So I just got my wisdom teeth outttt. (:

[opieland]

Haha, I've been excited for this day for awhile. They scripted me percs. I'm happy. Is it normal for a person to be excited for surgery? I feel like I am truly like the biggest J right now.

[duck]

Oh i did the same exact thing. I was so excited. Used it as an excuse to buy a $1000 worth of oxy and heroin....yay. Gotta quit doing that shit.

[wisegal]

this reminds me: Last summer a coworker/friend had wisdom teeth out (all 4 at once) of course my Junky minds 1st response was "what's they script ya??!" He got perks, said they made him feel aggravated AND GAVE THEM TO ME. i loved him :p

[Restharrow]

Haha, I've been excited for this day for awhile. They scripted me percs. I'm happy. Is it normal for a person to be excited for surgery? I feel like I am truly like the biggest J right now.
Just curious, how old are you? I was 19 when I got my wisdom teeth out. It hurt like hell and the pain meds made me sick. I think my GF ate the pain meds after I took 2 or 3 of them.

I like Duck's plan better, but how about "Plan C" -- skip the surgery and take the $1,000 of Oxy.

Will

[opieland]

Just curious, how old are you? I was 19 when I got my wisdom teeth out. It hurt like hell and the pain meds made me sick. I think my GF ate the pain meds after I took 2 or 3 of them.

I like Duck's plan better, but how about "Plan C" -- skip the surgery and take the $1,000 of Oxy.

Will


I just turned 18. And I felt no pain and still feel no pain. They injected me with valium, some other thing to put me to sleep, and my mouth is still numb from the other shit.

My parent's absolutely do not trust me whatsoever with medication though and will be giving them to me. I convinced them my tolerance is high enough from previous abuse that I need at least 3, so I'll just hold on to the 3 and then once I get the 6 I'll be nicely opiated for awhile.

I'm on probation and haven't taken any type of opiate in a long while, my tolerance is way lowwwww. A few months ago percs would be worthless to me unless I did a CWE. Now I'm good though. (:

this reminds me: Last summer a coworker/friend had wisdom teeth out (all 4 at once) of course my Junky minds 1st response was "what's they script ya??!" He got perks, said they made him feel aggravated AND GAVE THEM TO ME. i loved him :p


Haha, I just had a buddy of mine give me 6 for absolutely no reason last week. And I actually owe him 15 dollars for something too. Good friend. (:

[Oakleyskier]

I convinced them my tolerance is high enough from previous abuse that I need at least 3, so I'll just hold on to the 3 and then once I get the 6 I'll be nicely opiated for awhile.




you're definately going to overdose and die.

[opieland]

[QUOTE=opieland;387031]I convinced them my tolerance is high enough from previous abuse that I need at least 3, so I'll just hold on to the 3 and then once I get the 6 I'll be nicely opiated for awhile.

QUOTE]


you're definately going to overdose and die.

350 x 6 = 2100.

Joke? Honestly joking about overdosing on forums such as this one is not a very smart thing to do. Just my opinion anyways.

[Pandora]

[QUOTE=Oakleyskier;387090]

350 x 6 = 2100.

Joke? Honestly joking about overdosing on forums such as this one is not a very smart thing to do. Just my opinion anyways.

Don't worry, you will be just fine. Are they the 5/325's? Even if they were 500 mg, taking 6 at once you'd be just fine, trust me. I wouldn't do it on a regular basis or anything, but every once in a while and you're cool. That guy's either an idiot or a prick, either way, just ignore him. :)

[opieland]

[QUOTE=opieland;387099]

Don't worry, you will be just fine. Are they the 5/325's? Even if they were 500 mg, taking 6 at once you'd be just fine, trust me. I wouldn't do it on a regular basis or anything, but every once in a while and you're cool. That guy's either an idiot or a prick, either way, just ignore him. :)

Oh I know all about the 4000 MG APAP limit (and no, I'm not trying to sound like som expert or anything, I'm far from that lol). I just didn't know if that guy either was misinformed or making a dumb joke. Thank you though. (:

[lotus]

My parent's absolutely do not trust me whatsoever with medication though and will be giving them to me.

my parents were the same. had mine out at 16.

