What's Your Oxy Tolerance?

[euphoricontin17]

Hey everyone, I was with my good friend " swim " again last night. He started thinking about tolerance as he was busting up his 80's like usual. As swim took a little trip down memory lane by pulling out his OC photo album ( yes, I know it pathetic, but everytime swim does oc's with friends, he makes sure to take pictures of the good times so he can hold on to his memories lol ) he remembered how he use to feel when he first got in to oc's. Swim remembers looking at one 80mg pill in awe and thinking ( wow how can they fit so much fun, goodness, and happiness into one little pill. Swim looks back on those days with much nostalgia. You know, the good old days- before things were lost, lives hurt, self-confidence destroyed- back when it was somewhat innocent to say. Then swim looks down at his current pile- gone are the days when swim can do an 80 and be flying all night- he sadly stares at the 480mg pile he now needs just to get a decent buzz going. Man, he thinks, where did the time go??

Anyway, I posted this thread mainly to get an idea of just how high tolerances can get and what my fellow oxyheads are getting up to. I also posted it to ask if the effects have deminished at all for any of you? It seems for swim that after doing oc's so much, regardless of how much he does now, it will no longer last for more than 2 hours, even when swim does 6 80's?! It is as if no matter how much swim does, he can only catch a light buzz with little euphoria. It sucks. Hopefully if swim takes a break the good times will come back for oc's. And swim is currently on a hydromorphone kick anyway after experiencing it for the first time. What was strange was that swim knows cross-tolerance occurs with opi's but the dilaudid brought back the high he could no longer get with oc's. Swim knows d's are stronger but it felt like his first time all over again. Swim can't wait to try opana. Sorry for rambling but if you could, post your tolerance- what it takes you to feel it, and what it takes to get you where you need to be. Not only for oc's but any opi you may like. Thanks!

P.S. Swim is currently at 240mg crushed oral to feel it and 480-560mg to get where he want's to be ( and he usually still doesn't get there haha )

[okie dokie]

P.S. Swim is currently at 240mg crushed oral to feel it and 480-560mg to get where he want's to be ( and he usually still doesn't get there haha )

OUCH!!! that sucks! hope ya have a steady supply and alot of $$

[LongKissGoodNite]

When I was bad it was 240 - 320 .. that was going on for about a year and a half, about 150 to 200 bucks a day. decent income .. snorted through my nose .. Sometimes I think heroin would have been a better choice .. but then I realize its all relative and that I woulda been up that high on heroin too .. so whats the difference.

Now I can get a months supply for exactly $185.00 USD .. but I dont get high .. whatever :rolleyes:

[kellyblue]

Prescribed? 120 mgs. a day. Actual "use" and tolerance? Closer to 400 mgs.- you do the math... they don't last quite as long as they used to, LOL!

[mrb0jangles]

Damn thats a high tolerance. I've been using opiates (mainly oxycodone) for a little over three years and my tolerance is actually pretty low. Due to being a poor college student and having to scrape up money to get high.

Takes me about 80mg snorted to get a good buzz...40mg to get well

And 60mg IV to get fucked up.

[nuts4roxies]

swim mainly takes roxie 30s and usally feels lifted around 150mg(oral) and 45-60mg(snorted) swim has never pushed more then 210mg(oral)

[BrokenPens]

With me, it takes about 30 mg to feel it and about 60 to really get fucked up (right now). I'm quite skinny though so I think that has something to do with it. I also don't go through w/d for some reason (from anything, I quit smoking cold turkey with no problem) so if I notice my tolerance is higher than I'd like it to be, one week it was taking me about 100 mg to get high, I'll go a couple days without it and my tolerance'll drop to normal :) God I'm lucky.

[nuts4roxies]

With me, it takes about 30 mg to feel it and about 60 to really get fucked up (right now). I'm quite skinny though so I think that has something to do with it. I also don't go through w/d for some reason (from anything, I quit smoking cold turkey with no problem) so if I notice my tolerance is higher than I'd like it to be, one week it was taking me about 100 mg to get high, I'll go a couple days without it and my tolerance'll drop to normal :) God I'm lucky.


Your mad lucky i remember when i first started taking roxies i was able to stay at getting fucked up from 30 mgs for mad long like 3 weeks or so of everyday use and then it just stopped working and my tolerance shot up as for stopping a couple days that has never worked for me maybe if i stop for a week my first dose would be mad low but anything after and im right back to where i was

[asplinteredfawn]

Can someone explain the appeal of paying large amounts of money for 3 pills for what you would pay 60$ tops and get a better high? Heroin I'm talking about. Not to crush your love of OC's I just truely DON'T get it. Enlighten me. Cos' I have to shoot 3 80's to feel anything last time I did and it was like a 190$ shot!? ( This is all fiction )

[SHELLEY]

When I was bad it was 240 - 320 .. that was going on for about a year and a half, about 150 to 200 bucks a day. decent income .. snorted through my nose .. Sometimes I think heroin would have been a better choice .. but then I realize its all relative and that I woulda been up that high on heroin too .. so whats the difference.

