposing into something that has some small effect, but it sure as hell isn't oxycodone. At 50 cents per milligram, you might as well just set your wallet on fire if you want to burn money.

The reason I posted this for my first post is simply that. People on this forum say it can't be done, it doesn't get you high, etc etc etc. When I don't get any for a few days I w/d just like I was IVing 'em. Now I understand the power of suggestion is strong, and there may be a placebo effect blah blah blah, but placebo withdrawal?

And I was skeptical at first, I really was. I thought it was the dumbest, most junky thing to do and I didn't even imagine a person could get high from it. But when SWIM tried it he said he liked it better. The high is instant and more intense than railing 'em, without the drawbacks of sticking yourself. What SWIM likes to do is split an 80 into quarters and either chase the dragon one quarter at a time, or puff one and rail the next, then save the next two for a little later.

SWIM and his friends call it sliding. Because the pill slides down the foil like a little pad of butter. Great for a quickie, you can do it in any bathroom without worrying about getting a sinus infection from railing off a dirty counter, it doesn't clog your nose and give you that telltale druggie SNORT. SWIM has many more reasons to prefer this ROA.

Anyway, I know you all know about it. I've seen all the other threads. But I'm intelligent, and I have stuff to say about this that noone has said. I'm willing to defend SWIM's ROA and in time you will see me become a veteran forum user. Scoff it you will, but here I am and I'm here to stay.

[DarthStoner]

Do it in a bathroom? What at your house? That shit would reek the place up royally, and any self respecting junky that walked in would think you're smoking some of the shittiest, horse dung laced tar on the planet. Fuck, you must be getting real high if you think it can be done inconspicuously in a public bathroom. Hope you don't do this too often, and if you do, it's all been consumed by the time you walk out - not that any cop would wait for you to walk out of the stall to bust you. Whatever, your ass not mine... think what you want.

[antifox]

Oxycodone decomposes at it's melting point (270 degrees Celcius). You have to get it HOTTER than that to vaporize it. What I'm saying is that you are literally burning your drugs away. The laws of chemistry aren't going to change for you...you aren't getting any oxycodone into your lungs, regardless of what you think you feel. It may be decomposing into something that has some small effect, but it sure as hell isn't oxycodone. At 50 cents per milligram, you might as well just set your wallet on fire if you want to burn money.


This may be true, but the three times I tried smoking oxy (it was a relationship thing I needed to build with my dealer at the time) I got high. The rush was similar to IV with almost no legs, less strong, and did I mention very short lasting?

I definitely got high. It definitely eliminated my withdrawals entirely, and it's definitely as retarded as everyone says.

You have to realize that may be the decomposition temperature of oxycodone (I think someone else should verify), but you skipped several key things that could allow oxycodone to still be adsorbed. One, you are smoking it off tinfoil and the flame of the lighter is held far away from the tinfoil, which far decreases the temperature of the flame that is heating the foil which is heating the pill, which brings me to my second point that the foil is acting as an insulator and a short amount of heat is required to smoke oxy and the foil does not become the temperature of the lighter as the flame does not even touch the foil nor is it held long enough to make it the same heat as the flame. Third, everyone who smokes oxycontin slides the pill. A small burst of heat and as the pill slides the temperature quickly drops as vapors and smoke come off. The cool tinfoil, sliding, and continuous exposure to room temperature causes the pill oxycodone to be at an even lower temperature than the already insulated, distantly heated, sliding. Lastly, we are not talking about pure oxycodone. The other junk in the oxycontin pill also must be heated or bipassed to heat the oxycodone. If you are vaporizing or smoking entire pills or chunks then there is plenty of other stuff that has to be heated as well that acts as a type of insulator. While this may be only a small difference compared to the last three points, it is still a factor in the obvious conclusion that the oxycontin you are smoking is not anywhere near the temperature of the flame.