they were all impacted, hadn't broken thru my gums, and it hurt like fukingodhell. woke up too soon, in some room with unconscious people being roll'd around and lined up like in a mourge, tried to rip all the i.v's out - nurses came running and screaming, hands waving in the air, "10 OF MORPHINE"....saw a big smile, then black.

woke up to my mom bitching at me cause in that thin barely closed hospital gown she noticed my first tattoo - all i said was "don't tell dad"....got a slap across the back of the head for that, giant swollen head from surgery, incredible pain, and shit tylenol 3's. 30 of them. to have her hide and hover over that bottle as if - i dunno. day 2, and 6 pills later, i thought 'fuck this' and found them. ate them. all.

she didn't think i'd o.d - she knew i'd munch the whole bottle in a day......can't say she never tried~

[opieland]

my parents were the same. had mine out at 16.

they were all impacted, hadn't broken thru my gums, and it hurt like fukingodhell. woke up too soon, in some room with unconscious people being roll'd around and lined up like in a mourge, tried to rip all the i.v's out - nurses came running and screaming, hands waving in the air, "10 OF MORPHINE"....saw a big smile, then black.

woke up to my mom bitching at me cause in that thin barely closed hospital gown she noticed my first tattoo - all i said was "don't tell dad"....got a slap across the back of the head for that, giant swollen head from surgery, incredible pain, and shit tylenol 3's. 30 of them. to have her hide and hover over that bottle as if - i dunno. day 2, and 6 pills later, i thought 'fuck this' and found them. ate them. all.

she didn't think i'd o.d - she knew i'd munch the whole bottle in a day......can't say she never tried~

Yeah, last time I had a hold of 20 percs a few somas and 13 kpins... Completely blacked out, took them all over a a 2 day period, ended up going to school, don't remember shit the whole day, then actually had to go to my therapist after school (luckily not my psychiatrist), and yeahhh I don't go to that therapist any more and ever since then I don't hold my own meds.


Oh and I took 6, and I'm feeling nice. In case anyone was wondering. (:

[Oakleyskier]

i only wish i was joking... you didnt see the episode of CSI miami where the kid took 4 2 mg oxy cottons and DIED? be careful/

[losangeleslifer]

Oakleyskier,

In my mind I picture you just like that dude in your avatar.

[youwonhundred]

In a perfect world, you are of age, and responsible for your own health care and well being, etc, but I assume you live with your parents, which changes the game a bit. I understand their fears and all that, but what are they gonna do, babysit your meds every time you get anything stronger than aspirin?

[lotus]

i'm 32, lived on my own since 19 (except for a small stint where i crawl'd back home upon entering methadone treatment) my mom still treats me like i'm 5. when i'm in her house, under her roof, every pill and liquid that enters this body is question'd....hell, who am i kidding, she does it all the time!

anyways - i've only just begun to understand why now that my niece is 8. i will forever see her as this little fluffly hair'd monkey who, by a single thought, melts my heart.

if her life ever took a turn where she couldn't be trusted to take meds as prescribed - as of now, i'd babysit each one, including the aspirin.

it's just - i know pot heads, drunks, coke heads, speed freaks who've all eventually quit and never look'd back. i can't think of a single opiophile i can say that about - the handful that've managed to stop, not a moment goes by where life isn't measured up to a shot of dope. i don't want that to be her life.....

...in turn, for the first time, i have the tinyest take on what it must be like to be a parent - we will always be the small, perfect, new lives with soft unfocused eyes they brought home from the hospital swathed in a blanket, and they will always be driven to do whatever they can to protect us.

[youwonhundred]

@ lotus

What you are saying is true. I been clean for a year plus now, and not a day goes by that I don't think about that warm opiate fuzziness.

[Synack]

I had one out recently, I was low on pills - figured I get a few percs to tide me over... and instead, I was in so much pain, I ended up taking the rest of my good pills earlier than I planned! oye!

[duck]

inot a moment goes by where life isn't measured up to a shot of dope.


that's the straight juice right there.

[Fabmama]

In a perfect world, you are of age, and responsible for your own health care and well being, etc, but I assume you live with your parents, which changes the game a bit. I understand their fears and all that, but what are they gonna do, babysit your meds every time you get anything stronger than aspirin?
LOL Well some parents would,or keep them for themselves and use them.....just what I've had happen.

[bodytec]

i only wish i was joking... you didnt see the episode of CSI miami where the kid took 4 2 mg oxy cottons and DIED? be careful/

???? Is that supposed to be "2 mg oxy cottons" ?

