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Citrus
06-28-2009, 04:41 PM
First of all, for all the people that I know are going to jump right out and yell: Use the search engine you fucking opio-noooob!!! I've UTFSE, and I cant find a legit answer, could anyone tell me; What makes 'Scramble Heroin', ... Scramble?

I don't get it, whats the difference? Does it feel like regular raw?? Help a midwest brother out!


:confused::confused::confused:

SeVeN
06-28-2009, 04:50 PM
I thought scramble was H and C. Not too use to hearing that though so could be wrong.

nick
06-28-2009, 04:55 PM
It's h whisked with eggs and cooked lightly.

I thought it was ready cut h.Well,more cut than raw anyway.

Rent
06-28-2009, 05:04 PM
Here in the midwest it's overly cut h, bought in capsules. I just noticed your in Mi too. I bet it's cut to shit.

StackBundles
06-28-2009, 06:08 PM
Never have seen scramble.
I usually only see dope in rocks. Decent sized rocks at that.

Citrus... You notice the quality of the light tan is getting even better. The last Snickers me and my boy ran through was definately a 10 where it's usually an 8. 150mg to 200mg shots were doing me in. I actually had a couple of black outs and the 45 minute stand up nod.

Shit.

krinkov
06-28-2009, 09:53 PM
Never have seen scramble.
I usually only see dope in rocks. Decent sized rocks at that.

Citrus... You notice the quality of the light tan is getting even better. The last Snickers me and my boy ran through was definately a 10 where it's usually an 8. 150mg to 200mg shots were doing me in. I actually had a couple of black outs and the 45 minute stand up nod.

Shit.


I ran into some of that stuff a couple weeks ago. Put me right out, or at least that's what the paramedics told me. :(

InfectedMushroom
06-29-2009, 12:07 AM
I thought Scramble was mostly a B-More thing, but it's already cut up H .

StackBundles
06-29-2009, 01:45 AM
Street legend has it that Nicky Barnes coined the term. I guess it's just dope that's been hacked to shit. Like 10% or less.

It's probably the same as what the old timers in Detroit used to call "mixed jive", which is basically a bogue bag.

Ever hear the term "Mac" before? It's what used to be now known as a bag, pack, blow, or stamp, at least around Detroit anyways. The reason they were refered to as "Macs" was because back then dealers would pack up using those old McDonald's coffee spoons. Those were fairly decent sized, around .2g. of powder per bag, so imagine how much cut was in that shit.

SB

Citrus
06-29-2009, 06:26 AM
Mac spoons are still around, My dude brings shit from the city, to me(local hook) and he uses a macspoon to 'weigh' out or measure his bags. They are pretty hard to find though, unless youre in the game. But my buddy bought his mac spoon for like $20 bucks, alot for a little plastic McDonalds spoon. 1 spoon = 1 pack; round herrr.

I heard about this Mike Tyson, thats going around, would like to get my hands on some! :( My shits been kinda blehh the past week or 2. Itll all come back around though. I get by with a little help, from my friends, right boys?

The reason I ask about the scramble, is because I read a few times about people that actually 'prefer' the scramble high, to the raw, in specifically in and around Baltimore. I was just wondering why scramble had a different high? I also heard the rush from scramble is sometimes better than the raw, if you've got the right hooks. Just wondering what makes it so different.. Is all

-C

krinkov
06-30-2009, 07:34 PM
Mac spoons are still around, My dude brings shit from the city, to me(local hook) and he uses a macspoon to 'weigh' out or measure his bags. They are pretty hard to find though, unless youre in the game. But my buddy bought his mac spoon for like $20 bucks, alot for a little plastic McDonalds spoon. 1 spoon = 1 pack; round herrr.

I heard about this Mike Tyson, thats going around, would like to get my hands on some! :( My shits been kinda blehh the past week or 2. Itll all come back around though. I get by with a little help, from my friends, right boys?