Despite all this smoking is still a huge waste. I just have my doubts that you are smoking much more than fillers and oxycontin. In fact after I smoked oxy for those three days, I failed a drug test a couple days later for oxycodone but nothing else. I just think you really need to consider other factors and simple decomposition points are not going to explain much without looking at a shit ton of variables.

[dharma bum]

Anyway, I know you all know about it. I've seen all the other threads. But I'm intelligent, and I have stuff to say about this that noone has said. I'm willing to defend SWIM's ROA and in time you will see me become a veteran forum user. Scoff it you will, but here I am and I'm here to stay.

Well you made it through your first hazing. I admire your dedication to the opiophamily.

[antifox]

I hope the post before this made sense. I was high as fuck and nodded like four times during that post LOL.

[hydro chris]

The reason I posted this for my first post is simply that. People on this forum say it can't be done, it doesn't get you high, etc etc etc. When I don't get any for a few days I w/d just like I was IVing 'em. Now I understand the power of suggestion is strong, and there may be a placebo effect blah blah blah, but placebo withdrawal?

And I was skeptical at first, I really was. I thought it was the dumbest, most junky thing to do and I didn't even imagine a person could get high from it. But when SWIM tried it he said he liked it better. The high is instant and more intense than railing 'em, without the drawbacks of sticking yourself. What SWIM likes to do is split an 80 into quarters and either chase the dragon one quarter at a time, or puff one and rail the next, then save the next two for a little later.

SWIM and his friends call it sliding. Because the pill slides down the foil like a little pad of butter. Great for a quickie, you can do it in any bathroom without worrying about getting a sinus infection from railing off a dirty counter, it doesn't clog your nose and give you that telltale druggie SNORT. SWIM has many more reasons to prefer this ROA.

Anyway, I know you all know about it. I've seen all the other threads. But I'm intelligent, and I have stuff to say about this that noone has said. I'm willing to defend SWIM's ROA and in time you will see me become a veteran forum user. Scoff it you will, but here I am and I'm here to stay.

welcome bro, glad you stopped in to say hi.. im sure you have tons and tons of experience to talk about..even though it was your first post, thread or what ever, it kinda makes you sound like a tool. but lets get past that point, settle down and why dont you tell us a little about yourself my man..

[Dan Steely]

yeah man some background would be cool. what got you started how long you been at it, how old, ever had a habit, what's it take to get you high(sniffin) ever spike(if no, don't)h? ever smoke tar? ssn mothers maiden name.

when regi opens we often get a pack of youngin's thinkin they're all that so we tend to be skeptical of 1st posters tellin us whats what. not that you came off that way. actually I thought you handled yourself pretty well for gettin piled on.

[youwonhundred]

smoke weed. snort shoot or eat your pills. it is as simple as that. if you're setting fire to perfectly good pharmaceuticals, give them to someone who will appreciate them and treat them properly...



Like me:p

[OverDriven]

interesting, didn't know that....can I getta verification?

I will look it up for you. It's from a Merck report on oxycodone if I remember correctly.

This may be true, but the three times I tried smoking oxy (it was a relationship thing I needed to build with my dealer at the time) I got high. The rush was similar to IV with almost no legs, less strong, and did I mention very short lasting?

I definitely got high. It definitely eliminated my withdrawals entirely, and it's definitely as retarded as everyone says.

You have to realize that may be the decomposition temperature of oxycodone (I think someone else should verify), but you skipped several key things that could allow oxycodone to still be adsorbed. One, you are smoking it off tinfoil and the flame of the lighter is held far away from the tinfoil, which far decreases the temperature of the flame that is heating the foil which is heating the pill, which brings me to my second point that the foil is acting as an insulator and a short amount of heat is required to smoke oxy and the foil does not become the temperature of the lighter as the flame does not even touch the foil nor is it held long enough to make it the same heat as the flame. Third, everyone who smokes oxycontin slides the pill. A small burst of heat and as the pill slides the temperature quickly drops as vapors and smoke come off. The cool tinfoil, sliding, and continuous exposure to room temperature causes the pill oxycodone to be at an even lower temperature than the already insulated, distantly heated, sliding. Lastly, we are not talking about pure oxycodone. The other junk in the oxycontin pill also must be heated or bipassed to heat the oxycodone. If you are vaporizing or smoking entire pills or chunks then there is plenty of other stuff that has to be heated as well that acts as a type of insulator. While this may be only a small difference compared to the last three points, it is still a factor in the obvious conclusion that the oxycontin you are smoking is not anywhere near the temperature of the flame.


