opana iv vs oc oral

[Hiems]

Whats everyone think the equivalent conversion is of oxymorphone iv to oxycodone oral. Like 10 mg oxymorphone would equal how much oxycodone oral? I know some of the chart and some people say that 10 mg oxyM iv is more than an 80 mg oxy but from my experience (havent dont oc in some time) I remmember 80 mg oral/snorted oc being a lot stronger than 10 mg oxyM iv...

[Raekwon]

Last time i checked i think 1mg oxymorphone IV was like 10mg oxycodone oral or something like that.

[LongKissGoodNite]

There are opiate converters online .. Ill edit when I find one

Actually here is a thread here discussing the same thing .. and advices on where to find one ;0)

http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=12775

[youwonhundred]

JFGI

good advice, right there. :p

[Woody Bear]

http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi gives the figures as:
10 mg Oxymorphone (IV/IM) = 200 mg Oxycodone (Oral)

[Synack]

Should be
1mg IV oxymorphone = 10mg PO oxymorphone
10mg PO oxymorphone = 20mg PO oxycodone
1mg IV oxymorphone = 20mg PO oxycodone.

But keep in mind, when you IV the opana IR's - a ton seems to be left in the cotton...

[Hiems]

Yeah I have seen the conversion tables and calculators and whatnot but not only do they vary from site to site, I do not agree with them. I mean c'mon 1 mg oxym iv equal 20 OXYC po? From past dreams SWIM would say it is closer to 1 mg oxym iv = 5-7.5 mg oxyc po. Also from past dreams SWIM believes that most of the oxym from opana ir is removed after the first wash. SWIM would say 75% is taken after the first 1 cc wash. The 2nd wash (also w/ 1 cc) is not even nearly 40% of the first. SWIM doesn't know, as he hasn't had dreams of oxyc consistently in a long time, but recalls that 20 mg on top of PP would lead to dreams of nodding. I guess this just goes to show how much PPs really fuck up one's tolerance, even after keeping the dose of PP steady for YEARS. All the more reason I advice those new to PPs do not make regular use of this substance. They raise tolerance to other ops/pharms to a different degree than anything else, with maybe the exception of done. Christ, before using PPs regularly, 20 mg oxyc would give SWIM very nice dreams of nods. Now without first taking PPs, even 50 mg oxym iv does not do the job, and this is with a relatively low amount of PPs (5 jumbs maximum a day). 30 mg of oxym is needed in addition to the pps in order to MAYBE dream of nodding. Anyways, sorry to get off topic, but those new to pps please consider that using them regularly will lead to not being able to get off on any other opi without first taking the pps. Keep it to a minimum. I was even able to still get off on 20 mg oxy if I only did pps once or twice a week, but once daily, there is no turning back. I know some would assume it's the same as oral m, but I really think the mix of alkaloids (maybe one gets converted in vivo to something very strong) - either way something in it leads to much more tolerance.

[youwonhundred]

As I said once before...

Holy paragraph breaks, Batman.

Just my opinion here, but most of those conversions are for analgesia, not getting high. I may be wrong, but I just don't see docs taking into account how high your meds will make you and prescribing accordingly. They are called "pain medications" for a reason. Actually, if you look on em, all the good effects of opiates are listed as side effects.

[Deadfiend]

Remember cross tolerance.......

[Woody Bear]

Heres the results of my estimated conversion between 5 jumbs maximum a day and oxycodone.

Assuming each jumbo, excluding seeds weighs 4 grams, that's 20 grams poppy pods per day.
Now assuming the pods average 0.75% morphine, that's (20 g x 0.0075) = 0.15 g morphine

The opiate conversion website http://www.globalrph.com/narcotic.cgi gives 150 mg morphine (oral) = 100 mg oxycodone (oral).

Now as oxycodone has such a good oral bioavailability (89% IIRC) then taking it IV would only increase it a bit, so perhaps 90 mg IV oxycodone would be equivalent to drink tea from 5 jumbos.

So it's not too surprising that 50 mg IV oxycodone doesn't do the job for you, as it's about half your daily dose of pod tea.

[Hiems]

I did not say 50 mg iv oxyC doesnt do the job, i said 50 mg oxyM does not do the job. Well it takes away wds, but no nod or any kind of lasting high other than the rush.

[bodytec]

Actually, if you look on em, all the good effects of opiates are listed as side effects.


hahaha,yea,remember way back when, when those side effects were the tell tale sign of good pills, when we didn't know all the names and just decided to take some pills if its side effects were what we desired.
"...drowsiness,dizziness,impares ability to drive a car...yea,man,these are good!":D

[youwonhundred]

hahaha,yea,remember way back when, when those side effects were the tell tale sign of good pills, when we didn't know all the names and just decided to take some pills if its side effects were what we desired.
"...drowsiness,dizziness,impares ability to drive a car...yea,man,these are good!":D

Yeah those were the days. Back before google. haha