The reason I ask about the scramble, is because I read a few times about people that actually 'prefer' the scramble high, to the raw, in specifically in and around Baltimore. I was just wondering why scramble had a different high? I also heard the rush from scramble is sometimes better than the raw, if you've got the right hooks. Just wondering what makes it so different.. Is all

-C

From what I've heard, you can still get Mac spoons in Canada. So, your buddy could have gone through the tunnel and got himself one for free. Hehehe. Silly guy. :D

chemiKalz
06-30-2009, 08:05 PM
What the fuck is so speacial about a mcdonalds spoon? Mcdonalds still has spoons as far as I know. Wouldn't you rather pay 20 dollars for a fucking scale? LOL

Somanax
06-30-2009, 08:15 PM
I have to agree with Nick

scramble is just cut dope

raw is dope you buy to cut for sale

and keep for personal use

at least that is how I did it in Baltimore

StackBundles
06-30-2009, 08:49 PM
A scale to bag up??? Ha ha ha... You'd be there for hours just tryna' break down 10 grizzies. Old school Mac spoons were perfect for the job of getting uniformly weighed out packs. Using a scale to bag would be most ridiculous and time consuming. I suppose if you zeroed out your scale with a fold on it so you could wiegh then dump your shit in a bag off of the fold that would work, but it would still take forever, considering the alternative. Plus spillage is an issue.

A guy I know just takes his weight, puts it in a bag, hammers it with a frying pan a few times, then scoops it out using one of those slushie straws that have that little spoon thingie on the end. The bags are dead ona a tenth, everytime. Takes less than a half hour to do a dime.

krinkov
07-01-2009, 11:45 PM
What the fuck is so speacial about a mcdonalds spoon? Mcdonalds still has spoons as far as I know. Wouldn't you rather pay 20 dollars for a fucking scale? LOL

It's not just a normal sized spoon. These are small spoons. They stopped using them here specifically because of the drug trade.

Here is what we are talking about:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y295/shop_rat45/macspoon.jpg

InfectedMushroom
07-02-2009, 06:17 PM
Yeah they look familiar from a long time ago, I'm not a McDonalds person though and I may be mistaken.

Edit: A quick check on a certain internet site showed them selling for 1.00 with free shipping, and plenty of em on there. Might pick one up to stir some hot chocolate.

chemiKalz
07-02-2009, 07:50 PM
I remember those spoons!!! HAHAH now I see why they use em, but still 20 bucks?!!!

Citrus
07-02-2009, 10:20 PM
A quick check on a certain internet site showed them selling for 1.00 with free shipping, and plenty of em on there.



What site?

krinkov
07-03-2009, 05:37 AM
What site?

eBay maybe? ;)

DreamSellerInc
07-03-2009, 07:34 AM
What site?

are we that lazy today? everyone's got the same internet. www.justfuckinggoogleit.com

Citrus
07-03-2009, 07:49 AM
.. Dreamseller, show me then. Ive googled McSpoon/Mac Spoons for sale and only found one site that sells them, and they sell them for like 10-15 bucks plus shipping, not 1 dollar. So I'd like to know.

Id like Dreamseller to show me the site, since is so easy to 'just fucking google it'

"Are we that lazy today?" Who are you talking to? I Know you aren't talking to me, because with that statement, it looks like you know even the slightest thing about me, when in fact; you don't.

Anyways like I said, I've only found one site through google that sells those spoons, cept eBay, and I've seen them go for WAY over a dollar on eBay

Sweater Ruin
07-03-2009, 10:13 AM
I tried to search for the McSpoon too and I couldn't find any selling in the $1-5 range. I'd be curious to see this $1 McSpoon aswell.

Yes I used google.
I even tried to use Bing, which fucking sucks and couldn't search it's way out of a closet!

Citrus
07-03-2009, 10:16 AM
I'll take 50 mac spoons for $50, all DAY.

StackBundles
07-03-2009, 12:54 PM
This thread has turned into something special.

+1

krinkov
07-03-2009, 02:07 PM
I''m not going to post a direct link, but just go to eBay and search "Mcdonald spoon" You WILL find it.
If you guys can't figure it out like that, I give up.

DreamSellerInc
07-03-2009, 05:04 PM
oh my god. I was totally just joking. i think someone took that a little too seriously

btw. they were um "mcspoons"

InfectedMushroom
07-03-2009, 05:06 PM
Beat me to it Krin, I was going to just say that. Type in Mcdonalds Spoon and you WILL get results for 1.00...this is srs bsns

StackBundles
07-03-2009, 05:12 PM
"McDonald's Spoon" not MacSpoon. McSpoon might work.

Citrus
07-03-2009, 07:43 PM
..LOL; I know how its spelled. I just prefer to say it like "Mack Spoon" I just think its utterly stoopid to say "McSpoon". Like an irish surname. Doper-ton Mc-Spoony, heh.

