IV Morphine, The Golden Standard- How do you rate it euphoria wise?

[euphoricontin17]

Hey everyone, swim has only done morphine a few times in his life and it was insnuffilated those times. Swim recently experienced IV dilaudid for the first time only but a few days ago. It was needless to say the best thing that has ever happened in swim entire life. Well not in a subjective sense, but rather it was the best FEELING swim has experienced although he may have been better off never getting to feel the greatness of it, but he promises himself he won't let it get out of control.

The reason for this thread is that morphine seems to be the best known legal opiate and has been around for year and years but there is only eight threads on here and none discuss IV morphine.

So, I am wondering how to you guys compare IV morphine to say IV hydromorphone,oxymorphone,dope, even IV oxycodone. How does the euphoria rate compared to those? The rush? The duration? I always thought the reason why there are so few experiences with morph on here is because the BA sucks for other than IV route and if you if your probley banging dope. Maybe I am wrong though, and maybe morphine just sucks and that's why no one does it? Any insight you guys could offer would be great as I have very limited experience with morphine and would love to learn more about what it's like.

Thanks!

[Narkotikon]

Things I've IV'd in my lifetime:

Morphine
Heroin
Dilaudid (hydromorphone)
Suboxone (buprenorphine)

How I'd rate them, from best to worst:

Dilaudid (great rush, no legs. Not my favorite...I like something to last a while).

Morphine AND Heroin (it may be that I've just not had really great heroin, but to me they're about equal. If given the choice, I'd take pharm morphine over street heroin, just because I think they're about the same, and I like them equally, and because I would know exactly how much morphine I'd be taking).

Suboxone (pretty much sucked and not worth the effort IMO).

All in all, if I had to choose:

Morphine
Dilaudid
Heroin
Subs

Edit: I've never done Opana (Oxymorphone), so I can't comment on that. I've sniffed and done oral oxycodone, but haven't done it in years. I just refuse to pay the outrageous prices for oxy when I can pay much less for morphine via pods or seeds. I've never IV'd oxy, although honestly if I had an 80 in front of me, I probably would try it now. I think the main reason I didn't IV oxy is because I hadn't IV'd anything at the time I was doing it, and also because I knew it had a great oral BA, so why bother.

[Ickyuck]

In a clinical, hospital setting i've been Iv'd morphine and dilaudid. Dilauid fucking beat the hell outta the morphine. Morphine sorta makes me sleepy, makes me wanna get off the stretcher and wander around with a goofy lopsided grin. Of course the nurses always usher me in and put up the railings so I don't fall off.

Dilaudid was a different fucking story. I was in so much pain all I saw was white starbursts. The nurse gave it to me without telling me what it was. Suddenly, my back arched, I moaned (Yup, like an orgasm), and lay there making inaudible noises. That was because someone had suddenly painted the ER gold and built a shrine to buddha, and shiva was there too in the corner, arms akimbo and all. But no really, being IV'd dilaudid makes ye fell like you've been injected with a new life.

IV heroin never gave me much of a rush. I feel it but end up feeling sorta distorted.

[Duckfeet]

When I once or twice had both: morphine didn't hold a candle to dialaudid...yeah if you're sick, and you're an IV junky, morphine is not to be dissed...but good heroin always was way better...I guess I'd rather have liquid morphine than Oxcodone *pills* that I had to crush up, but, well, it's more the name itself, it's so historical and produces drama just when it's mentioned...and I so wish they'd allow it for addicts in this country...but no go...

[harmonik]

Morphine is in it's own class how I see it.
Dilaudid/H is a shitload like the morphine rush and so those naturally go together in my mind, although I prefer the chesty euphoria balloon feeling that Oxy IV gives me to the muscle melting-gasm that morph gives me.

The novelty of the histamine reaction (pins and needles, hot face, red) makes me like Morph. quite a bit.. :)

H (Rush, legs)
Oxy (Rush, legs)
Dilaudid (Rush)
Morph. (Rush, hist., legs)
Bupe. (No rush or legs, just the opiated feeling behind the eyes/in nose)

But still not as good as the others!

[OverDriven]

there is only eight threads on here and none discuss IV morphine.


There are only 8 in the last 30 days. There are HUNDREDS of threads in the morphine forum. To see them, you ahve to go down to the bottom left where it says "Display options". Then drop down the box that says "From the" and choose "Beginning". Then click the "Show Threads" button and hundreds of threads will show up. This works for all the sections here. You must have thought that opiophile is really inactive or something...

[Poppylvr]

When I could no longer easily get my drug of choice, oxycodone, I switched to IV morphine. It was OK, about a 7 on the 1-10 scale. For me, oxycodone is 10 and codiene is 1. Iv'e actually been clean of anything good (I'm an orange devil user right now) since before oxycontin hit the world. For that I'm grateful. I probably would have OD'd on that, chasing the euphoria.....