[taj]

???? Is that supposed to be "2 mg oxy cottons" ?

ya, I think he just trying to be a smart-ass :rolleyes:

[bodytec]

^^^
Oh ok.

O.P.--Yea, the removal of my wisdom teeth was my first opiate experience,well extra medicated at least
It was great!

[OxyBlowBall2]

i remember getting my wisdom teeth out. 3 of them were impacted. i got 30 perc 5's for that. pretty much the first time i got really high on opiates. i was 16. id taken tylenol 3's before a few times but nothin really happened. they used sodium pentathol to knock me out. when i woke up it was awesome but when i got home i was in agony. shortly after the first pill, i was in heaven. i then proceeded to have a chocolate shake from burger king.

the only thing that really sucked about getting my wisdom teeth out was that they fucked up sewing my mouth up. i kept bleeding like crazy and had to go back that night for them to redo it but they couldnt put me to sleep again cause i had eaten food. it didnt hurt that bad cause i was high but apparently i turned white as a ghost and got really sweaty while they were doing it. they thought i was gonna pass out. it was great that i only needed 1 to feel amazing and when i decided to take 2, wow. it was like the best thing ever.

now i need to eat like 8 to 16 of those to feel anything :(

[lotus]

they fucked up sewing my mouth up



a friend who has his wisdom teeth out - 3 or 4 months after he began bitching about something not feeling right, over the following month a lump started forming - the dr said if it was a little bit of stitch it would fester out.......it grew to a rather large lump, and he began cracking jokes about it festering.

we were out one night, all baked, laughing our asses off over fester when he began, what i can only describe, as violent gagging - we thought he was just screwing around...but it had pop'd - he spit out this giant mass of thick bloody pussy i dunno what....i've yet to see anything that gross in real life ever - before or since..... he spent the rest of the nite sucking on mcdicks salt packets and giant mountain dew slushies - with dry stoner mouth, he couldn't get rid of the taste.

good times~

[youwonhundred]

Haha you know its funny, I went to dentist for an eval, to have mine removed when i was in college in 95. Hit em up for a script of perc fives, and sort of forgot to go back, so I still have em, impacted, and don't really care all that much. They don't hurt, and didn't at the time, but it was good enough to get a script, so fuck it.

[Saint]

Do they actually give you percs or whatever just for having your wisdom teeth removed?
Wow.. I've had them removed twice (one grew back!) and all they ever gave me was paracetamol.
I have never heard of anyone else getting something worthwile either.. I guess Europe (or Holland) sucks in that area..
But if I were really honest.. it does suck and it does hurt but it's doable without opiates (but don't tell anyone ;-).
I've had pain ten times worse in the hospital and still didn't get RX-ed anything. Thank god I'm on done again.

[duck]

I was given 30 Perc 10/325 and when those ran out got 20 hydro 10/325s :)

[Indy]

Saint you USUALLY get something good for somebody with no tolerance. But believe me there are still plenty of doctors here who share you opinion (that it doesn't require opiates). I think you're right, the pain was only really bad after the procedure for me (because i had a tolerance it wore off too fast). But it's really not about what is "required". I mean technically you don't NEED painkillers for anything, but why let a patient be in pain just because you can? When i called and told them the vicodin i had didn't work the asshole dentist (he was the "on call" one, not my dentist) said it was supposed to hurt and that that was the point.

[ryan]

I'm on probation and haven't taken any type of opiate in a long while, my tolerance is way lowwwww. A few months ago percs would be worthless to me unless I did a CWE. Now I'm good though. (:


I know you prob. don't want to hear this, but you can still be violated -- regardless if you have a script or not -- Depends on how much of a dick the P.O. is.

I was violated for taking tylenol #3's which I had a valid script for...but I was on federal probation and my PO was a complete and utter jism face..just be careful..
I was doing heroin too, but they used an instant test and that cannot tell the diff between heroin and codeine, so I showed him my codeine bottle, date still valid not expired, and he said he doesn't care...he claimed I was supposed to tell him about any scripts before I take the meds, and it's his call whether or not I can take them, regardless of what the doctor says.
Since I took it without telling him first, it was a violation of the terms of the probation.
Bam -- bail revoked, jail for 2 months.
Shit sucked. He didn't even know about the heroin either.