Or when referring the item to a friend, IRL.. I would say something like "Yeah it was only 5 mac's" or I just call them scoops. Like "Yeah, you owe me another 12 scoops. Meaning 6 packs.


Oh wait, were you guys referring to what to search for via ebay? My bad

StackBundles
07-03-2009, 08:08 PM
Damn, Citrus, you got "rig rage" or something? Shit, I get a little testy when I'm high sometimes too. Shit, when am I not high.

Everything that comes out of McDonald's has a "Mc" in front of it. "Can I get some McKetchup and a McStraw with that please?"

I need to go catch one. My buzz is wearing off. I hate this fucking mini keyboard.

BTW Citrus, Good to hear your "mans" straightened his shit up. I'm gonna' start a fast food joint off of VanDyke and call it McReginald's.

Citrus
07-03-2009, 09:06 PM
Why does everyone think I'm mad? I may have been earlier for like 3 seconds, but I am not butthurt in anyway..


Anyways...........





















IM FUCKING SUPER HIGH, AGAIN. I LOVE YOU GUYS, NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU HATE ME!

I'm going to go pass/nod out, goodnight everyone!

Citrus
07-10-2009, 01:22 PM
I still would like to know the difference, if anyone knows.

krinkov
07-10-2009, 02:40 PM
Scramble is H that is cut down so much that you have to shoot it just to feel it. You wouldn't feel it if you snorted it.

Indy
07-10-2009, 02:46 PM
I bet rachamim would know. i have a hunch that there's something else than the fact that it's cut to shit and put in gel caps, but i don't know, so krinkov might be right.

I was going to say that it's cut with OTC sleeping pills, but then i remembered that no, that's "cheese" heroin :D(that still makes me laugh).

nick
07-10-2009, 02:53 PM
I bet rachamim would know. i have a hunch that there's something else than the fact that it's cut to shit and put in gel caps, but i don't know, so krinkov might be right.

I was going to say that it's cut with OTC sleeping pills, but then i remembered that no, that's "cheese" heroin :D(that still makes me laugh).

Is tylenol used for sleep? I thought it was a cold med-I guess it could be used for sleep.

nhop
07-10-2009, 03:02 PM
Scramble is a Baltimore specific word that denotes "cut" dope. In Bmore, one can purchase either scramble or raw. Whatever they cut the dope with (i'm not sure what they use, maybe quinine.?) tends to give a better 'rush' when injected than raw dope alone.

[QUOTE]Is tylenol used for sleep? I thought it was a cold med-I guess it could be used for sleep./[QUOTE]

Tylenol is a us brand name for acetaminophen, what you in Europe know as paracetamol.

StackBundles
07-10-2009, 03:10 PM
I already explained it, bro. It's just hacked to shit dope. Simple. I think even a B-More head broke it down.

Nikki Barnes coined the term, and it's what he used to refer to weak ass street dope, even beat bags. It is cut with either diphenhydramine or B-12.

nick
07-10-2009, 03:12 PM
Scramble is a Baltimore specific word that denotes "cut" dope. In Bmore, one can purchase either scramble or raw. Whatever they cut the dope with (i'm not sure what they use, maybe quinine.?) tends to give a better 'rush' when injected than raw dope alone.

[QUOTE]Is tylenol used for sleep? I thought it was a cold med-I guess it could be used for sleep./[QUOTE]

Tylenol is a us brand name for acetaminophen, what you in Europe know as paracetamol.

Sure,we actually have tylenol brand as well,but it's only marketed for colds not as a sleep aid.I was interested in it being used/sold as a sleep aid.Maybe a different formula?

Morphus
07-10-2009, 03:23 PM
There are a plethora of multi ingredient OTC formulations, often containing tylenol, diphenhydramine, for taking care of cold/flu symptoms. "cheese" as I understood is extremely dilute smack cut with diphenydramine (benadryl) or tylenol PM, which contains diphenydramine. But, I have read that alot of the higher quality dope in chicago, st louis etc is cut with diphenydramine because it has a sedative effect and makes an effective cut. This "cheese" shit is just stepped the fuck on dope, good to introduce opio naive youngsters to, I guess without being marketed as the dread HEROIN

Citrus
07-10-2009, 03:38 PM
Nevermind... Not one person actually answered all my questions..

Stack; no shit its cut, read the earlier posts, I want to know what its cut with and why some heads PREFER it to raw...

