Does S stand for sulfate?

[sodamnstrong]

I've got 30mg morphine sulfate and was wondering if they would be good enough to shoot. I have 3 of them?
Also, i only have done h and oxy's also 100mgs morphine but dont know if they were sulfate or not so any help would ne appreciated!

[Swellin]

Yes it most likely means sulfate, im on MScontin aka Morphine sulfate continues release, its a pill right? if so its a sulfate.

[mikey5string]

correct me if im wrong but isnt all morphine you get morphine sulfate (MS04)?

[nick]

Yes it's sulphate and yes it's fine to shoot.

Interesting,you guys spell sulphate as sulfate.

[mikey5string]

Yes it's sulphate and yes it's fine to shoot.

Interesting,you guys spell sulphate as sulfate.

you know nick, i actually had sulphate written but when i looked back at the other posts i second guessed myself and changed it.

[More Feen]

The spelling of Sulfate/ Sulphate is one of those British / American differences, both are correct:

The British spell it with the "ph" while Americans use an "f."

In Canada & Austrailia, they use both spellings.

I'm an ex-pat 'Mercan, so I prefer the foh-NET-i-kal-lee spelled version using the F.

Even the element is spelled differently: Sulphur vs Sulfur, and the various compounds that contain Sulfur in them--so this includes the salt formed when Sulfuric Acid is added to Morphine Base to create: Morphine Sulfate. Or Sulphuric Acid and Morphine Sulphate.

Like other Morphine Salts, this greatly increases its water solubility, but diminishes its efficacy (potency) compared to the free base (somewhat).

You can checkthe Wiki page under Morphine. They list a variety of Morphine Salts and their relative strength compared to Morphine Base. I think Morphine Sulfate runs about 75%, while Morphine Hydrochloride runs at 89% or 76% (depending on if there're any water molecules glommed-on).

The Sulfate salt of Morphine has 5 water molecules incorporated in the structure, while the Hydrochloride salt can take 3 water molecules. Judging by the table, it seems that the relative strength of morphine salts decreases with the addition of water molecules. Maybe this is because the water molecules make the salt less lipophilic, by being more polar.

When the Hydrochloride salt of morphine doesn't contain water molecules, it is ~equal to 89%.

I don't know for sure, but I've heard that Morphine Sulfate isn't converted to Heroin as readily, or easily as Morphine Hydrochloride is. This might be the reason that almost all Morphine medication is in the form of the Sulfate salt.

M F

[roxi*stardust]

correct me if im wrong but isnt all morphine you get morphine sulfate (MS04)?
Yes it's sulphate and yes it's fine to shoot.

Interesting,you guys spell sulphate as sulfate.


Most RX Morphine you get will be the sulfate salt. There is a hydrochloride salt of morphine that is RX, though it is not used as much.

Here is an excellent post on drugs.com about it:

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showpost.php?p=373603&postcount=3


Posted by: Pondlife

To compare doses of Morphine salts, you should first determine the amount of freebase present by applying the freebase conversion factor.

This conversion factor is the molecular weight of the freebase divided by the molecular weight of the salt. For morphine HCl this is 285.34 / 321.80 = 0.887. So 10mg of morphine HCl = 10*0.887 = 8.87 mg morphine. This assumes that it's the plain HCl salt, not the hydrate.


This is a good place to start regarding the comparison of 10mg Morphine HCl to other opiates: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12351

[Opiyum]

Are there any Fumarate versions of Morphine approved by the FDA?

[Papa Verine]

I spell Sulfer with the "F" and sulphate with the "PH". What does that make me... an idiot? I imagine so...