Oxymorphone compared to heroin?

[krinkov]

So, which one is better in your opinion? I would assume that the price of H would make it dollar for dollar a better deal. But, price aside, which do you prefer? Which has a better rush? Better high? Which ONE!!!?????
Thanks!
Krinkov

[StackBundles]

Close, but no cigar.

Dude, you should post this up in the "Nothing compares to good H" thread. Or maybe not. A few people covered this one in there I think, though. I did for sure.

Dude, NOTHING that I can get my hands on can touch good H, as I'm sure you know, being that we are close to the same area, and we have had the same D before.

Opana has a better rush than any other pharm though, at least the common ones. The buzz lasts a while too, making it my pharm of choice if I had to pick, and, well, there are no other "street" opiates, besides H in it's various forms, and whatever other substance is in there.

[lib.sOCialist]

Seeing how all i can get 98% of the time is west-coast tar, i ALWAYS prefer getting IR Opana's, seeing how they are so easy to fix up and fire home... but i bet if i could get the D that stack talks about im sure i would prefer it over ANY pharmaceutical.

[Synack]

Recently, I'd had a few shots of oxymorphone & hydromorphone in one shot... fucking awesome...

I've only got oxymorphone left, but I'm not complaining it... good shit.

[bodytec]

yea,i've not had oxymorph.,but plenty hydro-m. and while hydro-morph is good,i still think nothing can compare to a good shot of some good H,baby!!!-nodddd.......nodddd

[Lu_cid]

no comparison H is the be all end all of the drug world.

[NY Hippie]

Personally I prefer oxymorphone over heroin. For me the rush is greater and more euphoric, and I feel this warmth grow from the center of my body. However, it's important to remember that every person reacts differently to any given drug.

I'm curious to know which people prefer between hydromorphone and oxymorphone. I would think that since oxycodone is stronger then hydrocodone, that oxymorphone would be stronger then hydromorphone, but I don't have a degree in pharmokinetics.

[tokabol23]

Personally I prefer oxymorphone over heroin. For me the rush is greater and more euphoric, and I feel this warmth grow from the center of my body. However, it's important to remember that every person reacts differently to any given drug.

I'm curious to know which people prefer between hydromorphone and oxymorphone. I would think that since oxycodone is stronger then hydrocodone, that oxymorphone would be stronger then hydromorphone, but I don't have a degree in pharmokinetics.

lol i dont think thats quite how it works, but i also dont have a degree. I definetely prefer hydromorphone. Way bettter rush, but i rarely shoot it. Oxymorph ive only tried a couple times but its hard to get where im att. I wasnt too fond of it. but evvvvveryones different.

[MEKONE]

I'm currently scripted Oxymorphone IR and can tell you from personal experiences that Oxymorphone is quite similar to H as it gives more of a body type high unlike Oxycodone.
I guess it all depends on what do you prefer,personally I'm happy with my current meds as they compliment each other quite well.

[OpiumKing]

I'd have to say oxymorphone. Especially the IRs. The H around here has declined quality wise. And I don't run into any problems shooting the IRs. The ERs, as we all know, are a pain in the fucking ass. I also prefer hydromorphone over oxymorphone though. Always love the dilaudid/coke IV combo. Just a little bit of coke though.
O.K.

[NY Hippie]

lol i dont think thats quite how it works, but i also dont have a degree. I definetely prefer hydromorphone.

Really, you do prefer hydromorphone? That's interesting, because I know that oxymorphone has the same relationship to morphine as oxycodone has to codeine, and that hydromorphone has the same relationship to morphine as hydrocodone has to codeine, so therefore one would think that oxymorphone has the same relationship to hydromorphone as oxycodone has to hydrocodone. I've also read that it's theorized that the oxygen bridge imparts some stimulant like properties to the drug, so maybe that's where the preferential difference lies.


I also prefer hydromorphone over oxymorphone though. Always love the dilaudid/coke IV combo. Just a little bit of coke though.
O.K.

