early morning w/d's..

[hydro chris]

how do you guys fell it..does it wake you strait up? sleep pattern? dreams?
sometimes i feel like setting the alarm for 3am just to dose. i get up a six.. have to get well before i get to work at 7.
id say right around 4am i start w/d just by the crazy ass dreams and sleep mode.
first thing i do is take 20 mg hydro,and strait up the nose with an oxymorph,ER and by the time i hit the shower grab my coffee im good, for a bit.

[ka11ink]

I always hated managing to sleep untli like 9am bc when id wake up the wd symptoms would hit me like a mack truck and it would seem to take extra to get back to just normal.

[hydro chris]

yea no dought.. sometimes the second i wake up i feel alright.. than bam.lol

[Madam Oxy]

I have to do the same thing as you if I want to get out of bed at a reasonable time. He brings me 4 codone's and I go back to sleep for an hour or so and then wake up brite-eyed and ready to take on the world...or at least my small part of it.:o (do I have enough 'ands' in that sentence? damn)

Lots of weird stuff when I'm in dreamland. I wake myself up talking, I wake the hubs up talking, and there have been times where I'm in a dream-like-state and actually look for the person I'm talking to while asleep, but when I can't find the person I'm talking to (in my dream) I wake up. The hubs told me it was because of the pills, but I didn't really believe him. I guess I have to now, huh?! :rolleyes:

[stringbeanjeans]

I sooooo hate early morning WD's. I don't always get them however. It depends on how short acting of an opiate I used. I used to take a bit of Ms Contin at night just cause it helped me make it through the day without a morning dose or the sickness. Pods of course help keep away that shit too.

Does anyone else think that morning dose is the strongest though? Maybe it just feels the best. Once I have that shit in me, the morning is a beautiful time.... It doesn't matter how tired I am. I feel great.

I never wake up in the middle of the night and dose. Seems like a complete waste to me.


Does anyone else find that you're really sick for like the first hour after you wake up and they you feel better even though you haven't dosed?

[lotus]

i used to wake up at 4 or 5ish - didn't matter how much i did before bed - i'd rip out of sleep with no warning, wide awake, unable to understand what was happening, just aware of the horrible dope sick taste in my mouth/sinuses, unable to breathe instead panting, freezing cold with the slightest bit of warm air trap'd under wet sheets, with everything looking so fucking hard and cold - as much as it hurt i'd scramble to the bathroom with my shit that i could not cook up fast enough......do the ritual of trying to force veins to come out of hiding (times it was so impossible i'd actually do jumping jacks) then stab away, peace, crawl back into bed until either the alarm went off, or i woke up in the same manner all over again.

i cannot tell you how good it feels to wake up tired....one thing i do believe i will never take for granted the rest of this life.

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

I always make sure I crush a 120 milligram avinza`the night before that way I can do it right away when I wake up.I eat it and then chew a few of those super sour gummy night crawler things.
I have cut down to crushing and eating .sometimes I wet my finger and dip it in the Mortar and Pestal three times before its done and I get up.
I never withdraw and I have cut down alot from when I was booting.I do have lots of crazy dreams.Alot about losing my drugd which I started a post about a couple years ago.Thats how strange and often I had them.
I thing the thread is called Drug Dreams (not sure though,I know it came out as a pretty good thread w/lots of good posts.

[hydro chris]

I always make sure I crush a 120 milligram avinza`the night before that way I can do it right away when I wake up.I eat it and then chew a few of those super sour gummy night crawler things.
I have cut down to crushing and eating .sometimes I wet my finger and dip it in the Mortar and Pestal three times before its done and I get up.
I never withdraw and I have cut down alot from when I was booting.I do have lots of crazy dreams.Alot about losing my drugd which I started a post about a couple years ago.Thats how strange and often I had them.
I thing the thread is called Drug Dreams (not sure though,I know it came out as a pretty good thread w/lots of good posts.cool ill have to check it out..ill take a look.

[Ickyuck]

I get terrible nightmares.

