Recreational Dose of DXM?

[limitless_euphoria]

So, what do you guys reccomend as a recreational dose of DXM or as my friends call it "DEEmerz?" I took 120 mg to help fight w/d from subs. How much more could I take w/o getting like STUPID fucked up but have a nice experience I guess? Any takers on this one?

[Ickyuck]

I'd go with a 3/4ths of a normal bottle of cough syrup. Its a funny thing when it hits; you'll start to wonder if you took enough, then blam, everything is hilarious, you start to walk funny, and your eyes are huge. Well, that's at least what happens to me. You can always add more; taking too much is a funkill in my opinion.

[limitless_euphoria]

I'd go with a 3/4ths of a normal bottle of cough syrup. Its a funny thing when it hits; you'll start to wonder if you took enough, then blam, everything is hilarious, you start to walk funny, and your eyes are huge. Well, that's at least what happens to me. You can always add more; taking too much is a funkill in my opinion.

Yeah I mixed it w/ like 200 mg of benedryl like in 2003--BAD FUCKING TRIP!!! I think I'll take another 60 mg and we shall see... is feeling nauseated normal??

[Ickyuck]

Its hard to say if its normal; Me, I don't get really nauseated. I like doing it though, its like being drunk and on a ultra low dose of shrooms or something. I hope you have a nice time with it :)

[InfectedMushroom]

http://dxm.darkridge.com/calc.html

[limitless_euphoria]

I ended up taking 12 x 30 mg tabs. IDK, colors looked interesting, like watching HDTV and music sounded pretty cool and I definitely forgot about w/d for a bit. Then I just conked out and awoke now due to small children crying and bitching. Alas, I take refuge in my computer room. I'm still beaming a little bit. Colors have this richness almost like the first time I did shrooms--I see the analogy now.

[wisegal]

i cant STAND dxm, anyone else feel this way? like it is not enjoyable to me whatsoever..

[limitless_euphoria]

Eh, the problem is to really experience it it's all the other crap that comes with it that's dangerous, tylenol, guaifenesin... I was trying to get off on Mucinex DM and it was a waste. I took like 12 of them and I figured 12 x 30 mg outta get me good. I got a little lifted but I forgot those fuckers are 12 hour release. I'd have broken 'em up but I don't know what my body would do with all that guaifenesin in it. I guess you can order DXM online but I'm not that into trying it. I was really looking for a distraction to stave off w/d. I won't have to worry for much longer and actually, although it comes in waves, today I don't notice it as much as breathing issues and congestion. Maybe the Mucinex did help me out last night!

[poonwhalla]

I guess you can order DXM online but I'm not that into trying it.

You can get cough medicine with just DXM as the active ingredient with nothing else at the pharmacy or food stores, you just have to read the back of the box to see whats in it.

[limitless_euphoria]

OK, so I tried again. This time it was a success. W/D was bugging me and IDK guys I just hadddd to get high on something today. It's been a really rough day craving-wise. I've thought of 100 different ways to try to score something but I'm not gonna.

I'm gonna get back on the subs and leave this as a once-in-a-great-while experience. BE CAREFUL though, some of the other ingrediants could be harmful. Also smoked a bone and took a few benedryl.

Good times everybody, good times. Colors look vibrant, I feel wavy, shaky almost as if under water. Slight grainy visualas with tiny voices talking in the background. A weird yellow, gray green bubbling effect when I put on my polarized sun glasses.

Typing up this post is rather neat. It's a light trip though which is what I like! I don't really want to be standing or sitting for too, too long.

Just bored, thought I'd post. :D

[InfectedMushroom]

It's been some time since I tripped on DXM but I remember how i loved rolling around on my bed,lol. Walking was funny as hell but I'd just put on some trippy ass music and relax in the dark. Damn maybe one night I should revisit this drug.

[resorcinol]

Sounds like you want at most a second plat. For me, 400 mg is good for a 2nd, but I'm tiny for a guy (145 pounds, 5'6").

600 mg for me is the dose where I start breaking through into the crazy dissociative hallucinatory stuff.

The 1st plateau isn't even worth it for me anymore (DXM in general is underwhelming to me from excessive use for awhile) but if I wanted a 1st 200 mg would do it (first timers need LESS and almost always overshoot the 1st plateau and go into the 2nd).

900 mg or more and I start to totally "k-hole" ... 4th plateau ... DON'T do this if you have to do anything at all, you'll be stuck to your bed in another world.

[Seedy]

^^ this thread's got me thinking, in my never ending quest to be wasted I've done mushies to death (good times but last night i took like 3 big doses and it wasn't enough, out of shrooms now), maybe it's time to try dxm again. anyone know if it's any good with benzos? makes sense to me, to take the edge off... anyone tried it?

[resorcinol]

^^ this thread's got me thinking, in my never ending quest to be wasted I've done mushies to death (good times but last night i took like 3 big doses and it wasn't enough, out of shrooms now), maybe it's time to try dxm again. anyone know if it's any good with benzos? makes sense to me, to take the edge off... anyone tried it?

