Getting the most I can into a 1mL syringe...

[incident]

Hi guys, I'm new to the board. Anyways, I'm down here in South Florida and swim down here currently has access to the 30mg blues (roxis). swim used to be a heroin addict and has to settle for these babies because really, it's his cheapest option down here. now, swim's tolerance is such that he won't feel a shot with less than 3 roxis mixed into it. swim also thinks its a waste to shoot opiates without diphenhydramine now, so that ALWAYS is the first thing mixed into his shot (3 cvs brand diphenhydramine pills), this greatly increases the rush and the nod in swim's experience, and swim will never turn back.

anyways, swim's way of execution is this:
1. pour out diphenhydramine powder into the spoon, add 120cc's of water, add fire, stir --> now we have a liquid full of diphenhydramine that is as thin as water
2. add crushed up roxi's, stir, heat, add more water if necessary
3. cotton, draw
4. shoot

Anyways, this method allows me to get a maximum of about 4 pills in the shot (while leaving about half a pill or more in goo in the spoon). I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how to get more pills in the shot? I went to the pharmacy and asked for a bigger rig, but the next size is 3mL... and those barrels are just to big, I don't want to ruin my veins with those 25 gauge barrels, I just won't do it.

Currently I use 1mL 30 gauge 1/2 inch syringes, are there syringes out there with the same 1/2 inch 30 gauge barrel that hold 1.5mL of liquid? Or is there a tactic I could use, that I'm missing, in which swim could put more pills in his shot? thanks

[JonnyMohawk]

Everyone, please do not shoot up benadryl... It just isn't a good idea, especially with all the fillers, etc.

[hydro chris]

^^oh boy.

[harmonik]

Benadryl never really increases my high, I've found..
If I've not done enough to catch a nod from the opies alone, diph. will usually get me in the noddin' zone. Injecting it isn't too good on the veins.. it was such a hassle to draw up also. I'd filter a few times and it'd still be cloudy, so I stopped that shit. Just pop em in your mouth an hour before use.. works for me.

[StackBundles]

You could cut the end of a new 1 unit jammy off at the 5 to 10 unit mark and affix it to the end of a 5mil oral syringe. It fits perfect. So... You'd have a 5mil barrel with a 30g needle.

OR...

Successively fix the Roxis with the same solution, like two at a time. Fix two, then using the solution in your rig that contains the oxy, fix two more... Continue until you have the desired concentration of dope in your fit.

^^^You might want to check the solubility of oxycodone per mil of water though, that way you don't waste any dope.

[SeVeN]

Everyone, please do not shoot up benadryl... It just isn't a good idea, especially with all the fillers, etc.

Benadryl never really increases my high, I've found..
If I've not done enough to catch a nod from the opies alone, diph. will usually get me in the noddin' zone. Injecting it isn't too good on the veins.. it was such a hassle to draw up also. I'd filter a few times and it'd still be cloudy, so I stopped that shit. Just pop em in your mouth an hour before use.. works for me.

I never had benadryl give me any sort of rush. I've just had it help me to nod quicker as posted above.

So in that case, just eat it if you want to get closer to nodding, Dont Shoot that Shit!!

[hopefiend]

i have gotten 8 30's in to 1 rig just put 2 cc's of water cook a little ad powder stirr, cotton, suck and i get 1 cc in the rig everytime.... i dont know if im wasting but i go through 120 in like a day

[incident]

As people have mentioned, at first when I was experimenting with different types of over the counter benedryl to shoot with my buprenorphine (this is why I started it in the first place, to get a high/nod off my subutex). I decided to try it with my oxycodone shot one day, LOVED the results and haven't turned back. Actually, the other day I did a shot of just 4 roxis with no diphenhydramine because I was sick and didn't have any off-hand, and it was a huge let down.

It used to be hard to draw up, I couldn't cook it or else it would gel up, etc. UNTIL I found this particular brand. When heated, this brand actually seems to THIN OUT the water. It is also clear as a cloudless sky. I don't know - each to his own I guess. I have friends who testify both ways - plenty that say it's a waste to shoot opiates without some kind of antihistamine and others that say it makes no difference and they prefer their shots without...

I thought it was crazy too, until I gave it a shot (pun intended). I seriously do think that everyone owes it to themselves to try it at least one time.

Anyways, as far as some of the suggestions above -
1. attaching a 5mL syringe to my broken off 1mL syringe, may I ask with what?

2. Prepping 2 at a time, and then 2 more, and then 2 more, gradually adding them to the liquid - I have tried this and at some point the water just gets so clogged up with pill powder and stops absorbing new stuff, all the new stuff turns to blue goop that is unabsorbed at the bottom of the spoon.

3. The guy who said he gets 8 into a shot - are those the A 215's or the Mallinckrondts?

[hopefiend]

a 215's

[incident]

a 215's

how long do you put the flame under it for? until it steams? until it boils? don't they seem to, well, not gel up, but get a little thicker when you add fire to them?

[norseman]

I know in the pharmacies around here you can buy 10 and 12 ml needless syringes and then purchase separate needles in the guage that you prefer (30) etc. In fact I am pretty sure they even carry 20ml syringes which you could fit a whole Rx's worth of Roxi in.

Maybe check a different pharmacy.



edit: I second doing a quick search on the solubility of Oxy as well, just to make sure you are not trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.

[hopefiend]

always heat first till right before it bubbles then n add [powder it sinks right to the bottom

[Larkin]

I am pretty sure i heard before that something like 160mgs of oxycodone was soluble in 1ml or cc of water. With pills i find it is usually necessary to do a 2nd wash anyway. Another reason i stopped shooting pills. But i tried the benadryl thing and imo its a bad idea. I find it made me feel really weird and it wasnt the blissful nod i loved.

[dieselbaby]

Solubility of Oxycodone in water is 166 mg/mL. Don't use more than this, you're just wasting it. You have a supersaturated solution and you need to get a little better preparatory technique down so that you get the most "bang for your buck." Check out my thread here: http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=20899

Never use heat when preparing pills for injection. Although if you're shooting benadryl (despite how 'clear' the solution might look to you) I must assume that you don't have much regard for your own well-being, no offense.

[Michael]

I've often wondered how yanks cope with those Insulin 100 units pieces.
I tried one once and the plunger was so flimsy it was hard to draw back,
could barely fit a shot in etc,

here we get 3mls with 26 or 27g picks as standard from the exchange :P

[Papa Verine]

In Chicago it's common for street-level heroin to be cut with an OTC diphenhydramine product called Dormin. It cooks up clear and some people think it adds positive effects to the dope. I never liked it in my dope but this isn't the first time I've heard somebody say this that's for sure.

[TheJuggla1207]

i just gotta say one thing to the OP, are you fuckin retarted tryin to shoot bupe to get a high? why dont you cut that shit out and save the bupe for a rainy day. you have to be a complete idiot to keep shooting bupe (IN PILL FORM NO LESS) to get a high, if ya got a tolerance at all than its not worth it to shoot bupe, keep em for when u aint got shit and cant get shit, and take em as they are supposed to be taken.

[SeVeN]

i just gotta say one thing to the OP, are you fuckin retarted tryin to shoot bupe to get a high? why dont you cut that shit out and save the bupe for a rainy day. you have to be a complete idiot to keep shooting bupe (IN PILL FORM NO LESS) to get a high, if ya got a tolerance at all than its not worth it to shoot bupe, keep em for when u aint got shit and cant get shit, and take em as they are supposed to be taken.

And another one bites the dust.

[hopefiend]

wow i bet his head is still spinning