Now I can get a months supply for exactly $185.00 USD .. but I dont get high .. whatever :rolleyes:

heroin is at least cheaper and it's a good rush every time
if you're gonna have a high tolerance, might as well be tolerant to the good stuff
plus it's easier to snort or shoot (unless you get that west coast tar/slime whateverthefuck)

[LongKissGoodNite]

Can I be honest? For a long time I was afraid of it because of the stigma .. but then there came a day when I was hurting and my connect needed to wait on the OCs .. so He said . 'are you hurting' me 'yea bad' so we went to his place and smoked some tar .. and the thing Is .. which is why i didnt think it mattered and it was all relative was it didnt get me high .. I mean i smoke a SHIT LOAD hit after hit and nothing .. just a faint background buzz .... so i guess oxy and heroin are close? Or maybe tar heroin SUCKS?

Anyway .. the point is my stigma went right out the window .. and being here too helped me see its the same fucking thing .. i mean i knew it was the same or similar pharmacologically but i was just conditioned to think it was the end of the line and i was scared id like it too much but then i got strung out anyway so what the fuck is that?

-Edit
Basically I just always thought id 'loose my shit' on heroin .. but now im on subs and thinking back i dont really imagine there would have been a difference .. except maybe i would have been sick more often

[digby]

Heaviest tolerance I have had at one time in my life was 400 mg day. And that was only the Oxy part. It was a very physically painful time in my life, but still it didn't take long to see that a large tolerance like that simply sucks. I had a script, so money wasn't the object, but the nagging constipation sure was. So I tapered down to a sane amount, and have so far never let it even approach becoming that high again.

[asplinteredfawn]

the white lady loves you more... and yes black tar = eww.

[DarthStoner]

SWIM pretty much needs 400mg of oxy to stay well these days, though a normal day is usually btwn 600-800 mg, plus 400-600 mg of morphine. SWIM has tried the "be-all end-all" H and was totally disappointed. Of course, it should be mentioned that tar is the only form available where I'm at, and SWIM refuses to shoot any drug - unless it's in the confines of a professional setting, which hasn't happened yet. Tolerance is a bitch, and like most with substantial habits the euphoria is no where near what it was in the past. God it would be like if SWIM could just stop for a week or two.

[antifox]

I currently wake up every morning around 5:30am-7:00 am in mad withdrawal and snort 200mg (5 40's). Then around 5pm when I start to feel the withdrawal really bad I snort one 40mg to keep withdrawals away. Then I get to sleep around 11:00 and I wake up in awful withdrawal. I think my last copule hours of sleep I am in really bad withdrawal but the sleep keeps me from noticing it. The reason I do this is because that one dose in the morning that last for 3-4 hours is wayyy more rewarding and euphoric, keeps the budget lower, and also way safer than redosing all day. So ya about 240mg a day. A moring or two a week I suck down a bunch of fentany lollipops and get an awesome high but need a oxy dose of 80mg to let me go to sleep at night and not be in WD. That's for the morning :P

[Nonphixion]

I currently wake up every morning around 5:30am-7:00 am in mad withdrawal and snort 200mg (5 40's). Then around 5pm when I start to feel the withdrawal really bad I snort one 40mg to keep withdrawals away. Then I get to sleep around 11:00 and I wake up in awful withdrawal. I think my last copule hours of sleep I am in really bad withdrawal but the sleep keeps me from noticing it. The reason I do this is because that one dose in the morning that last for 3-4 hours is wayyy more rewarding and euphoric, keeps the budget lower, and also way safer than redosing all day. So ya about 240mg a day. A moring or two a week I suck down a bunch of fentany lollipops and get an awesome high but need a oxy dose of 80mg to let me go to sleep at night and not be in WD. That's for the morning :P

That's what I did with Oxy too bro, well come to think of it i would do my last shot at 5pm of H to. I would wake up in wd's every morning but would get well right at 8am(as soon as the boys open shop). It does really help make it last wayy longer and its not to bad of wd's, well for me anyway.

[BrokenPens]

Can someone explain the appeal of paying large amounts of money for 3 pills for what you would pay 60$ tops and get a better high? Heroin I'm talking about. Not to crush your love of OC's I just truely DON'T get it. Enlighten me. Cos' I have to shoot 3 80's to feel anything last time I did and it was like a 190$ shot!? ( This is all fiction )

A lot of people don't do heroine for the stigma, they figure since it's a prescription it's not as bad... which is stupid. I love how my one friend will smoke my Fent and go to the e.r. to get a dose of w/e I.V., but refuses to do heroine. I think it's funny because I've talked to regular H users about Fent and usually I here, "Dude, I won't mess with that shit."

[euphoricontin17]

Wow, thanks alot guys these are great responses! I think it's crazy to see how other people's ways of using oxys can be so different from your own. Like I know many people who say " you chew them? I had no idea you could do that and get high. "

Its really fascinating that everybody has their own little ritual about doing OC's. Some people suck the coating off and crushed them in a folded up dollar bill, while other's swear that using a hose clamp and shaving the pill into dust " doubles the pile " and gets you twice as high. Honestly I don't know what difference it makes but I think its neat how some people do oxys for years a certain way and have no idea there are others ways.

By the way can anyone tell me why they do not use IV oxycodone or hydrocodone in a hospital setting? Does it have to do with them being derivitives of codeine, and because codeine cannot be safely administed by route of IV because of the risk of pulmonary edema?

Thanks again for all the good posts there are some really cool people on this forum.