[Larkin]

the first time i did a big fat shot of morphine those pins and needles made me think i did something wrong and i was dying. My entire body turned bright red, i am super white. and my skin felt tight. when i get good dope that gives me the pins it feels good because it has the nice feel of dope. when i had morphine and dope, it wasnt a contest, i did the dope and saved the m for when i was sick. When you are sick, those pins and needles are almost as comforting as the "dope blanket"

[digby]

In a clinical, hospital setting i've been Iv'd morphine and dilaudid. Dilauid fucking beat the hell outta the morphine. Morphine sorta makes me sleepy, makes me wanna get off the stretcher and wander around with a goofy lopsided grin. Of course the nurses always usher me in and put up the railings so I don't fall off.

Dilaudid was a different fucking story. I was in so much pain all I saw was white starbursts. The nurse gave it to me without telling me what it was. Suddenly, my back arched, I moaned (Yup, like an orgasm), and lay there making inaudible noises. That was because someone had suddenly painted the ER gold and built a shrine to buddha, and shiva was there too in the corner, arms akimbo and all. But no really, being IV'd dilaudid makes ye fell like you've been injected with a new life.

IV heroin never gave me much of a rush. I feel it but end up feeling sorta distorted.

Ickyuck, your post just put me back in time when I watched this DVD that had several short films. One was about a person transported to a magical realm where Gods and Goddesses walked back and forth, covered with jeweled red rubies and beautiful white clothing. Of course, it turns out in the end that the person was in a car wreck, was in surgery loaded to the gills, and the Gods and Goddesses where doctors and nurses in white surgical smocks covered in not rubies but blood. What a striking film, and all the time the most famous solo from the opera Turandot sung by Pavarotti was playing in the background.
I can't remember the name of the DVD and have been looking for it ever since.

Thanks for reminding me of one of the most hauntingly beautiful films I have ever seen.

[lotus]

i loved morphine tho out here there never seem'd to be many people that were in my boat.

liquid vs pills felt nearly felt like the difference between heroin and morphine to me. i'm positive i'd be hard pressed to tell the difference if blind folded, actually. hospital settings not included - friggen slow push.

i have to agree with nark except on subs (never done them) and the order.

and oxy - that's the one i never got....never made a blip big enough to put it in this catagory.

[bodytec]

when I can pay much less for morphine via pods or seeds.


are you saying that pods and seeds turn into morphine in your system? Or what exactly?
I don't really know anything about pods or seeds,but i could be sold on them if this is true.

[doctor diesel]

are you saying that pods and seeds turn into morphine in your system? Or what exactly?
I don't really know anything about pods or seeds,but i could be sold on them if this is true.

Oh my goodness!
Pods contain opium, which in turn contains up to 15% morphine (if yer lucky) along with a shitload of other alkaloids. Powder the dried pods, infuse with hot water, then filter, and you have 'pod tea', which can make you feel much better if you drink it!
Seeds come from inside the pods, and if they've been rattled around sufficiently, and the pods have been bruised, traces of opium can transfer to the surface of the seeds. This can then be washed off the seeds in the process of making 'seed tea'.
The seeds themselves don't actually contain any alkaloids.

:D

[OverDriven]

are you saying that pods and seeds turn into morphine in your system? Or what exactly?
I don't really know anything about pods or seeds,but i could be sold on them if this is true.

You might want to stop by the papaver somniferum section of the forum.

[Narkotikon]

are you saying that pods and seeds turn into morphine in your system? Or what exactly?
I don't really know anything about pods or seeds,but i could be sold on them if this is true.

Yeah, definitely stop by the P. Somn. forum. Basically, you can get pods, grind them up, and either mix them with juice or water or yogurt or something like that, and do it that way (that's called the grit n' chug method, and usually lasts longer, but has a slow peak time, but you don't waste anything), or you can steep the grounds in warm / hot water with a little bit of lemon juice, strain, and drink as a tea. If you do multiple steeps, you don't waste that much, but outside of a lab, perfect extraction is nearly impossible.

Basically it's the same as opium. It's not opium because opium is just the dried latex of the P. Somn. plant, and this is made with the whole plant, but essentially it's the same. Same alkaloids and all. And yes, morphine is the main component. It also contains codeine, papaverine, noscapine, narcoteine, thebaine, etc., all in smaller amounts.

You can do the same with seeds, as long as you have a viable seed source (the seeds have to be dirty in that they contain the alkaloids and are sort of unwashed), where it's as simple as putting the seeds in an empty gallon jug, filling it up about 3 inches or so above the seed line with cold water, and shaking the hell out it. The seeds, for the most part, will settle to the bottom, and you drink the yellow straw colored liquid off the top.

If I were given a choice between pods and seeds, I'd always choose the pods, but seeds DO definitely work. And as long as they're not too expensive, and your tolerance isn't too high, it's usually cheaper than pods. When you get a massive tolerance though, and the seed prices are too high, it's usually better to go the pod route because it's cheaper in most cases. It's all the same thing though, you just have to use more seeds than pods.