The night before last, I dreampt I had gotten a zombie virus. It took all of my waking day to shake out of it.:(:mad:

PS: Back to the point: the first night of WD's i wake up late, around 1 PM. Thereafter I wake up whenever my cat wakes me up, which is about 4 AM. This goes on each night until a day after my first dose of whatever.

[Duckfeet]

It all sucks: daytime, nightime, even dreams aren't exempt: unpleasant, heavy sexual crap, and in my "subconcious" or "whatever" I always know I'm kicking...I think that's why in old days, I'd just drink myself to sleep, but then of course, I'd just wake-up hungover *and* kicking...and always *always* that is when I'd finally say what I always say: *Fuck* ... *This*... and go get some dope, which is all my poor bod was trying to get me to do in the first place...

No escape possible...imho...

[Shadowsblaze]

I wake up sneezing so hard and so many times I will see stars. I am a little cold but I take a morphine ER before bed and my symptoms are few. If I forget to take it I will awaken at 3 or 4 and take it then.
I usually have my roxi sprayer handy and after about a dozen sprays I'm wakeing up comfortably.
The sneezing is rough since I snort a roxi right away and have dusted a few. But after the first I'm OK.

[taj]

I always make sure I crush a 120 milligram avinza`the night before that way I can do it right away when I wake up.I eat it and then chew a few of those super sour gummy night crawler things.
I have cut down to crushing and eating .sometimes I wet my finger and dip it in the Mortar and Pestal three times before its done and I get up.
.

ha ha, i do the crush wet finger dip thing with my avinza too every once in a while(I used to do it a lot more) I feel like I can make a whole pill last longer that way sometimes. A little dip here and there throughout the day.

[digby]

I wake up every morning feeling like I was mugged by a mob and thinking I need to get off this stuff cause it just ain't worth it. And it seems to be happening earlier and earlier each month that it goes on. Then I crawl out of bed hardly able to focus on anything and after moving around for a bit start to feel a whole lot better. After taking a handful of vitamins and a dose of oxy, in a short while I'm feeling wide awake, mellow and ready to roll. The rest of the day is all good, until I wake up the next morning and vow to swear of opiates....and it starts all over again.

[superman]

It all sucks: daytime, nightime, even dreams aren't exempt: unpleasant, heavy sexual crap, and in my "subconcious" or "whatever" I always know I'm kicking...I think that's why in old days, I'd just drink myself to sleep, but then of course, I'd just wake-up hungover *and* kicking...and always *always* that is when I'd finally say what I always say: *Fuck* ... *This*... and go get some dope, which is all my poor bod was trying to get me to do in the first place...
No escape possible...imho...


hahaha, same here... WD+hangover=way too much!


Banging dillies tends to wake me up a few hours early for a big shot.. always fall into a rythm that makes me wake feeling ok

[clonaze-whammed]

how do you guys fell it..does it wake you strait up? sleep pattern? dreams?
sometimes i feel like setting the alarm for 3am just to dose. i get up a six.. have to get well before i get to work at 7.
id say right around 4am i start w/d just by the crazy ass dreams and sleep mode.
first thing i do is take 20 mg hydro,and strait up the nose with an oxymorph,ER and by the time i hit the shower grab my coffee im good, for a bit.

I always wake up with a monster hard-on if im in wd's - its really weird, what could possibly be arousing when you're in that much pain and feel like shit? I dont get it.

its actually known as 'priapism' and is an adverse affect of opioid withdrawal

[alowishus]

Dude it's called morning wood.
All those opi's you been taken as also taken you libido, now it's back......that's it.
It aint no "condition". :p:p

How long you had hair on your pecker? :D

[hydro chris]

^^lmao:D

[Papa Verine]

I usually use long-acting opiates, so I never just wake up sick. Last night I went to bed almost 48 hours after my last dose, and I had dreams I was hanging around with a bunch of killers. They weren't killing me this time, there was just a bunch of gruesome shit going on, and it was disturbing to say the least. I actually sleep MORE when I'm first getting sick, because I get manic while I'm high, and I "crash" after a few days. I woke up sick today, but I went to bed sick, so no suprise there...