[jersey_emt]

Wow, thanks alot guys these are great responses! I think it's crazy to see how other people's ways of using oxys can be so different from your own. Like I know many people who say " you chew them? I had no idea you could do that and get high. "


So many people insist that snorting oxycodone is the best way to go. Now, that route of administration does have its advantages -- namely a very quick onset of effects. But oxycodone is much less efficiently absorbed when it is snorted compared to when it is swallowed. The oral bioavailability is said to be between 60% and 87% (the number varies from different studies...it is more likely closer to the higher end of that scale in the average person), but the intranasal bioavailability is said to be between 55% and 70% (again, the number varies from different studies, but I believe that it is more likely closer to the lower end of that scale in the average person).

The point is that oxycodone taken orally will get you higher than the same amount taken intranasally. It will of course take more time to start working, but in addition to working better, the duration of effects is also longer. You get higher, and stay higher longer, when you take oxycodone orally.

Its really fascinating that everybody has their own little ritual about doing OC's. Some people suck the coating off and crushed them in a folded up dollar bill, while other's swear that using a hose clamp and shaving the pill into dust " doubles the pile " and gets you twice as high. Honestly I don't know what difference it makes but I think its neat how some people do oxys for years a certain way and have no idea there are others ways.


Using a hose clamp makes a larger pile of powder compared to crushing in a regular pill crusher or in a dollar bill, cigarette pack cellophane wrapper, etc., but the extra volume is just 'fluff'. Think of a piece of cotton fabric that weighs 10 grams and 10 grams of cotton balls. The 10 grams of cotton fabric will have a much smaller volume than the 10 grams of cotton balls, as the cotton balls have a large amount of 'empty space' (air). It's a similar concept with two oxycodone tablets, one crushed normally, and one 'ground' or 'shaved' using a hose clamp. Both piles contain the same exact amount of oxycodone, but the pile from the hose clamp is bigger. Both piles will get you equally as high. Some people prefer the extra bulk and 'fluffiness' while others prefer the smaller, more dense pile. But thinking that using a hose clamp 'doubles the pile' and as such gets you twice as high is just more mindless and ignorant reasoning.

By the way can anyone tell me why they do not use IV oxycodone or hydrocodone in a hospital setting? Does it have to do with them being derivitives of codeine, and because codeine cannot be safely administed by route of IV because of the risk of pulmonary edema?

I may be mistaken, but I do believe that there are IV preparations of oxycodone made, so yes, it can be used this way in a hospital setting. I do not believe that there are IV preparations of hydrocodone. However, I am not nearly 100% sure of this, so don't take these comments as gospel.


Thanks again for all the good posts there are some really cool people on this forum.

Indeed their is. Opiophile is a great place with loads of information on opioids. Welcome aboard! I would also like to extend you an invitation to join Opioficionado (http://www.opioficionado.org/forum), Opiophile's sister site. Neither is competition for the other. I created Opioficionado (http://www.opioficionado.org) because a few times in the past, Opiophile has gone down, sometimes for extended periods, for various reasons. Should Opiophile sometime in the future unfortunately be required to shutter itself, I wanted to make sure that an alternate site exists, and Opioficionado (http://www.opioficionado.org) became just that.

[PriceofPills]

Too Goddamn high....480 mg is my norm for most days. 2 80's for breakfast, 2 for lunch, 2 for dinner.

[roxi*stardust]

Many here will disagree with me when I say this but Oxycodone is the crack of opiates! Many will say Fentanyl is and they maybe right but I don't have enough experiences with Fentanyl to judge that. I do have years of Oxycodone use under my belt and I have to say it is a love/hate relationship. It's so euphoric but the down side is the super-short half life which makes it so short acting. Six to eight hours without a dose and I'm in withdrawal. I am a legit CP patient with a decent script and do not have to deal with trying to score pills everyday luckily but it doesn't make me hate what this drug has done to me.

[PriceofPills]

Many here will disagree with me when I say this but Oxycodone is the crack of opiates! Many will say Fentanyl is and they maybe right but I don't have enough experiences with Fentanyl to judge that. I do have years of Oxycodone use under my belt and I have to say it is a love/hate relationship. It's so euphoric but the down side is the super-short half life which makes it so short acting. Six to eight hours without a dose and I'm in withdrawal. I am a legit CP patient with a decent script and do not have to deal with trying to score pills everyday luckily but it doesn't make me hate what this drug has done to me.

I definatly agree. I'm not always sick after six hours, but I definatly don't feel any thing from my earlier dose and I start to get uncomfortable.

[achybones]

Many here will disagree with me when I say this but Oxycodone is the crack of opiates! Many will say Fentanyl is and they maybe right but I don't have enough experiences with Fentanyl to judge that. I do have years of Oxycodone use under my belt and I have to say it is a love/hate relationship. It's so euphoric but the down side is the super-short half life which makes it so short acting. Six to eight hours without a dose and I'm in withdrawal. I am a legit CP patient with a decent script and do not have to deal with trying to score pills everyday luckily but it doesn't make me hate what this drug has done to me.

this hit the nail on the head. enough for my first post after months of lurking - Hello all!
Currently going through the same thing. Chronic Pain, that just keeps getting worse and worse - and nothing can be done about it. The pills help - but no so much anymore and my tolerance has gone through the roof. To the point where I do not dare ask the doc for more. He's very cool about it, but I am at the "limit" - or at lease it seems that way. But like Roxi says - I hate what the drug has done to me. The stress of taking too much and wondering how to make the rest last to fill day is starting to really get to me, to the point where obsessing about it is seriously interfering with my life

[PriceofPills]

As swim took a little trip down memory lane by pulling out his OC photo album ( yes, I know it pathetic, but everytime swim does oc's with friends, he makes sure to take pictures of the good times so he can hold on to his memories lol )


Damn, I dunno about you, but if I did that, I'd have to buy a new house just to store all of my photo ablums in.