Thanks for that opinion; a friend of mine has been holding onto some dilaudids for me, so I'll be trying those soon. I'll be getting four 8mg pills. I wonder how mixing one of those with one of my 5mg Opana IRs (that I get prescribed) would feel shot up :) I'm thinking heaven.

[Computerdoc80]

I am prescribed 80mg of opana ER (2 40's) 2x a day. I hate to beat a dead horse, but has anyone actually discovered how to extract the oxymorphone from the "gelled mass" ? I tried soaking 3 40's in warm water with a little vinegar for 2 days. not knowing how to turn it into powder, I just drank it down (blobs of gel and all). I definitely felt it. I haven't IV'd anything for 20+ years, but there has to be a better way of getting at the goodies in this little pill! Any opinions/suggested procedure??

[NY Hippie]

I am prescribed 80mg of opana ER (2 40's) 2x a day. I hate to beat a dead horse, but has anyone actually discovered how to extract the oxymorphone from the "gelled mass" ? I tried soaking 3 40's in warm water with a little vinegar for 2 days. not knowing how to turn it into powder, I just drank it down (blobs of gel and all). I definitely felt it. I haven't IV'd anything for 20+ years, but there has to be a better way of getting at the goodies in this little pill! Any opinions/suggested procedure??

Yeah, there's a sticky at the top of this sub-forum - http://forum.opiophile.org/showthread.php?t=26191

[mikey5string]

fuck all. i have never even SEEN an opana let alone tried one. i keep hearing how great they are. i want some. BAD.

its just not around here. on the streets anyway. seems like a gotta know someone deal.

[NY Hippie]

fuck all. i have never even SEEN an opana let alone tried one. i keep hearing how great they are. i want some. BAD.

its just not around here. on the streets anyway. seems like a gotta know someone deal.

Yeah, it's not on the streets at all here either. I was lucky enough to get a prescription for it. I'm in my 20's and I don't look like the most innocent person, so it was really hard for me to get anything for my back injury other then tramadol and muscle relaxants, but I went to this new doctor who's going to be doing my surgery, and he had no problem prescribing me the good stuff. I think the trouble is that Opana is relatively new and not a lot of average drug users know about it, so the demand isn't great enough right now, but give it some time, maybe a couple of years, and Opana will be more popular and infamous than OxyContin.

[bodytec]

fuck all. i have never even SEEN an opana let alone tried one. i keep hearing how great they are. i want some. BAD.

its just not around here. on the streets anyway. seems like a gotta know someone deal.

same story here,sure wish someone around me would bring them around.

[TigerFan]

Actually, when I tried sniffing Opana I could not believe that it was actually comparable to heroin. Dumb asses say that oxycontin is "synthetic heroin" or "hick heroin", but actually the only pharm that is TRULY comparable to good H (my opinion) is oxymorphone. Actually refer to Opana as "The Champagne of Opiates" because it's so smooth and delicious. Heroin is like vodka I guess, it does the trick.

I'd still choose H over opana though, just because you have to crush/scrape pill coating to do (sniff) opana.

BTW, NYhippie: Damn, I can't believe getting a script for oxymorphone and only being in ur 20s. Most docs it seems are afraid to prescribe hydrocodone, especially to the 20-something-year-old age group, ah well who knows. But oxymorphone has been around since like 1915 and first hit the US market in 1959, it's not really new. Would have been so nice to live back when there were ONLY narcotic pain meds to prescribe. Ohhh, you have a headache? Here's some opium pills, now be sure to wash them down with the morphine syrup!

[NY Hippie]

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BTW, NYhippie: Damn, I can't believe getting a script for oxymorphone and only being in ur 20s. Most docs it seems are afraid to prescribe hydrocodone, especially to the 20-something-year-old age group, ah well who knows. But oxymorphone has been around since like 1915 and first hit the US market in 1959, it's not really new. Would have been so nice to live back when there were ONLY narcotic pain meds to prescribe. Ohhh, you have a headache? Here's some opium pills, now be sure to wash them down with the morphine syrup!