Despite all this smoking is still a huge waste. I just have my doubts that you are smoking much more than fillers and oxycontin. In fact after I smoked oxy for those three days, I failed a drug test a couple days later for oxycodone but nothing else. I just think you really need to consider other factors and simple decomposition points are not going to explain much without looking at a shit ton of variables.

One way it could possibly get you high is that the boiling/decomposed oxy particles carry un-decomposed oxy with them as they boil off. This might be one route by which it could work. Bottom line though, you are still destroying MUCH of the drug, and with such high oral bioavailability there is really no sense in smoking it.

[havok]

So even though I'm against smoking OC too... even though i thought about trying it after that MTV true life episode, but decided against it because i'm kind of a health conscious person and would not like ruining my lungs.... anyway, i am curious about something though, and maybe someone can enlighten me.

To anyone out there who's both IV'd pills and smoked pills, what provides the greater rush, my guess would be IV, even though i haven't tried that either. After that question, i'm curious, which is more dangerous... yes smoking them seems foolish and wasteful, and dangerous to the lungs... but then again how much more dangerous or less dangerous is IVing a pill? I mean... if there is still particulate left in the shot, wouldn't that get filtered out in the lungs too... also damaging your lungs? Now maybe someone in a science or health field could answer this one, but what's worse particulate collecting in the lungs through blood stream, or whatever shit lands in your lungs and sticks when u smoke a pill.

If rushes from IV and smoking are similar, I'm curious which ROA is safer. I will never argue that smoking is more wasteful, and just kind of a silly concept to me, both because you loose some to the air and heat damages some i'm sure, and then on top of that the BA is not as great, but which is more dangerous i guess is what i'm curious... and this is just assuming the rushes are somewhat similar, and that a comparison can possibly made on just the danger level.

There is no comparison. IV oxycontin is waaay better than smoking. Compared to IV, there is NO rush from smoking in my opinion. Smoking is such a waste. My tolerance from IVing was so high that I didn't feel anything the few times I tried smoking OC. The only reason I smoked it was because other people were, and they offered me some.

[antifox]

I will look it up for you. It's from a Merck report on oxycodone if I remember correctly.



One way it could possibly get you high is that the boiling/decomposed oxy particles carry un-decomposed oxy with them as they boil off. This might be one route by which it could work. Bottom line though, you are still destroying MUCH of the drug, and with such high oral bioavailability there is really no sense in smoking it.


I agree with you on that. I am just more than positive that you are taking in oxycodone and that is the primary thing getting someone high.

[Sydewayz]

Did anyone see the True Life episode on MTV about the guy that smoked his oxys, I never tried it and always wondered if anyone else did, now I know:D

[Restharrow]

I believe you.

No questions.

Welcome to Opiophile.

Please do NOT eat the big mints in the urinals.

Will

[wisegal]

i live in central fl. and although i snort & eat, i have tried it and it is actually a very popular ROA, an old connect of mine exclusively smoked his OC, all day & night

[Spork]

I like to swim in a pool filled with OC. That's my favorite ROA

[dragonnas]

So many quotables to quote... Basically here's the rundown.

1: You don't burn oxy. Not like you burn weed. It's more of a vaporization, you have to hold the flame a certain distance to get it to slide without scorching. Generic Mallys are even tougher to smoke, you might as well just eat em.