I'm working on that at the moment. I have the lowest tolerance I've had in a long time, so even being "sick" for me isn't so bad now. I'm really, really enjoying it. I found myself thinking about how sick I WASN'T today, instead of how sick I was, and making it even worse. I think I'm actually at the point where I can go opiate-free without too much pain and suffering. The tea I have today is very weak, so my tolerance isn't going to take much of a hit. It's nice, like there's some weight off my shoulders.

[clonaze-whammed]

Dude it's called morning wood.
All those opi's you been taken as also taken you libido, now it's back......that's it.
It aint no "condition". :p:p

How long you had hair on your pecker? :D


Smartass! :mad:

its not just a morning thing - in WDs its a persitent raging hard-on thoughout the 3 days when feeling like death and not even thinking about remotely arousing.
Again, its a condition known as priapism

[Uncle Wiggly]

Priapism is an erection lasting four hours or longer. You're just experiencing, as alow so eloquently put it, morning wood. Believe me if you ever experience real Priapism you'll beg to go to the ER.

[clonaze-whammed]

Priapism is an erection lasting four hours or longer. You're just experiencing, as alow so eloquently put it, morning wood. Believe me if you ever experience real Priapism you'll beg to go to the ER.


well then apart from being in opie WDs, a decade of heavy drinking/smoking/benzos/opies have made morning wood a distant memory, im 28 alow !

there must be some reason why people get super horny in WDs, more testosterone being produced or something - hell just look at the amount of threads from Raz lately in the sick and twisted minds.

[Madam Oxy]

Priapism is an erection lasting four hours or longer. You're just experiencing, as alow so eloquently put it, morning wood. Believe me if you ever experience real Priapism you'll beg to go to the ER.


I wish I could experience a Priapism! man, I'll beg to go anywhere, even the ER if i could get me a Priapism.




icrackmeup!!! this is a joke, this is only a joke...anyone thinking they should vm me to help me experience this is crazier than I. this is only a joke :D

[BlueMajick]

My morning W/D's seem to depend on the amount I take the night before, and how soon before bed the night before I consume the opi. It's been my experience that If I take my opi within about 2 hours of going to sleep, and if I'm feeling pretty good/fall asleep quick, i'll sleep through the night and wake up late/not wake up easily on my own/need an alarm (blaring for 20+ minutes before I hear it... hate for there to be a fire). If it's more like 4 or more hours before I get in bed, then there's a good chance I might wake up abruptly feeling unpleasant. If this happens, the major symptom is usually a tight feeling in my chest, like bricks are on it, and all I can take is short shallow breaths. I'm not cold though usually until I actually climb out from under the covers, which is usually quite an impressive feat in willpower. If not for the reward of actually getting up, I don't think I could easily get myself out of bed.

If I had a lot the night before, and got in bed feeling great, I'll usually wake up with only a very low energy/drowsy feeling. It still takes a lot of strength to get up, but none of the other symptoms, and still not chilled. The chill usually hit within a few minutes though, even if I am still mildly opiated... sleep seems to reset things for me.

Cereal and coffee are a pretty important part of my morning routine. When I wake I'll often try to get some cereal and coffee first and take a bite and a sip before I prepare my morning fix, even if I'm not feeling well. Sometimes though, either I'm just in a mood to feel great before I do ANYTHING. If i do this, i usually don't make it out of the bedroom to get cereal for another hour or so as i wait for everything to kick in, and then forget about eating.

The morning 'fix' is always my favorite, an idea I think a lot of you also concur with. I think this is because It's usually the time of the day that I've gone the longest period of time since my last fix... usually around 7-8 hours. This is why sometimes in the morning, even if I'm feeling like crap, and chilled to the bone, I will still wait a little bit to fix because I want to feel the greatest change in state of mind and body.

