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L0VE
06-17-2006, 07:46 PM
I got 12 10mg dispersable tablets of methadone ("methadose") on tuesday and I started taking them on Wednesday. Well I didn't know that they had to be dissolved in water, so since Wednesday I've been swallowing them. About 10 minutes after swallowing one on Wed. I started breaking out in hives on my neck, legs, and arms, my neck swelled. Then I swallowed another one. Around 8:00 that night I took another one (30mg all together) and then I got a rash on my stomach. I then woke up that morning and my eyes were bloodshot. I swallowed 20mg on Thurseday and 20mg on Friday. Then I took a half at 6 and took the other half, properly, in water about a half hour ago.

My question is, is it serious if you swallow the dispersable tablets? And are those symptoms severe? I'm really scared right now (because I can't even think), all I wanted to do was just get off oxys and not withdrawal, too bad, and get clean. I feel like I just made things even worse.

Next question:

Will I withdrawal from the methadone, if I only took it for 4 days?

And, is it normal to have vision problems on methadone and feel kinda confused?! I just want to get clean and not have to waste money anymore and get my life back and if I'm babbling or not making sense it's because I'm not feeling "right" at the moment. :confused:

Coddfish
06-17-2006, 07:56 PM
I have never heard of anyone getting those pills, so can't help there.
But no, you will not have wd's from done with the schedule you just laid out. That's not to say you won't feel any discomfort, but it shouldn't be from methadone.
I found blurry vision to be quite common, and also often found my thinking muddled. I got better.

jwalm
06-17-2006, 08:01 PM
one night i indulged way to much with methadone- i went way overboard given my tolerance-i also ate way too much oxycodone that night

the next day for about a 3 hour period i could barely see-i was quite scared:confused:

Hammilton
06-17-2006, 08:29 PM
Of course you can eat methadose. Why couldn't you? I've never once heard of anyone dissolving them in water first. Why bother? Theres plenty of fluids in your stomach and they dissolve incredibly fast anyway. Might as well get them down without having to taste them.

If you've only taken it for 4 days I'd sincerely doubt you'd have any sort of an extended withdrawal. Should be a normal WD from whatever you had used for a long time previously. It won't come on until much later than usual, though.

You SHOULD NOT take methadone again, though. SELL THEM, THROW THEM AWAY, ANYTHING. You're experiencing an allergic reaction from something in the pill. Its not worth fucking around with. A rash on the outside could mean all sorts of things on the inside. Its possible that your throat will close- and no one here wants that. Methadone is not known for causing allergies but for those who do experience them, it can be pretty bad.

Tar_Baby
06-17-2006, 09:50 PM
Of course you can eat methadose. Why couldn't you? I've never once heard of anyone dissolving them in water first. Why bother? Theres plenty of fluids in your stomach and they dissolve incredibly fast anyway. Might as well get them down without having to taste them.

If you've only taken it for 4 days I'd sincerely doubt you'd have any sort of an extended withdrawal. Should be a normal WD from whatever you had used for a long time previously. It won't come on until much later than usual, though.

You SHOULD NOT take methadone again, though. SELL THEM, THROW THEM AWAY, ANYTHING. You're experiencing an allergic reaction from something in the pill. Its not worth fucking around with. A rash on the outside could mean all sorts of things on the inside. Its possible that your throat will close- and no one here wants that. Methadone is not known for causing allergies but for those who do experience them, it can be pretty bad.

They are made to be dissolved and drank

Phluck
06-18-2006, 11:19 AM
They're meant to be dissolved so that the clinic can give out liquid instead of a pill, which is much easier to sneak out. If the pill dissolves in water, it will dissolve in your stomach, and have the exact same effect.

Any adverse reaction is certainly not caused by neglecting to dissolve it.

Remember grade 9 science class? Dissolving something in water is not a chemical reaction, so you've got exactly the same substance, and it's going to do exactly the same thing.

poppy
06-18-2006, 11:58 AM
Hope you feel better today. I agree with phluck's post.
Perhaps its an allergy that has nothing to do with the methadose
(I've never come accross methadose in the uk, nor whatever the methadone wafer things I've heard some of you mention in the past. Mostly our methadone comes in injectable amps or mixture(medicine). We used to get pills but not dissolvable ones, well I suppose technically they were dissolvable cos the reason they switched us to mixture was cos so many folk were banging them.)