[OpiXPO]

Your mad lucky i remember when i first started taking roxies i was able to stay at getting fucked up from 30 mgs for mad long like 3 weeks or so of everyday use and then it just stopped working and my tolerance shot up as for stopping a couple days that has never worked for me maybe if i stop for a week my first dose would be mad low but anything after and im right back to where i was

<reccomends the use of a "." for your sentences :)

someone had to say it >.>

[DarthStoner]

[QUOTE=jersey_emt;408909]The point is that oxycodone taken orally will get you higher than the same amount taken intranasally. It will of course take more time to start working, but in addition to working better, the duration of effects is also longer. You get higher, and stay higher longer, when you take oxycodone orally.

This is something that I've read many times on this forum, and I don't doubt that there is a higher bioavailibility via oral administration - after all, I assume that there is valid scientific backing for this. However, my friend swears that he gets higher from snorting his OCs, though the high is shorter it has a much quicker onset and is more intense. Based on this, I was thinking that perhaps it might be that while more is absorbed through oral consumption it is over a longer period of time, thus resulting in a much longer, but somewhat less intense high. Perhaps it works differently for others, but this friend only started getting in to snorting his OCs once crushing/eating them wasn't cutting it. He still eats them, but usually does 2 30s + 100 mg of morphine orally, and sniffs an additional 2 30s - says it works great.:D

[Ludakris]

At my worst I'd say I was doing between 480-600mg/day, broken up into 3 doses. I was at a low point in life and would blow through my scripts in one week and spend the next three scrambling to stay well and kicking myself in the ass for racing through my script like that, and saying "fuck this, I'm never going through a script that fast again!" and then do it again next month.
Lately though, life has been looking a little more "up" and I've gotten much better about making things last. Through some very diligent efforts I've finally lowered my tolerance and have been using only what I'm prescribed (somedays a little more, I not perfect) but I'm back down to using only 150mg most days, and 200-220 on occasion. Luckily I think I've finally trained my brain to understand that chasing a high all day, using massive amounts of oxy for little effect, is not worth the pain and depression that kicks in when I have none left, AND paying street price to just stay well is very, very expensive.

[lib.sOCialist]

anything above 200mg's IV seems to keep me well.

[BlueMajick]

at my highest it was about 280mg a day

usually would wake up and do 60-80 mg, then another 20 in an hour, and then pretty much used every hour or two hours if i had the day off, or if i had class, go to class for an hour-3 hours, then go to bathroom do some more, then go to next class... i think that was the biggest problem and why getting off of them is so hard now, is that when i first did them i only used once a day, but this last year has basically been doing them whenever i was the least bit bored... not even touching withdrawals for months at a time, even when i woke up i could still barely keep my eyes open and i was preparing another line.

i really was using oc like cocaine (@ crack of opiates comment)

[Morphus]

Agree very much with the crack analogy. I'm a pod man, myself, but occasionally run into oxys. I've learned that at my current tolerance I could make it on about 160 mg a day, about 40 mg every 4-5 hours of awake time. The best is the first dose in the AM, 40 mg swallowed, nice euphoria for a half hour slowly fades, and after two hours I'm thinking about the next dose. I think oxy would suck to have to maintain on; too much clock watching in anticipation of the next dose.

[norseman]

Many here will disagree with me when I say this but Oxycodone is the crack of opiates! Many will say Fentanyl is and they maybe right but I don't have enough experiences with Fentanyl to judge that. I do have years of Oxycodone use under my belt and I have to say it is a love/hate relationship. It's so euphoric but the down side is the super-short half life which makes it so short acting. Six to eight hours without a dose and I'm in withdrawal. I am a legit CP patient with a decent script and do not have to deal with trying to score pills everyday luckily but it doesn't make me hate what this drug has done to me.

Swim has had a habit with both Oxy and Fent and can say that he found Oxy to actually have a shorter half life then Fent does "Buccally". In fact according to Wikipedia, Fents half life is on average 7h ranging from 3-12h, and Oxy is actually shorter with a half life from 3-4.5h. In fact Oxy has one of the shortest half lives of all commonly Rx'd opiates. I do think smoking Fent is a different animal then buccally, but even still you are looking at a minimum of a 3h half life, which is very close to Oxy.

[Dirt McGirt]

Swim has had a habit with both Oxy and Fent and can say that he found Oxy to actually have a shorter half life then Fent does "Buccally". In fact according to Wikipedia, Fents half life is on average 7h ranging from 3-12h, and Oxy is actually shorter with a half life from 3-4.5h. In fact Oxy has one of the shortest half lives of all commonly Rx'd opiates. I do think smoking Fent is a different animal then buccally, but even still you are looking at a minimum of a 3h half life, which is very close to Oxy.

I don't know how anyone on oxycodone IR doses every 6-8 hours. I could barely get through 2 hours before fiending for another dose.:o

[OpiXPO]

Taking it with DLPA seems to make it last a good 4-5 hours strong for me, otherwise yeah 2 hours max out of it, with only a good 20-30 minutes strong.

[Ickyuck]

I prefer the "snort then eat" procedure. (with heroin its "smoke then snort")

I snort one or a few (depends on what it is) for the quick effects (if it applies), then I take a one or a few of the same orally. Therefore, you have your little nose party going on while you wait for the oral pills to take action in the stomach into your bloodstream...

