Blank scripts....

[lef1000]

Ok, i dont usualy write threads but this is something that I have not read about and would like to know about

The story:

SWIM has recently run into the beauty of getting a few blank scripts signed and all by a hospital MD and knows someone who knows how to write out scripts for 80's and has done so before. Everything will be paid for w/o insurance aka cash and under an alies.

Here is the question:

How many 80's should swim get, also should swim get 80's or just get a bunch of roxi? Also, how much is it going to cost for brand name OC 80's at 60 cnt, 120ct, etc... And also any other advice about how to get the most bang for the buck (pun not intended) would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all for ur help and guidence and I will contine to keep ya'll updatd on SWIMS status throughout the week. :)

[StackBundles]

"You'll shoot your eye out kid."

[EleusisII]

Personally I'd go for either two weeks or a months supply: 30 or 60.
And don't go for 80ies, that'll set off some alarmbells. I'd go for Roxi 30 or 40ies..

Read around on the site, take your precautions. Know what the consequences might be.

If you've been around to different pharmacies, that might be to your advantage: Which ones just fill, and which ones always call around.

If I were you, I'd go at a time where you KNOW that the doc can't be reached (As long as it's not 3 am. on a Saturday night.)

Good luck!

[tonyk]

I don't know, Lef. This sounds incredible to have happened to SWIM. They are a lucky fucker at least!!!! I can only imagine the possibilities...............AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

[lib.sOCialist]

I don't know, Lef. This sounds incredible to have happened to SWIM. They are a lucky fucker at least!!!! I can only imagine the possibilities...............AHHHHHHHHHHH!!!


the only one that comes to mind is an 8x10 prison cell and bland bologna...

[losangeleslifer]

Anything you do, whether it looks legit or not on the script, includes an asshole pucker when you pick up that I personally am not ready to encounter.

Then again your balls may be bigger than mine.

Mine have contracted with age and caution.

Good Luck.

[JonnyMohawk]

Careful man, we had someone on this board about a year ago get busted (and go to jail) for close to what you are trying to do.


The scripts have a DEA number, make sure its there, also don't make it to extravagant... it might raise questions when you show up with a script for 120 oxy 80's... and they almost def. WILL CALL to verify the script at the hospital.



I wish the best, but if it was me, I wouldn't be doing it.


They will ask to see yer ID to verify who you are, and may even photo copy it...

SO BE CAREFUL :]


Best of luck.


also I'm going to make clear my advice... Please don't go through with this.

I know your friend has done it before, but weigh the risks and rewards carefully.

[anykind]

If you know a Dr. who can hook up somethin like that for real I wouldnt do it cause the Dr. will get in just as much trouble as you unless the blank scrpits are stolen or forged? P.S I am really stoned :D

[losangeleslifer]

Thing is, you will get a felony.

The doctor if in co-hoots will get a felony AND loose his/her license. Actually more than you have to loose. Unless your blowing many years of schooling and hard work too.

This is really a dumb idea.

Maybe I should have said "good luck sucker?"

Oh yea, whats up Flounder er, I mean ANykind?!

[youwonhundred]

Do people actually think for a second they can get away with this kind of shit in the days of fucking computer databases? You'll definitely shoot yer eye out, kid. If any doc is stupid enough to even get involved, they don't deserve to be a doctor. I've been on both sides of the opiate fence, from a recreational user to a CP patient, and from one side, I can see myself saying, hey cool, but as a CP patient, I'm thinking, motherfucker its people like you that fuck it up for people who actually need these meds to function. (wow too many fuckin commas)

[nick]

Don't do it.

[Pointy]

I would not do it. No way. To much risk for not enough reward. However that being said, if you do decide to go through with it- for the love of all things holy - don't just write for only schedule two's and nothing else.

Write out CII's plus assorted drugs that treat a specific condition. That is going to involve some research. When a friend of mine gets his oxy he also gets a bag full of other crap. Maybe as many as 10 other pill bottles. He is way fucked up and needs the meds.


Good luck and DO NOT FREAKING DO IT. its just not worth going to the jail house for 3+ years

[OxiContinKing]

Don't do it.

'nuff said.

of course, if you like taking a 100 to 1 chance that you will be caught, and you will go to jail (they wont just slap you on the wrist and say bad boy for this one), and you are confident that you wont wind up another statistic, then by all means, go for it...

if your dumb enough...

Anything you do, whether it looks legit or not on the script, includes an asshole pucker when you pick up that I personally am not ready to encounter.

Then again your balls may be bigger than mine.

Mine have contracted with age and caution.

Good Luck.

dont worry, his balls must be bigger than mine also...

for some reason, though, in this case, im not too jealous...

:cool:

[BrickShitz]

Dont do it, all it does it fuck it up for cp patients that really need it. If youre ever in chronic pain, and cant get any pain medicine, you only have yourself to thank.

[MethadonBoblow]

I personally wouldn't do it but if you do I wouldn't do it but one time. I know a couple people personally that have been busted doing the exact thing you speak of. They thought they were going to be smart and just write one every 30 or so days and never get too many so they wouldn't draw attention. And it did work until one day they go to have one filled and they tell you to come back and pick it up and a cop grabs them up from behind. Another thing to think about is if the scripts just disappeared maybe someone noticed and have a red flag out on them already. So just be smart and don't do anything stupid or you won't be getting shit for along time.

[lef1000]

wow i am so surprised all u guys are sayin this is a bad idea... i thought that if swim used one script at a time and just got like 60 count of lets say oc 60's cuz thats a lil less suspicios, assuming that the latin is all correct on the script (which it would be), that there would be no problem... do u guys really think i have the against swim? this scares swim, swim thought u guys would all be like ur so lucky to have blank signed scripts with dea numbers and everything on them from an ER doc... well swim can have his friend do it for him but that means that swim's friend gets about $700 more in his share of the profit after they have been sold. Swim doenst plan on making this a regular thing maybe just a 3-4 times in swim's life type of thing. The doc is also privvey to whats going on (as far as swim's told, swim cant really be positive on that) and what if swim decided to be safe and just got roxi's? would that be much safer, i.e. less red flags. There will be no ID photocopying so i have no clue why one of u thought about that, thats never hapend. so rite now swim is thinking either make it for like 120 rocxi's or just do the oc 60's and have his friend do it for him. THoughts?

[youwonhundred]

You are a fool, don't even think about it. CII meds are CII meds. You will more than likely get caught and you will go to prison. Morons like you give the rest of us a bad name. You have been told how many times that this is a foolish thing to do? Take the fucking hint, genius.

[Flowergirl]

I give it about a zero that an ER doc ever sees a need to prescribe something like OC 60s. If your pharmacy knows this is an ER doctor, you're hosed.

I also give it a zero that he is willingly and knowingly in on this. A doctor up to these tricks is going to maintain a little more control over that precious piece of paper - who gets it, what pharmacy, what it is written for, etc. He's not just going to start handing out signed blank prescriptions. Oy. Do the math, dude. The risk to reward ratio and all that.

[upstate_007]

I give it about a zero that an ER doc ever sees a need to prescribe something like OC 60s. If your pharmacy knows this is an ER doctor, you're hosed.



That is exactly what I was going to say.

This whole thing has bad idea written all over it. There is a lot more to it than "getting the latin right". And 120 roxis??? Most ER docs will at most write for a couple days supply of pain killers to get you through until you can see your regular doctor. But hey, what the fuck do we all know. Knock your self out.

[barbiegal]

It's so sketchy,really. It's also very possible that the pharmacist knows the local Drs. Also,I highly doubt any dr. would be in to anything like this. What does he gain? Plus he has way too much too lose,as do you.
Really,don't do it. Just shred 'em up.

[insaneike]

I don't think ER's can prescribe a months worth of CII opioids anyway... so you're just being even more stupid for not knowing eevery possible detail of everything ebfore doing something illegal as this. ER's will write out a day or three of opis, and if you already have a toler high enough to legally need OC80s, he will say go to your pain Dr. with the records from what you were at the ER for to begin with. Everytime I've been to the ER for my back hurting real bad(also already in a pain clinic) they give me a shot of demerol, morphine, or dilaudid, and a 4-15 count script of some very weak dose of roxis/percs, dilaudid, or somertimes even lortab! NEver in my life have I received a months script, or even a 20-30count script, of any CII med! The only meds I've received over 30 tabs of from an ER were random non-narcotic meds such as antibiotics and muscle relaxers.

I'm with youwon here, it's fucks like you that make it even worse on us real pain patients. I think you're a peice of shit, if you're in WDs bad enough to go through with this, you're bad enough to go to the fucking ER and tell them you're story and get help, or go to a m'done clinic until you can score again. If you're not even a dependent user, fuck off altogether.

later

[Motown]

wow i am so surprised all u guys are sayin this is a bad idea... i thought that if swim used one script at a time and just got like 60 count of lets say oc 60's cuz thats a lil less suspicios, assuming that the latin is all correct on the script (which it would be), that there would be no problem... do u guys really think i have the against swim? this scares swim, swim thought u guys would all be like ur so lucky to have blank signed scripts with dea numbers and everything on them from an ER doc... well swim can have his friend do it for him but that means that swim's friend gets about $700 more in his share of the profit after they have been sold. Swim doenst plan on making this a regular thing maybe just a 3-4 times in swim's life type of thing. The doc is also privvey to whats going on (as far as swim's told, swim cant really be positive on that) and what if swim decided to be safe and just got roxi's? would that be much safer, i.e. less red flags. There will be no ID photocopying so i have no clue why one of u thought about that, thats never hapend. so rite now swim is thinking either make it for like 120 rocxi's or just do the oc 60's and have his friend do it for him. THoughts?

So... you are going to go through all that trouble just to sell them?

Trust me.... a good friend of mine tried this a few years ago.... unsuccessfully. NOT WORTH IT!


edit: a lot of good advice on here. Please listen to it.

[youwonhundred]

If you're not even a dependent user, fuck off altogether.

No didn't you see, this worthless fuckbag is doing it to sell em. To the OP, I say, if you're that hard up for fucking cash, go get your lame ass on the fucking corner, suck some cocks and earn it. Don't fuck it up for the rest of us.

Asshole.

[Papa Verine]

No didn't you see, this worthless fuckbag is doing it to sell em. To the OP, I say, if you're that hard up for fucking cash, go get your lame ass on the fucking corner, suck some cocks and earn it. Don't fuck it up for the rest of us.

Asshole.

Hahahaha.... That was good U100.

It doesn't sound like the O.P. knows much about what he's planning to do. Maybe he thinks it's 1975. Even if the doctor turned his back and looked the other way as someone stole his scripts, you can be damn sure he's covering his own ass. That's exactly what he's going to tell the police. "Someone stole my scripts". There's a felony right there...

[barbiegal]

^^^ Yep,he's 100% right.

[roxi*stardust]

That is exactly what I was going to say.

This whole thing has bad idea written all over it. There is a lot more to it than "getting the latin right". And 120 roxis??? Most ER docs will at most write for a couple days supply of pain killers to get you through until you can see your regular doctor. But hey, what the fuck do we all know. Knock your self out.

+1

An ER doctor writing for anything more than 10-15 tabs of any type of pain meds, especially OC or roxicodone! LMFAO, you must want to go to jail!

I have an idea, you want t make some money, try getting a job!

[longduckdong]

Im gonna be the first to call bullshit on the OP.... Sounds to me like a post someone did just to stir up a little juice around here. He's got a quick 30-40 replies already.

If this is a truthful post, then, this is a time where putting someone down for the benefit of the human race might be in order.


Just to add: I didnt see anyone mention this. But, I thought you cant just take a CII script in and get it filled anyways. I thought it also has to be confirmed over the phone also. I could be wrong, but I thought this was the case on CII's.

[barbiegal]

I go the same pharmacy every month. They know me and more importantly they know my Dr. As in, they know his writing style,the number of meds he rxs in one script and his handwriting.
But one time my reg. pharm was on vacation and there was like a substitute pharm. and you can bet she asked for my ID and called the Drs. office.

[Restharrow]

Before I would do this, I would walk in to the police station, turn in the scripts, request to sign a confession and ask for a short sentence for my cooperation.

The only way something like this works is IF the doctor OR pharmacist are in cahoots with you.

I have heard about crooked doctors who had friends that they scripted drugs for and then they spit the booty. Unless thats the deal, you are jail bound.

My next door neighbor is a pharmacist and she told me a fake Oxy 80 script has a certain "smell" to it. The good news is when she get one, she tells the script buster, "we don't have the 80's in stock now, but my assistant is calling the doctor now to ask if its OK to substitute 2 of the 40 mg. tabs for each 80. Doctors normally approve that. Due to all the Oxy diversion, there is a 1-800 # that we can get a call back from the doctor's answering service within 30 minutes, no matter what time of day -- unless you are in a hurry and want to go somewhere else, we can have it ready in 35 to 45 minutes". Sometimes they run and sometimes they ask for the script back then run.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

the only one that comes to mind is an 8x10 prison cell and bland bologna...
X2

[StackBundles]

OP... I'll give you the benifit of the doubt here. At least you are asking for advice here.

***This is the aspect of this scenario that rings the bells... If the doctor is in on this, WHY IS HE NOT JUST WRITING OUT THE ACTUAL SCRIPT AND HAVING YOU GUYS GO FILL IT???

***YOU ARE BEING SENT ON A DUMMY MISSION BY THE OTHER DUDE WITH THE BLANKS***

Why in the fuck would he bring you in on this if he can do it himself and stand to make a few extra thousand?

Use your head, stay the fuck away from this shit unless you wanna go to jail. "That other guy" is using you.

GTFO... Don't be stupid.