I've never combined it with a recreational dose of benzos, but it doesn't interact badly with my therapeutic doses. It seems like it would be OK as long as you don't dose very high ... DXM in dissociative doses causes respiratory depression that could be enhanced by benzos. I'd say just be careful with the dose. Benzos MIGHT reduce the intensity of the "trippy" feelings though ... they tend to do that with classical psychedelics too.

Only bad thing is the "come down" from DXM ... it leaves you feeling like ya took too much of an SSRI for half a day or so after a dissociative level dose.

[Deadfiend]

I myself would just go to a head shop and but some salvia, sit down and find the other worlds.

[resorcinol]

I myself would just go to a head shop and but some salvia, sit down and find the other worlds.

Salvia sounds really hit or miss from person to person. Some people really like it though and it does have a short duration (good for a brief trip to another universe, kinda like DMT, although I feel DMT is probably the superior substance for most psychedelic users).

I've never tried SD and don't think I will even though it's still perfectly legal here. I just have a bad feeling about it ... I just kinda know somehow that I would NOT react well to a kappa agonist. K agonists are known to tend towards being dysphoric whereas 5-ht(2a) agonists (classical LSD like psychedelics) seem neutral on mood such that the outcome depends heavily on set and setting. For some people with salvia I feel even the perfect set and setting wouldn't be enough to prevent a bad trip due to the innate dysphoric leaning results of kappa opioid receptor activation. I just have a feeling I'm one of those folks who would not react well to a kappa agonist (especially one as highly potent as salvinorin a). Even while I was still using opioids I'd have turned down pentazocine even if it was the only thing available ... kappa agonists scare me; I'd rather tough out the dopesick until something with a clean mu opioid selective profile came along. I'm not saying salvia is no good for everyone ... some people like it and don't seem to be adversely effected by kappa agonism ... I just have a gut feeling that I'd be very adversely effected. I think people with history of anxiety disorders are almost certainly more likely to react badly to kappa agonists.

On the other hand, if you're unsure, don't have a current opioid (mu agonist) habit, and can have a trip sitter who knows how to IV --- you can preload a rig with naloxone or naltrexone before you hit the salvia. Both of those drugs are kappa antagonists too in addition to being mu and delta antagonists and would abort a salvia trip should it turn into a nightmare. Yeah salvia wears off quickly anyway, but in a serious psychedelic crisis, the quicker trip-ender might be worth it ... less total psychological horror that way. Don't do this if you're currently dependent on mu agonists though obviously ... you'll stop tripping on the salvia but also go into precipiated withdrawals. EDIT: If you're opioid dependent, buprenorphine is probably a viable alternative. It's a mu partial agonist but a kappa ANTAGONIST so it should also abort a salvia trip. It's less likely to cause precip w/d unless you JUST dosed a full mu agonist (wait a few half lives, but not until dopesick, to try the salvia experiment) and even if it does cause precip w/d it won't be as bad as naloxone or naltrexone precip w/d.

I loved shrooms when I tried them along with pod tea (pod tea to induce euphoria and reduce anxiety since I was a tad apprehensive about the potential of a bad trip due to a history of anxiety but wanted to try a classical psychedelic). It worked out splendidly ... I didn't have any nasty thoughts or feelings during the trip ---- it's possible I would have been fine with the shrooms alone of course, but I couldn't be certain, so the pods were insurance. The trip was much stranger than I could ever have imagined ... the OEVs and CEVs, and the changes in the other senses along with the mixing and crossing of the senses (synesthesia), are minor compared to the profound changes in thought processes and emotions. I understand after that trip why it's very difficult to explain to somebody how shrooms/acid/dmt/etc make you feel aside from explaining the perceptual changes that occur with the five senses. The mental changes really can't be explained in words and need to be experienced... at least, they can't be explained in words that do them justice. It's profoundly strange. I'm not going all Leary here or anything (some people might not enjoy it at all, and I personally wouldn't call it "life changing" --- psychonauts out there, don't kill me ... it's different for everyone of course); it's just very true that the mental changes induced by these drugs are TOO STRANGE to explain to somebody who's never done a psychedelic.

[Seedy]

I've never combined it with a recreational dose of benzos, but it doesn't interact badly with my therapeutic doses. It seems like it would be OK as long as you don't dose very high ... DXM in dissociative doses causes respiratory depression that could be enhanced by benzos. I'd say just be careful with the dose. Benzos MIGHT reduce the intensity of the "trippy" feelings though ... they tend to do that with classical psychedelics too.

Only bad thing is the "come down" from DXM ... it leaves you feeling like ya took too much of an SSRI for half a day or so after a dissociative level dose.