Lil_Miss_Brownstone
06-18-2006, 12:15 PM
The pills I get (from someone with a script, cancer patiant i think) are "methadose" wafers, 40 mg with a cross so you could break them into 4 10 mg doses easily. I have never dissolved them in water, I chew mine up and wash them down with water. Seems to hit faster then just swallowing them, but i have swallowed them whole or broken into quarters with no issues.

Sounds like you have an allergy. Nothing to do with the method of ingestion.

BTW...after reading the meth and chocolate thread on here, i took a 1/4 cup or so of brown sugar with 2 40 mg wafers the other day....got at lest 2x as high as usual! nodded for several hours. meth has never givin me nod before, even 4 wafers! good info on here, thnx a bunch!

candy
06-19-2006, 04:07 PM
Sounds like you had a more severe allergic reaction. This should not have anything to do with whether or not they were disolved or swallowed. But, you should be careful about taking Methadone. The fact that you had swelling in your neck can be serious. Generally allergic reaction like that are a histamine response which is what causes the rash, itching, and respiratory problems(swelling of the airways.) And although your response may not have been life-threatening this time, the next time could be.

I get the same way on Codeine with my heart rate going really high, but don't have that reaction to other opiates, synthetic or not.

And as someone said, doubtful you would have any withdrawals after 4 days. In some, it takes 4 days, especially those on Maintenance doses to just get the relief they need.

HeidiW
06-19-2006, 05:01 PM
Candy is right.:cool:

blackdog
06-19-2006, 08:42 PM
also methadose will cause you to feel lightheaded and cause dizziness if you stand up too quick or jump up outta bed or get up too quick off the couch.or bend over to say lace your shoes and then to get up to quickly,for some reason.hell one time i was listening to the radio and something so fucking funnie was said and/or done and i laughed so fucking hard
i thought i was going to pass out i was driving a mack dump truck and and after getting into the hard laugh i went blind like a tv screen with no picture(there here!!!!)and got some ringing in my ears all i could do was try to breathe regular so as to get oxygen and blood back into my head. and i was like
ok hold the steering wheel straight and breathe come on dont pass out ..cant pull over cant see cmon ...back to earth ...
ok thank you lord and as soon as i got home i read the precautions and warnings that come from the druggist with the prescription and low and behold.i thought i new everything . well almost. true storie!! ya can't make this shit up!
peace da/dawgg:cool:

Canis aureus
06-20-2006, 01:48 AM
Instead of METHADONE which has possibly greatest oral bio-availability in the opioid family. Does anyone know opiate/opioid with greater oral bio-availability, than methadone?

And, methadone is very strong opioid... If one hasn't tolerance, 10mg's is yet much..

L0VE
06-20-2006, 11:32 AM
Thanks, I'm not taking them anymore as of today. They're messing my vision up too much and making me feel confused (like I can't think). Besides it's my 7th day of being clean from oxycontin so I should be good. I just hope I don't get cravings for oc's now.:)

shaunclo
06-20-2006, 12:01 PM
I just hope I don't get cravings for oc's now.:)

Thatll be the day

Hammilton
06-20-2006, 05:39 PM
Wow, I never new my meds were meant to be dissolved and drank. No one ever told me. Don't hardly need to for 10mg pills, they pretty small. THat might make it hit harder, though.

Hammilton.

nursing a toothache

zombiewoof23
06-20-2006, 11:28 PM
Candy is right.:cool:

Welcome back Heidi! I hope all has been well your way.

Badly Drawn Girl
06-22-2006, 01:00 AM
I got 12 10mg dispersable tablets of methadone ("methadose") on tuesday and I started taking them on Wednesday. Well I didn't know that they had to be dissolved in water, so since Wednesday I've been swallowing them.

I've taken a lot of Methadose in the past and I never heard that it had to be dissolved. It had the exact same effect as the regular Meth pills so I'm going to say that you are having a reaction not related to that part. It must be the meth in general that your body is disagreeing with.