[Restharrow]

^^^ Thats what I did not understand. ^^^

[lef1000]

OP... I'll give you the benifit of the doubt here. At least you are asking for advice here.
***This is the aspect of this scenario that rings the bells... If the doctor is in on this, WHY IS HE NOT JUST WRITING OUT THE ACTUAL SCRIPT AND HAVING YOU GUYS GO FILL IT???
***YOU ARE BEING SENT ON A DUMMY MISSION BY THE OTHER DUDE WITH THE BLANKS***
Why in the fuck would he bring you in on this if he can do it himself and stand to make a few extra thousand?
Use your head, stay the fuck away from this shit unless you wanna go to jail. "That other guy" is using you.
GTFO... Don't be stupid.

what are u talkin about? I have no idea why the doc is doin this... all i know is that its signed and the guy who is doing this has done it before for 30 cnt OC 80's and was fine... he was thinkin mom and pop store should be best. u guys are making this sound like even if it is written out perfectly that there will likely be a problem, i dont get why.

[mikey5string]

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[JonnyMohawk]

what are u talkin about? I have no idea why the doc is doin this... all i know is that its signed and the guy who is doing this has done it before for 30 cnt OC 80's and was fine... he was thinkin mom and pop store should be best. u guys are making this sound like even if it is written out perfectly that there will likely be a problem, i dont get why.


Seriously?

You don't get why?

First its RARE for an ER doctor to prescribe any amount of OC 80's period.


Second if the pharmacy calls the hospital to verify and talks to say the head ER Doc, asking did Dr. So and So write a prescription to said patient for a months worth of Oxycontin 80mg? Red flags are going to go up and you can bet yer ass you will have a problem.


Third, How do you know your friend isn't using you? Saying 'Hey, a doctor signed this, let me just fill it out and have you go fill it for me and then we can split the profits'.


Perhaps HE SIGNED IT, AND JUST CLAIMED A DOCTOR DID?!?!?!


If the circumstances don't come off as strange to you, then it would appear you lack the intelligence to successfully pull off something like this off in the first place.


but I doubt anything we say will change your mind, so good luck. If we don't see you post in a couple months we will just assume you got arrested.

[longduckdong]

u guys are making this sound like even if it is written out perfectly that there will likely be a problem, i dont get why.

Because as I said before, I believe CII meds also must be approved by phone call in addition to the actual script. Maybe it's just policy for some pharmacy. But that sure is hell isnt a chance I would take. Especially for a few oxys...... Maybe taking a big chance on something like that for a huge score, I can understand. But for a handful of Oxys, with the reprocussions being prison time, isnt worth it to me.

But with your attitude on the situation, and others advice. I say FUCK IT. GO FOR IT BRO!!!.

[youwonhundred]

what are u talkin about? I have no idea why the doc is doin this... all i know is that its signed and the guy who is doing this has done it before for 30 cnt OC 80's and was fine... he was thinkin mom and pop store should be best. u guys are making this sound like even if it is written out perfectly that there will likely be a problem, i dont get why.

Because you are a fucking moron who, as was stated earlier, should be put down for the benefit of mankind. This kind of shit only makes things worse. WHY do you think the laws have gotten so much stricter? Back when I was a kid, I know of a doc who scripted CIII's to a fucking cat. That sort of thing doesn't fly anymore, and with as hard as the feds are cracking down on even legitimate patients, you won't get away with it. I do know, quite well, exactly how a script should read, and I wouldn't even THINK about doing something this stupid. Have you heard of this amazing invention called the computer? Or the telephone? The risk of getting caught is just not worth it. If you have a goddamn brain cell left, USE IT FOR FUCK SAKE. What are you, kid, 12? You have a board full of people telling you it won't work, and WHY it won't work, and you insist on being retarded. No, I take that back, you give the fucking retard community a bad name too.

GTFO troll.

[nick]

what are u talkin about? I have no idea why the doc is doin this... all i know is that its signed and the guy who is doing this has done it before for 30 cnt OC 80's and was fine... he was thinkin mom and pop store should be best. u guys are making this sound like even if it is written out perfectly that there will likely be a problem, i dont get why.

If your "friend" has successfully done this before..........why does he want your help now? This sounds highly dubious.

Even if you get away with it once or twice,eventually you'll get bust.The risk/reward ratio makes it non viable.

Don't do it.


Oh and this is not a cool thing to be doing anyway.If you had a habit and were trying this to stay well,it would be just about ok.Not cool,but ok.To do this to sell and make money is just a really low hustle.

Don't do it.

[EleusisII]

Yeah, 30 or 40 is fine. Not too suspicious. Though I still would go for 40ies and not 80ies. Raises less questions.

Maybe I'm naive, but I doubt that the OP would be lying about something like this. What would the purpose be? There are easier ways of advertising having some for sale, if that would be the purpose.
Anyways, the OP doesn't owe any detailed explanations on the background of this.

Just be aware of the risks involved, and take your precautions. There are ways of minimizing the risk, and not leaving a paper trail.

Plenty of people have warned you about the risk, and yeah, it CAN be risky if you're not careful, but hey, such is the druggame. Anybody buying diverted pharms or H, whether on the street or from a private dealer risks going to the big house.

Plenty of people pull this kind of shit, and get away with it, at least for a while. Scriptforgery is responsible for a good amount of what your dealer has for sale.

SWIM has gotten away with calling in scripts for benzos and OCs, even wrote some himself a couple of times, but he's also been close to getting caught a couple of times.

So whether the risk and the nervewracking involved is worth it, is up to yourself.

[lef1000]

Seriously?

You don't get why?

First its RARE for an ER doctor to prescribe any amount of OC 80's period.


i was mistaken its a regional medical center watever that means, not an ER, my fault. also take a look at this post : http://www.drugs.com/forum/pharmacists/schedule-2-pharmacy-procedure-46915.html
the guy explains how as long as things dont seem sketchy alot of cII's arent called in... u guys are makin me sound like an idiot when im not because i am taking all these precautions to make sure SWIM doesnt get into any danger. Have any of u even tried this? it seems like u guys have a huge atttitude, i was just looking for friendly advice, i KNEW someone people would be assholes but i thought i was going to get some decent advice, esp from some of the members that are veterans on here.

i never said swim was going to do this for 180 OC 80's or somptin rediculous, that would be very expensive to pay for in cash but thats besides the point, im lookin for advice on this from people who have have success or failures at this, and for all u who just think u know and assume that they usualy get the police involved, ur mistaken.

A ton of research is goin into this before it is executed, i thought this board would be able to help not just make fun of me. :( honestly

[youwonhundred]

What did you do, OP, google prescription forgery? Is that your research? You got the BEST advice you'll ever get in your life here. Don't.

[nick]

i was mistaken its a regional medical center watever that means, not an ER, my fault. also take a look at this post : http://www.drugs.com/forum/pharmacists/schedule-2-pharmacy-procedure-46915.html
the guy explains how as long as things dont seem sketchy alot of cII's arent called in... u guys are makin me sound like an idiot when im not because i am taking all these precautions to make sure SWIM doesnt get into any danger. Have any of u even tried this? it seems like u guys have a huge atttitude, i was just looking for friendly advice, i KNEW someone people would be assholes but i thought i was going to get some decent advice, esp from some of the members that are veterans on here.

i never said swim was going to do this for 180 OC 80's or somptin rediculous, that would be very expensive to pay for in cash but thats besides the point, im lookin for advice on this from people who have have success or failures at this, and for all u who just think u know and assume that they usualy get the police involved, ur mistaken.

A ton of research is goin into this before it is executed, i thought this board would be able to help not just make fun of me. :( honestly

Friendly advice........you've been given some excellent advice.

and yes,I used to do a variation on this to feed my habit 20 years ago.Before technology,when the risk was less and that made it worthwhile.Nowdays only a fool (yes E,that includes you) would try it.

Still,maybe you and E will get to share a cell.

[Motown]

i was mistaken its a regional medical center watever that means, not an ER, my fault. also take a look at this post : http://www.drugs.com/forum/pharmacists/schedule-2-pharmacy-procedure-46915.html
the guy explains how as long as things dont seem sketchy alot of cII's arent called in... u guys are makin me sound like an idiot when im not because i am taking all these precautions to make sure SWIM doesnt get into any danger. Have any of u even tried this? it seems like u guys have a huge atttitude, i was just looking for friendly advice, i KNEW someone people would be assholes but i thought i was going to get some decent advice, esp from some of the members that are veterans on here.

i never said swim was going to do this for 180 OC 80's or somptin rediculous, that would be very expensive to pay for in cash but thats besides the point, im lookin for advice on this from people who have have success or failures at this, and for all u who just think u know and assume that they usualy get the police involved, ur mistaken.

A ton of research is goin into this before it is executed, i thought this board would be able to help not just make fun of me. :( honestly


OK then.... my friends experience was a failure. Seriously.

[longduckdong]

the guy explains how as long as things dont seem sketchy alot of cII's arent called in

"A lot of CIIs are not called in"???? You answered the question right there. Why the fuck take the chance on something, when there is still a good chance it gets called in?

it seems like u guys have a huge atttitude, i was just looking for friendly advice, i KNEW someone people would be assholes but i thought i was going to get some decent advice, esp from some of the members that are veterans on here.

You're going to learn that you're probably going to have MUCH more trouble getting advice on anything from now on. No matter what it is. Especially if you keep up the "name calling" and pointing figures about attitude.

The attitude we have, is you seem very naive about the situation. If the situation with your friend doesnt sound fishy to begin with to you, then you might be missing a few.... Thats even before we're talking CII drugs, in a minimal amount, for a small profit....... The attitude comes here. Where you cant see how this screams something isnt right to begin with. And then screams prison time.

Fuck it dogg. Go fucking do it..... I think all the advice we've given you has been plenty. You still seem to have a chip on your shoulder about it.... So go fucking do it.. Thats a challenge.

[nick]

It's also worth pointing out that scamming pharmacies can be pretty addictive behaviour in itself.

[barbiegal]

I'm pretty sure that OC can't be called in over the phone. Niether can fentanyl patches or even percocets.

[nick]

I'm pretty sure that OC can't be called in over the phone. Niether can fentanyl patches or even percocets.

and?

[longduckdong]

I'm pretty sure that OC can't be called in over the phone. Niether can fentanyl patches or even percocets.

No they cant... But I think most pharmacys have the policy of calling a confirmation when CII scripts are brought in.

[barbiegal]

Especially if they don't know you,yeah they'll call. And Nick? The reason I stated that OC cannot be called in because I'm a nurse. The OP said something about calling in OC and I,as you,have also done a variation of the same thing many years ago before the hammer came down.
I get a script of OC every month and the pharm. knows me. But more importantly they know my Dr.

[Flowergirl]

Sounds like you have your mind made up. Of course you *might* get away with it. No one is saying you're absolutely positively going to get caught. The point is that the risk is too great. You're banking on the mood or behavior of someone whom you have no control over (the pharmacist), and in plain English, the risk isn't worth the reward. That's what we're trying to say.

For reals. You asked opinions, and now you don't like them. If you're gonna go do your thing anyway, why even ask? Just don't drop the soap.

[nick]

Especially if they don't know you,yeah they'll call. And Nick? The reason I stated that OC cannot be called in because I'm a nurse. The OP said something about calling in OC and I,as you,have also done a variation of the same thing many years ago before the hammer came down.
I get a script of OC every month and the pharm. knows me. But more importantly they know my Dr.

I'm not arguing with the validity of your statement,just didn't see how it was relevant to this guy.

Apologise,I guess I'm frustrated because the guys being so dumb.

[barbiegal]

We're cool. Thanks.

[youwonhundred]

I'm not arguing with the validity of your statement,just didn't see how it was relevant to this guy.

Apologise,I guess I'm frustrated because the guys being so dumb.

It is always possible, as someone stated before, that this thread was posted merely to elicit a reaction. Maybe if we stop feeding the troll it will go back under its bridge, where hopefully, there is no wifi.

[Lady*Sub]

I'm so confused - if the doc is willing to put his John Hancock on that RX why not just go all the way and fill it out so SWIMS won't even have the hassle??? OR FUCK at least tell SWIMS what to write on it and you just copy it on the signed one ---- all of this smells like a hooka's pussay that hasn't been washed in a month due to no $$ and a shitty economy

also to the OP - I'm thinking you should try to get some pen pals that are in central lockup or something bc the responses YOU WANT are not going to come from this group.. you can't ask for advice going into it all one-sided/minded - YA JUST CAN'T it's a fucking RULE!

besides all of that I'm agitated that this TARD of a thread has 4 pages of advice to someone who obv. doesn't know any better or want it

and yet here I am posting...

[upstate_007]

i was mistaken its a regional medical center watever that means, not an ER, my fault. also take a look at this post : http://www.drugs.com/forum/pharmacists/schedule-2-pharmacy-procedure-46915.html
the guy explains how as long as things dont seem sketchy alot of cII's arent called in... u guys are makin me sound like an idiot when im not because i am taking all these precautions to make sure SWIM doesnt get into any danger. Have any of u even tried this? it seems like u guys have a huge atttitude, i was just looking for friendly advice, i KNEW someone people would be assholes but i thought i was going to get some decent advice, esp from some of the members that are veterans on here.

i never said swim was going to do this for 180 OC 80's or somptin rediculous, that would be very expensive to pay for in cash but thats besides the point, im lookin for advice on this from people who have have success or failures at this, and for all u who just think u know and assume that they usualy get the police involved, ur mistaken.

A ton of research is goin into this before it is executed, i thought this board would be able to help not just make fun of me. :( honestly

What it all comes down to is this.........

If you have to use google and a web forum to find out how to do it....you might not be ready for it.

Everyone is just looking out for you for the most part. Honestly, it 'sounds' like your 'friend' is setting you up. If I can make a few thousand doing something, I am probably not going to let someone else in on the deal unless it benefits me in some way. Like getting you to put your ass on the line instead of him. Or having you walk into what he fears might be a trap.

Think it over.

[Restharrow]

what are u talkin about? I have no idea why the doc is doin this... all i know is that its signed and the guy who is doing this has done it before for 30 cnt OC 80's and was fine... he was thinkin mom and pop store should be best. u guys are making this sound like even if it is written out perfectly that there will likely be a problem, i dont get why.
Does the "math" add up correctly in the DEA NUMBER?