One of my co-defendants had a bad back and was on all kinds of shit -- he was forced off of everything, and put in to rehab.
He lasted 3 days and was medically discharged (lol, stupid fucking PO) cause he was physically not able to participate in the treatment program.
So they made him go back home and take superdoses of NSAIDs and get on disability (with the fentanil and whatever else he was on previously he was able to work)
How's that for a justice system?

[Indy]

I'm pretty sure that's unconstitutional. Even for an ex-con. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're lying at all. I believe you. And i think even if someone DID bring up the constitutionality of it, it would get shot down all the way to the supreme court. but there's definitely something inhumane and wrong about that.

[ryan]

I'm pretty sure that's unconstitutional. Even for an ex-con. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you're lying at all. I believe you. And i think even if someone DID bring up the constitutionality of it, it would get shot down all the way to the supreme court. but there's definitely something inhumane and wrong about that.

When you sign the probation agreement papers, there's a whole bunch of shit on there that seems like it's unconstitutional...but basically, when you are being supervised by them you give up alot of rights...

I will have to dig around for the terms of my probation (I know I got em somewhere) but it says right on there something about perscriptions and giving a list of them to the PO BEFORE you take them..

I basically did not do that...I waited until after it came up positive and then I told him about it -- which seriously pissed the guy off. My case also involved drugs (heroin and cocaine) so that was just another reason to make him mad as well.

This is the kind of guy who would violate you if you got in a car accident and they gave you a shot of morphine in the ambulance!
Heh, in fact I even asked him that, and he said if you're conscious at the time you should call him before the paramedics give you any shots..
I was like ------ is this guy for real?

[Saint]

Saint you USUALLY get something good for somebody with no tolerance. But believe me there are still plenty of doctors here who share you opinion (that it doesn't require opiates). I think you're right, the pain was only really bad after the procedure for me (because i had a tolerance it wore off too fast). But it's really not about what is "required". I mean technically you don't NEED painkillers for anything, but why let a patient be in pain just because you can? When i called and told them the vicodin i had didn't work the asshole dentist (he was the "on call" one, not my dentist) said it was supposed to hurt and that that was the point.

Don't understand me wrong; I'm all for painkillers (naturally ;-). In Holland they are very conservative when it comes to painkillers. I had a colonscopy and some little surgery done where they took a 'bite' out of my stomach and still didn't get anything (and I wasn't on methadone at the time either) when I told them afterwards it fucking hurt the nurse said; 'Oops, I was supposed to give you something but simply forgot'. Yeah right. They seem to think that you don't feel pain because it says 'junky' in your stats..
Your 'on call' dentist sounds like a real asshole btw..

[Indy]

Yeah, I agree with you about the wisdom teeth procedure not really NEEDING painkillers. Although when i got home i definitely needed them, that was probably because of my tolerance not being taken into account with their anesthesia.

What really would suck would be having certain types of surgery like (including but not limited to) intestinal or colon surgery where narcotic painkillers would cause complications because of the constipation effect.

That's interesting to hear that Holland is very conservative(with narcoticcs). Especially since Holland is traditionally known for its poppies, isn't it?

[Saint]

That's interesting to hear that Holland is very conservative(with narcoticcs). Especially since Holland is traditionally known for its poppies, isn't it?

We are known for flowers in general, often tulips, but poppies? I've never heard of that. Wish it were true though ;-)

[Indy]

Dutch Blue is a type of poppy seeds, maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

[Saint]

Dutch Blue is a type of poppy seeds, maybe that's what I'm thinking of.

I'd like to try seeds or pods once and have looked around but they are not available here..
Shit, the weather is nice and sunny and all I do is sit inside.. anyone knows that feeling.. like you should be out there doing something but you just can't make yourself do it..

[dharma bum]

I used to get crazy with anticipation before I got my wisdom's taken out. I was too young, hadn';t found a reliable connect yet. I got mine removed one at a time. I would get 24 lortab 10's. The old UAD's. On top of the 24 I got a "dry socket" that allowed me 16 more.. This dentist was a friend of the family mind you. Oh, and before the big OXY scourge hit and junky wasn't written on yer forehead for needing a tooth removed....so i got 150 hydro 10's and I was in heaven. Never had I found a substance so compatible with me.

