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Hades
06-04-2009, 01:10 AM
hopefully this is not a repost. its pretty interesting reading what some of these Dr.s got busted for, as well as what their sentences are/were...


http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/crim_admin_actions/crim_actions_mr.htm

clinton
06-04-2009, 02:16 AM
im suRe some aRe legit but some aRe docs simply pRescRibing pain meds to pain patients..

how the fuck does the dea know what is best foR a patient in pain?

why and when did this become the deas agenda?

when is the line cRossed in the deas eyes?

why aRe they so damn afRaid of legitimate docs pRescRibing meds to legitimate patients?

blo0mz
06-04-2009, 02:48 AM
The link is not working for me.

Hades
06-04-2009, 05:29 AM
The link is not working for me.


i just checked it, works for me :confused:

nick
06-04-2009, 06:09 AM
i just checked it, works for me :confused:

Works fine for me too.

It's an interesting find,but I'd like more information.

Restharrow
06-04-2009, 09:51 AM
Works fine for me too.

It's an interesting find,but I'd like more information.
For the more information version try this link and click "Registrant Actions". It gives the official ruling from the Federal Judge. http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/index.html

nick
06-04-2009, 10:13 AM
For the more information version try this link and click "Registrant Actions". It gives the official ruling from the Federal Judge. http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/fed_regs/index.html

Much better,thanks Will.

Bateman54199
06-04-2009, 10:16 AM
This post is awesome. I found a doc I used to see that is from my town on here, who one day disappeared and as a patient I got an automated call saying "DR. ______ is no longer seeing patients, please find a new doctor, we can not release medical records at this time"

well, that was a bitch, because 1. i had no records and 2. all the other docs in the area wouldn't see you if you were a former patient of that doctor because they assumed you were a DEA Narc. CRAZY!

--Another doc from my area is considered a fugitive, that's pretty cool too.

HandMeSomeOpiates
06-04-2009, 10:28 AM
Jorge A. Martinez, MD, age 56, of Boardman, OH, was found guilty by a federal jury on two counts of healthcare fraud resulting in death; twenty-one additional counts of healthcare fraud; ten counts of wire fraud; fifteen counts of mail fraud; and eight counts of distribution of controlled substances. According to court documents, from 1998 to September 2004, Martinez submitted false bills to insurance plans for injections and office visits. The jury found that the defendant’s health care fraud scheme resulted in the deaths of two insurance beneficiaries. The jury also found the defendant guilty of drug trafficking in OxyContin (oxycodone), a Schedule II controlled substance.
Martinez was sentenced to life in federal prison :eek:and ordered to pay an assessment of $5,600. Martinez has filed an appeal which is pending.

FUCK THE DEA!!!!!

ryan
06-04-2009, 10:39 AM
Lawrence (Larry) M. Friedes, MD, age 47, of St. Augustine, FL, pled guilty in the Seventh Judicial Circuit Court, St. Johns County, FL, to two counts of trafficking in hydrocodone (28 grams or more) and one count of writing a prescription for monetary benefit. According to court documents, Friedes knowingly and unlawfully sold an amount of hydrocodone consistent with trafficking to a confidential informant. The transaction was conducted in Friedes’ residence.

Friedes was sentenced to a term of ten years imprisonment followed by a period of ten years on probation / community control under the supervision of the Florida Department of Corrections. Friedes was also ordered to pay mandatory and discretionary costs of $6,473.


20 years for hydrocodone? Unbelievable!!
Isn't hydrocodone OTC in some countries?
LOL!

The Paregoric Man
06-05-2009, 07:00 PM
20 years for hydrocodone? Unbelievable!!
Isn't hydrocodone OTC in some countries?
LOL!

No hydrocodone here but we do have OTC schedule 1 drug(pholcodine LOL).

Suboxstitute
06-05-2009, 07:29 PM
Ironic/funny.

I recognize a pharmacy that a friend used, and several doctors . . . from the heyday of the on line pharm business when one could have a "consult" over the phone with the "doctor" (maybe - could have been anyone) and the next day, you'd have #120 hydrocodone 10/325s delivered to your door by FedEx and ups.

In the years prior to this, and then also through roughly the summer of 2007...... it was quite easy: I know friends who had multiple files with multiple pharmacies. Trouble was, some of the pharms served more than one doctor, so they could match things up and it was BUSTED for you. So my friend would on to the next one on the list.

Some of them MAY still be running under a "direct script model (which the DEA know ALL ABOUT no worries that I'm divulging state secrets here, Try living in the Midwest and getting a paper (or faxed) script (for a charge of $300-350 total, thank you very much) and trying to get one of those scripts FILLED locally.

"Yes sir, Mr. Pharmacist. I sprained my ankle on vacation in Florida, and I was scripted these few 120 10/325 strength hydrocodone". The script would likely be confiscated, or defaced and handed back(so a person couldn't try again) the "pharmacy" or "doctor" would reissue until the 'patient' found ANYWHERE willing to fill it.

Time have changed for domestic, online pharms (or pill mills as the DEA would refer to them).

Of course I myself NEVER would have participated in anything like this.

All over now for the most part. And now they are "coming to justice" (some sarcasm there; for some of these doctors, they WERE trying to help people and the gov't interfered in the practice of legit medicine)

Never could be sure if some docs really believed in the cause (of chronic pain under-treatment by legit patients), or whether it was just a fast buck. I wouldn't have risked it if I were them but money talks - LOUDLY.

