Opiates and musical talent.

[hydrocronik]

I doubt this is true and it could all be in my head, but for those of you that play an instrument or can sing, do you feel like opiates make you a more talented musician? lol. I can play guitar, sing, and am currently learning piano. Everytime I do heroin, I just feel like i'm a better singer. Like when i'm singing, I don't over think things. Where as when i'm not high, I make things harder than they really are, and my music comes out sounding very self counscious. When i'm high, it just comes so naturally, and everything comes out sounding perfect. lol. What do you guys think?

[duck]

starts by helping ends up hurting....unless you blow your head off before it starts hurting

[Mustelid]

Not good for creativity in my opinion as a musician. Pot = good, dope = bad.

[lotus]

drugs making art good is all bullshit. the *experience* can give you cause or reason to create, but if it's not there to begin with, drugs aren't going to do shit :(.

i think creative people have low latient inhibition (please, PLEASE do not bring up the bullshit from prison break) to varying degrees - the ability to filter out useless information either doesn't work so well, or doesn't work at all. everybody has it to some degree - stupid people have extremely high latient inhibition.....they can block the whole of life out.

it plays into everything from how you learn to what you remember. it's that useless info that gives the ability to see things other people don't, in ways other people don't, being able to make the most obscure connections between things that on surface don't seem related but they are.................which also creates a fine line between totally fuckin crazy and not.

i paint - the last 5 or 6 years of using, you couldn't pay me to put oil on canvas, or play guitar.....i'd write a little but it was all just useless repetitive whining. book after book after book of it....tho the books were fill'd with more soot, blood, candle wax, spill'd dope and melted colour'd pill coatings than anything.

the fist while of using, i *thought* it help'd....can't really say now as nothing existes from that time.

i'd love to know how many people became heroin addicts because of keith richards~

[OxyBlowBall2]

at first i was like, yeah i'm making awesome music now! after a while i didnt want to play guitar anymore and when i did my recordings i did came out aweful lol.

[clinton]

i think as one plays opiated they are less critical of their playing, hell theyre less critical of everything.....

[pain-pateint]

I am just learning the six string and I find it helps when I am just practicing chords and chord patterns, but when it comes to actually playing, it doesn't help or makes things worse, esp. if I am trying to play with anybody else.

[okie dokie]

my buddy sick, the old fiddle player for asylum street spankers told me
"you need to write music on shrooms or acid, record music on cocaine, and play live shows on speed"
seems logical

[hydrocronik]

I agree with Clinton. I just really enjoy playing music while opiated. lol. I don't think it makes me any better at guitar, I just enjoy playing it more. The singing though, has definately improved thanks to opiates. Say what you want, but I can hear the difference and so can others. It's there. I record, so I know what I sound like and what I used to sound like. I still love music and creating it with or without opiates, but it definately changes your sound. Some for better, some for worse, I guess.

[lotus]

I agree with Clinton. I just really enjoy playing music while opiated. lol. I don't think it makes me any better at guitar, I just enjoy playing it more. The singing though, has definately improved thanks to opiates. Say what you want, but I can hear the difference and so can others. It's there. I record, so I know what I sound like and what I used to sound like. I still love music and creating it with or without opiates, but it definately changes your sound. Some for better, some for worse, I guess.

the voice - good call.....i've wonder'd about this since i first started.

whenever i was all fucked up, my voice got all soft, more faint? like i had to strain to talk, but i wasn't straining. not from "talking quietly", or "being tired", and i never slur'd my words........it actually changed....i could even hear it.....and there was nothing i could do to stop it from happening or make it go away. it was a bigger indicator that i was high more than anything i think.

this would also happen in like 2/3's of the people i knew who used.

i've never found a reasonable answer to why....

[Seedy]

^^ i think being opiated loosens the vocal chords - so i've heard.

[Motown]

Actually when opiated, I am a lot more confident, fluid, and quick with my playing. I
sing more confidently.

However, it does rob my motivation for creativity. And I suck in w/d's.
Withdraw makes me twice as bad - so I would rather have the steady flow of creativity
than the peaks of up and down.

Double edged sword.....

I have finally gotten back to base with burnin' ganj. Smoking helps me to slow down and
be patient with the groove. So glad to be able to burn and play again. For years I couldn't.

[Motown]

Sorry.... Double Post

[lespaulpower]

I doubt this is true and it could all be in my head, but for those of you that play an instrument or can sing, do you feel like opiates make you a more talented musician? lol. I can play guitar, sing, and am currently learning piano. Everytime I do heroin, I just feel like i'm a better singer. Like when i'm singing, I don't over think things. Where as when i'm not high, I make things harder than they really are, and my music comes out sounding very self counscious. When i'm high, it just comes so naturally, and everything comes out sounding perfect. lol. What do you guys think?

Yes, I know exactly what your saying.

100 % agreed

[hydrocronik]

bump.

[OxyBlowBall2]

i def agree when im high i think i sing a hell of a lot better. i just think when i get too high my timing on guitar and piano are can def be off and but i do feel more confident in my playing/singing when i used to play shows in my old band at the right dosage.

[mikey5string]

i feel like im more technically proficient on a decent dose of oxy. i cant focus enough to actually get anything accomplished though, just noodling around and improvising.

[The_Highwayman]

I remember in Hammer Of The Gods, they wrote that musicians love heroin...it makes them secure, and that is very trie, when on H I found that everything I did was just magic, there wasn't a thing wrong with naything I did, however, for me it robbed me of my motivaton and I wouldn;t even wwant to play anything...

[The_Highwayman]

I was high at a contest once, tripped over a monitor at the front of the stage, and fell off the stage, good thing it was on a beach so the fall wasn't too bad....

[Motown]

i feel like im more technically proficient on a decent dose of oxy. i cant focus enough to actually get anything accomplished though, just noodling around and improvising.


there we go... well said

[oxymoron530]

I find that when I play my guitar high, I can "feel" it more. And I can sit around for hours and play. But, it's usually just noodling. I have to really motivate myself to write. I will say that opiates help me find more unusual chords and patterns, though. And usually I'll have 2 or three really solid riffs by the end of the day. So it's cool that way. As for singing, I haven't tried it. Maybe that's the key to my shitty singing voice.