Is this a realistic Oxycodone taper?

[BlueMajick]

I recently ran out of funds, and decided to easiest way for me to detox from OxyContin would be a taper. This is what I came up with, lasting 2 weeks.

I'm curious if anyone thinks this thing is doable with little to no pain?

Also, these doses would be monitored by a third party.

This is coming off of an 80mg per day habbit, but in the last week there have been wild fluctuations and I can get through one day with 40mg and not much pain, of course the second day of reduced dosage is not so fun, so even though I know i can make it by with less than my starting amount, I'm also keeping in mind it gets worse before easier.

Yesterday was 80mg used...today would be day 1.

Day 1: 50mg
Day 2: 40mg
Day 3: 40mg
Day4: 30mg
Day5: 30mg
Day6: 20mg
Day7: 20mg
Day8: 20mg
Day9: 15mg
Day10: 15mg
Day11: 10mg
Day12: 10mg
Day13: 10mg
Day14: 5mg
Day15: jump to nothing, maybe some xanax... don't want to use benzos during taper as I'm terrified of any consecutive days usage.

This would cost me about 265, which i'd have to borrow from a kind friend, but i don't really want to ask them for more, but maybe could... if this seems too easy for me to relapse from the pain, which i have before, and especially since i don't really want to quit, but need to under the circumstances, for the near future at least, maybe with some talking to a therapist.

Let me know what you think, thanks!

[nullnull]

i'd rather taper within 5-7 days than 14.
you'll mostly likely feel minor wd symptoms throughout
the whole 14 days and also afterwards.
if you stop after 5-7 days, you'll recover faster.
although its gonna be a bit rougher a few days.

thats just a thought. your dosages though look correct.
keep in mind that you only have to use to kill the worst
wd symptoms.

good luck.


ps: there is no such thing as a painless withdrawl imo.

[OxiContinKing]

ps: there is no such thing as a painless withdrawl imo.

thats right, you've got to pay the piper some time...

there is no such thing as free lunch...

as far as your taper, i think it looks pretty good, although im no professional by any means....

if it were me, though, i would spend a day or so less at 20 mgs, and a day or so less at 10 mgs, and a couple more at 5 mgs before you make the jump...

and i would definitley have some comfort meds for when you do make the jump...

if not benzo's then something else...

im not exactly sure what, right now (its early and my brain aint workin, need mah juice...) search around the site, you'll find plenty of info on otc meds / remedies to help you make the jump...

hope all goes well.

[candy]

It is really hard to say what is realistic. Everyone is different. All I can tell you is to give it a try and see what happens.
You might want to post in the Oxycodone forum as they have more experience. Honestly the only drug I ever tapered from was heroin and many times at that!
Medically, I think you will be fine!

[Papa Verine]

That sounds about as good as it gets to me.

Oxycodone is short-acting, and the major withdrawals are over in 5 days. So, worst case scenario, you'll be OK again in a week.

Then you have to deal with sobriety. That's the scariest part for me. It's not the first few days of Hellish withdrawal. It's the weeks and months that follow... Feeling a little shitty for months, without a break, is worse to me then 5 days of Hell. Much worse...

[DreamSellerInc]

Just me, I'd switch it around so you can stay at 5mg for one or two more day.

I'm currently on 2mg of suboxone a day from a 160mg oxy habit. I might buy some perc's or m-dones to taper down from here.

Best of luck to you

[Duckfeet]

Sure...but I've never been able to stick to these things...I'd be over at "3rd party's" house by day 2, saying..."Change of plans, motherfucker!" And I guarantee you I'd get my dope back....Self-directed detoxes, for me, always failed predictably...only time they worked, was when I had really boring pills, like methadone or subs, and got *way* far away from any dope connects by day zero (no dope).

I actually did this kind of detox once on measured heroin, and got off dope finally up around Carmel, and lasted about six hours, and then puking and crazy, I found out just how fast you really could take all those curves up in Big Sur, heading back down to L.A. and heroin...one more time....

If I get any euphoria, from whatever opiates I'm trying to get off of, I either need to go to jail, or put several states and no money between me and dope, for at least a week or so...and even then, I better be highly motivated...

So, I guess "realistic taper" is all in how you view "realistic". We all be different.

[God_Albino]

why are you so afraid of using benzos? do you have a problem with them or are you just afraid you'll develop a habit over 2 weeks or less? cause they make shit a lot easier man and if you want sleep...

whatever it's your call, goodluck

[mikey5string]

ive tried all kinds of tapers.

if it were me, id get down to 30mg for a few days and jump off right there. be uncomfortable for a few days and thats it.

the faster you can do it, the sooner itll be over.

[JonnyMohawk]

ive tried all kinds of tapers.

if it were me, id get down to 30mg for a few days and jump off right there. be uncomfortable for a few days and that's it.

the faster you can do it, the sooner itll be over.


maybe for you a 30mg kick is nothing, but I know a lot of people shaking, shitting, and puking, there guts out easily at 30mgs.


Its hard to know if a taper will work for you, sometimes people are better off with a bit longer taper sometimes not.


What is really important (the part I could never do) is actually stick to the taper.

[nick]

It's as realistic as any taper ever is.Sadly kicking has little to do with realism,logic or rationality.


Much luck,man.

[jpeg]

so far as OTC comfort meds go...i cannot say enough good things about loperimide (immodium). they did fucking wonders for me. i know some people say they do nothing...others are like me. i guess i am just lucky or something but they took 90% of my symptoms away. granted i was popping 8-12 of them twice a day...but they really did work.

best of luck with your taper! the last time i tried to taper with H, the person who was supposed to hold my stash for me did it all :mad:

[OxyQueen]

The way i always used to taper was to drop and then stabilize, drop then stabilize....etc..
Like if u drop to 50 mg...stay at 50 mg for 3 days then drop down to 30 mg for 3 days...
THEN the lower u get the slower u must go...well at least for me anyways!
I didn't do such big jump-downs the lower i got...maybe only 5 or 10 mg at a time at the MOST!!!

