Fat man, trying to IV.

[hydrocronik]

I'm overweight, i'll admit it. I'm not obese, but there's definately more to love. Anyways, I have horrible veins, everytime I get my blood drawn for the doctor, they send me to labcorp, because they are the only ones who can seem to get my veins. I've shot up once, in my foot, because the veins on my feet seem to be the biggest ones on my body. I've waisted at least 3 shots of good H trying to shoot up, before completely giving up on iv'ing. Lately snorting hasn't been doing the job as well, and I really want to IV! I've only successfully iv'ed once, so I was wondering if anyone could give me any advice on how to IV and where I would be able to find the best possible veins, if that's possible. Thanks guys and gals, I truly appreciate you all.

[nick]

Man,I'm over weight and have terrible veins,but I still manage and so can you.You're best bet is probably the main line at the elbow.You may not see the vein.So,put a tie on pump your arm and feel till you feel something that feels like a cord.

If you really feel you need to see the vein,then I'd try your hands.


It goes without saying that shooting up will not bring you happiness.In fact it will eventually lead to misery,but you've caught me on a day when I have my own problems.So,you're on your own with yours.

[Citrus]

Yeah, use a belt/tourniquet. Pop it around your bicep and make it snug. After a few seconds, your viens should become more pronounced.

In all honesty, I would never know how to IV, if I didn't have my friend do it for me, the first 5 times. Then one day I was sick, by myself, and wanted it in my veins.. now. It took me like 15 stabs til I finally got it. I was so pissed basically screaming "GET THE FUCK IN MY ARM"

I don't think I would be able to do it, if I didnt watch my buddy do me up the first few times, he hates the fact that he did it too, he use to tell me, I should of never did that for you.

I get the belt around my arm( nowadays I dont even use one, if I'm in a hurry )
Insert rig and pull back a unit or two...
If you arent in your vein, a bubble will appear in the barrel of the rig
If the bubble appears, I move the rig out SLOWLY, but not all the way, and try to re-aim if you will, into the vein
You will know youre in the vein if when you move the rig back into your arm with the small bubble of air, and the rig fills with blood and the bubble disappears.

If not, youre not in the vein, if it starts to hurt, try somewhere else, or be carfeul...

I usually know I'm missing a shot (aka shooting heroin into my muscle tissue) if it BURNS as i push the plunger down. Its completely pain free if you don't have to stab around trying to find a vein.

[SHELLEY]

stretchy rubber band + really hot shower = the most hiddenest veins show themselves

[mart1n]

Yeah, hot showers really help the veins come to the surface. But really, you don't have to see the veins with your eyes. Just poke around your skin and look for the squishy feeling that bounces back really quickly...kinda like a noodle or something :).

The first time I shot up I was scared shitless. I had never seen or been around anyone else ever that shot up anything. I got a quick howto from the dude that sold me the dope on the streets and I read a guide that I found online and just booted myself in the common elbow spot. I wasn't sure if I was doing it right or wrong or if I cooked and filtered the tar properly, etc. But I got high and everything worked out. Since I had no friends that shot dope or even used opiates, I'm not sure what drove me to IV use. I went to the needle pretty quickly too...curiosity got the best of me I guess.


*EDIT* When I say "poke around your skin", I mean with your finger and not your needle. :)

[Deadfiend]

"I usually know I'm missing a shot (aka shooting heroin into my muscle tissue) if it BURNS as i push the plunger down. Its completely pain free if you don't have to stab around trying to find a vein."-Citrus

"stretchy rubber band + really hot shower = the most hiddenest veins show themselves"-SHELLEY

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[Oxydation]

I'm not overweight but I've always had difficulty finding a decent vein in the arm so on many occasion I have resorted to, as Nick previously mentioned, my hand. Works really nice but not so cool when you're trying to hide 'rope burns' or even the slightest hematoma. Obviously, you will most likely avoid leakage if you take your time and use the correct pins for the task at hand; no pun intended. Unfortunately, when I was out of some decent pins, I had to use an 18 gauge - deep tissue syringe from back in my Steroid days.

[squareone]

Sorry mcfatty fat fat, maybe try not eating as much. I jk, I use have boobs when I was younger, now I spend all my money on drugs instead. Oh yeah, I can't help you IV cause I have only tried once, but it looks like you got all the help you need.

[hydrocronik]

Sorry mcfatty fat fat, maybe try not eating as much. I jk, I use have boobs when I was younger, now I spend all my money on drugs instead. Oh yeah, I can't help you IV cause I have only tried once, but it looks like you got all the help you need.

Next time, don't reply then. Dicky Mcdickhead...