2: Smoking it is HARD. I've smoked with people and seen their whole hit float up into the air without entering their lungs. If your timing is off, if your aim with the tube is off, if your aim with the lighter is off, you just scorch the foil, miss your hit, and waste your pill. I think this is the #1 reason why novice smokers (this means you) think it doesn't work. It's a skill that requires practice, otherwise you literally burn away your pill without getting high, just like everyone on this forum says.

3: I don't deny that the high has no legs, I just prefer the rush to anything else. Sure I can eat an oxy and be high in 2 hours, for 12 hours. Or I can rail an oxy and be high in a half hour, for 6 hours. Or I can smoke one and be high right now, for 3 hours. It's just like the old Seinfeld bit, do I want fast acting, or do I want long lasting? Do I want to feel better now, or later?

Essentially the heat is far lower than the heat of the flame. High heat ruins your pill and it only works when the pill slides. I have seen other people crush the pill up, line it into a creased foil and smoke it that way also. This does not burn as long and in my opinion wastes more product. If you're going to take the time to line it up, might as well snort that shit.

In other news, a few days ago SWIM scored 10 80s on front (which is unusual because swim has been poorer than poor lately and going through unintentional detox). Smoked em all in 2 days after a number of clandestine trips to the only bathroom at work that has a lock on the door. Nodded a few times but definitely noticed that 800mg of oxy didn't go NEARLY as far as it should have gone if it was eaten or insuffiated. Probably could have stretched that out for 5 days with his habit being as low as it is now. Now swim gots to pay the dealer and he didn't get high as he should out of it.

So due to this experience SWIM may consider changing his preferred ROA, but after smoking it there's only one way up and that's through a needle. Which is out of the question for this swimmer. So we'll see I guess.

[BlueMajick]

That's a pretty generous fucking loan, assuming you pay anywhere between 50 cents to a dollar per milligram.

[harmonik]

I've never successfully gotten high off of smoking them. Maybe a small buzz once, but I can't remember for sure.. Just for shits and giggles, I tried to vaporize some liquid oxy (UNflavored) in a glass piece with a torch lighter.. I got ONE.. yes, read it, ONE vapor hit from it.. I really dont know if I felt it, I was already fucked up.

[dragonnas]

That's a pretty generous fucking loan, assuming you pay anywhere between 50 cents to a dollar per milligram.


heh that's what I sell em for. Not what I buy em for. When you've known people as long as me, a few hundred is not much in the grand scheme of things.

[ox-e]

A lot of the people down here in south florida smoke their oxy, I don't know why but I guess they assume it gets them higher. Personally I think it is just due to the rush you get. There is a different of rush between eating, snorting, smoking, plugging, injecting.

From personal experience, You lose some of the smoke doing it, but you get a quicker more intense rush. Not to mention when you smoke it, the high does not last as long. I would say out of the longest it would go from eating -> snorting -> smoking. I cannot comment for plug/inject since I have never done it.
I personally hate smoking OC's but that's what everyone here prefers to do. Me personally I will stick to eating and occasionally snorting. Nothin wrong with taking a hit or two here and there of some oxy if its for free though.

Don't hate it because you don't do it or think its a waste, Other people can say the same exact thing about you. Everyone has there own ROA.

[Nu Jerzey Devil]

I share the opinion of everyone else in that smoking Oxy is a big big waste. But to each their own and I appreciate that you are not really trying to push it on anyone else (sometimes n00bs tend to think they are the smartest thing going...), but yea I think you have gotten a good idea of what most people think about smoking them, so I am not going to repeat that.

My question to you is WHY!? Why do you do this. I know you said you have your reasons, but why??? I know it hits you faster, but in reality it doesn't take 2 hours for oxycodone to kick in when ingested orally ( well atleast if you crush your OC which I am going to assume we do automatically since we are talking about getting high). I can take oxy on an empty stomach and get hit hard 10-15 minutes later.