A WARNING: Pod / seed w/d is like opium w/d. Since it has a longer half-life than morphine alone or heroin or oxy or something like that, the w/d will last longer (more than 3-7 days in most cases). It's basically like heroin w/d, but longer.

But, yes, pods are definitely cheaper than oxy.

[spider]

Swim would give morph a 6/10. He likes the P's n N's, but it don't have no legs for him. Morph doesn't really give him a euphoria either, just a get well card. The easiest thing swim has access to is Oxy, and right now it's the DOC. Going to try H on for size soon, trying to broaden his horizons.

[StackBundles]

I have had available to me throughout my career as a dopefiend just about every pharmaceutical opiod in pill form that is available.

As far as morphine goes I have had just about every brand and formulation out there that there is. Besides any instant release formulation, Kadian is my favorite, followed by the Endo brand MSContin.

Euphoria wise, I find that morphine is a little above average, although it's hard for me to rate euphoria nowadays because I don't really get all happily geeked off of opiates/oids anymore like I used to.

In reference to your other thread regarding smack being the King of the Hill... I started a thread a while back titled IMO Nothing Compares to Good Heroin, well because nothing does. The dope on the street in Detroit has been wicked the past few years. It makes everything else pale in comparison. As I mentioned in the thread I started, the intensity of the diesel in Detroit may have to do with the presence of other derivitives being present such as 6MAM and others more potent than Diacetyl itself. The euphoria produced by a fat shot of this shit would be enough to make a death row inmate wanna' give the warden a blowjob.

As far as other opiates/oids... Oxycodone used to be okay... I find it totally useless nowadays. Same with Hydromorphone. I had a Dilly script a few years ago and used to love them, although still never held them up to dope, and recently I scored a bunch of the Malli and Roxane 4's and was actually pissed. I did almost 25 in two days. The rush is nice, but the buzz... Pshhh. Useless.

Cont.

[StackBundles]

Oxymorphone is nice, good rush, decent duration, and a good dose of euphoria. I would put Opana IR pretty close to H if I had to score it.

Fent... Now that shit is over rated. Big time. Serious sedation. Total lack of euphoria. People toot fents horn all the time, but I think they are in love with it's potency. And, yes, I have had access to I.V. fent through a home hospice worker... So I am not not doing it correctly. I have tore down hundreds of patches. OVERRATED.

Oxycodone = overated also, at least IMO.

I.V. drugs in general are overated. This shit is way too romanticized and glamourized. I don't make out with Jesus or cum magical rainbows everytime I get high. I hate that shit. Hell, I think that warm, fuzzy blanket shit is tired...
That's just me though. I mean, don't get me wrong, It feels good, I do it, but it ain't the edge of the universe.

Anyways, yeah, morphine is pretty decent euphoria wise. I used to get fairly happy when I did a fat shot back in the day, and like anything, the magic wears off.

Stack Diesel

[barbiegal]

Gotta disagree with you on the Fent SB. I get a great euphoria from it and it gets me pretty peppy. I cheek mine or put the gel on my gums. To each his own.:musik010:

[Iggy]

I would rate it B-. Not bad but not the best. I used to get the tiny white morphine shaker tabs that would dissolve instantly in water. Not being able to tolerate the pins and needles very well I wasn't able to shoot as much as I wanted in a single shot, so I would do two or three in a row.

[Michael]

I dont like the pins and needles much.
I've IV'd a lot of Oxycontin, Morphine and Turned Morphine.
I guess I like Homebake first, then oxy, then morphine.

On its own, I find it too pins & needlesy and untamed :P
Turning it in my opinion refines it, and makes it smoother and more generally pleasurable.

everynow and then I'll do a bad cook and the dope will come out still being a large % of morphine, and I get subjected to a pins & needles with histamine attack, and my faces gets flushed and I feel like my hair is standing on end

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

a C+
too sedating, not enough Euphoria
GOOD duration though

[Woody Bear]

Morphine gives pins and needles due to histamine release. But if you inject it very slowly, like they do in hospital, then you don't get pins and needles. So if you like it, then shoot normally, but if you don't, then push the plunger very, very slowly.

When I was in hospital and had it for the first time, it took the nurse a couple of minutes to do 2 x 5 mg shots into my IV line. I had a tiny pinch of pins and needles when she went a bit too fast, but no where near what's talked about here, where people push the whole shot in a second.

[Moorefeen]

I personally love the P's and N's myself...Wifey too. Gimme my three 60's in one rig and I'm off onya, walkin round the house lookin like someone just dipped me in red dye. I for one love the M (obviously) and I've been on about every prescription narc on the planet in the last ten years since I broke my back, with the exception of Palladone. And you can believe it woulda been mine if they wouldn't have been pussies. As far as rush I would say the M is just as gravy for me as any of the D we see around here, and I know what I'm puttin in me too.

MF