[ATLtrap]

when i was in full blown addiction...
3 80s (morning, afternoon, night) to keep me well and feel decent
usually averaged around 4-5 80s a day to feel groovy..
30$ a pop from some hustler in atlanta.
he only sold in multipes of 100 tho...

[Fo20]

Can someone explain the appeal of paying large amounts of money for 3 pills for what you would pay 60$ tops and get a better high? Heroin I'm talking about. Not to crush your love of OC's I just truely DON'T get it. Enlighten me. Cos' I have to shoot 3 80's to feel anything last time I did and it was like a 190$ shot!? ( This is all fiction )

I think its because they're more "clean" and you don't have to worry about all the bullshit its cut with and how pure your shits gonna be.Also the Stigma,people don't feel as guilty or as much of a dirty person if they're using something that is legally perscribed.

[Fo20]

So many people insist that snorting oxycodone is the best way to go. Now, that route of administration does have its advantages -- namely a very quick onset of effects. But oxycodone is much less efficiently absorbed when it is snorted compared to when it is swallowed. The oral bioavailability is said to be between 60% and 87% (the number varies from different studies...it is more likely closer to the higher end of that scale in the average person), but the intranasal bioavailability is said to be between 55% and 70% (again, the number varies from different studies, but I believe that it is more likely closer to the lower end of that scale in the average person).

The point is that oxycodone taken orally will get you higher than the same amount taken intranasally. It will of course take more time to start working, but in addition to working better, the duration of effects is also longer. You get higher, and stay higher longer, when you take oxycodone orally.



This is something that I've read many times on this forum, and I don't doubt that there is a higher bioavailibility via oral administration - after all, I assume that there is valid scientific backing for this. However, my friend swears that he gets higher from snorting his OCs, though the high is shorter it has a much quicker onset and is more intense. Based on this, I was thinking that perhaps it might be that while more is absorbed through oral consumption it is over a longer period of time, thus resulting in a much longer, but somewhat less intense high. Perhaps it works differently for others, but this friend only started getting in to snorting his OCs once crushing/eating them wasn't cutting it. He still eats them, but usually does 2 30s + 100 mg of morphine orally, and sniffs an additional 2 30s - says it works great.:D

I agree with your friend,If i peal and crush oxycontin,pop it,and do the same amount but snorting it...i definitely do not get higher if i pop it,sniffing creates a way more intense and euphoric high,I believe the bioavailibility may be higher...but when you snort it prolly absorbs more at a time and hits your brain faster thus resulting in a way better high

[spider]

At swim's worst, he was doing 300+ mgs a day. Now, swim chips maybe twice a month. Last night, he got 3 Mallie 15's and IV'd them. He was FUCKED UP. He was actually nodding out like he used to. The best part was, that they had legs for like 8-12 hours. . . That had NEVER happened before. Swim didn't complain though, just glad he was a cheap date.

[antifox]

I don't think oxy is the crack of opiates.

For me it's oxymorphone and hydromorphone. When I snort dillies I am in FULL withdrawal 12 hours later, with oxy it's 24. That's full withdrawal though. Otherwise I am redosing dillies every eight hours. They drive me crazy, but are so sweet. For some reason the morphones just bring on withdrawal so fast for me. I am sure some people know what I am talking about.

[antifox]

That's what I did with Oxy too bro, well come to think of it i would do my last shot at 5pm of H to. I would wake up in wd's every morning but would get well right at 8am(as soon as the boys open shop). It does really help make it last wayy longer and its not to bad of wd's, well for me anyway.


2x post, but


Yeah. I think that's the only way I can be opiated. Just be high for that one period of time. Being in withdrawal makes it so much better and if I am not running on that schedule I get pissed off because I don't get nearly as high.

[Maintenance Man]

Back before I got on Subs, I was into heroin - then my dealer got pinched, and the only connect I could find was for Oxy, and god forbid, Percs. I shot up that nasty juice from CWE more times than I care to remember. Hope no delayed negative effects from that shit... it was clear by the time I got it in the needle.

When I did oxy, I required two shots of 120mg back to back to get a MILD rush (more of a feeling of it "kicking in" than a rush), and the "high" lasted a grand total of half an hour. One time I did 640mg over the course of three shots in around 3 minutes, and I nodded for, I think, around an hour. I was doing 2-3 bundles a day before this.

My daily habit was around .8-1g of strong pharms (OC, morphine) or 2-3g of H... that gives you an idea of the purity of the H I was getting.

I did some OC oral once, and surprisingly, sans the rush, it took the same amount for me to get a high as banging it - I imagine lots is lost in the cooking/filtering process.

So... to keep from being sick? 60-80mg every ~3 hours, with all the willpower in my mind (which is never enough to keep me from doing it all at once...)
To get a buzz? At LEAST 300 mg, IV.
To get a good high, with nods and all? 500+mg.

No need to remind you, the best oxy can't hold a candle to decent H.

As bad as I crave on Subs, the Klonopin helps... it infinitely beats the living-by-the-clock waiting-by-the-phone ridiculously overpriced pharmaceutical shit, and even blowing all my money on H or whatever... pill dealers don't have their sht together... most unreliable people I have ever met. The stress of that life was getting to be too much for me. It was, and still is, time for a break. I'll try and make the break last forever. I'll probably fail; it's in the numbers. But so far, so good.