Railing them takes about only 5 minutes to kick in, not 15 or 30 or whatever it was you said. Not only are these highs going to last longer, you are absorbing much more oxycodone and are going to get higher and save on TIME, MONEY, DRUGS and preserve your health. When put like that it is not really a question of how quick you want the high vs. how long/strong you want the high.

So what are your reasons?? I know a lot of punk teenagers do it to look cool (for some reason i've noticed dumb teenagers will try to smoke anything.... ). I can understand you not wanting to snort them all of the time, but why not take them orally... the way they were suppose to be taken, except with crushing of course. Try it on an empty stomach and the drug will take effect very quickly.

I'm guessing you don't IV right? Well if you are all about a quick high, that is VERY short lived then I think you might want to consider using another drug, either one that can be IV'd easily or one that can produce a much better high when smoked. Heroin comes to my mind, but I am definitely not saying you should start Heroin or the needle... just giving it as an example.

So if you would please just give some insight to why this ROA for this particular drug is your *thing*, that would be great, and maybe people wouldn't rip on you as much for smoking oxy.

[antifox]

You have to realize we all know that the reason you do it is because you like it, and that your numbers for time frames are grossly overestimated. One being snorting oxycodone lasts 6 hours. Of the times i've smoked it, watched people smoked it, and talked to people while smoking it, it has lasted-said to have lasted-watched it last 75minutes-120 minutes. A couple people swear if they do enough, they can hit two and half hours. That's almost fifteen people plus myself.

If you like it beause it gest you the most high then I can understand where you are coming from, and why money factor doesn't bother you as much as it bothers us, or the wasting soooo much good stuff fact.

I think what you haven't wrapped your mind around is the health factor. Smoking pills for a short period of time- couple years- can have some real serious health consequences. i am not overexaggerating at all, and the last thing i wan to hear is how you have a fat hosptial and chronic debilitating lung diseae. Commonly caused by talc, hence the reason it was banned from cooking shit yer own shit.

[DarthStoner]

So you say that smoking OCs is the fastest ROA - besides IVing, of course. But the few times I've seen it done, and the two times I've tried it, the high wasn't all that instantaneous...

Now, of course you could say that since I haven't smoked OCs very often, my technique is probably not all that great and the primary reason for not getting a rush. However, the people that were smoking me out with the oxy also had to take a fair number of hits - the one guy who was my friend said that it usually takes him smoking half an 80 or more to get a good high.

As an oxy user whose preferance is smoking, how many mgs do you have to smoke to get off, and how many hits would you say it takes to get you high?

Based on what I've seen, if I crushed and snorted my oxy, I'd probably get high faster than my friend who smokes his - since he has to take so many hits to get high... maybe like 10-12 - that's just a guess, but it was quite a few.

Heck, in the amount of time he took to smoke his half 80, I probably could have even been feeling the effects of a crushed pill taken orally.

If a rush is achieved by how quickly and how much of the drug gets into your system at once, wouldn't the rush be severely reduced by having to take a bunch of hits? Crack, for instance, gives you a ringer with the first big hit because so much of the drug enters your system at once... I imagine the rush from crack would be much less intense if you had to take 5 hits to really feel it, and probably wouldn't result in the ear-ringing, mind flip that it produces through one hit.

Personally, I have never gotten an intense rush from smoking oxy, in fact, I can't even say for sure that I felt it, and I smoked the other half of my friend's 80. I told him I was kinda feeling good, but that was mostly out of courtesy, as I didn't want to criticize someone who was trying to be nice and help me out. I did take more after we parted ways - which was pretty much after we finished smoking - and did get high off of snorting/eating it.

I wonder if it has anything to do with how often one utilizes a certain roa? Like maybe I'd feel it more if I smoked more often - not that I plan on smoking anymore oxy - but I've told this friend ahout snorting and eating OCs, and the discrepancy in bioavailability, but he still swears by smokin em.