[nick]

What it all comes down to is this.........

If you have to use google and a web forum to find out how to do it....you might not be ready for it.

Everyone is just looking out for you for the most part. Honestly, it 'sounds' like your 'friend' is setting you up. If I can make a few thousand doing something, I am probably not going to let someone else in on the deal unless it benefits me in some way. Like getting you to put your ass on the line instead of him. Or having you walk into what he fears might be a trap.

Think it over.

Or maybe the guy's a true friend who just wants to share his good fortune with the op.

Jesus,it was hard typing that with a straight face.

[Restharrow]

i was mistaken its a regional medical center watever that means, not an ER, my fault. also take a look at this post : http://www.drugs.com/forum/pharmacists/schedule-2-pharmacy-procedure-46915.html :( honestly
So it will be open 24 hours per day to verify the validity of the script? This just sounds worse and worse.

[upstate_007]

Or maybe the guy's a true friend who just wants to share his good fortune with the op.

Jesus,it was hard typing that with a straight face.

I couldn't even read that without smiling.

[Shadowsblaze]

Me tinks this be a fairy tale. A story of makeabelieve. Fabrication at its worst. Me no like such deception. Full of da baloney he would eat if it were true, and no luxury 8x10 more like 6x8. Later

[EleusisII]

They don't need to speak with the doctor, anyone can have a look at the chart and confirm or not. It usually takes awhile though, which will be your chance to get the script back and haul ass.

In my experience it's a crapshot whether they call or not. Some pharmacists do it religiously, others don't. That goes for OCs too IME.
One thing you might consider is to get a cellphone from Walmart, payed with cash, call a pharmacy and tell them that you're calling from a pharmacy yourself. You just called and confirmed the script and it's legit, but you don't have enough to fill it, and the customer doesn't live nearby. Do you have whatever in a generic version on stock? 15 mins later you show up, hand them the script and tell them that you just came from the other pharmacy.
Reason why I'm saying this, is because I had a similar experience one time.
Pharmacies have chain numbers btw. Make sure you get that if you try.

That's why it's a good idea to go on a Sunday or at a time where you KNOW that the doc won't be there.
If they start calling and tell you, that you have to come back later because they didn't get ahold of the doc, just calmly ask for the script back, so you can take it to a pharmacy where they "know the doctor" or something similar.

The tricky part isn't just getting the lingo (oxycodone ER 80 mg 1 tab bid) right. The tricky part is making the writing look just the right ineligible way. Doctors write dozens of scripts every day for years.
A doctors writing is pretty hard to emulate.

Calling in scripts is easier. But it's also easier to get caught, besides the fact that CIIs can't be called in in the states.

But anyways, look around the site to pick up some good advice, and if you have any specific questions, maybe someone can help you, once you outline exactly what you plan on doing.

[dieselbaby]

You are a fool, don't even think about it. CII meds are CII meds. You will more than likely get caught and you will go to prison. Morons like you give the rest of us a bad name. You have been told how many times that this is a foolish thing to do? Take the fucking hint, genius.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

So is this guy arrested yet or rich??

[lef1000]

They don't need to speak with the doctor, anyone can have a look at the chart and confirm or not. It usually takes awhile though, which will be your chance to get the script back and haul ass.

In my experience it's a crapshot whether they call or not. Some pharmacists do it religiously, others don't. That goes for OCs too IME.
One thing you might consider is to get a cellphone from Walmart, payed with cash, call a pharmacy and tell them that you're calling from a pharmacy yourself. You just called and confirmed the script and it's legit, but you don't have enough to fill it, and the customer doesn't live nearby. Do you have whatever in a generic version on stock? 15 mins later you show up, hand them the script and tell them that you just came from the other pharmacy.
Reason why I'm saying this, is because I had a similar experience one time.
Pharmacies have chain numbers btw. Make sure you get that if you try.

That's why it's a good idea to go on a Sunday or at a time where you KNOW that the doc won't be there.
If they start calling and tell you, that you have to come back later because they didn't get ahold of the doc, just calmly ask for the script back, so you can take it to a pharmacy where they "know the doctor" or something similar.

The tricky part isn't just getting the lingo (oxycodone ER 80 mg 1 tab bid) right. The tricky part is making the writing look just the right ineligible way. Doctors write dozens of scripts every day for years.
A doctors writing is pretty hard to emulate.

Calling in scripts is easier. But it's also easier to get caught, besides the fact that CIIs can't be called in in the states.

But anyways, look around the site to pick up some good advice, and if you have any specific questions, maybe someone can help you, once you outline exactly what you plan on doing.


yo ty for giving me actual advice and being helpful. much appreciated. i am going to do some research and let u guys in on some more details either tonight or tommorow, but i am goin to wait a few days before swim does this operation. from wat swim has found, the chance of the cops being called in it slim to almost nothing. with that being said i swill have swim gather his thoughts and will let u guys know wat is being decided and any more great advice like what this guy did would be much appreciated. guys please dont hate i come here for honest advice not to be told im an idiot. ill keep u guys updated and will prob end up gettin 60 80's and payin cash and sunday morning sounds good to swim, polo shirts and cleaned shaved and friendly seems to be the way to go. i am goin to continue my research for swim and let u all know any updates. cheers

[lef1000]

Does the "math" add up correctly in the DEA NUMBER?


explain wat u mean by this... i have the DEA number as it is already in the script but I do not know much about wat it means... the DEA number and all the other numbers are the same in both scipts.

and to those who don't believe this is true, I could have swim send a picture message eaily, but honestly, its not worth the risk to put this doc's info out there just to prove myself... i will def take a pic of the merchandise if and when this all goes down as proof so everyone knows :0

[nick]

explain wat u mean by this... i have the DEA number as it is already in the script but I do not know much about wat it means... the DEA number and all the other numbers are the same in both scipts.

and to those who don't believe this is true, I could have swim send a picture message eaily, but honestly, its not worth the risk to put this doc's info out there just to prove myself... i will def take a pic of the merchandise if and when this all goes down as proof so everyone knows :0

Sadly,I believe you and we really don't need to see photos of your crime,man.Posting photos would be even dumber than doing it in the first place.

[lef1000]

What it all comes down to is this.........

If you have to use google and a web forum to find out how to do it....you might not be ready for it.

Everyone is just looking out for you for the most part. Honestly, it 'sounds' like your 'friend' is setting you up. If I can make a few thousand doing something, I am probably not going to let someone else in on the deal unless it benefits me in some way. Like getting you to put your ass on the line instead of him. Or having you walk into what he fears might be a trap.

Think it over.


i am still thinking this over and am not 100% yet so i have an open mind. Swim does not know the doc personally, swim has no idea why someone would sell him 2 signed scipts that are real and blank, swim does not understand why a doc would risk his livelyhood by signing a blank script, but w/e, these arae the cards that have been dealt, and unless this is a GIANT set up from the DEA everything should be fine... assuming the scipt is written proper (which it will be cuz the kid has done it before and knows his material) again please stop calling me an idiot, I promise u I'm hardly an idiot.

any advice about dea numbers and that shit on the script and wat it means would be apprecaited... i think alot of u guys are grossly exagerating the risks involved in this and while some of u have good intentions, others are just trying to upset me and call me names which is uncalled for, but this is an internet forum so i expect it. OK i have written enough for now. back to u guys. Ill be back tommorow after reading some (hopefuly) helpful posts and will let u know how everything goes down.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

Take a look at all the replies.... Surely it's telling you something.

[youwonhundred]

So is this guy arrested yet or rich??

No idea, but its a safe bet he's still fucking stupid.

[God_Albino]

dude not a single pharmacy here will fill cII's without calling, i'm sure you or whoever is gonna fuck up something grossly if not many things, they wont even need to call the doc after one look at this shit.

id honestly feel safer getting some bros together and throwing a brick through a ma and pa pharm than trying some shit like this nowadays man. both small-time places that got robbed around here just give up the drugs, nobodys been identified, caught, they know dudes are WHITE. thats it.

dont fuck up your life over that either, but im saying even armed robbery seems smarter at this point, because there's at least a possibility it will work.

[Spikey]

Obviously you (OP) are going to have to learn for yourself. I'll tell you SWIM's experience. Several years ago SWIM was in a bad place emotionally and got the stupid idea of calling in scripts. SWIM called in several times, not CII of course, but vicodin.

When it worked, SWIM thought she was very smart & of course repeated it. SWIM got caught, the pharmacist said they had the prescription & while they were ringing it up the police were coming in behind SWIM. That day had to be one of the worse days of SWIM's life. Long story short --on top of theft & forgery charges SWIM was charged with identity theft, because of course the prescription wasn't in SWIM's name. Nobody likes identity theft & even if it's not what one thinks of tradiionally as "identify theft" there are no descriptions on your record when someone checks. So a potential employer sees "Identify theft", no more potential.

There is no way it is worth all that, no way.

[jersey_emt]

explain wat u mean by this... i have the DEA number as it is already in the script but I do not know much about wat it means... the DEA number and all the other numbers are the same in both scipts.

and to those who don't believe this is true, I could have swim send a picture message eaily, but honestly, its not worth the risk to put this doc's info out there just to prove myself... i will def take a pic of the merchandise if and when this all goes down as proof so everyone knows :0

This just goes to further prove that you have absolutely no idea what you are getting yourself into.

DEA numbers aren't just given out sequentially....like doctor A has #CG6264183 and doctor B has #CG6264184. DEA numbers are self-validating, just like credit card numbers. The number has to validate using a mathematical formula.

CONTROLLED substances means that they are STRICTLY CONTROLLED.

Just don't fucking do this. Seriously. If your 'friend' hasn't had any problems doing this before then why the fuck does he need you to complete this transaction? He's not a friend, he is just looking for someone naive enough to pull this scam for him so he himself doesn't get thrown in jail.

But in the end, do whatever the hell you want to do. People are warning you left and right of the dangers of this but all you see is dollar signs and getting high. The fact that so many different people are telling you why this is a REALLY FUCKING BAD IDEA should tell you something....but obviously it hasn't.

[lef1000]

This just goes to further prove that you have absolutely no idea what you are getting yourself into.

DEA numbers aren't just given out sequentially....like doctor A has #CG6264183 and doctor B has #CG6264184. DEA numbers are self-validating, just like credit card numbers. The number has to validate using a mathematical formula.

CONTROLLED substances means that they are STRICTLY CONTROLLED.

Just don't fucking do this. Seriously. If your 'friend' hasn't had any problems doing this before then why the fuck does he need you to complete this transaction? He's not a friend, he is just looking for someone naive enough to pull this scam for him so he himself doesn't get thrown in jail.

But in the end, do whatever the hell you want to do. People are warning you left and right of the dangers of this but all you see is dollar signs and getting high. The fact that so many different people are telling you why this is a REALLY FUCKING BAD IDEA should tell you something....but obviously it hasn't.


i just found out how to check the math of the dea number and it checks out to be CORRECT :) phew.. thats deff good i got scared for a second. my friend wrote it but had his buddy go to the pharm to actualy do the deed and that worked... i dont understand how u can say its a scam, espo cuz swim did this on his on volition and convinced his friend to join up

[jersey_emt]

i just found out how to check the math of the dea number and it checks out to be CORRECT :) phew.. thats deff good i got scared for a second. my friend wrote it but had his buddy go to the pharm to actualy do the deed and that worked... i dont understand how u can say its a scam, espo cuz swim did this on his on volition and convinced his friend to join up

Sure, you may be able to do this once without getting caught. Maybe twice without getting caught. Hell, maybe ten times without getting caught. But that doesn't change the fact that forging prescriptions is one of the most stupid things you can do in this day and age. If you are just looking to get pills, there are better ways to do so with much lower chances of being thrown in jail. If you're just looking to make some money, there are better ways to do so with much lower chances of being thrown in jail.

You have REPEATEDLY had many people who break the law DAILY to get their fix tell you why forging scripts is a HORRIBLE idea.

If you STILL can't understand why this is an ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE IDEA....then there really is nothing else left to say.

[youwonhundred]

then there really is nothing else left to say.

Yes, there actually is. "Say hello to Bubba."

And, as was mentioned before, "Don't drop the soap."

[Lu_cid]

Running scripts never ends well. Its more or less a one way ticket to prison. Best of luck to swim, be careful.

[youwonhundred]

Running scripts never ends well. Its more or less a one way ticket to prison. Best of luck to swim, be careful.

SWIM gonna drown.

[squareone]

This topic should be against the rules, or make a sticky about it. Such a waste of time.

[youwonhundred]

This topic should be against the rules, or make a sticky about it. Such a waste of time.

This entire thread either sounds like some kid trying to sound cool and failing miserably, some pig trying to entrap a motherfucker, or some junkie dealer trying to sell shit, which IS against the rules.

20 posts in 2 years? i know its almost morning, but its not time for bacon YET.

[struggler]

Swim had a similar scam a few years back where swim would soak some scripts written for worthless drugs in BRAKE FLUID... ya know the kind you put in your automobile... It pulls all the pen ink out of the paper, leaving just the laser print. Swim would dry in an oven with the door cracked open at about 120 degrees.. Then he'd write it for 60 oxy 80s and go fill.. Of course always after 6pm when the office was closed. Swim did it for a year, but the doc office finally found out. Swim stopped of course and he never got in any trouble. If you are smart enough, or dumb enough.. It can be done if you do it right.. i.e. dont do try to fill in full blown WD's... Thats what swim's mistake was, but he still got in no trouble. Oh and the way swim knew the doc found out is the pharmacy wouldnt fill it and said they were keeping the script and had to call the doctor in the morning to verify.. Swim never went back.

Strug

[JonnyMohawk]

This topic should be against the rules


I completely disagree... Topics like these are the ones that most def SHOULDN'T be against the rules.


