Temgesic vs Hydrocodone

[bodangly]

Ok, so I am hard up for some opiates, my local sources have diminished and im rather sick of tea, so I was thinking of making an overseas order. Now my question is, .2 mg temgesic (buprenorphine) vs 7.5 mg hydros, both 50 bucks per 30 pills. Which is more worth it? My tolerance has dropped off considerably (almost to nothing at this point) as it has been some time since I've been using. Supposedly the temgesic pills are pretty decent for someone with little to no tolerance if insufflated, but I figured I'd check here.

[shaunclo]

Temgesic is a maintenance drug, while hydro is not. If had a choice between the 2 I would definitley choose the hydro. Even though hydro dont do shit anymore execpt for a tiny tylenol buzz.

I have not heard of anyone ever getting off on buprenorphine. Maybe someone w/ out a tolerance at all might feel something, but it is not a full-agonist.

[ZodiacKiller]

Holy shit, Shaunocock-a-doodle, look at that mighty rep count! And here I must disagree with you, and I hope we can still be friends. Bear with me, I am nodding like a 'tard...but I have gotten off on Bupe, big time. It was after being totally clean for 5 weeks--I had cravings so bad, so I took an 8mg from my wife. Within an hour I was fucking floored, and I shit you not, I mean FLOORED. Nods and all, and the high lasted close to 12 hours.

You know me well enough by now to know that I ain't a bullshitter, and no-one was more surpised (and happy) than I was at the time. Of course, I tried again 2 days later with diminished results. And tried again a week later with almost NO results whatsoever.

But that first stop-sign after being clean-as-a-whistle for those 5 weeks--it was almost like that first H high. Almost, heheh....


ZK

[HistoryofMadness]

Temgesic is a maintenance drug, while hydro is not. If had a choice between the 2 I would definitley choose the hydro. Even though hydro dont do shit anymore execpt for a tiny tylenol buzz.

I have not heard of anyone ever getting off on buprenorphine. Maybe someone w/ out a tolerance at all might feel something, but it is not a full-agonist.

I'm with Z_K on 2 things: tam will get you high if you have zero tolerance, and the effects will drop off like a freaking rock. I had a similar thing happen that Z_K describes.

Go for the hydros, though, because you will be able to count on 30 pills lasting you as long as you can stretch them if you have no tolerance. The trick is not to keep pushing the amount trying to either get higher or get that first high. Or just skip lots of days in between, which is the best (and most unlikely, at least for most opiophiles) scenario.

Or just get a good bottle of scotch and count your blessings that your not dealing with opie shit. Plus, unless you have thoroughly researched the company, you may be getting scammed, or it may take forever to get them. The net is no safer than the street when it comes to drugs (except you probably won't get shot).

[bodangly]

Yea I mean, the thing is, I know bupe is mainly for the maintenance, however like I said I don't think I have any tolerance at all anymore, so it would probably only take about a half mg insufflated for me to get some effects. The other thing is the source for the bupe is definitely legit, the hydro guy is legit but I've heard his hydros have somewhat of a speedy edge at first and that worries me. Maybe I'll just get a small batch of each and decide that way, really the only way to know for sure. If anyone is interested in the sources I'll keep you guys updated on how it goes, you could PM me if you need the address. The guy with the bupe only conducts business through email so as to remain discreet, and I definitely think that is a plus because it seems the website IOPs are likely to get watched more and more by the fascist American government.

[shaunclo]

but I have gotten off on Bupe, big time. It was after being totally clean for 5 weeks--I had cravings so bad, so I took an 8mg from my wife. Within an hour I was fucking floored, and I shit you not, I mean FLOORED. Nods and all, and the high lasted close to 12 hours.

You know me well enough by now to know that I ain't a bullshitter, and no-one was more surpised (and happy) than I was at the time. Of course, I tried again 2 days later with diminished results. And tried again a week later with almost NO results whatsoever.

But that first stop-sign after being clean-as-a-whistle for those 5 weeks--it was almost like that first H high. Almost, heheh....


ZK

I actually remember you telling me this, in fact I gave 2 of my friends each an 8millie sub back in the day and they both ended up not coming into work the next day cause they were both throwing up their guts HAHAAAAAAAA. I was laughin my ass off, So yes you can get high on sub, but even though hydro dont do shit for me, I would still rather have the hydro.

I guess only becuase i get prescribed bup so it doesnt seem as fun, I guess if I was getting bup from the black-market, I would have to think a little harder about which one to choose.

[Hammilton]

Bupe is mainly for maintenance.

That really isn't true. Buprenorphine, in the states anyway, has an extremely limited use as a maintenance drug. In europe, specifically france and I believe england (the latter might be wrong) it has a bit longer history, but not greatly. Temgesic isn't a maintenance drug at all, actually; It'd be damn impossible to maintain anyone on 200 microgram pills. You know how many of the fuckers you'd need under your tongue?

Injection, which IS done with temgesics (I have no idea how safe this is; I know subutex's fillers are terrible for injection and impossible to remove), is supposed to rival heroin. Supposed. I have no idea as to veracity of the claim.

If I had to pick... I'd go for hydro too, but only because 200 mikes is miniscule. For someone without a tolerance I'd bet they'd need 4 of them sublingually for a minor buzz. a 2mg suboxone would be tight though. When I was on Bupe maintenance, the doc without knowing my tolerance level-I didn't either, I had been using pods esclusively for 4 months, all I knew was that 50mg of hydro didn't do much and 400mg codeine was good for going to work on. He put me on 4mg, when that didn't do anything within 4 hours he told me to take another 2mg. HOLY FUCKING SHIT. I have never been higher (except an OD on methadone; Turns out if you keep taking 5mg every hour for 3 or 4 hours on top of your usual 25mg you can't feel you skin for a day).

It made for an incredible high. Pure utter blissful euphoria. Nods filled with dreams alternating between pastoral settings complete with fields of poppies and scenes from 17 or 18 hundreds London, apparently ripped from "From Hell"- which is my favorite opium movie.

Hammilton