[Groggy]

I dunno but I take at least 4 mgs of xanax each morn w/ at least 60 mgs adderall IR. This keeps me sane between my 2 week roxi refills during which I iv at least 3 30s morning of and then progress to 60-90 mg shots every four to six hours for about 5 days. they also help supplement my income. so i wind up with about 40 30s every 2 weeks. w/d for a couple o days then count the days about 8 days til at this time of post.

[simfromstoke]

how you guys can afford habits like those is way beyond me...

ive been a smackhead for 13yrs and even at the height of my addiction i would be doin a teenth a day
(a teenth is a sixteenth [of an ounce] or 1.75g)

i would reload every other day 'cause an eighth is £10 cheaper

so 17 bags a day would cost me £40

id normally inject about a quarter of a teenth at a time (around .4 of a G) and id still get smashed everytime.


how you lot can afford to sniff 2-3-400 dollars worth a day and to just be staving off withdrawls all the time must be horrid!

britain hasnt got a pill culture like you guys have. but with the price of smack bein sooo cheap i doubt pills would ever take off over here


can someone tell me where you find like $2-$300 a day to keep well (especially with some of you's still at school)
the only way of earning that sort of money is either hookin or dealing (or rich mummy and daddy i guess)

[antifox]

No need to remind you, the best oxy can't hold a candle to decent H.

As bad as I crave on Subs, the Klonopin helps... it infinitely beats the living-by-the-clock waiting-by-the-phone ridiculously overpriced pharmaceutical shit, and even blowing all my money on H or whatever... pill dealers don't have their sht together... most unreliable people I have ever met. The stress of that life was getting to be too much for me. It was, and still is, time for a break. I'll try and make the break last forever. I'll probably fail; it's in the numbers. But so far, so good.

That's your opinion. Oxycodone is my drug of choice and I prefer it over heroin. You really can't say one is better than the other because tons of people are going to have something different to say than you.

Also, you should really be careful taking benzo's with suboxone. Only two people have OD'd and died from suboxone alone and that was from throwing up in their sleep and drowning. Every other suboxone overdose has been with a mixture of other drugs. Most common was benzo's, second alcohol. The CNS depression of buprenorphine+benzodiazepine is VERY strong.

You have probably done it for a long time and think you will be okay, but there is a chance you won't dose correctly or at the wrong time and will put yourself in some real danger. Be careful. I am telling you this because I want you to 100% realize what you are messing around with and how powerful this drug combination is, not because I am scolding your or telling you that you are stupid. You are an adult and can make your own decisions. I just hate to see people playing pill roulet with their lives and not knowing that they are doing it.

[asplinteredfawn]

A lot of people don't do heroine for the stigma, they figure since it's a prescription it's not as bad... which is stupid. I love how my one friend will smoke my Fent and go to the e.r. to get a dose of w/e I.V., but refuses to do heroine. I think it's funny because I've talked to regular H users about Fent and usually I here, "Dude, I won't mess with that shit."

"Thats cos' around my block they started selling heroin cut with fentanyl and lots of people ODed including myself. Due to the fact fentanyl has less of a " border " where you can fallout but not OD than heroin does. Personally I've tried every common opiate and even many of the not so common ones and Heroin or Dilaudid is still my favourite. Oxycodone is just obsolete when you have East coast smack from a good dealer and you're not afraid of needles. So I just never got it... But your point on the stigma is so true. I know people who will SHOOT my methadone but wont take me to get heroin. Xenophobia I guess, but you gotta give it up if you want to live it up. Go down to the corner to see if you can cop. Buy some for your sister and take yours off the top. Running to the bathroom fixing up the shot, tie it up, shoot it up, bang it up, blow it up." - SWIM

[antifox]

I always there was no difference between heroin and any other opiate. It just took me longer to get used to the idea of heroin, because it scared the shit out of me not know exaclty how much I was dosing.

[BrokenPens]

"Thats cos' around my block they started selling heroin cut with fentanyl and lots of people ODed including myself. Due to the fact fentanyl has less of a " border " where you can fallout but not OD than heroin does. Personally I've tried every common opiate and even many of the not so common ones and Heroin or Dilaudid is still my favourite. Oxycodone is just obsolete when you have East coast smack from a good dealer and you're not afraid of needles. So I just never got it... But your point on the stigma is so true. I know people who will SHOOT my methadone but wont take me to get heroin. Xenophobia I guess, but you gotta give it up if you want to live it up. Go down to the corner to see if you can cop. Buy some for your sister and take yours off the top. Running to the bathroom fixing up the shot, tie it up, shoot it up, bang it up, blow it up." - SWIM

God, you have no idea how much SWIM wants to try heroine, only problem is that SWIM has a pain management doc and is afraid of the not-so-random drug testing. Yeah, you gotta be real careful with Fentanyl... so many friends who hear that SWIM has a scrip (but refuse to sell those to people because of liability issues), then they hear SWIM talk about what it's like to smoke it so they buy some and tell SWIM about it. Then SWIM insists that they let her show them how to do it because ODing is so easy if you've never done it before and don't know how much to use. I believe that 2 people have died in my town from it in the last 6 months... I live in a VERY small town.

[euphoricontin17]

Hey guys, this thread has been a HUGE success! I got a lot of useful information out of it. I just want to says thank you to everyone for contributing, I really appriciate it. I am going to school atm and I actually have to take a class about illegal drug use. I have to write a report about illegitamate drug use ( we choose a drug, I chose heroin ) and all of this info on tolerance is going to help me soooo much! I promise I wont use any names or screen names or the web site or anything, all I needed is the numbers (mg's) just so I can make a statement about how wildly tolerance can vary and fluctuate. Thanks again guys, I love this site and being a part of it more and more everyday!