If one retarded topic can make someone question whether or not a certain action is going to ruin there life, then I say it did its job.

and maybe we didn't change this guys mind, but perhaps someone else is considering prescription forgery, comes across this thread and changes there mind, or even changes the mind of someone else.

Lets be reminded this is about Harm Reduction...

and few things are more harmful to ones life, then getting a felony record and or going to jail for multiple years.

[Synack]

Do it! oMgz i Iz so fukn jelous of u d00d.

Is this what you wanted to hear? We may be addicts & chronic pain patients but we're not fucking stupid... dope in jail ain't the same.

Your "friend" could have printed up these prescriptions himself because for all you know, he could be trying to start a mail order prescription/direct Rx online business, etc. and now he's trying to test out his handiwork before he sells them online to the masses...

I seriously doubt a real doctor would risk losing his license like that - plus, a real quack would fill out the prescription completely, document some shit in the charts to make it seem legit then charge a few hundred bucks - not sell a blank 'script so some punk ass kid can fuck up the rest and then snitch on the Doc just for a deal - getting them both caught.

Or you could be full of shit and trolling or looking to solicit - In either situation, your rear end is going to be sore from the ban stick rape for trolling/soliciting or from Bubba's love rod as he strokes your hair and calls you Carol (or Pretty Boy, Fish, etc.).

Is it really worth the risk of passing off a fake prescription or getting bust when they call to verify? I'm surprised no one has suggested passing it off to someone in severe chronic pain knowing they'd shoot first and ask questions later if it meant getting relief.

[at&t]

I don't know folks.... For some reason, I always had a certain.... Admiration for folks who COULD SUCCESSFULLY pull off the fake prescription scam. Well... Not "admiration" exactly, but.... More of a "Morbid Fascination", maybe-- like watching a snake charmer or a sword swallower or... I don't know... a tightrope-unicycling saber-juggling act .... folks doing really dangerous stupid crap that normal people never would even think of...

I mean-- struggler.. Brake Fluid, is it? I guess that its possible that I might be the only one here who hasn't heard of it, but that sounds really clever, you know...... :)

I used to know this dude who had fake Caller ID, Fake Office Letterhead, fake call-in Phone numbers, Fake (scammed from other pharmacies) DEA numbers, some of everything... (and of course the snake bit him in the end and he got caught.)

But I guess part of the reaction to him and his scam was... as the first person who responded to this thread had said: "god damn... y'alls balls are plenty bigger than mine man...."

It always seemed like the most... needlessly dangerous.... flamboyantly dangerous.... way to try to stay well...

I don't know... Cheers all, at&t

[mikey5string]

when they tell you to come back in 30 min to pick them up, make sure you wear something comfortable....and don't leave the car running ;)

[Mulch]

Swim just could not resist posting on this thread....

To the OP:

Swim thinks that some people on here are being harsh to the OP, although swim can see why there is some anger/frustration about the situation and subject in general. OP, swim can't say your an idiot like the rest b/c swim does not know you. Swim does think what your doing is a stupid idea, but that's just swim's opinion. Somebody said it best earlier (credit to the poster who said it, swim's just too lazy to go back and find it:p) along the lines that if you play the game or get diverted medicine you are taking a risk, as with purchasing or receiving any illegal substance. It is what it is.

So OP, swim would not do it and will join the masses with saying don't do it/bad idea. But if you choose to go through anyways, good luck and be safe, and enjoy whatever you get. It all comes down to risk and reward in swim's book but, swim would never even think about doing something of this nature.

PS Something about the situation sounds fishy to swim as well OP.

[EleusisII]

(credit to the poster who said it, swim's just too lazy to go back and find it:p) along the lines that if you play the game or get diverted medicine you are taking a risk, as with purchasing or receiving any illegal substance. It is what it is.

That was me, and why thank you!

This topic should be against the rules, or make a sticky about it. Such a waste of time.

I compeletely agree! I've also noticed a lot of posts about heroin recently, another topic that should get the ban-axe.
Along with any topics about people abusing their meds, any form of IV-use and all references to criminal activity.

Actually, since opiophile is about harm-reduction, let's torch the whole place, and leave a couple of the bupe threads up!

[longduckdong]

I compeletely agree! I've also noticed a lot of posts about heroin recently, another topic that should get the ban-axe.
Along with any topics about people abusing their meds, any form of IV-use and all references to criminal activity.

That sounds just like another site Ive seen with the initials BL.
That site just sucks ass worse than anything ever.

[Shadowsblaze]

[QUOTE=Synack;400884]Do it! oMgz i Iz so fukn jelous of u d00d.



I seriously doubt a real doctor would risk losing his license like that - plus, a real quack would fill out the prescription completely, document some shit in the charts to make it seem legit then charge a few hundred bucks - not sell a blank 'script so some punk ass kid can fuck up the rest and then snitch on the Doc just for a deal - getting them both caught.

Or you could be full of shit and trolling or looking to solicit - In either situation, your rear end is going to be sore from the ban stick rape for trolling/soliciting or from Bubba's love rod as he strokes your hair and calls you Carol (or Pretty Boy, Fish, etc.).


These are my thoughts, I'd like to see a pic of one of these scripts without signature of course

[libertine]

I compeletely agree! I've also noticed a lot of posts about heroin recently, another topic that should get the ban-axe.
Along with any topics about people abusing their meds, any form of IV-use and all references to criminal activity.

Actually, since opiophile is about harm-reduction, let's torch the whole place, and leave a couple of the bupe threads up!

ahahahha :)

[Duckfeet]

I'll say the same thing I always say, when this type of thread comes up: sometimes you *do* get away with it...same as robbing drugstores--or liquor stores, for that matter--but like they told me: You get away with it once, and you always figure you'll get away with it twice...you never stop at one...you only *get* stopped.

I never paid much attention to anybody, and that makes for good stories, looking backwards, I guess. but from the get-go, when I hit my first commercial drug access point...I was ready to do a stretch, and eventually did...

Not to be corny or repeat what's already been said: but don't do the crime, if you can't do the time...cuz you won't be the first Opy we've said good-by to for a while...me, if I was going to do it, I'da done done it already...sometimes it's just bubblegum, on here...and sometimes not...

On the other hand, bullshit reigns too: you never know what somebody's really done...as we all be good storytellers...

[Badly Drawn Girl]

My only advice (beyond all the advice already given) is find a pharmacy where you can post up and hear any phone calls being made by the pharmacist. That's how I learned my gig was up back in the old days and was able to quickly get the hell out of dodge. And as others have said, can it work? Yep. Will it work for long? Nope. Are the risks worth it? Not in my book, but we all live and learn.

[Madam Oxy]

This thread has been going on for about 3 days. It's Saturday, offices are usually closed. Do it already if you're going to!

[krinkov]

Ok. This is all I have to add:

First of all, even though these guys are all giving you a hard time, they really are trying to keep you out of trouble. In their own head, they are protecting you from yourself. Sometimes we need that. I wish I would have had that kick in the ass before I OD'ed in a Home Depot. I might have done a test shot first. Oh well. You know what they say about hind sight being 20/20. lol! :confused:


I was going to type more,but I just did a nice big shot and keep nodding out. Maybe I'll add more later. So,,,, good night ya'll!!! I will TTYL!!!
Krinkov

[JeSt]

All I`m going to say, is that I agree with what has been said already. Don`t do it/bad idea.


...But, on another note, dude, it's 3:10AM, Sunday morning. Did you do it, or what? Huh? Huh? ;)

[youwonhundred]

All I`m going to say, is that I agree with what has been said already. Don`t do it/bad idea.


...But, on another note, dude, it's 3:10AM, Sunday morning. Did you do it, or what? Huh? Huh? ;)

Probably not. I'm willing to bet money I don't even have that it was a pathetic attempt to look cool or hardcore, or badass. Whatever.

[EleusisII]

You know what this reminds me of? Remember those newbies, who post stuff like "I'm 21, and was wondering how I can talk my doctor into putting me on Oxycontin for long term use! What medical condition can I fake? Any good advice? PS: Hydros fucking rooock man!"

We haven't had those posts in awhile...

A shame really, cause my trusty stock of ironic-yet-mocking-oneliners haven't been dusted off in awhile!

[bodytec]

i'm not quuuuiiiittte that smart,or i would be very daynejuus!

[bodytec]

Ok. This is all I have to add:

First of all, even though these guys are all giving you a hard time, they really are trying to keep you out of trouble. In their own head, they are protecting you from yourself. Sometimes we need that. I wish I would have had that kick in the ass before I OD'ed in a Home Depot. I might have done a test shot first. Oh well. You know what they say about hind sight being 20/20. lol! :confused:


I was going to type more,but I just did a nice big shot and keep nodding out. Maybe I'll add more later. So,,,, good night ya'll!!! I will TTYL!!!
Krinkov

K,i love your raw urge to get loaded,
but it's wierd to speak about learning lessons...
this is the young 'phile gen. right here folks

[bodytec]

You know what this reminds me of? Remember those newbies, who post stuff like "I'm 21, and......

We haven't had those posts in awhile...

A shame really, cause my trusty stock of ironic-yet-mocking-oneliners haven't been dusted off in awhile!

bring 'em back,do it E!

[lef1000]

im not trying to get attention just doing my research for another day or 2, hell maybe 3 or more... i appreciate everyone that is lookin out for swim's best interest and wanna take the time to thank them, with that being said, i think they are grossly over-exagerating the realistic risk, and while i do not believe this "scam" to work forever, it isn't that horrible short-term... actually i dunno cuz it only takes one time to get caught and all.... anyways i digress, im doin my hw and will wait till I here more about who this doc is who signed this before any decision is made... I really thought u all would be supportive rather then stingingly cautionary, but thats neither here nor there, I did not make this post for everyone to say "OMG UR SOO COOL", it was made with the intent that knowledge would be accrued, having said that ty to all who have helped whether for or against. I shall keep ya'll updated, but I have a good feeling this will work out for the best.

[nick]

im not trying to get attention just doing my research for another day or 2, hell maybe 3 or more... i appreciate everyone that is lookin out for swim's best interest and wanna take the time to thank them, with that being said, i think they are grossly over-exagerating the realistic risk, and while i do not believe this "scam" to work forever, it isn't that horrible short-term... actually i dunno cuz it only takes one time to get caught and all.... anyways i digress, im doin my hw and will wait till I here more about who this doc is who signed this before any decision is made... I really thought u all would be supportive rather then stingingly cautionary, but thats neither here nor there, I did not make this post for everyone to say "OMG UR SOO COOL", it was made with the intent that knowledge would be accrued, having said that ty to all who have helped whether for or against. I shall keep ya'll updated, but I have a good feeling this will work out for the best.

You still haven't explained the docs and your friends motives for this scam.

and it only takes getting caught once to ruin your life.A handful of pills for a ruined life.......does that seem like a good deal? If it does,can I interest you in buying some magic beans?

As I say,don't do it and believe it or not,that is supportive...............we don't want to see something bad happen to you.

[barbiegal]

"GROSSLY EXAGERATING?"...really? Grossly?:confused: I'm worried about you kiddo,but you're gonna do what you're gonna do. (sigh)...

[Badly Drawn Girl]

I really thought u all would be supportive rather then stingingly cautionary, but thats neither here nor there, I did not make this post for everyone to say "OMG UR SOO COOL", it was made with the intent that knowledge would be accrued, having said that ty to all who have helped whether for or against. .

What I love about this community is that people will tell you the TRUTH. Not necessarily what you want to hear, but most people are not going to bullshit you. The fact of the matter is that many have already been there, done that. And we hope that by sharing our experiences we can prevent another opio member from making the same mistake. You have received excellent advice on this thread, take it or leave it. :)

[JeSt]

Dude.. You`re missing the point of what everybody is saying. Regardless of how much "homework" you do, the people @ the pharmacy aren`t stupid. But yo, good luck, kid. If we don`t hear from you, we know what`s happening.
...DON`T DROP THE SOAP! You won`get narcotic pain pills [legally] for being sodomized with broom-sticks, or penises in prison. So, just be careful, brah.

[youwonhundred]

Just a minor little point here... IF (and thats a big word) someone who shall remain nameless did this sort of thing, and (supposing for one second) got away with it, what happens when some bean counter at some alphabet soup named federal agency (or state medical board) decides to wonder about why this doctor wrote someone a script with no documentation, wouldn't THIS VERY THREAD constitute intent, and likely as not, be viewed as an admission of guilt? Posting about it, in this instance is just.. dumb? Doing it at all is dumb, but talking about it on a website that could be found as easily as searching google... Sheer idiocy.

Talking about getting high is one thing. Discussing the pros and cons of kiting fake scripts is a whore of a different color.

[upstate_007]

Just a minor little point here... IF (and thats a big word) someone who shall remain nameless did this sort of thing, and (supposing for one second) got away with it, what happens when some bean counter at some alphabet soup named federal agency (or state medical board) decides to wonder about why this doctor wrote someone a script with no documentation, wouldn't THIS VERY THREAD constitute intent, and likely as not, be viewed as an admission of guilt? Posting about it, in this instance is just.. dumb? Doing it at all is dumb, but talking about it on a website that could be found as easily as searching google... Sheer idiocy.

Talking about getting high is one thing. Discussing the pros and cons of kiting fake scripts is a whore of a different color.

C'mon. You're "grossly exaggerating" things again. why can't you just be "supportive". He is going to study up on pharmacy scams for at least another day or two. I'm sure he has already thought of everything.

[youwonhundred]

C'mon. You're "grossly exaggerating" things again. why can't you just be "supportive". He is going to study up on pharmacy scams for at least another day or two. I'm sure he has already thought of everything.

Yeah I know, I should totally stop all this exaggeration. I'm sure he's thought of every possible angle. Everything google could possibly tell him, except the sinking feeling in your gut when the cuffs click home.

