Hammilton
06-13-2006, 11:19 PM
Hi, I'm new here and this'll be my first post. I'm wondering what subjective effects you try to acheive or look for when using a narcotic. Let me explain a little bit.
I'm a frequent user of methadone due to an elbow/shoulder injury. I abused narcotics before I went in for treatment so I'm given methadone on the premise that it's impossible to abuse (so they're wrong.). When I take my dose, within 45minutes to an hour and a half, I am pleasantly oped up, but that isn't what I'm going for (besides pain control, that is). Once I begin to notice the warm, slightly euphoric sedation, I will usually lay down and concentrate on my physical sensations. If this all goes right, within a few seconds to fifteen minutes, my body will suddenly go numb and then I'll be filled with a sensation remarkably similar to an orgasm, albeit on that's encompassing my entire body. After a minute or so, this state will discontinue itself and I'll revert back to normal. If I don't open my eyes or move too much this will repeat itself, usually three or four times, but sometimes dozens and each time it seems to last longer. This happens to be more pronounced if I take my adderall within a few hours of the methadone, but I've no indication that it's actually caused by the amphetamine. Does anyone else experience this? I've not met anyone else thusfar who understands what I'm talking about, so hopefully the gathering of more experienced narcotic-lovers can help me out.
Another effect I've not seen anyone describe is this unusual internal dialogue I experience. Mostly I've noticed this under the effect of Poppy-tea and opium, so its possible that the minor alkaloids play a role in causing it. I do notice it on methadone, but it is not nearly as pronounced. When I was using tea heavily last summer, I would often take it at nights after work, around 11:00pm. I would then lay down as the tea kicked in and drift off with my thoughts. These 'thoughts' would deal with various topics, ones I'd usually forget by the time I came to, but always worked the same way. The feeling of a sudden numbness would be present (but not work in pulses) like the above example, but instead of the orgasm, I'd begin a conversation in my head. I was distinctly *not* talking to myself , but to other voices, voices of people I know. I don't think this is neccessarily a reflection of psychosis since opiates typically dull that, not amplify it; And the voices I heard weren't thought of as real as far as I can remember, but rather some sort of audiological dream. I was extremely paranoid during this time period and off my bipolar medications, but I don't become psychotic unless I 'm extremely can't-get-out-of-bed depressed or haven't-slept-in-days manic, and I was neither. One other difference in the high I noticed was that the tea would leave me in this state for many hours, half sleeping, half awake, and I would not rest, leading to some incrediblely bad mornings. I wouldn't sleep at all because I was too busy talking to the voices in my head lol.
With methadone that doesn't happen really. I seem to be able to sleep a lot better with it.
Methadone also has an effect on the NMDA system, aka the system of PCP, Ketamine and dextromorphan, which may be why with methadone my skin becomes remarkably more numb than with any other narcotic.
Thanks,
Hammilton
I'm a frequent user of methadone due to an elbow/shoulder injury. I abused narcotics before I went in for treatment so I'm given methadone on the premise that it's impossible to abuse (so they're wrong.). When I take my dose, within 45minutes to an hour and a half, I am pleasantly oped up, but that isn't what I'm going for (besides pain control, that is). Once I begin to notice the warm, slightly euphoric sedation, I will usually lay down and concentrate on my physical sensations. If this all goes right, within a few seconds to fifteen minutes, my body will suddenly go numb and then I'll be filled with a sensation remarkably similar to an orgasm, albeit on that's encompassing my entire body. After a minute or so, this state will discontinue itself and I'll revert back to normal. If I don't open my eyes or move too much this will repeat itself, usually three or four times, but sometimes dozens and each time it seems to last longer. This happens to be more pronounced if I take my adderall within a few hours of the methadone, but I've no indication that it's actually caused by the amphetamine. Does anyone else experience this? I've not met anyone else thusfar who understands what I'm talking about, so hopefully the gathering of more experienced narcotic-lovers can help me out.
Another effect I've not seen anyone describe is this unusual internal dialogue I experience. Mostly I've noticed this under the effect of Poppy-tea and opium, so its possible that the minor alkaloids play a role in causing it. I do notice it on methadone, but it is not nearly as pronounced. When I was using tea heavily last summer, I would often take it at nights after work, around 11:00pm. I would then lay down as the tea kicked in and drift off with my thoughts. These 'thoughts' would deal with various topics, ones I'd usually forget by the time I came to, but always worked the same way. The feeling of a sudden numbness would be present (but not work in pulses) like the above example, but instead of the orgasm, I'd begin a conversation in my head. I was distinctly *not* talking to myself , but to other voices, voices of people I know. I don't think this is neccessarily a reflection of psychosis since opiates typically dull that, not amplify it; And the voices I heard weren't thought of as real as far as I can remember, but rather some sort of audiological dream. I was extremely paranoid during this time period and off my bipolar medications, but I don't become psychotic unless I 'm extremely can't-get-out-of-bed depressed or haven't-slept-in-days manic, and I was neither. One other difference in the high I noticed was that the tea would leave me in this state for many hours, half sleeping, half awake, and I would not rest, leading to some incrediblely bad mornings. I wouldn't sleep at all because I was too busy talking to the voices in my head lol.
With methadone that doesn't happen really. I seem to be able to sleep a lot better with it.
Methadone also has an effect on the NMDA system, aka the system of PCP, Ketamine and dextromorphan, which may be why with methadone my skin becomes remarkably more numb than with any other narcotic.
Thanks,
Hammilton