After that I was in an accident that required oral surgery. It wa a long process so I stayed on pain killers a year...hydro mostly, once percocet. I 18 to 19 and the last time I called my dentist was from a job site--and I was asking for more and he said there would be 12 hydro 10's waiting on me at the pharmacy but that was it. No more. He said he was getting worried about me..

So that was the first time I discovered withdrawal and was paying street prices in no time.

I'd like to try seeds or pods once and have looked around but they are not available here..
Shit, the weather is nice and sunny and all I do is sit inside.. anyone knows that feeling.. like you should be out there doing something but you just can't make yourself do it..

I have never tried either but have been thinking seriously of stopping suboxone for awhile so I could feel some good pods. I just have no clue what site to go to or who is trustworthy. I'm not soliciting either guys. I don't wanna source but is it as easy as throwing a dart blindfolded and hitting something. I mean do you all usually get good results?

And I know what you mean Saint about feeling like you should be outdoors but can't do it. I've been outside already this beautiful morning but often I'm stretched on the couch reading. So then I feel guilty for not enjoying and taking advantage of a nice day. That's fucked up. I have enough guilt without some nice day fucking me up...hehe. But today will be different. I'm staying outside. I've been finishing my new porch for my house and am very excited.

[Saint]

And I know what you mean Saint about feeling like you should be outdoors but can't do it. I've been outside already this beautiful morning but often I'm stretched on the couch reading. So then I feel guilty for not enjoying and taking advantage of a nice day. That's fucked up. I have enough guilt without some nice day fucking me up...hehe. But today will be different. I'm staying outside. I've been finishing my new porch for my house and am very excited.

I actually forced myself to move my lazy ass and went cycling for a few hours! Now I'm a bit sunburnt but feeling quite good and relaxed from the exercise. Only did about 45/50 km's but I did it. Felt my muscles for the first time in weeks.
Guess now I really do deserve to lay on the couch for the rest of the day ;-)

btw: I wasn't solliciting either! Just curious how people manage the hassle of getting pods/seeds etc..

[Madam Oxy]

...but it had pop'd - he spit out this giant mass of thick bloody pussy i dunno what....i've yet to see anything that gross in real life ever - before or since.....

EEEEWWWWWWWWwwwwwww! That's the grossiest thing I've read in along time.
My daughter had a 'fester' on her stomach. The stuff that came out was just so vile I almost puked from the smell, and I was 4 feet away!. It had yellow and green pus, w/ blood, and this stuff was lumpy like cottage cheese. If this is what popped in his mouth, ugh....I'm gonna go :vomit: now.

[duck]

let's leave the festering discussion at that. It's really disturbing.

[Nik_the_barber]

Hey speaking of teeth and dentist. A few weeks ago, I got a abcess tooth (my god what fucking pain). So I went to the dentist after like a week of being in pain, and they performed a small prep for a root canal that i''m getting in a couple days. What they did is drilled a hole in the very top of the tooth on the back side where it meet's the gum line, and they stuffed the hole with medicated gauze, well the point is so the infection drains out. Well two weeks later, I have gotten 3 scripts of 20 vic 5's. The last one I got was today cause where the fucker drilled the hole my tooth cracked a couple days ago and a big piece of my tooth randomly fell out. So they called me in a script yesterday and I forgot it. I also had got perc 5 for my wisdom teeth removal and my god how awesome it was. I was hopeing to at least get perc's for this. But I have got 60 vic 5's so far. I'm not compaining but god damn I got to like 10 of the mother fuckers for any decent feeling. I hope when I get the actual root canal they will finally give me some perc's. Does anyone have any experince with this, and do you think it's cool to hint that the vic's arent that good and I want something better?