My experience is that Methadone makes me foggy, and my vision is blurry until I get stable on it. It also has a tendency to make me cranky for no good reason. The only good thing I have to say about it is it's cheap, easy to find, and it last a long time.

Good luck to you!

HeidiW
07-27-2006, 06:29 PM
Welcome back Heidi! I hope all has been well your way.
Woof, it has been. I stopped bangin' methadone. I have no veins left, NONE. I feel like a complete fucking idiot for not listening to those on this site who tried to warn me. Some fools never learn . . . . .:) Thanks for hollarin' at me. (Notice my hillbilly, Kansas-backwoods slang talk) Hehe.:D

jackflash
07-27-2006, 10:54 PM
I got 12 10mg dispersable tablets of methadone ("methadose") on tuesday and I started taking them on Wednesday. Well I didn't know that they had to be dissolved in water, so since Wednesday I've been swallowing them. About 10 minutes after swallowing one on Wed. I started breaking out in hives on my neck, legs, and arms, my neck swelled. Then I swallowed another one. Around 8:00 that night I took another one (30mg all together) and then I got a rash on my stomach. I then woke up that morning and my eyes were bloodshot. I swallowed 20mg on Thurseday and 20mg on Friday. Then I took a half at 6 and took the other half, properly, in water about a half hour ago.

My question is, is it serious if you swallow the dispersable tablets? And are those symptoms severe? I'm really scared right now (because I can't even think), all I wanted to do was just get off oxys and not withdrawal, too bad, and get clean. I feel like I just made things even worse.

Next question:

Will I withdrawal from the methadone, if I only took it for 4 days?

And, is it normal to have vision problems on methadone and feel kinda confused?! I just want to get clean and not have to waste money anymore and get my life back and if I'm babbling or not making sense it's because I'm not feeling "right" at the moment. :confused:
No, you won't be addicted in 4 days with 12 tablets. As far as your rash or hives go, I have had the same kind of reaction 3 or 3 times over the last 25 years when I would use a new or different batch (lot) of codiene. Taking an over the counter of benadryl would bring relief in ahalf hour. It probably was due to other chemicals in the manufacturing process. Don't worry about it. Peace and happiness, jackflash

robojunkie
07-28-2006, 06:37 AM
I'm not so sure you won't feel done withrawal from a few days. If you already have an OC habit you obviously have to go through wd's someway. I think just taking done even a couple of days (depending on dose but you said you took 30 mg the first day) will extend the wd's just like you were done a while. The half life is still the half life and as such since it takes so long to clear you are continually decreasing the plasma levels for at least a week or more whereas with opiates you have pretty much cleared them in 3 days. I mean I don't think it would be as severe as if you had been on mmt for years obviously but it will drag on. One detox I went to once had a mixed done/clonidine protocol (15, 10, 5 mg then none with clonidine for 5 or 6 days) and I had to stay for the 12 step indoctrination stuff. I still felt crappy when I left ater two weeks. It definitely does lengthen (but de-intensify somewhat) the wd's, imo.

shaunclo
07-28-2006, 12:36 PM
I'm not so sure you won't feel done withrawal from a few days. If you already have an OC habit you obviously have to go through wd's someway. I think just taking done even a couple of days (depending on dose but you said you took 30 mg the first day) will extend the wd's just like you were done a while. The half life is still the half life and as such since it takes so long to clear you are continually decreasing the plasma levels for at least a week or more whereas with opiates you have pretty much cleared them in 3 days. I mean I don't think it would be as severe as if you had been on mmt for years obviously but it will drag on. One detox I went to once had a mixed done/clonidine protocol (15, 10, 5 mg then none with clonidine for 5 or 6 days) and I had to stay for the 12 step indoctrination stuff. I still felt crappy when I left ater two weeks. It definitely does lengthen (but de-intensify somewhat) the wd's, imo.

I concur, once you go thru w/d's at all, it is SO VERY easy to go thru them again in a shorter amount of time. I can go on a 2 day H binge and suffer atleast 2-3 days with minor, but still crappy-ass shit w/d's symptoms.