Sue

Opiofiend
06-11-2009, 12:24 PM
I actually went to one doc on this list like a year before he got busted. He didn't give me shit and I have legit pain. He actually preached against opies and here he was selling scripts on the street. I can understand the motivation of a doc with a problem coin shady stuff to feed a habit but not just to make money. I mean all that work and schooling thrown away just for a couple extra thousand bucks. Like the $200k year from just being a doc isn't enough. Greed and stupidity if u ask me.

JunkYardSaint
09-04-2009, 06:05 PM
It shouldn't be tolerated - it's insanity - Doctors and patients going to jail for treatment of any kind is absolutely wrong ...who in the hell declares war on her own citizens? The home of the brave and the land of the free? Pffft - it makes me angry as hell - the banks and insurance companies can run rough shod over the poor with high fines and fees and denying treatment based on cost but otherwise law abiding citizens get thrown in crowded prisons for nothing. This country is fucking insane

OpiXPO
09-04-2009, 07:51 PM
20 years for hydrocodone? Unbelievable!!
Isn't hydrocodone OTC in some countries?
LOL!

Used to be you could get life sentences for possesion of pot, mostly in the southern states.

JonnyMohawk
09-04-2009, 07:56 PM
I don't think this is awesome at all.

Its fucked up and sad that we are prosecuting doctors for giving medication that will only makes someones life a little more enjoyable.


Not only that but things like this scare the compassionate doctors away, leaving the only ones to be uncaring and cruel.

The DEA should not be able to control doctors prescribing methods.... I mean if someone dies due to a stupid doctor, then I suppose I can see taking them to court, but anything short of that I want the government out of...

Natas666
09-04-2009, 08:37 PM
It shouldn't be tolerated - it's insanity - Doctors and patients going to jail for treatment of any kind is absolutely wrong ...who in the hell declares war on her own citizens? The home of the brave and the land of the free? Pffft - it makes me angry as hell - the banks and insurance companies can run rough shod over the poor with high fines and fees and denying treatment based on cost but otherwise law abiding citizens get thrown in crowded prisons for nothing. This country is fucking insane

Truly insane and you know what happens when the boiling point hits??? History has told us that sad tale as well.These med's help me/ along with many many others and each day is like walking on egg shells just for the little bit of relief offered(in my case), IF YOUR ARE LUCKY.

nodrover
09-05-2009, 09:14 AM
im suRe some aRe legit but some aRe docs simply pRescRibing pain meds to pain patients..

how the fuck does the dea know what is best foR a patient in pain?

why and when did this become the deas agenda?

when is the line cRossed in the deas eyes?

why aRe they so damn afRaid of legitimate docs pRescRibing meds to legitimate patients?
Clinton, I am just curious as to why you upper cased all your r's in this post. Is it part of your signature, or do the upper case R's relate to the post in some way or another? ......I'm not normally this nosey, it just caught my eye and now I'm interested.....:confused:

Reveller
09-09-2009, 06:47 AM
I can't begin to say how angry (and really sad) it makes me that we've allowed our country to get to this point... but that is a tirade for another day, as its surely neither news to anyone here, and I know its a shared sentiment. It must be even more harsh on those of you who are CP patients and not merely recreational users of opiates such as myself.

In line with this thread, let me share with you all the site of a huge advocate of harm reduction and EFFECTIVE pain managment:

doctordeluca.com (http://doctordeluca.com/)

Here's info from his bio:


Alexander DeLuca, M.D., MPH
From 1990, he was medical director at the Smithers Addiction Treatment and Research Center, and was chief there 1998-2000. After being fired from Smithers in a 'moderation vs. abstinence' media firestorm, DeLuca did private practice in psychopharmacology, opioid pain management, and treatment of substance use disorders. In 2008, Dr. DeLuca joined Krele Pharmaceuticals, Inc. as Chief Medical Officer. Krele is a specialty pharmaceutical company targeting large and underserved medical markets, including developing treatments for muscle spasm, sleep disorders, fibromyalgia, generalized anxiety disorder, attention deficit hyper-activity disorder, and substance use disorders including alcoholism and alcohol abuse.


Here is a YouTube vid I favorited a while ago, its just one in a series of vids where DeLuca talks about how unfair and baseless the current system is. In this particular vid, he talks about examples of "red flags" that doctors are expected to look out for, and he says that almost every CP patient he knows could be said to show these red flags, and how ridiculous it all is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZnBDcCzlw0

nodrover
09-09-2009, 07:12 AM
For some reason I read through almost all of the doctors from the link the OP posted. I did it over the span of a long while (couple days); just because I found it very interesting and disgusting at what the DEA is doing to some doctors. I totally agree with Clinton, in that a lot of the doctors on that site sounded like they were just prescribing opioids in the due course of treatment.

I was very surprised that ALOT of the doctors on the site got into trouble scripting out schedule III and IV substances like hydrocodone w/an NSAID and benzos. I would think the DEA would be more concerned with schedule II substances like oxycodone and hydromorphone, etc. ("the good stuff" as we would say). Granted, there are a number of doctors on the list that prescribed schedule II drugs, but I think the vast majority of careers lost seem to come as a result of prescribing drugs that "wern't that good".