[OxyBlowBall2]

Hey speaking of teeth and dentist. A few weeks ago, I got a abcess tooth (my god what fucking pain). So I went to the dentist after like a week of being in pain, and they performed a small prep for a root canal that i''m getting in a couple days. What they did is drilled a hole in the very top of the tooth on the back side where it meet's the gum line, and they stuffed the hole with medicated gauze, well the point is so the infection drains out. Well two weeks later, I have gotten 3 scripts of 20 vic 5's. The last one I got was today cause where the fucker drilled the hole my tooth cracked a couple days ago and a big piece of my tooth randomly fell out. So they called me in a script yesterday and I forgot it. I also had got perc 5 for my wisdom teeth removal and my god how awesome it was. I was hopeing to at least get perc's for this. But I have got 60 vic 5's so far. I'm not compaining but god damn I got to like 10 of the mother fuckers for any decent feeling. I hope when I get the actual root canal they will finally give me some perc's. Does anyone have any experince with this, and do you think it's cool to hint that the vic's arent that good and I want something better?


it all depends man. before my root canal my regular dentist gave me a script of vicodin 7.5's but i was reffered to a specialist to have the root canal done. the specialist was a fucking idiot and all i got out of him was 12 Tylenol 3's, for a fucking root canal. the asshole spelled my last name wrong on the script too but it seems like your dentist is cool. if he still gives you vic's when hes its over just call back the next day and say it still hurts the pain meds arent working.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

i only wish i was joking... you didnt see the episode of CSI miami where the kid took 4 2 mg oxy cottons and DIED? be careful/
that was a show. CSI also showed a man collecting bodies of Heroin addicts who OD'd and filtering out the heroin that was left in their organs. Pretty far fetched.... none the less be careful but 8mg of oxy orally would not kill an 18 year old unless he was allergic IMO

[Ickyuck]

The kid gets scripted percs and feels like a junky.:rolleyes:

God, those were the days.:)

[HowLongIsTooLong]

The kid gets scripted percs and feels like a junky.:rolleyes:

God, those were the days.:)

Icky, yer killin' me!!!

Funny shit for real, still laughing

D

[lib.sOCialist]

I have an appointment with my oral surgeon tomorrow (tuesday) to get all four of my impacted wisdom teeth removed, im so afraid they wont be able to put me completely out becuase of my tolerance to opiates and benzos, has anyone had this problem? its stressing me out which is causing me to do even MOAR opiates :( RAIJ!!!!

[Papa Verine]

I've had everything imaginable done to my teeth over the years. I've had an entire life of dental problems. Sometimes I got lucky and scored a nice script, and sometimes I was told to take some Tylenol. It's a crap shoot. I've also had abcesses that popped inside my mouth, on a number of occasions. Once I had a tooth pulled, and the dentist tore a hole into my sinus ripping out the tooth. Over the next couple months my sinus filled with puss, and slowly drained into the open wound. I kept going back to the dentist and he kept insisting there was no problem. Eventually, I went to an oral surgeon, who realizied right away that I was right, and I had to have my sinus cut open through the tooth site, and drained, into my mouth. That was A LOT of material...

All this shit, all these experiences... have made my anxiety go away. Because after going through these things, you just tend to NOT sweat the small stuff any more. I laugh at the thought of having a simple tooth extraction that slowly heals up over time as it's supposed to. I don't need shit for that... not even the Tylenol.

[lib.sOCialist]

Damn papa, your one tough sob...

[Suboxstitute]

I have an appointment with my oral surgeon tomorrow (tuesday) to get all four of my impacted wisdom teeth removed, im so afraid they wont be able to put me completely out becuase of my tolerance to opiates and benzos, has anyone had this problem? its stressing me out which is causing me to do even MOAR opiates :( RAIJ!!!!


DO NOT SWEAT IT, DEAR LIBERAL! :)

I've had IV sedation (which is likely what they'll use) when I was using (lots and lots of hydro & just plain "lots" of oxy) and they put me out and kept me asleep just fine with the IV. I was lucky (?) enough to have had back surgery earlier that year, so I told the oral surgeon "I have a pretty high tolerance to opiates due to all the back problems I've had". IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. (i actually said that last part, to give him a clue that I was - ah - taking maybe a bit more than prescribed!)

SO: You could say that - that you seem to have a really high tolerance with pain meds, and you've been on them recently for _____________(pick condition) and you are concerned about staying "out" for the surgery and not being in horrible pain, etc.

And then don't do so many tonight, for god's sake, of whatever it is you do!

Ive also had nitrous oxide (laughing gas) for a three-tooth extraction that wasn't pretty (don't worry, I am not toothless and they were not front teeth, I have an "appliance" my teeth actually LOOK pretty but underneath all those implants and crowns.....well...... -

Anyway, with nitrous, opiates including sub have no effect; it works just fine but for some reason they do not generally use that method for wisdom teeth. They knock you out cold and also put an amnesiac drug in the IV so you don't remember anything. Usually, I can't speak for all oral surgeons, only the 162 I've seen. :p

Papa Verine and I are in the running for the most, and worst, dental surgeries I think! But again you'll be fine.