[limitless_euphoria]

There's just something I can't shake that gives me a real bad vibe... I've taken college level stat, lemme break it down:

1st time: you go to a Mom & Pop Shop, let's say they don't verify--you're home free! Now what's that going to do, make you JUST a little bit cockier. The next time maybe you won't be 100% as careful as you were the 1st time and you'll end up in jail then prison.

Or, it could go totally wrong on your first time and you're fucked.

I was told by a police officer who came in to speak to our high school class about crime 15 years ago that, "Most criminals DO NOT get caught on their first time--then they get progressively greedier and greedier and ultimately, 9 times out of 10, that is their undoing."

If ya look at it, it's the same as dude who sling weight. They get greedy and start serving anyone and then everyone. The next thing you know, and undie DEA agent gets in there and KA-BOOM, there it goes!

Be very, very careful. Something says no matter what we say here you're going to do as you please anyway. If you do, mums the word--don't brag because that might just be enough for an agent or LEO to try to go digging in this site to make an example of you. Not trying to get you paranoid but o-phile does not need ANY extra attention (I'm sure Jacky would agree).

I thought I'd share... SWIM *ahem* you know Fred, did this 6 years ago but he was smart enough to only use a C-III script for like 10 vike 7.5's. SWIM made a few high quality photocopies of said Rx that just came off regular computer paper from a dentist's office printer, used a paper trimmer, made 'em look even better than its original, went to various unlinked pharms not in the immediate area of where the dentist was but NO TWO CHAINS the same or anywhere linked up. In retrospect, neither I nor SWIM would EVER attempt to do it again.

Circa 2003 you could still get away with it; SWIM was lucky enough to be able to, but if SWIM tried again nowadays, I'd say there'd only be a 10-15% chance it'd work. NOT WORTH DOING TIME OVER OR HAVING A FELONY RECORD, HONESTLY!!!

[PiLL CLiNToN]

TRUST ME DO NOT FUCKING DO ANY OF THAT SHIT YOU WILL GET CAUGHT AND WILL DO ATLEAST 3 THESE PHARMS DONT FUCK AROUND WITH ANY OPIODS NOMORE ITS 2009 MY FRIEND I THINK THE GOVERNMENT HAS THIS SHIT ON LOCK IF THEY DONT GET YA TRUST ME THEY WILL SOONER OR LATER
IF YOU CHOOSE TO DO IT LINE UP MY FRIEND YOUR JUST ANOTHER FUCKING NUMBER AND WEARING RED M&MS FOR LIP STICK (UNLESS YOURE CONNECTED).

[Restharrow]

with that being said, i think they are grossly over-exagerating the realistic risk, and while i do not believe this "scam" to work forever, it isn't that horrible short-term...
IMO its NOT the "risk" issue that is catching everyone's attention, it is the "RISK / REWARD" issue that seems out of whack along with the question of "why would a doctor give someone a blank script signed?".

If you were talking about a tractor trailer load of Oxy, that you had the inside track on, it might seem more sensible. Or even if your 2nd cousin works the night shift at a Mom and Pop shop and he wants you to help him load the C-II cabinet in his truck ....... you get the picture, this is just not something most people would want to get near -- your enthusiasm seem strange.

Some people may suspect "trolling" and most of us just can not resist "feeding the trolls". The "doctor signing blank scripts" just seems hard to swallow. He would be in more trouble for this than you, so why would he not fill out the script and agree to verify it IF the pharmacist called.

I still say **THROW AWAY THE SCRIPT**!!!!!!!

IMO most threads with over 100 posts are either really good or its "afternoon on the bridge, throwing rotten food down for the trolls to eat". We walk every morning and frequently carry carrots, apples or a little chip of salt block to feed the deer and rabbits. Bread for the birds.

Edit: In for a carrot, throw him 2 apples. In the event you really did this and got caught, the first thing your attorney would say is, "Please tell me that you have NOT been discussing this in any Doper Chat Rooms on the internet"

Good luck!
Will

[Indy]

IMO its NOT the "risk" issue that is catching everyone's attention, it is the "RISK / REWARD" issue that seems out of whack along with the question of "why would a doctor give someone a blank script signed?".

If you were talking about a tractor trailer load of Oxy, that you had the inside track on, it might seem more sensible. Or even if your 2nd cousin works the night shift at a Mom and Pop shop and he wants you to help him load the C-II cabinet in his truck ....... you get the picture, this is just not something most people would want to get near -- your enthusiasm seem strange.

Some people may suspect "trolling" and most of us just can not resist "feeding the trolls". The "doctor signing blank scripts" just seems hard to swallow. He would be in more trouble for this than you, so why would he not fill out the script and agree to verify it IF the pharmacist called.

I still say **THROW AWAY THE SCRIPT**!!!!!!!

IMO most threads with over 100 posts are either really good or its "afternoon on the bridge, throwing rotten food down for the trolls to eat". We walk every morning and frequently carry carrots, apples or a little chip of salt block to feed the deer and rabbits. Bread for the birds.

Edit: In for a carrot, throw him 2 apples. In the event you really did this and got caught, the first thing your attorney would say is, "Please tell me that you have NOT been discussing this in any Doper Chat Rooms on the internet"

Good luck!
Will

After reading this post i forgot my own name.

[Spikey]

After reading this post i forgot my own name.


Hahaha:p

[Restharrow]

After reading this post i forgot my own name.
Forgetfullness of names is not always a bad thing.

[Synack]

I think you'd have better luck robbing the pharmacy.

[youwonhundred]

I think you'd have better luck robbing the pharmacy.

At least then you wouldn't have to wait on the fuckin' script, right? Hours to put some pills in a bottle and print a label? BULLSHIT!

[RoxiGuy]

Ok, i dont usualy write threads but this is something that I have not read about and would like to know about

The story:

SWIM has recently run into the beauty of getting a few blank scripts signed and all by a hospital MD and knows someone who knows how to write out scripts for 80's and has done so before. Everything will be paid for w/o insurance aka cash and under an alies.

Here is the question:

How many 80's should swim get, also should swim get 80's or just get a bunch of roxi? Also, how much is it going to cost for brand name OC 80's at 60 cnt, 120ct, etc... And also any other advice about how to get the most bang for the buck (pun not intended) would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all for ur help and guidence and I will contine to keep ya'll updatd on SWIMS status throughout the week. :)

Ok, I'll just throw out what I know to be 100% true because I've known many people who forge scripts.

1. If it's from a hospital, generally hospitals do not give 28-20 day cycles of medicine at all. Sometimes, but more not than yes. The hospitals job is to stabilize you so you don't die or cause more injury and when you're stable they will give 1-2 weeks of meds so you have something to last until you can see your general practitioner or the recommended specialist. Then that doctor can take over your medications.

2. Percocets, Lortabs etc. may slip by but OxyContin and Roxicodone, especially in large amounts will be verified. Most pharmacies won't tell you anythings wrong wither, they'll just let you assume their filling it while the law is on the way. Multiple felonies dude.

3. A run of the mill ER pain pill script will be on average 12-30 or so Lortab 5s or 10s even Perc 5s or 10s. Much more rare would be maybe 20 or so Roxis and the rarest would be OxyContin and it would only be for 10-20 pills max since it's ER.

4. You want to have more than 1 script too. Decide on what injury your "hospital visit" was for and play it up. If it's your hip arm etc. Make it look real. Also include scripts for anti-inflamitories, muscle relaxers and even a non-narcotic painkiller. Have one that's written as a referral to a specialist like an orthopedic doctor or something and have one that's written for an MRI of whatever area. Hand them the stack and let them sort out that a couple are for extended tests and specialist referals. Then it looks like you really did see a doctor.

If you go in with 1 script for 240 Roxi 30s or 90 OC 80s, you'll be leaving in a cop car and be looking at usually a couple years. They will know it's bullshit. They know who the doctors in town are and they tend to know their prescribing habits. They also know that ER docs don't prescribe much painkillers because ER docs don't treat patients on ongoing basis. They also know that pain management doctors are 90% of the time the ones who write scripts like that. Don't do it dude is my advice.

[RoxiGuy]

No didn't you see, this worthless fuckbag is doing it to sell em. To the OP, I say, if you're that hard up for fucking cash, go get your lame ass on the fucking corner, suck some cocks and earn it. Don't fuck it up for the rest of us.

Asshole.

If they're for sale, he might as well write a demand for all CII painkillers and rob the pharmacy. No paper trail like that :)

+1

An ER doctor writing for anything more than 10-15 tabs of any type of pain meds, especially OC or roxicodone! LMFAO, you must want to go to jail!

I have an idea, you want t make some money, try getting a job!

Exactly. Hospitals are to stabilize critical people and send them on their way to whatever doctor they need to treat what caused them to be admitted in the first place. If they require hardcore drugs for a while, it'll be done in the hospital itself.

what are u talkin about? I have no idea why the doc is doin this... all i know is that its signed and the guy who is doing this has done it before for 30 cnt OC 80's and was fine... he was thinkin mom and pop store should be best. u guys are making this sound like even if it is written out perfectly that there will likely be a problem, i dont get why.

He got lucky. I've had Lortab 5s called in (15 of them) from a dentist while I changed the bloody gause in my mouth.

Especially if they don't know you,yeah they'll call. And Nick? The reason I stated that OC cannot be called in because I'm a nurse. The OP said something about calling in OC and I,as you,have also done a variation of the same thing many years ago before the hammer came down.
I get a script of OC every month and the pharm. knows me. But more importantly they know my Dr.

EXACTLY People usually don't think that 1 doctor may see 100 patients a day and write a couple hundred scripts. They have a style to writing them. A doctor that is known throughout the pharmaceutical retail industry as being a guy who has never scripted more than 30 Perc 10s and very very rarely anything more will cause a phone call to verify because it isout of the norm. When a pharmacist sees 100s of scripts a month from a doctor or a doctor group and they never script Roxis or OC and all of the sudden here's a script for 120 80s, RED FLAG.

Does the "math" add up correctly in the DEA NUMBER?

There is a program out there that will do the computation for DEA #s to make sure they check out. This is just a stupid idea all around. The dude has a better shot of going in a 24hr pharmacy at 2am with a mask and robbing the place. He did say it would be done with an "alias" but for roxis and OCs they usually ask for ID. Plus the only time I haven't had a verification call made was when I hit month 4 or 5 with my 1 pharmacy and me getting the exact same meds every month. That plus my PM doc only used Oxy products for pain and his #s of tabs never does more than a 30 count jump in a month (1 extra a day)

I think this dude should just take a dive headfirst off a 30 foot ladder if he wants some painkillers that bad. Then nothing illegal takes place.

[youwonhundred]

I think this dude should just take a dive headfirst off a 30 foot ladder if he wants some painkillers that bad. Then nothing illegal takes place.

My sister said (before she died of a methadone OD) that buildings worked better for that. So well in fact, the dumbass did it twice.

[Bluemagician]

In 2001, a friend of mine got a hold of 3 blank, signed, DEA numbered scripts. He only tried to fill a 2mg, 30 count xanax, 5mg 30 count valium, and some type of muscle relaxer (I forget what it was now) all at different pharmacys at different times. He got the xanax, and the muscle relaxer script successfully, but ended up getting popped for the valium script. Fake scripts weren't as "hard" to pass off back then as they are now, and those particular scripts were not as risky as trying to pass off a forged OC script (probably the most widely abused, most popular diverted controlled substance ever) yet my friend seriously screwed up his life.

If an obviously healthy, young (which I am assuming you are, by your writing style, and attitude), clean cut or not, person walks into a pharmacy with a prescription for one of the most powerful, and widely abused opiate medication, with absolutely NO history of filling prior pain medication prescriptions that are usually reserved for cancer patients, physically disabled, etc., there is a high probability that the pharmacist will be, at least, minorly suspicous. Chances are, the pharmacist will cover their ass by making a simple 2 minute phone call. If they fill a prescription like that, the person OD's, and it turned out the script was forged, I'm sure the pharmacist could get into a bit of trouble.. It's not everyday a young guy walks into a pharmacy, out of the blue, and get's a sixty count 80mg OC script filled..

You have to think about this logically. A doctor will not USUALLY write a script like that to an outwardly healthy young patient. 20 #5mg vicodin, or percocet? That's beliveable, but if I was hypothetically in the pharmacists shoes, I would err on the side of caution when filling that type of script to that type of patient, even if they were clean shaven and wearing a polo shit. Chances are, even a small town mom and pop pharmacy would too. Those type of operations usually know their patients, and again, it's not every day some new patient walks in to get a large CII prescription filled. I would wager that the chances of you getting caught, catching some felonies, and potentially ruining your life are dangerously close to, and I dare to say even possibly higher, then you walking out of there with a large bounty of the most widely abused, divereted, and probably the most oft forged CII substance in the good ol' US of A.

Sure, the chance is there that everything could go just fine and dandy, but most of us are trying to warn you from multiple collective lifetimes of experience that this stunt is insanely dangerous. I don't believe anyone here is "grossly overestimating" the dangers. CII script forgery is not in the same ilk as shoplifting a stick of bubble gum, but probably more akin to robbing a bank. It's not taken lightly by the dea/police/pharmacy/pharmacists, and the pharmacists are ALWAYS on the look out for it. It would be like trying to pass off forged currency at a bank. Even if it's a really convincing forgery, odds are, you will get caught.

No one here is trying to pick a fight, or make fun of you, they are just trying to get you to see how risky doing this really is, and maybe get you to reconsider. The risk/reward for this kind of thing is incredibly high in the risk department, and pretty damn low in terms of the reward. What ever profit you can recieve from selling the pills is barely 1/1000th the cost of getting caught.. And the chances of someone getting caught for script forgery in this day and age is a hell of alot higher then it was even 10 years ago.

[Duckfeet]

For many of us, drugstores are like candy stores, and just like kids, we think, "what if?" And I guarantee you, just about every serious junky on here, at one time or another, has contemplated 1) busting fake scripts, 2) breaking into drugstores at night and pulling a burglary...or 3) plain old fashioned armed robbery.