Dude chill out, I listened to your post, but you didn't answer the right questions, I saw you bro, I see you there, chill out. Nicky Barnes? Someones been watching too much American Gangster and The Wire.

Indy
07-10-2009, 05:22 PM
[QUOTE=nhop;399054]Scramble is a Baltimore specific word that denotes "cut" dope. In Bmore, one can purchase either scramble or raw. Whatever they cut the dope with (i'm not sure what they use, maybe quinine.?) tends to give a better 'rush' when injected than raw dope alone.

[QUOTE]Is tylenol used for sleep? I thought it was a cold med-I guess it could be used for sleep./

Sure,we actually have tylenol brand as well,but it's only marketed for colds not as a sleep aid.I was interested in it being used/sold as a sleep aid.Maybe a different formula?Yeah we have "Tylenol PM" - just what we need, more APAP products that people don't even know contain APAP. I always thought "cheese" was H cut with diphenhydramine containing products, like tylenol PM, or sleepinol (that one doesn't have paracetamol) but you're right, plain tylenol isn't marketed for sleep. I'm not sure if "Cheese" means cut with tylenol, tylenol AND dph, or just dph. something tells me they don't really have a set "recipe" for it, either.

abner
07-10-2009, 05:25 PM
Nevermind... Not one person actually answered all my questions..

Stack; no shit its cut, read the earlier posts, I want to know what its cut with and why some heads PREFER it to raw...

Dude chill out, I listened to your post, but you didn't answer the right questions, I saw you bro, I see you there, chill out. Nicky Barnes? Someones been watching too much American Gangster and The Wire.


seriously, what the fuck is up your ass half the time you post here?

StackBundles
07-10-2009, 05:38 PM
^^^Nicky Barnes is fictional or something? And he wasn't one of the first to start stamping bags either? Wasn't AMERICAN GANGSTER about Frank Lucas?

Anyways, FROM WHAT I HAVE READ, and I can't post a link 'cause I am on a phone, it is just what people have ALREADY told you.

A simple google check would have confirmed this. The first million hits state..."Scramble = Ready cut, low purity dope for the street."

Simple... And yeah, Nicky Barned SUPPOSEDLY coined the term. Shit, someone has to birth slang, it just don't pop up. When they used to sell weight back then, you couldn't get raw, for the most part, because those dudes wanted to keep a stranglehold on the market, so anything they pushed out to their street level dudes was "scramble" hence the term.

Why people might prefer it? Certain cuts supposedly up the rush factor. I investigated that shit myself a few times and hacked some D up with Diphen, but I didn't notice much.

There has been a long history of addicts compounding shit for the rush... T's and Blue, etc. That shit dates back to the old school way. Nowadays, our dope is so good that you don't gotta' mix it.

And Citrus, chill bro. I was just tryna' get you an answer. No need to get crazy, my man. Were boys n' shit sooo....

Did you check your VM's?

sigma
07-10-2009, 06:46 PM
Hello, im from Baltimore and had a scramble habit for a number of years. Scramble is raw heroin mixed with quinine. The final result is a substance that is fluffy and slightly resembles powdered sugar, with flecks of raw throughout. When you hit it with water the quinine dissolves immediately, and you procede to cook it up to dissolve the raw. The scramble rush is MUCH MUCH stronger than plain raw and after one catches a good scramble habit, plain raw produces a very little rush. You still get high but not realy that much of a rush. Lots of people snort scramble but its fucking nasty to me, scramble is def shooters heroin. If you enjoy a good rush, try some scramble.

Answer your question? Feel free to ask more, anything related to scramble dope or Baltimore dope, i can help you out.

KiloByte
07-10-2009, 07:45 PM
Hello, im from Baltimore and had a scramble habit for a number of years. Scramble is raw heroin mixed with quinine. The final result is a substance that is fluffy and slightly resembles powdered sugar, with flecks of raw throughout. When you hit it with water the quinine dissolves immediately, and you procede to cook it up to dissolve the raw. The scramble rush is MUCH MUCH stronger than plain raw and after one catches a good scramble habit, plain raw produces a very little rush. You still get high but not realy that much of a rush. Lots of people snort scramble but its fucking nasty to me, scramble is def shooters heroin. If you enjoy a good rush, try some scramble.

Answer your question? Feel free to ask more, anything related to scramble dope or Baltimore dope, i can help you out.