======================

What I AM worried about is my next surgery with now being on sub maintenance It is near IMPOSSIBLE for the suboxone to be knocked off the opiate receptors unless with a massive amount of STRONG SHIT. OR - unless you've tapered down your sub and are on a very low dose. The latter is my intention.

[mikey5string]

I have an appointment with my oral surgeon tomorrow (tuesday) to get all four of my impacted wisdom teeth removed, im so afraid they wont be able to put me completely out becuase of my tolerance to opiates and benzos, has anyone had this problem? its stressing me out which is causing me to do even MOAR opiates :( RAIJ!!!!


i got sodium pentathol when i got mine out. i cant fathom how that shit wouldnt knock anyone out within 10 seconds.

[lotus]

I have an appointment with my oral surgeon tomorrow (tuesday) to get all four of my impacted wisdom teeth removed, im so afraid they wont be able to put me completely out becuase of my tolerance to opiates and benzos, has anyone had this problem? its stressing me out which is causing me to do even MOAR opiates :( RAIJ!!!!

as far as i understand, that is why they watch your vitals. they'll notice them coming up before you do, which is why you don't wake up till they want you to.......ask me about the rest of what i want to write here---> <--- after you've had the surgery:juggle:.

some people are naturally difficult to put out, and keep down. you can lie, tell the truth....bottom line, it's your life (bad interactions can and do happen - as in rushed to the hospital cause you never mention'd you were on methadone and your vitals drop'd off the map....) if it's that high, and they're super suspect, i imagine a quick panel test when you're out will give them the answers they want (unethical - but.....if it's of concern......)

also, last thing, when i had 3/4's of my teeth taken out last year, i heard this "valium? why are you using valium? you're not supposed to put that in there".....to which "we only use it with them (methadone patients) because they're impossible to put out" was responded - and i then i actually just closed my eyes and *fell asleep* before they gave me the final drug to put me asleep.

i want to tell you you really don't have anything to worry about - but, depending on just what your situation is, you might want to disclose.....the worse thing that'll happen is they won't give you 30 T3's.

take care~

[lib.sOCialist]

DO NOT SWEAT IT, DEAR LIBERAL! :)

I've had IV sedation (which is likely what they'll use) when I was using (lots and lots of hydro & just plain "lots" of oxy) and they put me out and kept me asleep just fine with the IV. I was lucky (?) enough to have had back surgery earlier that year, so I told the oral surgeon "I have a pretty high tolerance to opiates due to all the back problems I've had". IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. (i actually said that last part, to give him a clue that I was - ah - taking maybe a bit more than prescribed!)

SO: You could say that - that you seem to have a really high tolerance with pain meds, and you've been on them recently for _____________(pick condition) and you are concerned about staying "out" for the surgery and not being in horrible pain, etc.

And then don't do so many tonight, for god's sake, of whatever it is you do!

Ive also had nitrous oxide (laughing gas) for a three-tooth extraction that wasn't pretty (don't worry, I am not toothless and they were not front teeth, I have an "appliance" my teeth actually LOOK pretty but underneath all those implants and crowns.....well...... -

Anyway, with nitrous, opiates including sub have no effect; it works just fine but for some reason they do not generally use that method for wisdom teeth. They knock you out cold and also put an amnesiac drug in the IV so you don't remember anything. Usually, I can't speak for all oral surgeons, only the 162 I've seen. :p

Papa Verine and I are in the running for the most, and worst, dental surgeries I think! But again you'll be fine.

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What I AM worried about is my next surgery with now being on sub maintenance It is near IMPOSSIBLE for the suboxone to be knocked off the opiate receptors unless with a massive amount of STRONG SHIT. OR - unless you've tapered down your sub and are on a very low dose. The latter is my intention.

Oh, sue, i love you! seriously you just put my mind at ease. Im pretty sure all my doctors and dentists know i was prescribed suboxone because i had to go through my insurance. so now im just worrying if there gonna give me a script or say that terrible, terrible word, Ibuprofen with a grin on there face like they know there just shattering my soul :( any way thanks alot sue, your the best you smokin lil crab you