It's just idle daydreaming usually, but sometimes circumstance and desperation will push a person into the 1st of these choices. At one time, the 1st 2 choices were actually more common--see "Drugstore Cowboy"--because if you *didn't* get caught, you could just hit another one, no big deal. But like I'd posted earlier: you never stop at one: *everybody* I knew, who either burlgarized drugstores, or faked/doctored prescriptions, eventually went to prison. Police Burglary squads are more methodical than Robbery/Homicide, and you might slide for a week or so, even months...and the guys who got us for fake scripts, were in no rush: they knew within days it was us, but figured we'd do another, and then they'd have us cold...and they were right...

The 3rd choice, armed robbery, is always a desperate last ditch act, when you know you are on borrowed time anyway, on your way to the joint, and don't much give a shit...you *always* get caught, and once you use a weapon, the amount of heat on you, that *day*, is unbelievable...and most of your "best friends" immediately find out that they too, could become informants under pressure...

Online databases and new federal guidelines and laws, have made the 1st two choices borderline insane, unless you just are curious about how tough you'd *really* be in a prison shower as a new boy...

The 3rd choice?: You wouldn't be posting online if you actually had the sand to pull that one off...

[RoxiGuy]

My sister said (before she died of a methadone OD) that buildings worked better for that. So well in fact, the dumb ass did it twice.

My God, I'm sorry to hear that. The running joke in my family is that my career is being on disability :) It was dumb luck I guess but I had a nasty fall from about 10ft up on to a dirt road that destroyed my shoulder. I spent 1.5 years dealing with that. Then not even 8 months back into work (I'm a specialized truck driver, oversize, overweight loads...basically the pain in the ass stuff that involves lots of heavy chains and things) I completely blew out one of my discs in my lumbar. So 2 years later here I am looking for a new gig :) My family is taking bets on how long till I get hurt hehehe. Needless to say I'm looking for more "safe" than "big money" now :)

In 2001, a friend of mine got a hold of 3 blank, signed, DEA numbered scripts. He only tried to fill a 2mg, 30 count xanax, 5mg 30 count valium, and some type of muscle relaxer (I forget what it was now) all at different pharmacys at different times. He got the xanax, and the muscle relaxer script successfully, but ended up getting popped for the valium script. Fake scripts weren't as "hard" to pass off back then as they are now, and those particular scripts were not as risky as trying to pass off a forged OC script (probably the most widely abused, most popular diverted controlled substance ever) yet my friend seriously screwed up his life.

If an obviously healthy, young (which I am assuming you are, by your writing style, and attitude), clean cut or not, person walks into a pharmacy with a prescription for one of the most powerful, and widely abused opiate medication, with absolutely NO history of filling prior pain medication prescriptions that are usually reserved for cancer patients, physically disabled, etc., there is a high probability that the pharmacist will be, at least, minorly suspicous. Chances are, the pharmacist will cover their ass by making a simple 2 minute phone call. If they fill a prescription like that, the person OD's, and it turned out the script was forged, I'm sure the pharmacist could get into a bit of trouble.. It's not everyday a young guy walks into a pharmacy, out of the blue, and get's a sixty count 80mg OC script filled..

You have to think about this logically. A doctor will not USUALLY write a script like that to an outwardly healthy young patient. 20 #5mg vicodin, or percocet? That's beliveable, but if I was hypothetically in the pharmacists shoes, I would err on the side of caution when filling that type of script to that type of patient, even if they were clean shaven and wearing a polo shit. Chances are, even a small town mom and pop pharmacy would too. Those type of operations usually know their patients, and again, it's not every day some new patient walks in to get a large CII prescription filled. I would wager that the chances of you getting caught, catching some felonies, and potentially ruining your life are dangerously close to, and I dare to say even possibly higher, then you walking out of there with a large bounty of the most widely abused, divereted, and probably the most oft forged CII substance in the good ol' US of A.

Sure, the chance is there that everything could go just fine and dandy, but most of us are trying to warn you from multiple collective lifetimes of experience that this stunt is insanely dangerous. I don't believe anyone here is "grossly overestimating" the dangers. CII script forgery is not in the same ilk as shoplifting a stick of bubble gum, but probably more akin to robbing a bank. It's not taken lightly by the dea/police/pharmacy/pharmacists, and the pharmacists are ALWAYS on the look out for it. It would be like trying to pass off forged currency at a bank. Even if it's a really convincing forgery, odds are, you will get caught.

No one here is trying to pick a fight, or make fun of you, they are just trying to get you to see how risky doing this really is, and maybe get you to reconsider. The risk/reward for this kind of thing is incredibly high in the risk department, and pretty damn low in terms of the reward. What ever profit you can recieve from selling the pills is barely 1/1000th the cost of getting caught.. And the chances of someone getting caught for script forgery in this day and age is a hell of alot higher then it was even 10 years ago.

I went into my usual drug store once to pick up some Roxis I dropped off. Preceeding this I always thought the doctor had terrible handwriting (he was like 106 years old) and was wondering when a problem would arise from it.

Well anyways there's 3 sherrif cars parked outside and for some reason even though my nose is completely clean I still have "oh shit" thoughts when I see stuff like that. Hell I could be delivering teddy bears and I actually think quick, "What the fuck have I done lately that might be illegal) XD But they were cuffing a girl for trying to get 30 Xannie bars.

For many of us, drugstores are like candy stores, and just like kids, we think, "what if?" And I guarantee you, just about every serious junky on here, at one time or another, has contemplated 1) busting fake scripts, 2) breaking into drugstores at night and pulling a burglary...or 3) plain old fashioned armed robbery.

It's just idle daydreaming usually, but sometimes circumstance and desperation will push a person into the 1st of these choices. At one time, the 1st 2 choices were actually more common--see "Drugstore Cowboy"--because if you *didn't* get caught, you could just hit another one, no big deal. But like I'd posted earlier: you never stop at one: *everybody* I knew, who either burlgarized drugstores, or faked/doctored prescriptions, eventually went to prison. Police Burglary squads are more methodical than Robbery/Homicide, and you might slide for a week or so, even months...and the guys who got us for fake scripts, were in no rush: they knew within days it was us, but figured we'd do another, and then they'd have us cold...and they were right...

The 3rd choice, armed robbery, is always a desperate last ditch act, when you know you are on borrowed time anyway, on your way to the joint, and don't much give a shit...you *always* get caught, and once you use a weapon, the amount of heat on you, that *day*, is unbelievable...and most of your "best friends" immediately find out that they too, could become informants under pressure...

Online databases and new federal guidelines and laws, have made the 1st two choices borderline insane, unless you just are curious about how tough you'd *really* be in a prison shower as a new boy...

The 3rd choice?: You wouldn't be posting online if you actually had the sand to pull that one off...

The pharmacy I go to is older than dirt itself (been in the same place since the 40s. I know the layout VERY well from filling scripts there for 30 years and I know they never have more than 3 people working at a time. Can't tell you how many times I've thought it....but those 30 years of filling would get me. They recognize me from the parking lot :)

[PiLL CLiNToN]

For many of us, drugstores are like candy stores, and just like kids, we think, "what if?" And I guarantee you, just about every serious junky on here, at one time or another, has contemplated 1) busting fake scripts, 2) breaking into drugstores at night and pulling a burglary...or 3) plain old fashioned armed robbery.

It's just idle daydreaming usually, but sometimes circumstance and desperation will push a person into the 1st of these choices. At one time, the 1st 2 choices were actually more common--see "Drugstore Cowboy"--because if you *didn't* get caught, you could just hit another one, no big deal. But like I'd posted earlier: you never stop at one: *everybody* I knew, who either burlgarized drugstores, or faked/doctored prescriptions, eventually went to prison. Police Burglary squads are more methodical than Robbery/Homicide, and you might slide for a week or so, even months...and the guys who got us for fake scripts, were in no rush: they knew within days it was us, but figured we'd do another, and then they'd have us cold...and they were right...

The 3rd choice, armed robbery, is always a desperate last ditch act, when you know you are on borrowed time anyway, on your way to the joint, and don't much give a shit...you *always* get caught, and once you use a weapon, the amount of heat on you, that *day*, is unbelievable...and most of your "best friends" immediately find out that they too, could become informants under pressure...

Online databases and new federal guidelines and laws, have made the 1st two choices borderline insane, unless you just are curious about how tough you'd *really* be in a prison shower as a new boy...

The 3rd choice?: You wouldn't be posting online if you actually had the sand to pull that one off...

A-fuckin-men bro total co-signage. if you did that jack move and talked about it online....im sorry man but you ASKING to get caught......bad choice bad bad bad in all ends of this situation. Do the right thing while ya still have something called this thing "freedom".

[Synack]

There is a program out there that will do the computation for DEA #s to make sure they check out.

The DEA number is validated using the Luhn algorithm (a.k.a. Mod 10, Modulus 10)...

2 letters, 6 digits, 1 checksum digit - ie: XX ###### #
Letter 1 specifies type of info
Letter 2 is the first letter of the doc's last name

To verify the number, do this:
X = Digits 1 + 3 + 5
Y = Digits (2 + 4 + 6) * 2
Z = X + Y
The digit in the ones position of Z is matched against the checksum digit, ie: 57, so the final DEA number digit is 7.

[OxiContinKing]

The DEA number is validated using the Luhn algorithm (a.k.a. Mod 10, Modulus 10)...

2 letters, 6 digits, 1 checksum digit - ie: XX ###### #
Letter 1 specifies type of info
Letter 2 is the first letter of the doc's last name

To verify the number, do this:
X = Digits 1 + 3 + 5
Y = Digits (2 + 4 + 6) * 2
Z = X + Y
The digit in the ones position of Z is matched against the checksum digit, ie: 57, so the final DEA number digit is 7.

interesting.

great information.

i wonder why they would make this information public knowledge, though.

[PiLL CLiNToN]

These fuckers got smahhht.:p

[Poisona]

Where the hell has the kid been at lately??? He hasn't updated us on his new discoveries on the "google" to help him achieve narcotics without the process of validating the patients script and who does'nt have a history of darvocets or tramadol. He walks into the pharmacy with his youthfullness and perfect health and gets handed some OC 80's for his "pain". Hey can I get a link of how to do this too :p

Hope everything is ok though man and that you still have your "rights" pleace update us so we know if you're ok. :)

[lef1000]

Where the hell has the kid been at lately??? He hasn't updated us on his new discoveries on the "google" to help him achieve narcotics without the process of validating the patients script and who does'nt have a history of darvocets or tramadol. He walks into the pharmacy with his youthfullness and perfect health and gets handed some OC 80's for his "pain". Hey can I get a link of how to do this too :p

Hope everything is ok though man and that you still have your "rights" pleace update us so we know if you're ok. :)



i am actually speakin to pharmasists and pharm tech's as well as peple who have done this before and tryin to find out about more about the doc who signed this blank script.... the deed will prob be done this weekend, mite have someone else do it and pay him. i will keep yal updated. the DEA number checkes out on mine btw i already did that researrchbut ty anyway

[jersey_emt]

It really is unbelievable that you are still going through this. You've been repeatedly told the dangers of forging prescriptions for even small quantities of CIV's. And then you go on to divulge which drugs, dosages, and quantities you plan on obtaining. You've divulged exactly when you plan on obtaining them. Your location is easily narrowed down. You've talked to many people in real life about your plans. Christ, what if one of those people is facing charges and will give up your information so they themselves won't have to do serious jail time? What if one of those people is some sort of law enforcement officer acting under cover?

You plan on forging prescriptions for Schedule II controlled substances, which is bad enough even when being as discreet as possible about it. But then you go parading exact details on this forum and all over in real life.

I really am utterly speechless. I honestly do not know what to say. I truly hope that you are just a troll looking to get us all riled up.

[youwonhundred]

^^ I already called bullshit, and as DF said someplace (might have even been here) if he had the sand to fucking do it, he would have already done it and not still be sitting here blogging about it. Kid, go get mama to change yer fuckin diaper and quit wasting our time with your fantasies.

PS Go back under your bridge. I hope to fuck there's no wifi.

[Poisona]

Dude, where I'm from (FL, which is the easiest place to get scripts even if you're 25 with a fucked up back) if you're new patient in PM and you get your first SCII script from a doc. You HAVE to fill at a time that the doc's office is opened so the pharmacy can verify its legit. My doc is opened 9-5 Mon-Fri no weekends. So if you went there your first time you would have to fill between those times. If you did not and say you went on Saturday then the pharmacy would hold your script and make an excuse as to why you can't receive the meds till monday morning at 10 a.m. See what I'm saying??? You will not be able to fill this script on "the weekend" guranteed bro. DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS. Unless you've been a patient at this pharmacy for years and have lots and lots of medical documentation stating your condition. For gods sake you're in jersey go buy some good Heroin, fuck man, I wish I could buy a stamp down here.

[upstate_007]

^^ I already called bullshit, and as DF said someplace (might have even been here) if he had the sand to fucking do it, he would have already done it and not still be sitting here blogging about it. Kid, go get mama to change yer fuckin diaper and quit wasting our time with your fantasies.

PS Go back under your bridge. I hope to fuck there's no wifi.

Word. Hopefully some good can come of this thread and knock some sense into someone else in the future who may be having the same ideas.

[Duckfeet]

Google "New Jersey" and "jail" and "new fish" and make a printout...

[StackBundles]

Seriously... People should quit wasting their breath/keystrokes on this cat. He got the best advice that he's ever gonna' get on this subject, outside of being counsoled by a DEA Agent, a pharmacist, and a lawyer.

Real or imagined scenario, much luck to the O.P. Get your grind on, hustler. If you are fortunate enough to get away with this please make sure you keep us current and let us know exactly how many pills you got, what strength, and other cool facts as to what the pharmacists name was that was so clueless as to have been conned by a slick ass, boss gangster such as yourself. Maybe you could take a few pictures of you posing with the pills and shit, holding some money, looking thug, and post them on here. That'd be sweet. I'd definately rep the shit outta' you for that.