[Maintenance Man]

You have probably done it for a long time and think you will be okay, but there is a chance you won't dose correctly or at the wrong time and will put yourself in some real danger. Be careful. I am telling you this because I want you to 100% realize what you are messing around with and how powerful this drug combination is, not because I am scolding your or telling you that you are stupid. You are an adult and can make your own decisions. I just hate to see people playing pill roulet with their lives and not knowing that they are doing it.

Yes, I am fully aware of how potent the combo may be, especially with the bio-accumulation of longer half-life benzos - thanks for bringing this up anyways.

The CNS depression of suboxone + benzo is far less than the CNS depression of full agonist + same benzo, thus, safer: but most don't go around warning people of this nearly as often as the whole sub/benzo thing.

Also, when suboxone doesn't even relieve all of your withdrawals, I would believe you are in a constant state of slight CNS stimulation - the same as experiencing anxiety, or during a panic attack. Those on suboxone, stabilized, are probably (I'm not sure about this) as good as on just about nothing CNS-wise due to the fact that a suboxone patient is completely tolerant to the effects of the drug, and bupe has a cap to the respiratory depression it can induce in even non-tolerant subjects.

[mrb0jangles]

It's really weird but lately I cannot feel shit from slamming roxi's. Other than a real short rush then once thats gone I'm left pissed off and fiending. I actually get more joy from snorting but you think IV would get one more fucked up.

[skeezerjohns22]

I currently wake up every morning around 5:30am-7:00 am in mad withdrawal and snort 200mg (5 40's). Then around 5pm when I start to feel the withdrawal really bad I snort one 40mg to keep withdrawals away. Then I get to sleep around 11:00 and I wake up in awful withdrawal. I think my last copule hours of sleep I am in really bad withdrawal but the sleep keeps me from noticing it. The reason I do this is because that one dose in the morning that last for 3-4 hours is wayyy more rewarding and euphoric, keeps the budget lower, and also way safer than redosing all day. So ya about 240mg a day. A moring or two a week I suck down a bunch of fentany lollipops and get an awesome high but need a oxy dose of 80mg to let me go to sleep at night and not be in WD. That's for the morning :P
Yeah, antifox.. It seems that way w/ swim as well.. swim can chew a 50mcg mylan and be fine all day long.. However, when it comes time to settle down at night, swim def. needs his 60-80mgs of oxy to get at least 7 good hrs. of sleep... if swin doesn't have any oxy left then he quickly introduces himself to mr. RLS around 3-4 a.m..ha

[skeezerjohns22]

With me, it takes about 30 mg to feel it and about 60 to really get fucked up (right now). I'm quite skinny though so I think that has something to do with it. I also don't go through w/d for some reason (from anything, I quit smoking cold turkey with no problem) so if I notice my tolerance is higher than I'd like it to be, one week it was taking me about 100 mg to get high, I'll go a couple days without it and my tolerance'll drop to normal :) God I'm lucky.
i don't know if i would consider that lucky or fucking invincible.. I wish i could say the same for myself, wd's are always 12-16hrs. away for myself...damn it sux.

[Spork]

I can kill about 240mg of ox and not feel much :(

[Princess]

I can kill about 240mg of ox and not feel much :(

Join the club. It sucks. BIG. TIME.

[Spork]

It's sad cause before my tolerance was so high, I used to get so high off of 1 80. So I buy 3 of them thinking "oh i'll take 2 and get so high" but I take 2 and not much happens, so I take another. A waste of money at 60$ a piece.

[euphoricontin17]

FUCKING AMAZING! Ya gotta love the human body ( and hate it as well ). I started this thread a few weeks ago when my tolerance was at about 400mg's to get where I wanted to be. I took a break for about ten days, only taking 1mg of bupe per day to EASE the w/d's not take them away and now I can get feeling pretty nice off two eighties again and FEEL 60mgs! Nothing that surprising, but I am just glad my tolerance went down pretty quick. Thing that sucks though is I have money now, so it'll be going back up again haha.

[Madam Oxy]

For the better part of the year I was taking:
every 8 hours, OxyCodone 3 30's with 3 20's = 150 mg
every 3-4 hrs, OxyContin 6 30's then when up to 10 30's = 180mg to 300mg
I took the 10 30's when I had pain in my entire right arm...like tennis elbow, but from shoulder to finger tips. I did this for about 4 months (?) or so.

Beginning in August I cut back to 5 30 oxycontin and 2 each of the 30/20 codone. So that's 1,050 mg a day approximately.

In September I will cut out 1 30 contin and 1 20 codone.

I actually didn't realize how much I was taking until July. Then I had written Lil' Red my doses and it looked horrible in print. :o I couldn't believe that I was taking that much. That's why I started to decrease my doses...and the withdraw has been more mental than physical.

[duck]

FUCKING AMAZING! Ya gotta love the human body ( and hate it as well ). I started this thread a few weeks ago when my tolerance was at about 400mg's to get where I wanted to be. I took a break for about ten days, only taking 1mg of bupe per day to EASE the w/d's not take them away and now I can get feeling pretty nice off two eighties again and FEEL 60mgs! Nothing that surprising, but I am just glad my tolerance went down pretty quick. Thing that sucks though is I have money now, so it'll be going back up again haha.

you'll be back to where you were within a few days, rest assured!

