how much to iv first time

[sleepwell]

I've been taking mscontin orally for over a year now. can't get that warm n fuzzy feeling like we all shoot for (no pun intended). I can eat 40 of these and can't feel a thing. oh yeah...they're the 30's - red/purple tabs mscontin.

I've never iv'd with exception to the 4mg shots of dilaudid in the e.r. yummmmm

how many of these should i soak up and bang ?

scored some oc 5mg's about a month ago....ate 20 and didn't feel a thing either.

so yeah...here i am...and want to make use of the mscontin i get scripted every month. thinking it's time to bang some. and spare me the 'don't cross that line'...i'm crossing...if you'd like to be my crossing guard please reply.

thx.

[nick]

maybe consider plugging rather than IV,huh?

[sleepwell]

so considering my intake orally...how many mg to plug ? also tried plugging a while back and didn't get off. maybe i didn't have enough.

but i'd still like to know how much to iv ?

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so just finished plugging 300mg and nothing. :( sucks.

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wiped the coating off
put in warm water
gently took lighter to it ...never bubbling or boiling
moved the waxblob aside and pulled it up and pushed it in.

did a second wash with the blob and did the same thing.

very disappointing.

can't get any help here ????? please ?

[bronyraur]

so considering my intake orally...how many mg to plug ? also tried plugging a while back and didn't get off. maybe i didn't have enough.

but i'd still like to know how much to iv ?

You're not going to have much luck getting an answer out of anyone.

What may get someone off just right might kill you, ya know? Your tolerance isn't the same as my tolerance, etc etc etc. All I can say is start small, and work up from there. Or you could look up a oral to IV drug converter on the net (use google, there's lots of them).

Whatever you do, be careful and make sure some will be around *just in case* something happens.

[bigfootlives]

maybe consider plugging rather than IV,huh?

Sometimes I wonder about this site when considering everyong seems so fucking eager to encourage people to stick stuff up there butt. Haha anyways joking aside I would say try a 30. Even if you have some what of a tolerance you should get a tingly feeling and at least if provbably won't hurt you and get you ripped if u have no tolerance at all.

Edit: Woah I didnt see the part where u said you pluygged 300mg and didnt feel anything. Obviously you did something wrong because if you really jhad a tolerance liek that then basically what your satying is even injecting 300mg would probably barely get you high if plugging made yuio feel NOTHING at all because I thinking plugging is arpund 90-95 % whil;e IV is 100%.

[Oakleyskier]

so considering my intake orally...how many mg to plug ? also tried plugging a while back and didn't get off. maybe i didn't have enough.

but i'd still like to know how much to iv ?

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so just finished plugging 300mg and nothing. :( sucks.

------------------------------------

wiped the coating off
put in warm water
gently took lighter to it ...never bubbling or boiling
moved the waxblob aside and pulled it up and pushed it in.

did a second wash with the blob and did the same thing.

very disappointing.

can't get any help here ????? please ?



dude you totally wasted it, plugging is for LAMES, put that shit in your eye socket. push until it completely dissapears into the cavity, make sure it doesnt come out your nose or you are definately FUCKED.... be careful, once you eye-pop you most certainly cant stop


BTW all though this is an Harm Reduction site, these questions are best asked with someone who is expirenced and present in the room with you... if you really wanna bang some ms-contins find someone in real life world and have them help you!

[God_Albino]

if you've never banged something before, ms contins are a fucking BITCH to prepare, i ruined god knows how many pills following the exact advice given on this site before switching back to something i could get into a needle easy.

40 30mg morphine pills at once though huh, cant say i blame you tho if your asshole doesn't give you the slightest buzz something's fucked up and you'll probably end up killing yourself if you can find one of those elephant sized needles big enough to hold however many pills youll need.

whatever, you're a big boy and can cross the street. good luck, or maybe bad luck, judging by your point of view

[jcmanny]

I only used MS Contin pills to keep from wd as I hardly got high off when snorting or eating them. I could do two 100 mg pills and just feel a little bit of a buzz.

After reading about plugging I tried it and was amazed at what a great buzz I had from the anal plunge.

I do not heat my pills. The best way for me is grind the pills into a fine powder after removing the coating, pour the powder in the syringe (with your finger over the small hole), pour in the water, and put the plunger in. You know the rest.

Be careful when putting the plunger in as the goods tend to shoot out.

Some people say to lay on your side for 30 minutes. Sometimes I do lay on my side for however long I can stand it. I guess it helps.

I did 240mg today and had a decent nod going. I had to use two syringes as I only had 60s.

DO NOT START WITH 240mg!

It sounds like you have a big tolerance but start small and work your way up.

I can get 90 100s this week for a very small amount of money but the guy who has them isn't someone I want to do business with. :(

[DreamSellerInc]

I just wanna point out, i might be the idiot here, that if you look on the morphine forum, the thread right above this one says Sticky: IV PREP FOR MS CONTINS

but as far as the tolerance thing goes, obviously start safe, 30mg. Then try two, and see how that does you. You DEFINATELY WANT TO SPACE OUT THE DOSES. If you keep going +1, +1, +1... Be careful, but only you know how your dosage works, obviously there is a lot of exaggeration, but it depends on body weight and tolerance

[Moorefeen]

Havn't made it to the intro here yet fellas, so apologies for that. As someone who is scripted MSContins every month for years I can tell you a couple things...1) Most of the techniques in the sticky's on preppin MS C are either way to much work, totally useless, or only work on a specific generic. 2) How you prep a MS C for IV depends completely on which version of generic you get.

