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Hiems
07-10-2009, 07:45 PM
Hey guys I need some help,
Sorry if this has been covered before, I searched through the forum but couldn't fund any specific answers to the questions I have.
Anyways, a friend of friends cat has Opana IR 10 mg and has been having dreams about IVing them. However some significant problems have been encountered.
The method that is dreamed about is such: a pill is crushed and placed in a spoon. Then COLD water is added and the mixture is stirred and allowed to sit for a few minutes. Next a cue tip filter is added and the solution is drawn up into a 1 cc rig. Now the problem that is that after the rig is about half full with solution, the rig seems to get clogged and it is very hard to pull the remaining 1/2-1/3 of the solution into the rig. Also it after blasting off there seems to be some pink sediment remaining in the rig that is almost impossible to get off.. There is usually some pink particles on the plunger rubber which can be rubbed off, but there is also sediment inside the rig on the needle side which cant be removed in spite of agitating it and using alcohol etc to try to get it off.
After noticing this the process was changed such that now after filtering and drawing up into the rig, the solution is then put into another spoon and another clean filter is added and the solution is drawn up into a NEW rig. So now the method used is the solution is double filtered. Still it seems that the rig gets clogged and that there is maybe still some particulate matter in the solution. Anybody have and advice on how I can do this more effectively / safely?
Also one was curious about how exactly iv compares to to intranasal in terms of bioavailability and duration (assuming one uses intranasally followed by a high fat meal). I know I have read somewhere that intranasal bioavailability is aroudn 43% and probably up to 60% w/ a high fat chaser. Also although I have read here that IV wears off a lot quicker than intransal, I have read online some research papers claiming that elimination profiles are about the same for IV and intransal. Assuming that when IVing a lot remains in the solution and only 80% of the pill makes it into solution, is it correct to assume that iv/intranasal is about the same?
Thanks in advance for any information fellas, I have been frequenting this site for almost 8 years now although I do not post often, and by far I think this is the best harm reduction site and source of information about opies on the web. Thanks again to everyone for contributing and making this such a great community. Have a good weekend everyone!

sigma
07-10-2009, 08:31 PM
Good luck with this man, Opana gels up when water hits it, which is what makes it extended release, i usually just snort em. Im pretty sure theres no way around this, but i could be wrong.

chopstix
07-10-2009, 09:37 PM
The red IRs don't gel at all - use a lot of cold water and a HUGE cotton - if there's sediment in the rig, refilter that shit.. There will be quite a bit of filler left over, they're kind of a pain to prep but oooohhhhh lordy....

SeVeN
07-10-2009, 09:52 PM
As far as the Rig getting clogged half way up; have you tried a different one or is it the same one every time?

sigma
07-10-2009, 11:49 PM
i was wrong, i got IR confused with ER

Synack
07-11-2009, 03:50 PM
Hiems, Look at the VERY FIRST thread in this sub section.. I usually filter it several times - but I never absolutely HAD too, I could draw up with a large single filter without any problem. Your shot will be pink'ish and that residue doesn't seem to go away even with excessive filting - but the residue will stick to the plunger if you turn it needle up and allow it to settle - this way you won't inject it if you leave just a bit of solution in the rig.

What size syringes are you using?

djbrutis
07-13-2009, 07:48 PM
this question is a little off topic, but not completely random.

when you were mentioning bio-availability percentages and whatnot, you said something about "chasing" Opana with a high-fat meal, in order to increase the bio-availability of INTRANASAL Opana. Does the time in which you eat the high fat meal (in order to increase B/A%) hold any significant difference to eat the meal BEFORE or AFTER the snorted Opana?

SWIM dreams of IR oxymorphone.. just to snort a l15mg line would allow him to die happy.. hahaha