View Full Version : wanting some advice on temp stopping oc
crazyjackalope
06-08-2006, 01:03 AM
hello,
i am wishing for some advice. currently i take around 300-400 mg of o.c a day. been at this dose for around 1 1/2 years, taken opiates in varied forms for 3 years. tried to cold turkey it but by the 3rd day i wish i could die. have tried to get on suboxone, but the area i live in has 2 docs for that and they are booked up for months in advance. basically i need to take a break for a while due to all probs having. anyone have any suggestions.
absentvirtue
06-08-2006, 01:33 AM
hello,
i am wishing for some advice. currently i take around 300-400 mg of o.c a day. been at this dose for around 1 1/2 years, taken opiates in varied forms for 3 years. tried to cold turkey it but by the 3rd day i wish i could die. have tried to get on suboxone, but the area i live in has 2 docs for that and they are booked up for months in advance. basically i need to take a break for a while due to all probs having. anyone have any suggestions.
If you have good enough self control you could slowly try to ween yourself off them. like take half or 3/4ths of your normal dose for a week and count down to 1/2 your dose. I would just suggest try to lower your dose. If that doesnt work you could try commiting a crime that will put you in jail for long enough to recover from withdrawls, or just go to a rehab. Also, I've read about some people reducing their OPiate intake by using poppy seeds or poppy pods. At least pods and seeds and it is easier to get away from your normal crowd if that is part of the problem. You can easily order pods and seeds in bulk online and seeds can be often found at healthfood stores.
ZodiacKiller
06-08-2006, 01:53 AM
you could try commiting a crime that will put you in jail for long enough to recover from withdrawls.
Uh, this is a pretty damn extreme way to detox, not to mention getting a criminal record on top of an addiction. No offense, but this is not very sound advice.
However, weaning off the drug slowy is sound advice, if you have enough discipline and self-control. I never could do it that way--I was always wanting the high. If you are serious and think you can taper down, I would suggest just taking your OCs whole so they time-release as intended (I don't know your method of administration, but if you're serious, start doing them like this). This way you'll be able to minimize your usage (and maximize your supply), but you'll have to experiment to find the dosage to keep you from being sick. Again, this takes a LOT of willpower, the kind of willpower most of us here do not have.
Also, there is a whole section of this board dedicated to withdrawal--check it out, there are a lot of tips and tricks that can help you minimize your discomfort. Your habit is pretty big; this won't be easy, sorry to say. If you can't get on Suboxone, you may want to look into a Methadone clinic.
Definitely search this site--just type in 'OxyContin withdrawal' or something similar, but as I said, there is a section here just for your type of situation. Good luck to you.
ZK
poonwhalla
06-08-2006, 03:16 AM
Yeah the only thing I would think about in rehab or jail was how high I was going to get when I get out ween=good, jail=bad
superman
06-08-2006, 03:53 AM
just ween down. if self control is a problem(is for me) maybe have a friend/parent/spouse hold on to your stash and give you your allotted amount every other day/week/whatever according to the detailed schedule you provide them.
smoke lots of weed, do a little G, some meth/coke... whatever makes you feel ok while steadily reducing your Opi intake. just try not to acquire another addiction aloing the way ;)
it helps to have something to do, download 50 episodes of your favorite TV show to occupy you during the rough times.
HistoryofMadness
06-08-2006, 04:35 AM
Start skipping days first, then you'll probably notice your tolerance going down. Use that to come down some. Also try DXM or diphenhydramine to stretch the doses you do use. And taking them whole is a great idea, if you don't, unless that just makes you want more.
Never been a big fan of OC, so don't know if this helps, but maybe a little white grapefruit juice from time to time to stretch the doses as well wouldn't hurt.
crazyjackalope
06-08-2006, 04:55 AM
thank you all for advice,
will try taper method but have to give to friend as i have o self control. will also try the dipenhydramine. What does DXM do to help as i've never tried it?
Coddfish
06-08-2006, 06:41 AM
If that doesnt work you could try commiting a crime that will put you in jail for long enough to recover from withdrawls, or just go to a rehab. Ok, is there any more sure-fire way to quit then being thrown in jail? Had I done a few weeks in county 9 years ago, I'd be far better off now (probably). That said, I assumed this was a joke. In any case, it made me laugh. To do a crime, is one thing. But to wait till a cop is around so you can get caught, c'mon. That's pretty funny.