[Ickyuck]

So due to this experience SWIM may consider changing his preferred ROA... So we'll see I guess.

Cool.

[dragonnas]

So you say that smoking OCs is the fastest ROA - besides IVing, of course. But the few times I've seen it done, and the two times I've tried it, the high wasn't all that instantaneous...

Now, of course you could say that since I haven't smoked OCs very often, my technique is probably not all that great and the primary reason for not getting a rush. However, the people that were smoking me out with the oxy also had to take a fair number of hits - the one guy who was my friend said that it usually takes him smoking half an 80 or more to get a good high.

You were doing it wrong. And your friend probably has a high tolerance? Although if he snorted 'em he'd need half as much.

As an oxy user whose preferance is smoking, how many mgs do you have to smoke to get off, and how many hits would you say it takes to get you high?

Based on what I've seen, if I crushed and snorted my oxy, I'd probably get high faster than my friend who smokes his - since he has to take so many hits to get high... maybe like 10-12 - that's just a guess, but it was quite a few.

Heck, in the amount of time he took to smoke his half 80, I probably could have even been feeling the effects of a crushed pill taken orally.

So, hypothetically, he takes a half pill and you take a half-pill. You both use your preferred ROA. Your friend gets to "do" drugs for that much longer which is a bonus if he actually enjoys his ROA. I vaporize them because I enjoy it. It's a fun way to do oxy (fuck SWIM). I got tired of snorting stuff when I got tired of coke.

Personally, I have never gotten an intense rush from smoking oxy, in fact, I can't even say for sure that I felt it, and I smoked the other half of my friend's 80. I told him I was kinda feeling good, but that was mostly out of courtesy, as I didn't want to criticize someone who was trying to be nice and help me out. I did take more after we parted ways - which was pretty much after we finished smoking - and did get high off of snorting/eating it.

If you snort/eat as your main ROA, I may not be able to convince you to switch - that is unless we hung out IRL and I showed you my way of doing it. I'm told that one thing that brings IV users back to the needle is the pleasure of the ritual, the joy of watching the bloom of blood in the reservoir, the expectant feeling as they heat up the dope. It's the same for vaporization. Some people will never like it. After seeing all the evidence myself, I admit I'm less inclined to smoke them then I am to insuffiate. I'm not as rich as I used to be. But using foil for vaporization is still enormously fun and rewarding to me. Just yesterday I scraped out my tube and smoked that shit. I got high as hell for free.

[DarthStoner]

Not saying you're wrong about MY technique - but the guys that I was smoking with use it as their ONLY roa - they don't eat, snort, shoot, or plug em - just smoke...

They would put a half 80 on a piece of foil, light it for a sec so that it stuck to the foil a bit, and then lit it and let it slide down the foil - inhaling as it vaporized... the coolest thing about this roa IMO is the little designs they were able to make with the black trail...

Other than that, I thought it was a pretty useless method - in that there are a bunch of other ways to use oxy that are stronger, faster, and longer lasting... Personally, i'd rather stick it up my ass than smoke it again... though I've never tried that roa, so maybe it would suck too.

I'm not trying to attack you or criticize you - as far as I'm concerned you can take your pills in whatever way that floats your boat. To each his/her own, is my belief - but if you're basing sniffing oxy on experiences sniffing coke, there's a huge difference - most obviously that you don't have to do lines every 30-40 minutes, and fiend like mofo when it's gone.

[dragonnas]

I'm not trying to attack you or criticize you - as far as I'm concerned you can take your pills in whatever way that floats your boat. To each his/her own, is my belief - but if you're basing sniffing oxy on experiences sniffing coke, there's a huge difference - most obviously that you don't have to do lines every 30-40 minutes, and fiend like mofo when it's gone.

They smoke it exactly like I do. If they catch all the smoke and hold it in for 25-30 seconds, then they just have tolerances higher than mine.

