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LeChuck
07-20-2009, 02:38 AM
Don't have much experience with oxymorphone but I acquired a large amount recently, in the 30 mg ER and 40 mg ER dosages. I looked up some info and seeing the horrid oral bioavailability decided I'd try plugging one of the pills. I crushed a 30 up real good, put the powder in a glass, ran a small amount of hot water over the powder, as per my usual plugging routine. Stirred it and stirred it but to my horror the shit just gummed up. I couldn't get much of it into my syringe, even an oral syringe. I tried using more water but it didn't help much.

I've tried snorting them as well but am not really satisfied as they don't feel as strong as they should. I'm convinced intranasal bioavailability must be terrible. Bioavailability PR should be quite high, if only I could get it into my rectum...

I've been reading a lot about how to defeat the TimerX shit, and so I have this idea. If I crushed up a pill, then left it to dissolve in some water (reducing pH slightly, if necessary) over several hours (or however long as needed), the TimerX should release the oxymorphone into the solution. Then if I heated this over low heat to evaporate until I got a pluggable amount, would I be able to plug it or would it still gel up in my syringe?

I'm not interested in purifying it enough to get something injectable, I just want it to dissolve reasonably well in a small amount of warm water so I can plug it.

Aside from just dissolving in water, are there any known chemical methods of extracting the oxymorphone? I have a lot of these babies so I'd be willing to experiment on extraction methods. My chemistry knowledge is pretty basic, so I'd probably end up ruining a lot of them before I got it right. But I'm willing to try, for the sake of science :)

God_Albino
07-20-2009, 03:34 AM
bill i've never had opana before, but i'd use the search engine or ask some more experienced folks before you waste a potentially solid shot. i thought it had a reputation as a somewhat easily iv-able drug, at least as easy as ms-contin.

pokergooch
07-20-2009, 03:56 AM
The best way to plug an opana ER is to put the whole pill in a rig with water. Wait about 24 hours (really 12-18 should be good) you will see the pill get like 3x bigger. It has then released most of the drug in the syring. Thats the only descent way I know of beating the timerx or actually, just somewhat bypassing it.

But crushing up an ER is a total waste if your using the needle, now snorting? thats a different story!

I know this works for plugging. Not sure about IV

PG

The IRs are the ones easily bangable. Just use a wheel filter (or just cotton filter the shit out of it)..I dont iv, I have im'd the Ir and they do work quite well.

youwonhundred
07-20-2009, 03:56 AM
from my admittedly limited understanding (I've never used it) its a bitch to get it into a solution you could IV or stick up your ass. don't quote me on that, UTMFSE! :p

Synack
07-20-2009, 01:21 PM
I wouldn't recommend IM'ing the IR's - a buddy of mine got an abscess doing that... stick with IV'ing them, just filter the shit out of them. Now if I could only get rid of the track marks.

IMO your best bet is snorting them - I haven't tried plugging them but I believe the absorption rate would be similar between intranasal and rectal since in both ROA absorption occurs via a mucous membrane

youwonhundred
07-20-2009, 03:26 PM
I wouldn't recommend IM'ing the IR's - a buddy of mine got an abscess doing that... stick with IV'ing them, just filter the shit out of them. Now if I could only get rid of the track marks.

IMO your best bet is snorting them - I haven't tried plugging them but I believe the absorption rate would be similar between intranasal and rectal since in both ROA absorption occurs via a mucous membrane

Is that a polite way of saying "This time, DON'T stick it up your ass"?

pokergooch
07-20-2009, 04:42 PM
I would have to side with Synack. I, too, got a fucking big abcess from the Ir's (because I didnt filter and 6 pills is a shitload of filler) So, that was the last time I did that. Before that, when I im'd I actually accidentally hit a vein and all I can say is "OH MY GOD!" I thought I was going to OD, seriously, this shit shouldnt be taken lightly and I have a monster tolerance.

Oh, and one more thing. Eat a high fat meal just before ROA. Im sure you read this but this is a must with opana!

PG

LeChuck
07-22-2009, 04:03 AM
I wouldn't recommend IM'ing the IR's - a buddy of mine got an abscess doing that... stick with IV'ing them, just filter the shit out of them. Now if I could only get rid of the track marks.

IMO your best bet is snorting them - I haven't tried plugging them but I believe the absorption rate would be similar between intranasal and rectal since in both ROA absorption occurs via a mucous membrane
Usually rectal absorption is best, after injecting obviously... I have plugged morphine pills several times and they are stronger that way than snorting. That tends to be the case, I think, but the downside is plugging is a pain in the ass. Literally...omg I'm hilarious. ;)

Pokergooch I will give that method a try. Thanks

Synack
07-22-2009, 04:12 AM
Usually rectal absorption is best, after injecting obviously... I have plugged morphine pills several times and they are stronger that way than snorting. That tends to be the case, I think, but the downside is plugging is a pain in the ass. Literally...omg I'm hilarious. ;)

Pokergooch I will give that method a try. Thanks

Yeah, with most pills that's true - ie: the IR's would be better plugged than snorted but I beleive the limitation with snorting or plugging opana ER's is the matrix and it's release time...

ShamanicHaze
07-22-2009, 09:18 AM
Why couldn't you just get an oral syringe, crush up the pill and dump it into the chamber, add water to the chamber, and then let it sit for a while. I'm sure you can squirt that gel though an oral syringe if it's already in the chamber.

Synack
07-22-2009, 10:01 PM
Why couldn't you just get an oral syringe, crush up the pill and dump it into the chamber, add water to the chamber, and then let it sit for a while. I'm sure you can squirt that gel though an oral syringe if it's already in the chamber.

I imagine that would work - if you prepped a dose 12 - 24 hours in advance and gave it a shake every now and then and used enough liquid and a large enough syringe, a 1cc rig (10ml) won't cut it - you'll need a few cc's since the crap expands... that stuff gels up pretty well.