--"Dammit, he wasn't looking. Here lady, take your purse back till he looks over here."
or
--"WHHAttt wal-mart guy? I came in with all these oil filters and bird feeders. I'm innocent, REAAallly!"
devilsdrug
06-08-2006, 06:49 AM
yea thats pretty funny kinda the dd school of withdrawal , although i can honestly say i never did it on purpose to be caught , all my crimes have drug in there name well almost and ha ha i laughed all the way to the padded cell
shaunclo
06-08-2006, 10:42 AM
If you have good enough self control you could slowly try to ween yourself off them. like take half or 3/4ths of your normal dose for a week and count down to 1/2 your dose. I would just suggest try to lower your dose. If that doesnt work you could try commiting a crime that will put you in jail for long enough to recover from withdrawls, or just go to a rehab. Also, I've read about some people reducing their OPiate intake by using poppy seeds or poppy pods. At least pods and seeds and it is easier to get away from your normal crowd if that is part of the problem. You can easily order pods and seeds in bulk online and seeds can be often found at healthfood stores.
I would also not suggest pod-tea, this has a gorilla all of its own also.
In my experience the whole weening shit does not work. You have to want to stop, and quitting cold turkey is the best way, not the easiest but the best. I would suggest also, trying to find a methadone clinic, to help the withdrawals. Its hard, but after one or two weeks you'll feel back to normal. I quit yesterday and I feel terrible right now so I understand and I'm quitting cold turkey but I don't how long I'll last, I feel like shit right now.
Frontier Psychiatrist
06-12-2006, 02:58 PM
Going through WD in jail is kinda nice in it's own way. Everyone thinks that you're crazy and nobody will fuck with you. Not to mention what happens when they do.
The Mayor
06-12-2006, 03:56 PM
Yeah... my useage is almost exactly the same. Let me ask you this: Do you ever have trouble pissing? I notice this on the oc's and not on vics or percs or anything else for that matter.
Let's not kid ourselves on tapering down. That never works. What I usually do is run out and not have anything further to take for a few days. I do this on purpose. If I know I have none tomorrow, but am getting some the day after, I can tough it out. What I usually do is have a lot of grapefruit juice and sit in the sun and tough it out. I try to stop long enough until I get the runs... then I know my body is detoxing itself. After I reward myself with more opies. I don't think quitting is that hard... it's just the first three days that are the worst.
I think that people want to believe quitting is harder than it is because it is easier to continue. Just tough it out... quit for a day and get back on. Next week quit for two, and so forth. The best thing you can do for yourself is go on a vacation where you know you can't score. Maybe just for a few days...
I dunno. seems to work for me
superman
06-15-2006, 04:43 AM
"Do you ever have trouble pissing?"
holy fuck do I ever! it's only a problem when i am really high, when at times i just give up, or decide to be content with partial emptying due to the ridiculous amount of time required.
worst is on E though... i remember one morning after a party(and about 13pills), while my friend was looking for his lost keys(not that he should have been driving, this became obvious later when he drove into a guard rail) i must have spent 15 minutes dribbling..... ended up leaving the venue still full. thank god for dehydration, who knows what could have happened, lol
HistoryofMadness
06-15-2006, 11:23 AM
"Do you ever have trouble pissing?"
holy fuck do I ever! it's only a problem when i am really high, when at times i just give up, or decide to be content with partial emptying due to the ridiculous amount of time required.
worst is on E though... i remember one morning after a party(and about 13pills), while my friend was looking for his lost keys(not that he should have been driving, this became obvious later when he drove into a guard rail) i must have spent 15 minutes dribbling..... ended up leaving the venue still full. thank god for dehydration, who knows what could have happened, lol
Sometimes fuckit I just sit down and get a good book...
hero1'sgirl
06-16-2006, 08:39 AM
You can stop using oc's by not snorting, snaffing, snooping, shooting, or even sticking them in the ass. just stop! :)
devilsdrug
06-16-2006, 08:51 AM
now that is straight forward wisdom that u cant argue with
goagirl23
06-22-2006, 03:04 AM
So a friend of mine tried this method of opiate detoxing and found it to be amazing. Her current daily usage was around 4-5 OC 80's a day. It's basically all about high dosage's of Sodium ascorbate as well as lots of other vitamins and minerals, of which all can be bought at your local health food store. The Sodium ascorbate is the most important thing though. It binds to the opiate receptors in your brain, therefore; reducing cravings and helping to eliminate withdrawls. She said that she could sleep the first night, no leg cramps or tossing and turning etc. I trust what this girl says, as she and I have been down the detox rode many times...... Anyway, here is the website if anyone wants to check it out:
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/197x/libby-af-orthomol_psych-1977-v6-n4-p300.htm (http://www.seanet.com/%7Ealexs/ascorbate/197x/libby-af-orthomol_psych-1977-v6-n4-p300.htm)
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