[taj]

Here's a good site, with all sorts of information. Hope it helps some.. here is their technique for safer IV injection, and also some vein location diagrams

http://www.saferinjecting.info/vcbrieftext.html#correct%20intravenous

another good site.. http://www.saferinjecting.net/safer-injecting-drugs.html

[squareone]

Next time, don't reply then. Dicky Mcdickhead...
I'm not being mean, I used to be overweight my self. I apologize if you were offended. I agree it was uncalled for, some times i just don't think.

[Citrus]

...Doesn't matter, I used to be fatter too. Doesn't mean I get the right to be a; how you say.... twat? :D

[squareone]

...Doesn't matter, I used to be fatter too. Doesn't mean I get the right to be a; how you say.... twat? :D
i agree, im a twat.

[havok]

Ya, I would say get a friend who is experienced with IV'ing to help you. Someone who is experienced should have no problem finding a vein on you. Once he finds a good place to hit, you should be able to take over and do it yourself.

[losangeleslifer]

Ya know what squareone, fuck you you little bastard. I grow tired of you you little fuck. I tolerate you because I know you are an opie at heart, but some times you irritate the fuck out of me. So do me a favor and shut the fuck up for a few.

[squareone]

Ya know what squareone, fuck you you little bastard. I grow tired of you you little fuck. I tolerate you because I know you are an opie at heart, but some times you irritate the fuck out of me. So do me a favor and shut the fuck up for a few.
I know, I don't know what else to do. I apologized twice.

[Citrus]

Ya know what squareone, fuck you you little bastard. I grow tired of you you little fuck. I tolerate you because I know you are an opie at heart, but some times you irritate the fuck out of me. So do me a favor and shut the fuck up for a few.



*PIMP-SLAPPED*


Boooooyah! :D LOL Sorry, just had too.

[losangeleslifer]

*PIMP-SLAPPED*



Boooooyah! :D LOL Sorry, just had too.

Naw, it ain't like that. I just want that youngster to pump his brakes every now an then.

[More Feen]

In the interest of "Harm Reduction" I ought just shut my fucking mouth (stop typing, anyway).

But, in the interest of helping someone intent on popping a vein, here are some tips:

1-When you hop out of the shower, stand in front of a full-length mirror, and check your body from head to toe for any "blue lines" /veins.

2-Squat: Feet flat on the floor, knees in your chest, in ~2 minutes, if there are any available veins on the top of your feet, they should become noticeable (the squatting acts like a belt/rope to help congest veins in your feet & ankles). You might be able to feel them, if you cannot see them. Use a torch (flashlight) shined at your feet from the side. This type of lighting can help visualize veins. Overhead lighting tends to remove shadows that can help you. Do NOT mistake a tendon, or ligament for a vein!

3-This solution sucks, but check your winkie for some veins. If its only half as gnarled and knotted as mine, you'll be fine.

Probably would be best for you (and everyone else) to find another route of administration.

M F

[nick]

In the interest of "Harm Reduction" I ought just shut my fucking mouth (stop typing, anyway).

But, in the interest of helping someone intent on popping a vein, here are some tips:

1-When you hop out of the shower, stand in front of a full-length mirror, and check your body from head to toe for any "blue lines" /veins.

2-Squat: Feet flat on the floor, knees in your chest, in ~2 minutes, if there are any available veins on the top of your feet, they should become noticeable (the squatting acts like a belt/rope to help congest veins in your feet & ankles). You might be able to feel them, if you cannot see them. Use a torch (flashlight) shined at your feet from the side. This type of lighting can help visualize veins. Overhead lighting tends to remove shadows that can help you. Do NOT mistake a tendon, or ligament for a vein!

3-This solution sucks, but check your winkie for some veins. If its only half as gnarled and knotted as mine, you'll be fine.

Probably would be best for you (and everyone else) to find another route of administration.

Um trust me if you're fat your feet are a real hassle.

[Chipper]

Nick, I never visualised you as overweight. It must be the "lifestyle" than creates the stereotypical H user look; under-nourished, under-funded, worn out by the daily hustle and on the sick<->high roller-coaster.

There's a lot to be said for Diamorph. maintenance. There should be more of it !

[duck]

Square-One....I thought it was funny and I like most of your posts, don't worry about LA Lifer, he's a noob anyways. :D

However, on Shooting Up Fat People: A buddy of mine I used to run around with was a real fatty, I mean, this guy was a serious beefcake. He really sucked at shooting himself up and would need his friends to do it....and, go figure, I found myself doing it for him. One of the key things I remember was to use the "industry standard" vein on the front of your elbow (if that makes sense) and keep a more than usual perpindicular angle between the syringe and your arm. Whereas with a normal person, the needle needs to be more parallel-sh with the arm/vein....with a fatty, you really gotta dig in their a little deeper. We ran into problems with shooting it between the vein and the skin/fat.