Just wondering, why not get the purer shit then add a little quinine to it yourself?

sigma
07-10-2009, 09:03 PM
Just wondering, why not get the purer shit then add a little quinine to it yourself?
im not sure i understand what you mean by "the purer shit". people seem to think that scramble is raw heroin thats cut to shit which lowers the quality. in fact, the quinine is added to the pure shit to increase the potency of the rush. scramble is just raw mixed with quinine right before it hits the streets. you could literally pick through the dope and seperate the raw from the quinine if you wanted to and had a little patience. also, im not sure how the laws are elsewhere, but in maryland quinine is considered a precursor chemical and is just as illegal as the actual heroin, not to mention its extremely hard to find by itself. i think the word im looking for would be synergism. raw by itself is great, but add a little quinine to your shot and the potency of the rush is increased by a factor of 3 (in my opinion ). also, this may help you guys understand a little better. the size of a dime of scramble is much bigger then a dime of raw because the quinune is so fluffy. a dime of scramble is about as big as a standard cigarette filter.

Papa Verine
07-10-2009, 09:17 PM
That makes A lot of fuckin' sense. I didn't know anybody was still using quinine as a cut. I've always heard about it, but don't know if I've ever had it. Around here almost all the RAW is cut with Dormin (Diphenhydramine).

I used to be able to buy Quinine tablets in local stores. They were sold as water purification tablets for camping in the outdoors. I can't find them any more. They are no longer available. I guess they went the way of Potassium Nitrate. Ha...

StackBundles
07-11-2009, 12:22 AM
Thanks for the info dude.

I am wondering though... If I shot just straight up quinine, would I get a rush? Just as equal to, if not better than heroin? Since that shit multiplies the rush threefold?

I think you might be mistaken about quinine being illegal as a precursor, since the legal definition of a precursor is "the raw material to create a new substance". Quinine might be illigal and considered an adulterant if it is discovered in CONJUNCTION with heroin, and you would be charged accordingly, as the law allows.

Adulterant = Pharmacoligically active

Diluent = Filler/quantity extender with no pharmacological activity

Have you ever actually done just straight quinine and if so, what happened?

Oh yeah, Who was the real "Barksdale" who birthed the H trade in B-More back in the day. He came from NY as a teenage, maybe associated with Barnes or Lucas?? His real last name was Barksdale... He was actually cast in The Wire as the old black priest or something that mentored Cutty I think? I'm gonna' have to check up on that shit.
My uncle and cousins have lived all over Maryland and Virginia. Never had B-More D even though my cousins get around down that way. They lived in the city for years... Which, Citrus, is why I dig The Wire so much.

Citrus
07-11-2009, 01:01 AM
Thank you sigma for the extremely helpful and insightful post, just exactly the type of post I was looking for when making this thread...


Stack, I'm just busting your balls, bro! ;)

sigma
07-11-2009, 12:08 PM
stacks, ive never personally injected straight quinine but i have been told that it does produce a rush by itself. im told its kind of unpleasant and has no real euphoria associated with it. and yes i think you may be right about quinine not being considered a precursor chemical. but i know it is illegal. as for barksdale, i have never heard of him.

Indy
07-11-2009, 04:21 PM
Quinine isn't illegal, hell it's in tonic water, but any preparation of it for human consumption requires a prescription because it's controlled by the FDA. You can still buy just plain quinine i think as long as it's not sold for human consumption, and it's not illegal just to possess, but most of those chem supply places don't really deal with the public (i.e. - "minimum order required - 500 kg")

sigma
07-11-2009, 04:47 PM
Quinine isn't illegal, hell it's in tonic water, but any preparation of it for human consumption requires a prescription because it's controlled by the FDA. You can still buy just plain quinine i think as long as it's not sold for human consumption, and it's not illegal just to possess, but most of those chem supply places don't really deal with the public (i.e. - "minimum order required - 500 kg")

in maryland, quinine IS illegal to have in your possession. if they catch you with a baggy of quinine in powder form you will get arrested.

sigma
07-11-2009, 04:53 PM
Just found this on google:

Its an excerpt from Maryland Criminal Law Section 5-620

ยง 5-620. (a) Unless authorized under this title, a person may not:

(1) obtain or attempt to obtain controlled paraphernalia by:

(i) fraud, deceit, misrepresentation, or subterfuge;

(ii) counterfeiting a prescription or a written order;

(iii) concealing a material fact or the use of a false name or address;

(iv) falsely assuming the title of or representing to be a manufacturer, distributor, or authorized provider; or

(v) making or issuing a false or counterfeit prescription or written order; or

(2) possess or distribute controlled paraphernalia under circumstances which reasonably indicate an intention to use the controlled paraphernalia for purposes of illegally administering a controlled dangerous substance.

