euphoricontin17
08-16-2009, 07:10 AM
Hey all, This is my first post here and let me say I am very glad to be part of this great community! I have been waiting for memberships to open for so long now!
SWIM is mainly an oxycodone user but dope is where his hearts at. The reason SWIM does not use dope very frequently is because he usually insnuffilates it and his tolerance is simply to high to snort all that dope when he could chew 3 80's with better results. The only problem is, as many of you know, oxys are not cheap when you don't have a script and are on the " outside ". It's rough, especially in his area ( philly suburbs ) where 80's go for $70 a piece! Swim could get them for $40 if he went down to the city but these days it's simply too risky so he pays the premium. Sorry about all the useless background.
Anyway, so swim has always, like many others, set out on a mission to try every opiate pharm that crosses his path. Not to say he goes out looking for new things but when somthing presents itself, swim keeps an open mind. Just recently, Swim found the elusive dilauded in his 'hood where there is usually only vic's ( which are useless to him ) and oxy's. Swim jumped on the oppurtunity and acquired 20 4mg pills. Swim paid ten a piece and does not know if he got ripped off seeing as he is only familiar with dope and oxy prices. This is where the problem is.... Swim began his opiate days snorting oxy, but then moved to chewing due to the great BA. Anyway swim was only suboxone for 2 years for a very small vicodin habit and now wishes he had not of done it in the first place ( it just was not neccessary ) and came off the subs ( with much difficulty) with a higher tolerance to opiates than ever! Swim only weighs 135lbs and is a healthy 21 year old kid, but before the subs an 80 would keep him high all night and that was after 3 years of chipping with vic's and perks. Then he moved to OC when he got off the subs. He found that he needed a minimum of 120mgs to get a decent buzz going and that was months ago. Swim's tolerance progressessed to 240mgs for a small buzz and 320mgs for a decent high. SWIM often is very sad because he feels as though he can never get back those old non-tolerant type highs regardless of his dose. Is this common? Swim has taken up to 6 crushed 80 mg oxys at once and all's that was increased was the sedation not the euphoria. SWIM feels lost because regardless of his dose his euphoria is never that good and lasts only about an hour while the sedation and respritory depression keeps escallating. In one sentence, swim is trying to say he keeps getting more of the unwanted/unneeded/less important effects rather than the sought after one, which for swim is simply euphoria. It does not matter if he is full of energy or nodding out, all swim wants is the content happy feeling all of us junkies, er, uh, " opiophiles dream of. SWIM feels he has not had that in so long and does not know if he can get it back because it seems that no matter what he dose is he doesn't get anymore euphoria. So usually swim just settles for his $210 mediorce buzz from 3 80's. it's so rediculous how sometimes swim will eat 240mg of OC and not be phased by it ( just takes away the sickness). It's very upsetting to see a friend take 4 percocets and be nodding out. I know what your thinking.... SWIM is a idiot to pay that much and not even be getting a good buzz. But SWIM finds he will do anything for opi's even if they no longer love him back. SWIM hopes he is not forever banned from the land of nod.
Again sorry for the background info just want you all to get to know SWIM.
Therefore SWIM has been doing a lot of thinking lately and has realized that although his tolerance is rediculous, he, after being on subs and getting his life back together, is actually being pretty responsible this time around and not making the sames mistakes he did last time and has some semblance of control. Its odd but swim can go for months without opi's as long as he know that " one day I can feel it again " I am sure you are all familiar with that thinking. Reservations, Swim thinks their called. Anyway for 2 years swim waited to start up again but it feels like after the subs, swim is a bigger addict then ever tolerance wise and his highs are not like he remembers. So swim decided to start IVing. Now I know what you'll say and I appriciate the concern. But the truth is, swim has made up his mind and is going to do it regardless. SWIM really thought about it and came to realize that opiates are his hobby and as sad ( to some people I guess but I don't think there is anything wrong with having drugs as a hobby ) as it is, swims favorite and most important thing in life is getting high. He doesn't need it everyday, but he can't TRUELY behappy unless he is high. All that means is he makes sure he fits in a session at least twice a month. As long as they are still a part of his life, swim does not mind being sober most of the time. Swim is a weird kind of addict, I know, But to FINALLY get to the point, Swim decided since he has the dilly's and has not felt a real opi high in so long, he wants those to pop his proverbial cherry. Swim tried years back to shoot dope, but did not cook it and nothing happened. Anyway, SWIMs question is that with his tolerance of on average 320mg for a less-than average high ( no nodding out, no pinpoint pupils, noone ever notices he on anything ) and 480mg to nod ( and even then the nod is not that good) what should his starting IV Hydromorphone dose be? SWIM is not quite sure how hydroM equates to Oxy. SWIM was thing for 1mg oxy perhaps .5mg of D? Swim is also not familer with anykind of Intraveinous doseage, meaning that he would not know where to start even with shooting oxy. SWIM was thinking maybe he should start off with 20mgs? What do you guys think? more or less? It just seems that with swims tolerance, 20mg of anything except fentanyl and it analouges regardless of ROA would not do much. Although at the same time swim does not want to ruin his first IV experience by ODing. But SWIM also does not want to " underdoit ".