I'm so tired when I wake up, but ready to go and be active motivated for the day within 20 minutes of fixing.

[Suboxstitute]

I wish I could experience a Priapism! man, I'll beg to go anywhere, even the ER if i could get me a Priapism.

icrackmeup!!! this is a joke, this is only a joke...anyone thinking they should vm me to help me experience this is crazier than I. this is only a joke :D


Glad it's a joke. This is what can happen in certain cases with viagra (not that my hubby needs it - this is true story though....) My brother told me.....He is an ER doc.

Once, they brought a guy in with priapism from Viagra (he had a pre-existing heart condition, and you are NOT supposed to use Viagra then - he had a massive hard-on for 10 hours. He was hurtin' as hell. Embarrassing? Yes - he was the chief of surgery at the same hospital. How confidential do you think HIS "illness" was?

"Paging Dr. Woody" "Paging Dr. Woody Pecker" "Paging Dr. Hardon". HA HA HA.... I used to work in a hospital, we handled the night switchboard and paging.....and we'd always make strange pages thru-out the hospital in the middle of the night, and we'd always claim another hospital was trying to locate the guy. Dr. Dick Hardon was our favorite and lots of folks never even got the joke.

[Duckfeet]

Yeah, the V.A. nut wards used to--and still do--give out trazadone like candy, and they always warned us about priapism, and usually there would be like one nutcase chick and all of us hopeful boy crazies...but nothing ever happened: all I ever got out of trazadone was a good nights sleep...priapism to me is like....well, fuck, I don't know *what* it's like: I've never got it haha...

But that early morning thing, that's just cuz our nerves are all just raw, man, and yeah you get hardons and premature ejaculation and diarreah, and snotty nose, and yawning and sweats...and...and...and it all sucks....hell, I've layed there w/my old lady w/one of those hardons when kicking and it wasn't even worth the trouble...fuck...gross...everything sucks and is painful, no matter how it's dressed up, if you're in full blown w/drawals...

[duck]

It all sucks: daytime, nightime, even dreams aren't exempt: unpleasant, heavy sexual crap, and in my "subconcious" or "whatever" I always know I'm kicking...I think that's why in old days, I'd just drink myself to sleep, but then of course, I'd just wake-up hungover *and* kicking...and always *always* that is when I'd finally say what I always say: *Fuck* ... *This*... and go get some dope, which is all my poor bod was trying to get me to do in the first place...

No escape possible...imho...

that about sums up the past 3 years of my life perfectly....

I've now come to accept that my drug problem was a management problem and that not feeding this monkey only makes the monkey far more irritable.

[Raz]

I wish I could experience a Priapism! man, I'll beg to go anywhere, even the ER if i could get me a Priapism.




icrackmeup!!! this is a joke, this is only a joke...anyone thinking they should vm me to help me experience this is crazier than I. this is only a joke :D


ya want ma number:D

Man wen i was workin in london and i had a guy workin for me who lived at da back of me,like our gardens joined...Well every fuckin night smashed outta ma head i'd say "tomorrow i;m gonna start ma detox"...And i'd never leave any material at ma house, wiv all da best intentions in da world...Like "right dats it, no more fuckin chasin".....

Come 7am i was fuckin hopin over garden fences, fuckin wakin him up bangin down his back door..."Hey man, giv me a g or sumfin"...."Raz your a fucker joker man, why dont ya just keep ya own shit"?....

I guess i was kiddin maself a lot...Eventually he just started leavin notes on his door sayin "normal place" and he;d leave sumfin under ma trash can.....I fuckin drove dat geezer mad man, he just couldnt understand why i went to bed every night sayin "No more"...Wen he would have his fuckin gear all on da foil under his bed so he could chase as soon as he woke up....And it was swim supplyin him...:o..

Fuck knows wat dat says about me!!

[Chipper]

Fuck knows wat dat says about me!!

I think it means that you're an eternal optimist ... "normal place" ahahaha .. he was a funny guy to leave that note.