Well i tried it with a friend, i'd taken 1mg clonaz and he's taken 0.5, we had also consumed about 7g of lecithin and a big glass of white grapefruit juice before the trip (apparantly makes it a bit smoother around the edges) we both downed a bottle containing 200mg dxm. within an hour i wasn't feeling too much but my friend had the robo walk going on. We downed another bottle and after about an hour consumed about .2mg 2cb each (up the nose, damn it hurt!). After rolling around in agony a while we were both tripping balls, probably more from the 2cb than the dxm. it was fun for a bit but after a short but very scenic walk i slept about 13 hours! I think i'll try 3 bottles without the 2cb next time.

[Ickyuck]

.. my friend had the robo walk going on....


Hahah, that shit is funny. I *always* get the robo walk when I start feeling the effects. Its like Monty Python's Ministry of Funny Walks.... :D

[Seedy]

^ haha so true :D

[hydro chris]

i took 240mgs of dextro with my reg does of opiates for the first time Friday night. i did get a little nauseated and slight headache in the beginning.
the main thing i notice was i was nodding like crazy for almost one and a 1/2 hours. also it was sorta like i took a decent does of benzos. it definitely felt like i was doing the klonopin shuffle. but that all.

[Restharrow]

i cant STAND dxm, anyone else feel this way? like it is not enjoyable to me whatsoever..
I made the mistake of trying it thinking it would be similar to opiates -- it was a night spent trying to barf from the dizziness. Awful stuff.

If anything, it was DISeuphoric.

[resorcinol]

Hahah, that shit is funny. I *always* get the robo walk when I start feeling the effects. Its like Monty Python's Ministry of Funny Walks.... :D

Robowalk is amusing if you're alone or with people who know and don't care that you're high. It's horrible if you need to play sober though. It's IMPOSSIBLE ime to NOT robowalk if you're at a dose where it's happening, and trying tends to make things worse (ya look like a drunk stumbling about basically). The ridiculous pupil dilation and awkward facial expressions are also a dead giveaway. DXM is really one of the toughest drugs to act sober on. Classical psychedelics may be tougher (unless the DXM dose is fully dissociative, in which case I'd say they're equally problematic in this way).

[Citrus]

Come on boys; you're supposed to eat the whole box of Coricidin. Guzzle it down w/ a 4oz bottle of robotussin! *yuck*

Deemerz? Sounds like Deemsters, which is more commonly known as DMT.

[resorcinol]

BTW, DXM has only been full on dysphoric for me if I tried to mess with its metabolism (don't ... the natural dxm:dxo ratio is just right) or if I took it on SSRIs or bupropion (the latter was a friggin nightmare, the former somewhat risky). Otherwise, I mostly just find it boring now. Even hitting a third or fourth isn't as cool as it was, and first and second are boring as hell now. I do understand that some folks just flat out dislike the drug's effects though and find it dysphoric. YMMV.

[Ickyuck]

All this talk of "Robo Walk" made me LOL!
http://rudimike.com/newsletter/pic_silly_walk_01.jpghttp://images.stanzapub.com/readers/2009/03/11/img1992lg_1.jpg


Ministry of Silly Walks...

[InfectedMushroom]

I just LOL'd hard

[God_Albino]

dxm seems to be one of those drugs that most people hate, but people who like it really like it. it still remains my definition of the perfect drug, nothings come close to the euphoria, profound weirdness and calm that it used to give me all at once.

one bottle of max strength tussin was enough for the warm heavy buzz but allowed for some nice weirdness as well. treading between the 1st and 2nd perfectly, taking a bottle of the gels was always nothing followed by abrupt weirdness, no warm transition.

yeah i think about 300mg is a good warm dose, maybe a little less. find your right dose and take it all at once, not gradually or redosing later, that leads to more confusion, and a lot of times blackouts.

[Seedy]

^^ you're one lucky motherfucker! imagine being able to buy you're favourite drug OTC!... wait a minute, I guess most people can - alcohol - the only drug the average joe takes (and I don't count nicotine and caffeine).

[resorcinol]

^^ you're one lucky motherfucker! imagine being able to buy you're favourite drug OTC!... wait a minute, I guess most people can - alcohol - the only drug the average joe takes (and I don't count nicotine and caffeine).

Of course propylhexedrine is OTC also .... must not forget about OTC tweakage. It might only be in the US though; I think propylhexedrine is CIV in Canada and not available in Europe despite being legal. Or is it CV in canada? Can't remember for sure. Europe has cyclopentamine though, which is another nasal inhaler speed that is supposedly very similar to PHX ... I'd love to hear a trip report about it, but there are none afaik.

In most countries, codeine is OTC also (morphine in lowish concentration solutions is otc in some too! and benzos are otc in lots of places. I'm very jealous).

I do kinda wish the cough product makers were lazy and put racemic methorphan in their syrups. Levomethorphan sounds delicious and would constitute half of a racemic methorphan mixture, and would be much more active than the DXM as a drug potency wise such that the DXM would be inconsequential compared to the LVM half.

[doctor diesel]

I drank a whole bottle of this shit once, and passed out within ten minutes. Knew nothing till 15 hours later.
Waste of fucking money.

Doc