The easiest I've found to shoot are the ones made by Watson, ABG on one side and whatever strength in mg on the other, 60 in my case. With these all I do is remove the coating, put em in a little plastic measuring spoon and crush. I use a drumstick to do mine like a pestle...I got 3ml rigs so I use usually 1ml per tab of ROOM TEMP WATER, very important. DO NOT HEAT the Watsons. They will mix right up like IR's would and do not gel. I stir it up, let it sit for about 5 min or so, sometimes longer, really couldn't tell ya if it matters. Filter, and do watchu do...

The other generics that I've worked perfectly have an added step, but still nothing difficult. Mallinckrodt, Endo, and Ethex (if you can still get Ethex) all are the same here. Take the coating off (except for Endo which is sans coating) and crush finely however you do it. Set aside for later but so you can get to it quickly. Then add your water to a spoon or whatever cooker you use, 1ml per tab and heat to a boil. Remove from the heat, set it down carefully and immediately add your crushed powder before the water can cool much. None of these brands will gel up if you do this right. Stir the mix QUICKLY BUT CAREFULLY, then quickly throw your cotton in and draw up. I draw up without the tip on so I get it all before it cools. If it cools down to much then you've got wax/gel again. I always filter again, then throw my wheel filter on and off to the races...

If this should have its own thread, feel free to move it with my apologies...I just get tired of hearing people frustrate themselves to no end with the sticky's here, cuz really they aren't much help, apologies to the authors of those but it's true.

P.S.== If anyone wants and the mods will allow it, I can post a detailed walkthrough on any of these brands. I've been doin these for...lets just say a good minute now and tried just about every imaginable trick to break em, and this works without fail. BTW, sry for hi-jackin the thread...

[SHELLEY]

shooting pills is a lot of work
do a whole bunch so you only hafta do the work once :)

j/k

[sky1983]

You need some oc 80s or Opana if you are looking for a good buzz. MScontin do nothing for me, as far as euphoria is concerned.

[bigfootlives]

I hope all you guys keep in mind the fact that you can only dissolve a certain amou8nt of morphine in every mL/cc of solution. In other words huge shots require huge barrels or else the morphine is just sitting in the spoon because the solution is too saturated to take any more of it up regardless of how much heat is used. SO a 240 shot would require definately require a 5 cc barrel because morphine sulfate dissolves at something like 60mg/ml and that's IF you do a good cook.

[EleusisII]

Don't cross tha--- oh, nevermind!

Might I suggest you try an IM shot first? No need to go for the big score, if IM can get you off right now...

[chopstix]

IM'ng pills is fucking asking for it..

[Nu Jerzey Devil]

^^^^^^^^.... big fucking abscess

[The_Highwayman]

I have no experience with shooting morphine, however I do have a lot of experience shooting things, so I would tell you these teo things....

IF you are not an IV user, I would HIGHLY recommend reading, and then rereading the stickys on here for prep of pills> I am not bragging but my ability to prep and the way I shoot and shot up my firend earned me the nickname "Dr. No" and even ifound great tips for HRM REDUCTION...and yes, I did mean to emphasize HARM REDUCTION in those stickys..there is great info there..

Second start small, you can always do a little more, but you can't do a little less once it's in your veins, so I would do 1 30mg pill and work from there..be slow, be safe..IVing is a slippery slope and pills add to the ice on the hill so....BE CAREFUL...

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

That street is a bitch to cross...... I wouldn't even bet on frogger to make it :p

[Citrus]

True that. IV'ing is something I wish I never started, but at the same time, I love it. :( Vicious Cycle.

[Opiyum]

True that. IV'ing is something I wish I never started, but at the same time, I love it. :( Vicious Cycle.

Quit being such a pussy.

[Citrus]

Lol! :D Bahh!!

[Tbird921]

don't im morphine it will just waste them and give you a huge fucking lump on your arm, if your gonna do it, do it right, make sure your in the vein and blood comes in if you gonna shoot pills.

[youwonhundred]

IM'ng pills is fucking asking for it..

What he said. Got a huge fucking scar from that a year ago. Won't be doin THAT again.

[Citrus]

Who the fuck would IM pills? Thats just stupid. I'm sorry if thats insulting anyone, but seriously. Thats like, sticking your finger in an electrical outlet, while your finger is wrapped in tin foil. Fuckin' stupid!

[Cherry's Jubilee]

i think it all must have fallen out of your ass. plugging 300mg should have made you feel something even if your tolerance is enormous. maybe you should try it again. it's kind of an art. it helps if you're an acrobat.

[soggy]

First point, as many others have said, don't start IVing if you can get what you need from eating morphine. Once you start, you will never go back. I am living proof of that, as are many others on this site.

Also, start out with lower dosages, as others have suggested.

I'm in Canada, and we get the MS-Eslons up here (beads in capsules, similar to Kadians).

I started with 60mg, and am now up to 100mg, a couple of times a day.

That seems to work for me, but everyone is different.

I take mine for pain relief by the way, but have to admit I enjoy the brief rush you get from IVing.

Pretty easy to heat up, mash up the paste a little, and get the contents into a small rig.

Be careful and read up on safe injecting techniques and harm reduction on this site.


soggy

[dharma bum]

First point, as many others have said, don't start IVing if you can get what you need from eating morphine. Once you start, you will never go back. I am living proof of that, as are many others on this site.





Damn, I just looked at your avatar and thought you were upstate. Then I read this last sentence and was like,"Noooo!!! Upstate had a relapse." Phew.