[I-Nod]

In the interest of "Harm Reduction" I ought just shut my fucking mouth (stop typing, anyway).

But, in the interest of helping someone intent on popping a vein, here are some tips:

1-When you hop out of the shower, stand in front of a full-length mirror, and check your body from head to toe for any "blue lines" /veins.

2-Squat: Feet flat on the floor, knees in your chest, in ~2 minutes, if there are any available veins on the top of your feet, they should become noticeable (the squatting acts like a belt/rope to help congest veins in your feet & ankles). You might be able to feel them, if you cannot see them. Use a torch (flashlight) shined at your feet from the side. This type of lighting can help visualize veins. Overhead lighting tends to remove shadows that can help you. Do NOT mistake a tendon, or ligament for a vein!

3-This solution sucks, but check your winkie for some veins. If its only half as gnarled and knotted as mine, you'll be fine.

Probably would be best for you (and everyone else) to find another route of administration.

M F

These are some good tips, never heard of "the squat"... but I'd stay away from the cock-shots personally. Just think what an abscess would do in that area :eek:.

There is NO vein to be found in the elbow of my left arm, so I learned how to shoot left handed right off the bat. That will come in handy, so don't be afraid to try. Also, if you tie off half way between your wrist and elbow, where you can feel the radius bone the easiest, your hand veins seem to bulge up nicely. Using the light-from-the-side trick helps with finding these hand veins also. I found pretty big veins going inbetween each knuckle by tying off there.

Good luck and keep EVERYTHING clean and use new rigs each and every time. (I used 31g 1/2" and I got a lil meat on my bones, 6' 210lbish.) Wish you the best, and that vaporizor is also a good option too.

[squareone]

Square-One....I thought it was funny and I like most of your posts, don't worry about LA Lifer, he's a noob anyways. :D

However, on Shooting Up Fat People: A buddy of mine I used to run around with was a real fatty, I mean, this guy was a serious beefcake. He really sucked at shooting himself up and would need his friends to do it....and, go figure, I found myself doing it for him. One of the key things I remember was to use the "industry standard" vein on the front of your elbow (if that makes sense) and keep a more than usual perpindicular angle between the syringe and your arm. Whereas with a normal person, the needle needs to be more parallel-sh with the arm/vein....with a fatty, you really gotta dig in their a little deeper. We ran into problems with shooting it between the vein and the skin/fat.
Good, I'm glad some one took it the right way...

[DreamSellerInc]

If the bubble appears, I move the rig out SLOWLY, but not all the way, and try to re-aim if you will, into the


No!!! do not fish around in your veins! I really hope im not the first one to say that

[More Feen]

I don't think I'd ever intentionally poke anything sharp into my manhood, but I've heard of people whose veins are so toasted that the only veins left are in that area.

It may be a similar case to the OP.

Again, it'd be best to use a better route of administration (oral, smoking, browning, etc...).

When I was in Asia, I saw people using the "squat method" and popping their foot veins. I thought it was interesting as they did not use any ligature to enhance their veinous profile. As soon as they finished injecting, they'd straighten out their legs, lay back with their legs elevated and let the blood carry the goodness to their brains.

I would worry about cleanliness and possibly carrying some athlete's foot fungus with the needle tip, but, again, to minimize all risks, one should avoid sharp pointy things altogether.

M F

[acey]

I don't think I'd ever intentionally poke anything sharp into my manhood, but I've heard of people whose veins are so toasted that the only veins left are in that area.

When I was in Asia, I saw people using the "squat method" and popping their foot veins. I thought it was interesting as they did not use any ligature to enhance their veinous profile. As soon as they finished injecting, they'd straighten out their legs, lay back with their legs elevated and let the blood carry the goodness to their brains.

M F

Wow, thats real interesting...I guess that sounds pretty quick and efficient along with any marks being easy to hide since they are on your feet! I might give that a shhh..try.;)

I think Fatman may need a Robin to assist him, and try the squat method...Sounds like a few fat people have been successfull here. Are you like extremely obese, like morbidly obese? Or are you just an extremely overweight person who plays video games n gets high, oops I mean, cure migraines with HEROIN?

I hope you don't take me calling you one heck of a FAT man...Because I don't get offended to being called one heck of a SKINNY mofo. I havent heard underweight ever by a commoner, but thats because I have muscle but just am extremely lean, and tall, so I am skinny and tall for my weight class.

Sorry kinda rammbled at the end.

[dugwylor]

For the penis, here's the quote from saferinjecting:


Injecting in the penis is sometimes attempted when other possible sites are no longer available.