(b) Evidence of circumstances that reasonably indicate an intent to use controlled paraphernalia to manufacture, administer, distribute, or dispense a controlled dangerous substance unlawfully include the close proximity of the controlled paraphernalia to an adulterant, diluent, or equipment commonly used to illegally manufacture, administer, distribute, or dispense controlled dangerous substances, including:

(1) a scale;

(2) a sieve;

(3) a strainer;

(4) a measuring spoon;

(5) staples;

(6) a stapler;

(7) a glassine envelope;

(8) a gelatin capsule;

(9) procaine hydrochloride;

(10) mannitol;

(11) lactose;

(12) quinine; and

(13) a controlled dangerous substance.

(c) Information that is communicated to a physician to obtain controlled paraphernalia from the physician in violation of this subtitle is not a privileged communication.

(d) (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2) of this subsection, a person who violates this section is guilty of a misdemeanor and on conviction is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 4 years or a fine not exceeding $25,000 or both.

(2) A person who violates this section involving the use or possession of marijuana is subject to imprisonment not exceeding 1 year or a fine not exceeding $1,000 or both.




So its not a precursor chemical, its considered "controlled paraphernalia"

Opiyum
07-22-2009, 07:31 PM
I know that the kids nowadays are buying dope they call "cheese" which is supposedly cut with Tylenol PM. Whether this is true or not and whether it maybe is what this scramble shit is I can't say for sure. I prefer (ed) my heroin to have the normal cutting agents in it.

InfectedMushroom
07-23-2009, 01:09 AM
The cheese thing was big in TX and I think that was just about it. The cheese was all Tylenol PM with a tiny amount of H mixed in. Really wouldn't even qualify as "starter" heroin. It was marketed to young kids who are dumb enough to buy the stuff.

Sweater Ruin
07-23-2009, 09:26 PM
It only took three pages to get a legit answer for scramble.

Well done Sigma! That was very informative. This thread was giving me a headache and I had no clue what scramble was after reading everything. But now I know thanks to you!

China white
08-09-2009, 10:35 PM
i was under the impression that scramble was B-12 plus H...??????

Leave it ta Beaver
08-28-2009, 08:14 PM
Bing from B-more myself,it's usually ya get raw dope on the west side& scrable on the east side( scrable comes in gel caps/pills and is cut w/ B&Q forget the B word but the Q Quadine) An when ya fire da scramble you have ta cook it basically 'till the cut disappears! When I first started doing dope I sniffed mainly raw, but on occassion sniffed some scramble wich is possible unlike what somone said as a reply ,& ya get high as well (i've had better scramble than some raw @ time's) When I was a newbie to doing dope my only contact was on the westside wich sold raw anywhere from 10$, 20$ up to 50$?100$$ Long story short I moved on to firing first raw ( an had to have my friend get me on wich get's old quick cuz ya allways haveto hook 'em up, so I quickly learned w/ pratice cotten shots)Well my ex-girlfriend@ those times lost her car, & we were closer to eastside in wich ya could buy a fellow fiend a 10$ pill of scramble for a hack to get ours so we started only shooting scramble & if you gotta hold of some good stuff it was cheaper& better high/rush then some of the raw! Because after a couple of years of doing raw I woul put atleast 2 twenty's up in da cooker if not more! It also became the same w/ putting 2 up in da cooker w/ da scrambele ( ya have to add more water to scramble so 2 is usually the most ya can do @ once, all though I've occassionally have gottencloseto 3!!!) You get addicted to the cut as well & it usually has better rush then raw. Nowget a 20 of raw & pill of some good scramble and it's great together!!! Throw in a nickle of powder coke & you'd be set!!!! Now a days God only knows what they cut some of the scramble w/!! Raw down this way comes in 'lil baggie'sor vile's & scramble comes in gel gaps (nomore wax packs I've heard thats how it all came 'bou t20 some years, ago before my time!! Take care, everyone!!!:D

Citrus
08-29-2009, 10:18 AM
Thanks B, straight from the horses mouf :D