I've noticed in this thread a real trend of people posting to assert that I chose to vaporize OC because I had never eaten it, never snorted it, etc etc. I've done both. Before I switched to smoking I was snorting at least an 80 every day. Some days much more than that. My monkey has been bigger and smaller in the past than it is today... Now when I get it I wanna smoke it. For more than 2 years every time I got a pill I wanted to snort it. It's just the experiences as they rack up I suppose... I've really been tired of drugs in general for a long time so I'm just looking for new ways to get high. Either I'll find them or I'll quit.

Thats what happens when you use for 15 years.

[DarthStoner]

That's cool man - I wasn't assuming that you hadn't snorted OCs before, I was just pointing out that it's much different than coke... which I know you already know :). I don't know if you've spiked before - I haven't and won't - but I'd advise not to go that route no matter how much you want a newer/better/different high...

No first hand experience here, but everyone that I now who has used the needle has only gone one way... down, and no drug is worth sacrificing everything (job, girl, dreams, money, etc) for. I'm sure there are cases of people being ok using the needle, but too often it ends badly IMO. I know you probably know this already too, I'm just saying it to promote safety - that is what this site's all about right?

[PittsburghKid]

Wow, my buddy swim logged on to find the best way to smoke 80s. He has been doing oc for over 2 years by mostly snorting and occasionally blasting them. Recently he has been getting alot of fent patches and eating the gel out of them then soaking whats left in pepsi for a day, letting it dry out and smoking it. Today when he picked up a bunch of 80's he wanted to smoke some of them. He has done it in the past by vaporizing them and always enjoyed it. While it is true the high only lasts maybe a half hour he always told me snorting an 80 and smoking half of one would wreck him for a half hour or so then mellow out for a few hours. However, after reading all of the posts on here i am going to have to tell him to reconsider just how high he actually gets. The majority vote on the site seems to be that smoking is a bit of a waste. Like ive heard several times here though... To each his own. Personally, I am sure swim may want to try it again and reconsider. Thanks everyone.
*** By the way, this was my first post... how did i do? I've spent a few days reading various posts and alot of new members get tore up for shit they post. I hope i didnt write anything that shouldnt be said on the site. Any feedback, positive or negative is appreciated.

[djbluebeard]

Wow!! This is a fucking funny thread!
It's cool though, cause I use liquid done as shampoo...
fucks me up real nice...............
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yea, anyways...

[Uncle Wiggly]

By the way, this was my first post... how did i do? I've spent a few days reading various posts and alot of new members get tore up for shit they post. I hope i didnt write anything that shouldnt be said on the site. Any feedback, positive or negative is appreciated.


Ahem... Here's some constructive criticism since you wanted to know how you did. You posted on a thread that's three months old. You really should have started with an intro thread. You also placed no paragraph breaks in your post. This makes it difficult to read.

Other than that it was fine. :rolleyes: It may be a good idea to look at the date of the last post. It's also a good idea for newbies to read the board and try to get the feel of it. I don't think you've read enough at this point.

Why in the hell would you soak Fentanyl patches in Pepsi? Try reading some of the stickies in the Fent forum. Eating the gel is just plain bad. Take a look at what it's made of. Goodbye Liver - eh? You sound fairly young so you may be able to benefit from some of the excellent harm-reduction posts on this board.

Smoking pills has been an ongoing subject of debate, and ridicule, for quite a while here on Opio. However, I read a post from a very long time and well respected member about smoking an OC and passing out in his dinner plate. Different strokes for different folks.

P.S. Welcome to Opiophile. I hope your stay here is a pleasant one.

[GimpLeg]

there shouldn't be a debate about it. from what I've seen, it works. albeit, low BA, but apparently it hits hard and quick. I've never done it, but I watched a show on it, where one guy was smoking 80's, and the other part of the show was a girl doing roxi's (I think she was smoking them too, but I can't remember).