The penis is dangerous for injection, and complications such as local infections are almost inevitable.

A condition known as priapism - a permanent, painful erection - is a possible consequence of penis injecting. This is because an erection is caused by the veins becoming smaller and restricting the flow of blood out of the penis. For the penis to return to its normal size the veins must be able to re-open. If this is not possible because of damage, the erection will not subside.

Some injectors mistakenly think that ‘groin’ injecting refers to injecting in the penis. When talking about groin injecting it is vital to clarify that you are referring to femoral injecting.
Guess the follow up to that is, unless you're looking for permanent Viagra, go for the femoral vein rather than jabbing into the penis. Though femoral's still listed as one of the more dangerous sites.

They mention problems with injecting into the feet being: blood flow's slow -- if you get an infection you may not be able to walk; any injury will heal slowly; fungal infections on the feet can get inside the body; and wearing shoes & socks can create problems... still, if someone were hypothetically going to try to inject hydromorphone once and didn't want to show anything, would the feet be the way to go?

[nhop]

I destroyed all my obvious veins years ago, and was having a real hard time iving until someone showed me how to find the femoral vein. Since i have learned this technique, I have never had an easier time IVing since I started, as I always fix in the same place. This site can be dangerous, as this vein is right next to the femoral artery, which u def. dont want to hit. I have a few times by accident, and it was a very painful experience. Find someone who can show u how. You will most likely need to use a longer needle, I use a 22 or 25 gauge inch& a half.

Be careful & good luck...

[Swellin]

Ive ived about 4 times so im no expert but im in a situation like yours, im not fat but since ive been a child the ER docs have had terrible times trying to find my veins once when i broke my arm (for the 5th time ) the nurse tried for 15min to find a vein, i was about 13 and i was balling my eyes out because this nurse had stuck me about 20 fn times! Now adays because i know they have trouble finding my veins i tell them to always use my hand, and because im in and out of the ER monthly for a pain problem the nurses know me now adays and always use my left hand. So my point is try your hand! After watching them do it about 20 times i went home and tried it my self haha and i nailed it, tie up pump fist and look at your hand trust me you will see it. BTW Dont keep iving my friend it sucks, it feels fucking great but your meds will only last like 3 hours if your lucky, i stopped because i dont like the idea of having to stick my self every 3 hours to stay well, where as if i take my shit orally im good for 24hours and only need to dose once a day, i still plan on iving every now and again because of that dope ass rush GL.

[Bluemagician]

I'm actually pretty underweight (150lbs) but my most of my veins seem pretty hidden. I found that after a hot shower, with a tight belt wrapped around my bicep, I would notice small "shadows" in the crook of my arm. I usually have to concentrate, and poke my arm (with my finger) to be sure where to IV. After a few not-so great tries, I have it down pat, even though at best those veins show up as shadowy, elusive targets. I've found that the large vein running down the top of my hand/wrist is also an easy target, although it can get tricky getting it not to roll around.

Just be careful, I only IV maybe twice a week, but I've noticed those juicy easy to hit veins in my elbow crook are slowly fading. Also be very wary of hitting an artery, my inside (closest to my body) crook vein runs dangerously close to an artery. I accidently hit it when I was first starting out, and it scared the hell out of me.. I got extremely hot, my whole right arm went completely numb, and I could feel my heart racing, only it was pulsating inside my head. If you see that powerful gush of bright red blood, abort at all cost.

[Swellin]

Yea i never even attempted to shoot up before because i was so afraid of hitting an artery and ending it all right there. The reason i did tho was because after watching the nurses use the same vein over and over again i could be 100% sure that this was an ok vein to hit at home, and boy was it i am craving a lil iv action rite now wish i had a point.

[through_hate]

"I usually know I'm missing a shot (aka shooting heroin into my muscle tissue) if it BURNS as i push the plunger down. Its completely pain free if you don't have to stab around trying to find a vein."-Citrus

"stretchy rubber band + really hot shower = the most hiddenest veins show themselves"-SHELLEY

this some good info to help you right here.^

When you see the red rose bub in the syringe it will be one of the best thing things you thing your every see if you life the first time in your life, but that red flower might be the death of you, remember that, on and you might have 15 mark's on you from trying the first time, but we all go thought that at some time.

If that don't work try chasing the dragon the new school way, tar or power don't matter but you will need a vaporizer it is used for commonly, But I have only heard Great things, and I mean great things about its use with H. Ya it will be a few buck to put down to get one but in your case it very well be needed. I have heard really good thing about it this way.

Hope I help a little.....http://www.vaporizerdeals.com/

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never heard of vaping h. strange but not suprising. ill have to try that IF I CAN FUCKING SCORE!!!!