[Reveller]

Swim is currently at 240mg crushed oral to feel it and 480-560mg to get where he want's to be

Holy fuck thats a lot of pills! Where I live, you'd have to have a second job (which many people do anyway) or sell your gold reserves to fund a habit that size... unless you have an amazing connect. Oxy prices in Philly area are way inflated, from what I understand from other people here.

Haha I must have the lowest tolerance on this thread... That's a good thing, but is it embarrasing on an opiate forum? My street cred is gone now :cool:. Currently my tolerances is: 15mg (oral) to feel anything at all, and 20-30mg (oral) to get fucked up. I used to take as much as 60mg at a time and got a good, but not crazy buzz. Lately though, if I were to take more than 30 at once I would get sick.

My tolerance has remained low for a while, due to money issues, not having great connections, and somewhat due to personal choice... I try to keep my distance from oxycodone as its sooo easy to want to do it every day. But still, I list it as my #2 DOC.

[Opiofiend]

Oc prices in pilladelphia are actually much cheaper than other parts of the USA. .50 a mg is mild compared to other horror stories I've heard. However it is still too expensive for swim when thr scripts run out early. Thank god for Camden! A 500mg oc habit is much easier to maintain between scripts on smack then street oc

[Reveller]

Oc prices in pilladelphia are actually much cheaper than other parts of the USA. .50 a mg is mild compared to other horror stories I've heard. However it is still too expensive for swim when thr scripts run out early. Thank god for Camden! A 500mg oc habit is much easier to maintain between scripts on smack then street oc

See... I KNOW that some people around here pay 50 cents per mg, even though I usually pay $1/mg... which is horrible. All these little small time bitches I've gotten stuff from always rape you, and being someone with few connects, I have no choice if I want the goods. I've been able to negotiate as low as 60 cents per mg ONCE. I know I'm getting ripped off but I still choose to go for it, depending on my mood. Lately I've been stickin to the tea for this reason.

[skeezerjohns22]

i understand completely reveller.. Where swim lives oc 80's go for $70-75...cheapest is $65, but this is only one source...swim has the grit his teeth and bear it if he wants if he wants any oc at all..Yes, it is extremely high but ppl. don't realize that if you want any opi's you're gonna have to pay top dollar.. Its not that we are stupid and don't know what they REALLY should be going for..

[euphoricontin17]

Yeah, guys these rediculous $70 an eighty prices have honestly cost me a small fortune. I swear I'd have one nice fucking car right now if I didn't do oc's. I remember, a few years back when i graduated high school, my family gave me three grand as a graduation present. That money lasted 3 weeks with my habit. WHen I look back on it now it fucking DISGUSTS me. I was chewing up 4 to 5 80's A DAY, EVERYDAY, FOR $70 bucks a fucking piece! I was so fucking dumb, I can't believe how fast I blew through all that money. It's the same exact way not as it is then, but since i get paid every 2 weeks and spend almost my whole paycheck wich aint much, it doesn't bother me as much 'cause it doesn't feel like I'm blowing as much money, even though I am in the long run. What sucks is that norm for me is currently with my, by my standards, lowered tolerance, $210 bucks a high! and that's only for 3 80's! Sometimes I don't even get fucking high! Thats why I love shooting fucking D's man, they never fuck you regardless of how much you paid. That rush is a gaurenteed life-fix-all. Your fucking wife could get decapitated by a fucking wood chipper and if you were rushing on D you'd just be like " well it was for the best " or something. Man I wish I could get some right now. They are so hard to get around here 99% I'd have to suck someone cock just to get one and I'm not doing that. Sorry for the rant. I just love dilaudid so much, it's all i got left to care for me in this ailing world of diminished returns and non-existant-highs-from-super-high-doses!

[wisegal]

[QUOTE=euphoricontin17;414579]Your fucking wife could get decapitated by a fucking wood chipper and if you were rushing on D you'd just be like " well it was for the best " or something. Man I wish I could get some right now. They are so hard to get around here 99% I'd have to suck someone cock just to get one and I'm not doing that. Sorry for the rant. QUOTE]

I am laughing so hard right now thank you so much euphorcontin! IDK if its because i smoked a joint and come to work and read this or what but it was Hilarious to me! :D

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Can someone explain the appeal of paying large amounts of money for 3 pills for what you would pay 60$ tops and get a better high? Heroin I'm talking about. Not to crush your love of OC's I just truely DON'T get it. Enlighten me. Cos' I have to shoot 3 80's to feel anything last time I did and it was like a 190$ shot!? ( This is all fiction )
I understand what your saying. I just think most peeps like OC because you know exactly what your getting product wise and dose wise. There have been many OD's on cut/strong H but with OC you know exactly how many mgs your shooting. Not saying its safe just a lot more so than shooting H

[Flowergirl]

I think those who prefer pills fall into one or more of a few categories of thought...
-Rational or not, they believe heroin has a stigma attached to it.
-With pills, you know what you are getting, and perhaps that provides a feeling of safety.
-Or, like me, they are a suburban mom who likes to have fun a couple times a month. The lifestyle we/I have doesn't really lend itself to heading into Baltimore's hoods to find some heroin. Pills are easier to get ahold of by far.

For the original question, my tolerance is 30mg at a time. I do this about 4 times a month.