Anyway, sorry again all about the long post just wanted to give you a good idea of who swim is and such and thanks again for letting me join this great community!
SWIM is mainly an oxycodone user but dope is where his hearts at. The reason SWIM does not use dope very frequently is because he usually insnuffilates it and his tolerance is simply to high to snort all that dope when he could chew 3 80's with better results. The only problem is, as many of you know, oxys are not cheap when you don't have a script and are on the " outside ". It's rough, especially in his area ( philly suburbs ) where 80's go for $70 a piece! Swim could get them for $40 if he went down to the city but these days it's simply too risky so he pays the premium. Sorry about all the useless background.
Anyway, so swim has always, like many others, set out on a mission to try every opiate pharm that crosses his path. Not to say he goes out looking for new things but when somthing presents itself, swim keeps an open mind. Just recently, Swim found the elusive dilauded in his 'hood where there is usually only vic's ( which are useless to him ) and oxy's. Swim jumped on the oppurtunity and acquired 20 4mg pills. Swim paid ten a piece and does not know if he got ripped off seeing as he is only familiar with dope and oxy prices. This is where the problem is.... Swim began his opiate days snorting oxy, but then moved to chewing due to the great BA. Anyway swim was only suboxone for 2 years for a very small vicodin habit and now wishes he had not of done it in the first place ( it just was not neccessary ) and came off the subs ( with much difficulty) with a higher tolerance to opiates than ever! Swim only weighs 135lbs and is a healthy 21 year old kid, but before the subs an 80 would keep him high all night and that was after 3 years of chipping with vic's and perks. Then he moved to OC when he got off the subs. He found that he needed a minimum of 120mgs to get a decent buzz going and that was months ago. Swim's tolerance progressessed to 240mgs for a small buzz and 320mgs for a decent high. SWIM often is very sad because he feels as though he can never get back those old non-tolerant type highs regardless of his dose. Is this common? Swim has taken up to 6 crushed 80 mg oxys at once and all's that was increased was the sedation not the euphoria. SWIM feels lost because regardless of his dose his euphoria is never that good and lasts only about an hour while the sedation and respritory depression keeps escallating. In one sentence, swim is trying to say he keeps getting more of the unwanted/unneeded/less important effects rather than the sought after one, which for swim is simply euphoria. It does not matter if he is full of energy or nodding out, all swim wants is the content happy feeling all of us junkies, er, uh, " opiophiles dream of. SWIM feels he has not had that in so long and does not know if he can get it back because it seems that no matter what he dose is he doesn't get anymore euphoria. So usually swim just settles for his $210 mediorce buzz from 3 80's. it's so rediculous how sometimes swim will eat 240mg of OC and not be phased by it ( just takes away the sickness). It's very upsetting to see a friend take 4 percocets and be nodding out. I know what your thinking.... SWIM is a idiot to pay that much and not even be getting a good buzz. But SWIM finds he will do anything for opi's even if they no longer love him back. SWIM hopes he is not forever banned from the land of nod.
Again sorry for the background info just want you all to get to know SWIM.
Therefore SWIM has been doing a lot of thinking lately and has realized that although his tolerance is rediculous, he, after being on subs and getting his life back together, is actually being pretty responsible this time around and not making the sames mistakes he did last time and has some semblance of control. Its odd but swim can go for months without opi's as long as he know that " one day I can feel it again " I am sure you are all familiar with that thinking. Reservations, Swim thinks their called. Anyway for 2 years swim waited to start up again but it feels like after the subs, swim is a bigger addict then ever tolerance wise and his highs are not like he remembers. So swim decided to start IVing. Now I know what you'll say and I appriciate the concern. But the truth is, swim has made up his mind and is going to do it regardless. SWIM really thought about it and came to realize that opiates are his hobby and as sad ( to some people I guess but I don't think there is anything wrong with having drugs as a hobby ) as it is, swims favorite and most important thing in life is getting high. He doesn't need it everyday, but he can't TRUELY behappy unless he is high. All that means is he makes sure he fits in a session at least twice a month. As long as they are still a part of his life, swim does not mind being sober most of the time. Swim is a weird kind of addict, I know, But to FINALLY get to the point, Swim decided since he has the dilly's and has not felt a real opi high in so long, he wants those to pop his proverbial cherry. Swim tried years back to shoot dope, but did not cook it and nothing happened. Anyway, SWIMs question is that with his tolerance of on average 320mg for a less-than average high ( no nodding out, no pinpoint pupils, noone ever notices he on anything ) and 480mg to nod ( and even then the nod is not that good) what should his starting IV Hydromorphone dose be? SWIM is not quite sure how hydroM equates to Oxy. SWIM was thing for 1mg oxy perhaps .5mg of D? Swim is also not familer with anykind of Intraveinous doseage, meaning that he would not know where to start even with shooting oxy. SWIM was thinking maybe he should start off with 20mgs? What do you guys think? more or less? It just seems that with swims tolerance, 20mg of anything except fentanyl and it analouges regardless of ROA would not do much. Although at the same time swim does not want to ruin his first IV experience by ODing. But SWIM also does not want to " underdoit ".
Anyway, sorry again all about the long post just wanted to give you a good idea of who swim is and such and thanks again for letting me join this great community!