Well previously it's only been available in a suppository I believe. Opana is the first oral version of oxymorphone that I'm aware of, and it's only about a year old if I remember correctly.

[port rhombus]

This thread makes me wish I could actually do a head-to-head comparison of the two. I've been on a maintenance dose of Opana for a while now; taking more on top of it is nothing special. H, on the other hand, works wonders for treating my breakthrough pain and/or makes a nice treat.

[TigerFan]

This thread makes me wish I could actually do a head-to-head comparison of the two. I've been on a maintenance dose of Opana for a while now; taking more on top of it is nothing special. H, on the other hand, works wonders for treating my breakthrough pain and/or makes a nice treat.

Kind of like the RC-cola/pepsi challenge?

[OverDriven]

lol i dont think thats quite how it works, but i also dont have a degree.

Actually, that is how it works. Oxymorphone is to hydromorphone what oxycodone is to hydrocodone. Oxymorphone is therefore about 50% stronger than hydromorphone.

[jack-a-roe]

Ok guys I gotta chime in here, I have never had good H so can't answer that part of discussion but, I was scripted hydromorphone (8mg dillies) and oxymorphone (10mg opana IRs) and I like the dillies better. When SWIM Ivd the dillies the rush was short but intense, a great "hang-on, oh shit" 30-45 seconds, while the opana is a mellower yet longer lasting buzz, nice but not as crazy and intense as the hydromorph rush. That's jack-a-roe's two cents:)

[NY Hippie]

Actually, that is how it works. Oxymorphone is to hydromorphone what oxycodone is to hydrocodone. Oxymorphone is therefore about 50% stronger than hydromorphone.

Ok guys I gotta chime in here, I have never had good H so can't answer that part of discussion but, I was scripted hydromorphone (8mg dillies) and oxymorphone (10mg opana IRs) and I like the dillies better. When SWIM Ivd the dillies the rush was short but intense, a great "hang-on, oh shit" 30-45 seconds, while the opana is a mellower yet longer lasting buzz, nice but not as crazy and intense as the hydromorph rush. That's jack-a-roe's two cents:)

I find this extremely interesting that a few people now have stated that they prefer the rush of hydropmorphone over oxymorphone, when the oxymorphone is stronger. Especially since you are taking 2mg less of the hydromorphone then the oxymorphone.

Anyone want to venture as guess as to why people find the hydromorphone rush more intense?

[OverDriven]

I find this extremely interesting that a few people now have stated that they prefer the rush of hydropmorphone over oxymorphone, when the oxymorphone is stronger. Especially since you are taking 2mg less of the hydromorphone then the oxymorphone.

Anyone want to venture as guess as to why people find the hydromorphone rush more intense?

Nothing hits like hydromorphone. I don't know the pharmacokinetics of those particular drugs, but it's likely because hydromorphone crosses the blood-brain barrier faster than oxymorphone. That produces a strong rush. Rush isn't at all dependent on strength. Hydromorphone is also said to produce a stronger rush than fentanyl, and fent is many times stronger than hydromorphone. So in the end, rush is due to a drug's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier quickly, while overall strength is dependent upon the drug's analgesic effect per dose amount.

[jack-a-roe]

Nothing hits like hydromorphone. I don't know the pharmacokinetics of those particular drugs, but it's likely because hydromorphone crosses the blood-brain barrier faster than oxymorphone. That produces a strong rush. Rush isn't at all dependent on strength. Hydromorphone is also said to produce a stronger rush than fentanyl, and fent is many times stronger than hydromorphone. So in the end, rush is due to a drug's ability to cross the blood-brain barrier quickly, while overall strength is dependent upon the drug's analgesic effect per dose amount.

Ya what he says^^^^:)