Stay grimey, Youngblood..

[Papa Verine]

^^^ This guy really cracks me up.

[Shadowsblaze]

I still believe this is a tall tail because of the stupidity of posting all this information. Hell he could be LE "feeling out" the people who respond to his post to chart there attitudes toward his escapades. Seeing what behavior is common to the individuals on this site. It is good that the responses by felow opi's is trying to curtail his mistake.
I'd like to derep him, take away his one little green box. But it's not necessary, his reputation from this one post has quite a few people sceptical of him wondering "what in God's name is he doing here" he is not to brite.
If in fact he is for real doesn't he believe it possible that LE could have all his info and where about's by now if they wanted it. He has been warned not to post anything incriminating. That said I think he's just a story teller trying to get attention. The End. I'm tired of this post and him. Get a new computer and address then come back. :(:mad::p

[Spikey]

I'd like to derep him, take away his one little green box.



Hahahaha

[StackBundles]

Thanks for the compliment PV.

Realistically, the resources that it would necessatate to conduct an investigation and execute an arrest based on these posts are way too extensive to warrant going through with. Would never happen, but still, this shit is IDIOTIC.

[Shadowsblaze]

Thanks for the compliment PV.

Realistically, the resources that it would necessatate to conduct an investigation and execute an arrest based on these posts are way too extensive to warrant going through with. Would never happen, but still, this shit is IDIOTIC.


I agree with you too SB, I firgured I'd try to scare the little one, I still wonder how he's gonna finish his fiction, he gets busted, pharmacist makes advances toward him and he has to beat his ass cause he don't go dat way "not that there's anything wrong with that", mommy finds scripts and throws them away and starts intervention, house burns down and he tries to save scripts but ceiling falls in and he never posts again etc etc.

[seven10kids]

whatever you do dont post about it online........ oh wait a sec...:rolleyes:

[Somanax]

My sister said (before she died of a methadone OD) that buildings worked better for that. So well in fact, the dumbass did it twice.



not funny

it only fucked her up

real bad

the od killed her

[youwonhundred]

not funny

it only fucked her up

real bad

the od killed her


For all we know, she was right.

[farmpkm]

First off, I have no actual experience with fake scripts, I'm just giving an imagined scenario here. But, if I were the OP, and had already made up my mind that I was NOT simply going to throw these scripts away, here's what I'd do.

Everything already stated still applies, but nobody has mentioned the fact that that the fear of being butt raped may cause you to act in a way that will guarantee that you will NOT walk out of the pharmacy with any drugs. Knowing the risks involved, I imagine that when I approached the pharmacy counter I'd be shaking uncontrollably and be too nervous to even make a coherent sentence, let alone act cool enough to succeed. Obviously I don't know you, but I imagine you aren't a hardened criminal type that is comfortable scamming people face to face.

So I'd do a practice run. I'd fill out one of the scripts for for 7 or 14 Tylenol #2's (~15mg of codeine) or Fiornal or something controlled, but not serious. This wouldn't get you high, certainly, but it's just illegal enough to make you nervous when you approach the pharmacist. I'd take this to my local pharmacy to see how I myself reacted to the reality of lying to a pharmacist face to face to get drugs. As an added benefit, you'd get some idea of how the process works on the pharmacist's side.

Maybe I'm just a big gaping pussy, but I think if I walked into a pharmacy with a fake script for 60 80mg OC's I'd piss my pants before they had a chance to do whatever they were gonna do. Again, I don't know you.... but everyone is (correctly) questioning how the pharmacist is going to react; I think you'd be wise to also perform a REAL test of how YOU are going to react.

[ATLtrap]

i had some buddies who wrote fake scripts alot.
he mentioned something about greek letters/writting and putting little dots/circles in certain places..
it worked for him for a while but he was eventually red flagged, and got in ALOT of trouble.
he was writing the scripts for xanax and tabs/percs
take this for what its worth, if anything...

[Tmac5150]

"You'll shoot your eye out kid."


Good one...

I wouldn't be greedy. The more pills/higher the mg it seems like they might be more out to get suspicious. Also it being a hospital Dr. would he be writing that many of something like that? If he's an ER Dr. you know he wouldn't... Just my humble opinion...

[lef1000]

GUESS WHO JUST GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH HELL YA IT WAS ON SALE TOO.... HAHHAHA i will post pics if u guys really want tommorow im about to go to bed.

[jersey_emt]

GUESS WHO JUST GOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH HELL YA IT WAS ON SALE TOO.... HAHHAHA i will post pics if u guys really want tommorow im about to go to bed.

Posting pictures of drugs you obtained illegally is also a very stupid idea....

[JonnyMohawk]

Posting pictures of drugs you obtained illegally is also a very stupid idea....


Seriously kid. You arent going to get far.

Not only that but we don't need incriminating pictures here, that kind of shit just gives a bad name to the board and will only cause problems.

[lef1000]

umm ok then i wont.
but u guys were all wrong
swim has 60 of those things
big ups to all my haters :)

[Dirt McGirt]

but u guys were all wrong

Look bud, nobody was saying flat out "it won't work." Just that it wasn't worth the risk and that you should consider the other ppl's agendas in the whole scheme. As Duckfeet said, you might get away with it once, but once is never enough for a dope fiend.

Regardless, how do you know the DEA/local LE wasn't in on it the whole time? Maybe they're waiting to see who you sell them to and then round all your asses up.

And if you really feel the need to say "I told you so" on an internet msg board, I don't know what to tell ya.:rolleyes:

[hydro chris]

id have to say youd have to be real desperate to pull off something like that, for a whole 60 off w/e, that would have you crying for mommy, i the penn. not the smartest thing to do these days.
i call b.s.!!

[nick]

umm ok then i wont.
but u guys were all wrong
swim has 60 of those things
big ups to all my haters :)

Good for you.Now do yourself a favour and quit while you're ahead.

[lef1000]

Swim plans on doing this one more time in 30 days. and then swim shall retire debit free lol.

[nick]

Swim plans on doing this one more time in 30 days. and then swim shall retire debit free lol.

Good.Just remember that(as folks have even pointed out in this thread) this kinda behaviour is addictive.

[lef1000]

def. its such a rush so i can see that. prob one of the craziest things swim has done.

[JonnyMohawk]

def. its such a rush so i can see that. prob one of the craziest things swim has done.

Also one point of advice, if you are going to use 'swim' then try to refrain from saying "I" like you did in some previous posts.

It kind of ruins 'swim', ya know?

[feelings of u4ia]

Does "SWIM" even protect you anyways? I never really thought it made a big deal of you said you, or swim. Anybody that reads this site for an hour or two will start to realize exactly what SWIM means...

But if you say swim, or if you say, "I," they still have to prove it was YOU sitting at that computer typing it, no? So I just don't really see the need for SWIM.

[JonnyMohawk]

Does "SWIM" even protect you anyways? I never really thought it made a big deal of you said you, or swim. Anybody that reads this site for an hour or two will start to realize exactly what SWIM means...

But if you say swim, or if you say, "I," they still have to prove it was YOU sitting at that computer typing it, no? So I just don't really see the need for SWIM.

Swim from a legal standpoint does actually protect you.

Saying you did something illegal is an admission of guilt, and it may give them reasonable cause, even if they do have to prove it was in fact you.


While using 'swim' you are not admitting to anything illegal.


I've heard of things people have said on this forum be used against them legally.


Better to be safe then sorry, ya know?

[youwonhundred]

Does "SWIM" even protect you anyways? I never really thought it made a big deal of you said you, or swim. Anybody that reads this site for an hour or two will start to realize exactly what SWIM means...

But if you say swim, or if you say, "I," they still have to prove it was YOU sitting at that computer typing it, no? So I just don't really see the need for SWIM.

Whether you feel the need to use it or not, the people who pay the bills ask that we do it, so do it. If it makes them sleep easier at night, its a small thing, don't you think?

[kellyblue]

Does "SWIM" even protect you anyways? I never really thought it made a big deal of you said you, or swim. Anybody that reads this site for an hour or two will start to realize exactly what SWIM means...

But if you say swim, or if you say, "I," they still have to prove it was YOU sitting at that computer typing it, no? So I just don't really see the need for SWIM.

Sorry for using the "quote button" but my thumb still isn't happy about typing... LOL!

If nothing else- think about the site being protected. Opiophile can NOT condone anything blatantly illegal, and if people are using "I" instead of "SWIM"- can't the site be in trouble as a whole? Better safe than sorry- don't get everyone in trouble, just use "SWIM". That way, none of the higher ups here can ever be accused of knowingly allowing anything illegal...

Anything "SWIM" does that WE talk about is always gonna be considered hearsay... but if we tell tales about something that "I" did... hearsay is out the window- as "I" just freely and openly admitted doing whatever it was.

(That all made sense in my head, I'm tired- sorry! But you get the gist of what I'm saying.)

[Shadowsblaze]

I do remember a post where Jacky asked that we use swim and another where Brony said it was not an option on our part but a request or in that post was a demand that we do so. And that's not asking alot from us opi's. Peace out.

Hey lefty, if I was a bit crude, save me from rereading, the apology covers all of my assholishness. I never mean to be mean I hope all the opi's sense that in me. I have a sarcastic streak in me that has gotten me in trouble alot. Biker bars have been my worst experiences in my life not counting situations where I have had weapons pointed at me. Not counting the ass beatings the sarcasm has gottenn me out of alot of those instances. Anyhow sorry for being rough on ya, hope you will be my second friend, Icky got #1 and we haven't talked since. I think it was the proposal. Nuff said later.

[Raekwon]

Sorry for using the "quote button" but my thumb still isn't happy about typing... LOL!

If nothing else- think about the site being protected. Opiophile can NOT condone anything blatantly illegal, and if people are using "I" instead of "SWIM"- can't the site be in trouble as a whole? Better safe than sorry- don't get everyone in trouble, just use "SWIM". That way, none of the higher ups here can ever be accused of knowingly allowing anything illegal...

Anything "SWIM" does that WE talk about is always gonna be considered hearsay... but if we tell tales about something that "I" did... hearsay is out the window- as "I" just freely and openly admitted doing whatever it was.

(That all made sense in my head, I'm tired- sorry! But you get the gist of what I'm saying.)

Ive always wondered why everyone does the swim thing on here, ive been on alot of Drug forums (bluelight, drugs.com, TCC on Somethingawful.com) and this is really the only place that does the whole SWIM thing. I really dont think you can get arrested for posting about doing drugs on the internet? And i doubt the forum could get in much trouble since the only thing Sites get shut down for is letting people Solicit drugs not Discuss about illegal thing. But I may be wrong.

[youwonhundred]

Ive always wondered why everyone does the swim thing on here, ive been on alot of Drug forums (bluelight, drugs.com, TCC on Somethingawful.com) and this is really the only place that does the whole SWIM thing. I really dont think you can get arrested for posting about doing drugs on the internet? And i doubt the forum could get in much trouble since the only thing Sites get shut down for is letting people Solicit drugs not Discuss about illegal thing. But I may be wrong.

Are you a criminal lawyer?

The people that pay the bills asked that we do. Is it that much to ask?

[Raekwon]

Are you a criminal lawyer?

The people that pay the bills asked that we do. Is it that much to ask?

I was just "wondering" why it is done, jeez man dont have to be a dick about it.

I may not be a Criminal Lawyer, but i seriously doubt you can get arrested for discussing drugs on a internet forum, Unless you have proof that says otherwise?

[Shadowsblaze]

I have no problems using swim except when I forget and have to go through most of the post rewriting I, We and any other personal info. I was wondering about past incidents 10, 20 + years where my wrongdoings no longer affect me or anyone here. I am guilty of not using swim in such cases but want to do whats best for our site. Stick with swim always, yes?


Fucked up this one, totaly out of context, scatterbrained don't know where this was supposed to be. Carry on without me.

[youwonhundred]

I was just "wondering" why it is done, jeez man dont have to be a dick about it.

I may not be a Criminal Lawyer, but i seriously doubt you can get arrested for discussing drugs on a internet forum, Unless you have proof that says otherwise?


Trust me, if I was being a dick, you would know it. You go ahead doubting all you want. My point was simple, the people who pay the fucking bills asked that we do it, so out of simple fucking respect for them and what we have here, we do it. I personally think its stupid and pointless, but my name isn't on anything, so it wouldn't be my ass in a sling IF something were done about it.

[feelings of u4ia]

Oh, I didn't come across a thread that asked that we use it, or I would always have...at least to protect the site. I have no problem using it, or with anyone else using it, but I was just wondering about the legal standpoint. Bluelight always yelled at people for using it, haha.

But yeah, I have no problem using it to protect the site.

=]

[Morfiend]

If you ever get into trouble for anything, people could use your posts in court... so forget the site, it's a good idea for yourself.

[at&t]

Here it is folks..... I don't know how it somehow manages to come up twice a month. "I don't wanna use swim. You're being a 'dick'... " etc....

http://OPIOPHILE.ORG FORUM RULES. (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?p=146)

at&t

[feelings of u4ia]

Here it is folks..... I don't know how it somehow manages to come up twice a month. "I don't wanna use swim. You're being a 'dick'... " etc....

http://OPIOPHILE.ORG FORUM RULES. (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?p=146)

at&t

I never said it was a problem to use it. I was simply asking because most other sites frown upon it, as they believe it wouldn't help anything...considering Law Enforcement puts out press releases in which they state what to "look for" when your kids are online. SWIM being a major one that they know people use.

But like I said, if the site wants us to use it, then I will do it for the site. But I would just never lay my head on my pillow pondering over a recent post I made, and then all the sudden going "wait! I used SWIM, they will NEVER know it's me."

Just my opinion, but what is good for the site, is fine for SWIM.