Good luck to ya...it takes some self discipline that is fo sure!!!

[Papa Verine]

The way i always used to taper was to drop and then stabilize, drop then stabilize....etc..
Like if u drop to 50 mg...stay at 50 mg for 3 days then drop down to 30 mg for 3 days...
THEN the lower u get the slower u must go...well at least for me anyways!
I didn't do such big jump-downs the lower i got...maybe only 5 or 10 mg at a time at the MOST!!!

Good luck to ya...it takes some self discipline that is fo sure!!!

Me too... I've succeded a couple times with a planned taper. Most of the time I don't have the self-discipline you speak of. I have a "Get high today worry about it tomorrow" mentality. Gets me every time...

[OxyQueen]

Me too... I've succeded a couple times with a planned taper. Most of the time I don't have the self-discipline you speak of. I have a "Get high today worry about it tomorrow" mentality. Gets me every time...

This is the EXACT same thing i do!

[BlueMajick]

The way i always used to taper was to drop and then stabilize, drop then stabilize....etc..
Like if u drop to 50 mg...stay at 50 mg for 3 days then drop down to 30 mg for 3 days...
THEN the lower u get the slower u must go...well at least for me anyways!
I didn't do such big jump-downs the lower i got...maybe only 5 or 10 mg at a time at the MOST!!!

Good luck to ya...it takes some self discipline that is fo sure!!!

Thanks to you and everyone else for the good luck wishes.

I guess the drop and stabilize method is what I was going for, although it seems you did a bit longer stabilizing in your past tapers than I have planned for this. I can definitely see how 3 days at each may be needed, and how if I really want to get away with as little pain as I'm hoping for, I may need to extend the taper by at least a few days. I have noticed now and in the past how the first day i drop my dosage, things aren't that bad, but by the next day at that same lower dose, the full impact of the drop has hit me. I suppose it might take that third day, for things to get better again to prepare me for the next drop; I guess after you brought the 3 day thing up, I'm a little concerned that if I drop again after the 2nd day...the day I'm feeling worse, that it just might be continued pain and worsening all the way down, never getting a chance to stabilize.

I know it gets worse the further down you go too, that's why originally I had planned for more days at 20 and 10mg, than at 40 and 30, but maybe i should extend that up as well, and maybe instead of making the lower doses even longer, I could make everything 3 days and just make the jumps 5mg instead of 10 once i get below 20 (20, 15, 10, 5, 0).

I'm on the second day at 40mg today, and it has been pretty easy since I've been awake, even without keeping myself that busy, which I will be trying to do a littler later on, as my remaining allowance for the day dwindles. I only noticed slight sleep disturbance last night, waking up every half hour or so from 5am to 8am when I finally got out of bed, but no sweats or extreme chills or muscle soreness. One thing I've noticed, which doesn't really come as a surprise, but I've been attempting to go the mornings without and save it up until the afternoon, then try to get high, and then not have any left for night time. At this point point 20mg is still enough to feel good from, but that's definitely not going to be an option once I go below 40mg per day.

I really don't think I should be chasing a high though, for me to want to continue once I can't. I think I need to break the habits and rituals too. I'm a nasal guy, so I've thought about maybe finding some vitamins that come in capsules and emptying them out to put the powder in so I can swallow to reduce the rush. The other extreme thing I've thought about doing is swallowing some bit of a pill (OxyContin) whole to take advantage of the extended release mechanism, reducing the number of times I dose per day, as well as to take out any high, and just keep me well throughout the day, smoothing out the ups and downs. I do worry though about the way the extended release OxyContin tablets work though, and how everything is released, and how long it really will last. If I could take a 20mg tablet, break it into fourths, and take one fourth every 3 hours, I could in theory be well for 12 hours (assuming my tolerance is in the right place for this example), but if i were to swallow that pill whole, there's no going back, pushing out a little piece a little longer, the whole pill is gone, and if that doesn't keep me feeling ok through the 12 hours, I may be tempted to take more. I want to get away from getting high, and my rituals, but crushing is the only way I know exactly how much is entering my body and taking effect at a given dose, where the extended release seems like I could be good at first but not after a little bit, or I could get just 1mg every half hour or so, or something.

If anyone knows how the release mechanism works in OxyContin tablets, or give me advice on where or not I should keep snorting, or swallowing the powder of parts of a pill, or swallow the whole pill, or a combination of the two to get me through the most amount of time possible?

[youwonhundred]

This is the EXACT same thing i do!


They have a name for people who do that you know. junky :p

[Synack]

Get some tramadol... seriously, just taper off the oxycodone, then hit the tramadol, and slowly taper off that... it's pretty much pain free...

[Cherry's Jubilee]

i think the plan is good and you should try to to stick to it but stay flexible. has anyone else noticed how some days you can get by with practically nothing and still feel ok and other days you're having mild WD symptoms even though you've technically taken "enough?"

if you have those good days where you feel pretty ok even though you haven't taken the entire allotted amount for that day, i'd try to ride it out and save the rest for one of the shitty days.

trust me--i know it's easier said than done and a truly slippery slope--and i don't know if i could do it with oxy (i'd probably just do it all at once to "get rid of it" :rolleyes:) but i've done it with methadone many times.

[OxyQueen]

They have a name for people who do that you know. junky :p


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