EDIT: Actually, once you read that rules part, it doesn't state that you need to use it to not incriminate the site. It has nothing to do with helping the site, it is recommending you use it to not incriminate YOURSELF.
I just wanted to point that out, but again, I have no problem using it.

[lef1000]

ENOUGH about SWIM
and more about THE AMAZINGNESS OF HOW IT ALL WORKED

[Raekwon]

I never said it was a problem to use it. I was simply asking because most other sites frown upon it, as they believe it wouldn't help anything...considering Law Enforcement puts out press releases in which they state what to "look for" when your kids are online. SWIM being a major one that they know people use.

But like I said, if the site wants us to use it, then I will do it for the site. But I would just never lay my head on my pillow pondering over a recent post I made, and then all the sudden going "wait! I used SWIM, they will NEVER know it's me."

Just my opinion, but what is good for the site, is fine for SWIM.

EDIT: Actually, once you read that rules part, it doesn't state that you need to use it to not incriminate the site. It has nothing to do with helping the site, it is recommending you use it to not incriminate YOURSELF.
I just wanted to point that out, but again, I have no problem using it.

Thats what i figured when i read the rules, its just reccomending you to use not stating you have to, and when i made the post i wasnt saying i didnt like it or didnt want to use it. i was just curious because this is really the only drug website that uses it.

seriously, the internet is serious business to some of you guys heh.

[feelings of u4ia]

ENOUGH about SWIM
and more about THE AMAZINGNESS OF HOW IT ALL WORKED

It's not THAT amazing that it worked. What is going to be amazing is if you can control yourself to NOT do it again. Because...trust me, you don't want to walk down that road of forging scripts. You got away with it once, don't tempt it again...it's NOT worth it.

Go to your doctor, have him refer you to pain management, grab a MRI for 200 bucks, and go to pain management and get shit legit.

[Raekwon]

Here it is folks..... I don't know how it somehow manages to come up twice a month. "I don't wanna use swim. You're being a 'dick'... " etc....

http://OPIOPHILE.ORG FORUM RULES. (http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?p=146)

at&t




Don't make yourself a liability.
-------Heard of SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me)? A great third-person method of phrasing incriminating statements. Sometimes, it might be better to mention a friend who's getting into trouble, rather than yourself.

the rules dont really state anywhere that it is mandatory, or maybe i just dont see it? Because all i see is a recommendation.

[JonnyMohawk]

Don't make yourself a liability.
-------Heard of SWIM (Someone Who Isn't Me)? A great third-person method of phrasing incriminating statements. Sometimes, it might be better to mention a friend who's getting into trouble, rather than yourself.

the rules dont really state anywhere that it is mandatory, or maybe i just dont see it? Because all i see is a recommendation.


Like previously stated it has been asked by us by the people who pay the bills.

It really isn't all that hard.

Use discretion, if you feel like what you are saying could be incriminating to you, or the board, then use 'swim'

[WV_Girl_26]

Is it really that hard to type SWIM as opposed to I...I mean, yeah 3 more letters but still.....I think some ppl are looking to something to pick a fight over....I mean if you get caught up in some drug ring or something and the confiscate your hard drive, everything you type here will be easily found.....Why not cover yourself just in case......If you type on here I I I, ME ME ME it would be pretty hard to dispute it, you should have just handed over a confession.....Now saying SWIM did it, they have to prove without doubt that you did it...

Anyway, is it really that big of a deal to do it??

[jersey_emt]

ENOUGH about SWIM
and more about THE AMAZINGNESS OF HOW IT ALL WORKED

Amazingness of how it all worked? Are you serious?

This is just going to reinforce your twisted view that doing this won't land you facing serious felony charges. It worked once, now PLEASE don't press your luck and try it again. The act of doing something like this can be addictive to some, and based on your comments, I would definitely say that you are the type of person that could easily have this problem.

You got some drugs. Just enjoy them thoroughly and quit while you're ahead. If you need more drugs, there are much safer ways to go about doing so.

[JonnyMohawk]

Amazingness of how it all worked? Are you serious?

This is just going to reinforce your twisted view that doing this won't land you facing serious felony charges. It worked once, now PLEASE don't press your luck and try it again. The act of doing something like this can be addictive to some, and based on your comments, I would definitely say that you are the type of person that could easily have this problem.

You got some drugs. Just enjoy them thoroughly and quit while you're ahead. If you need more drugs, there are much safer ways to go about doing so.


Oh I thing you got it wrong.

I don't believe these were for him, I'm pretty sure he stated that he intended to sell them.

Kudos to everyone for letting him know it was never a smart idea to begin with :]

[feelings of u4ia]

You guys have taken this all wrong. I didn't mean to bring up a discussion on how "SWIM IS FUCKING STUPID."

I understand why it is used, and how it can help the site. It was simply a question, considering I have came from other websites that basically will ban you if you use that term, on top of a whole thread of flaming. I have NO problem using it...I was just questioning how effective it really is.

I didn't mean to start a whole flame war...and I didn't mean to make you guys think I am some punk who thinks I should never use it and never will. I have stated numerous times that I have NO problem using it. It was just an inquisition.

Sorry it blew up into this.

On TOPIC:

Like I said a few posts ago...be happy that SWIM got away with it, and don't try it again. He WILL be sorry, mark my words.

It's easier getting an MRI and getting into PM then faking everything to get the scripts.

[Raekwon]

Like previously stated it has been asked by us by the people who pay the bills.

It really isn't all that hard.

Use discretion, if you feel like what you are saying could be incriminating to you, or the board, then use 'swim'

All i was asking before was i cant find anywhere that says the Admins make it mandatory that you have to use SWIM, because in the rules it seems like all their are doing is recommending you use it for your own liability.

[mikey5string]

seriously man thats awesome. i would never have the balls to do what you did. just dont get greedy. id say you dodged a bullet. sit back and enjoy.

one round in the cylinder and you just clicked your first empty....

[OverDriven]

I would never try something like this because I just have too much to lose. That said, I am very close friends with someone who worked as a pharmacy tech for a couple years at a large chain. According to this person, they don't check things as closely as you might think. There is a database of people marked as showing "drug seeking behavior", but most scripts are not checked back with the doctor's office...even Schedule II. The guys who get busted are often chronic offenders who can't resist doing it over and over.

To the OP...I don't know if you really did this or not. Doesn't really matter to me. If you did though, do NOT go back unless you want to understand ass rape up close and personal. Quitting while you're ahead is the best thing you can do right now.

[cactus31]

Whoa. I don't know how I missed this thread before now. And wow, 13 pages?!

This shoulda been locked a long time ago, IMO. This shit can ONLY lead to trouble for the OP and maybe even for the mighty OPIOPHILE. Nobody wants to see that happen...and like somebody posted before, the rules DO state clearly not to make yourself a liability. This shit's a liability, IMO.

I realize the 'deed' has been done already, and I really wanted to add my opinion before, but WTF, I'll do it anyway ;)

To the OP: If you really did this [...and it's not a lie, or a very effective attempt at attention-whoring (ahem)...], then you are ONE VERY, VERY LUCKY MOTHERFUCKER. If you ever try this again, you're TWICE the dipshit, bro. Count your blessings...

Okay, 'nuff said to the OP.

Anyway...

...The whole concept of 'script forgery is fundamentally flawed:

1). It's a felony. Even if it's your 1st time and you somehow don't get prison, you're fucked from getting a real job, period. Fines. Probation. Prison. Working dead end jobs forever because NOBODY will hire you. On and on, I'm sure. PLUS, NO FUCKING DOCTOR WILL TOUCH YOU EVER AGAIN - AND NO NARCOTICS!! Oh, the humanity!!

2). There's just too much to go wrong!! For starters: the script could be a clearly 'bad' forgery - [chances are that the pharmacy has dealt with this before and know what to fucking look for] - the script might look good to 'us', but might have 'red flags' to a pharm tech or pharmacist...The pharmacy could [and routinely, they do] check up on you...The cops and pharmacy might let you slide, but build a case against you and pull a sting on your ass...who fucking knows. SKETCH FUCKING CITY.

Anyway, bottom line:

It's fucking dumb.

I know it's fun to fantasize about pulling this off...I've done my share of fantasizing about forging scripts, or breaking into pharmacies, or finding that semi with boxes upon boxes full of OxyContin....

...but that's where those ideas should live and die: In your fantasies.


Also:

Does the "math" add up correctly in the DEA NUMBER?


That's what I was wondering too. Somebody posted [a long time ago, though - and I'm too fucking high to find it, lol] all about how the DEA number algorithm works.

Fascinating stuff.

[Restharrow]

Next time I feel lonely and want to make a lot of friends fast -- I will ask for help on a blank script. Its amazing how fascinated we are with this.

Will

[pokergooch]

Next time I feel lonely and want to make a lot of friends fast -- I will ask for help on a blank script. Its amazing how fascinated we are with this.

Will


No shit!!

[youwonhundred]

Next time I feel lonely and want to make a lot of friends fast -- I will ask for help on a blank script. Its amazing how fascinated we are with this.

Will

Blank scripts.. the junky unicorn. All I'm sayin'.

[StackBundles]

Dollars to dirty rigs says that this dude is lying. Shit didn't happen. Nuh-uh. No way.

He's too starved for attention... "The amazingness of it all"???

GTFO with all that bullshit.

*L*ying the *E*ntire *F*ucking time 1000

[duck]

I liked your other avatar better, SB

[StackBundles]

Do you know who that is?

You choose... TMNT, Burger Time, or Neon Money...

[duck]

I liked the silver muscle car...I like avatars that aren't cliche on an opio forum

[StackBundles]

I'll bring back the Camaro for ya Duck. I just had to park it for a few days.

I am gonna' be saddy pants when winter rolls around and I hafta' garage that beast for real. Gay.

"Burger Time" works okay for now though, no?

[duck]

when did you get it? I love those cars. Got any bigger pics? A muscle car driving junkie....I think we could be friends in real life

[taj]

SB, I liked your skull note/ flag avatar the best

[wisegal]

SB, I liked your skull note/ flag avatar the best

same here.

[StackBundles]

I suppose I'll have to dig around for the music note... Haha. For the ladies.

@Duck. I scored the Camaro around the begining of summer. I had to pick between a Challenger and a the Camaro... Since my gramps used to push a '69 with a 427 in it and a '59 Apache Stepside Pickup, I had to rep for the Bowtie.

I already have been through a set of tires with that thing.

Thank God for co-signers, huh?

***Check out the "Whips" thread in the PICTURES OF WHAT sub-forum, Duck.

[nuts4roxies]

swim has known two people who have done this one is a friend and was able to get away with it twice to swims great joy he threw swim 15 bananas percs just because he was so happy it worked the other person was only someone swim had met a couple of times and is currently serving seven years atleast that is what swim heard maybe he got less

[OpiXPO]

This thread really needs to get locked/deleted. Id hate to lose a group of people who know what this life is like because of some kid crying out for attention and gets other people to start turning this forum into a liability. This thread fits the legal definition very sungly for Conspiracy to commit from the OP opening comments and on.

[nick]

This thread really needs to get locked/deleted. Id hate to lose a group of people who know what this life is like because of some kid crying out for attention and gets other people to start turning this forum into a liability.

Yeah,I hear this,but on the plus side,virtually every response tells him NOT to do it.

Oh and welcome,man.

[OpiXPO]

Yeah,I hear this,but on the plus side,virtually every response tells him NOT to do it.

Oh and welcome,man.

Which is why I like this forum.

and thank you :)

[kellyblue]

^^^^ See? Like I said in my welcome... it'll be good to have your opinion here!

[krinkov]

HAHA! The tags for this thread are priceless!!

"b.s., don't drop the soap, idiot, soap on a rope!, swim, where'd he go?"

[GOLD N DIEMONDS]

HAHA! The tags for this thread are priceless!!

"b.s., don't drop the soap, idiot, soap on a rope!, swim, where'd he go?"
+1
LMAO - yes they are, don't ever even look at them. how are those developed, self generated, or someone puts in manual - 'don't drop soap' :D

[cig3f]

Everyone here told it like it is. I love that about this board. Forgery is pure idiocy and the BCR is infintesimal. Now, along the lines of what Duckfeet was saying, in pursuit of this fantasy, let's explore the academics of this felonious activity through various medical and pharmacy school references.

A variety of learning is to be had at The University of Texas' Dental Branch at Houston's Web Resources about Prescription Writing:

http://www.db.uth.tmc.edu/faculty/vlewis/Vahnspage/2561/RXWritingRefs.htm

I especially like the first embedded link within the above, a thoroughly comprehensive presentation, http://www.db.uth.tmc.edu/faculty/vlewis/medphar/04-Blue_Parts_of_RXd.pdf.

What do we have here? It seems to be a pharmacist's reference on how to detect forgeries and diversionary techniques! See for yourself at the American Journal of Pharmaceutical Education's "Prescription Drug Diversion: Fraudulent Tactics Utilized in the Community Pharmacy."

http://www.ajpe.org/legacy/pdfs/aj6102184.pdf

And in closing, my personal favorite, we have UNC's School of Pharmacy Compounding Lab's Prescriptions and Medication Orders site, an open courseware where you can take the pharmacy students' course, complete with examples, and take a test to certify your newfound knowledge at the end.

http://pharmlabs.unc.edu/labs/prescriptions/objectives.htm

HTH,
CIG

[The_Highwayman]

I couldn't possibly think of a crime where you are most likely to be caught, except robbing a bank on a bicycle, as others have said the cons FAR outweigh the pros..yeah you get a decent amount of pills that lasts you what two-three weeks?? Maybe you sell them (another crime) and make a couple dollars but that won't compare to what you may need to pay in legal fees. With pharms today, espeically in NJ, looking at controlled substances, like other say Databases, calling the doctor, all that, there are way too many loose ends that you can get jammed up with for a few pills...I repeat, please don't do this...

[bronyraur]

Fuck this little kid and his stupid thread.
Let's stop feeding the troll.

Thread closed.