View Full Version : Cocaine Test Prompts Germany to Ban RedBull Cola
Paregoric Kid
05-27-2009, 01:56 PM
yeah its true Red Bull Simply Cola contains coca extract which has trace amounts of cocaine in it. Coca-Cola uses decocainated coca leaf extract in their drink too. it is very small trace amounts but its still interesting and I am definitely going to give it a try. its always nice to see new commercial products containing coca. I also want to try Agwa coca liqueur and the new Vin Mariani.
Cocaine test prompts Red Bull removal in Germany
2 days ago
BERLIN (AP) — Six German states have told retailers to stop selling Red Bull Cola energy drinks after a test found a trace amount of cocaine.
The bans started Friday after a sample test conducted by authorities in North Rhine-Westphalia state found 0.4 micrograms per liter in the drink.
Five other states also banned it from shops amid concerns over possible narcotics law violations.
Germany's Federal Institute for Risk Assessment said Monday that the cocaine level was too low to pose a health risk. It planned to produce a more detailed report Wednesday.
Red Bull said its cola is "harmless and marketable in both the U.S. and Europe." It said similar coca leaf extracts are used worldwide as flavoring, and a test it commissioned itself found no cocaine traces.
Madam Oxy
05-27-2009, 02:20 PM
Two of my children (son 23, daughter 21) LOVES Red Bull. My youngest daughter (18) hates the way it makes her all 'jittery'. We just talked about Red Bull last night. Nice coincidence. :p
That stuff is vile and there'd have to be a damn sight more than a trace of C to convince me to drink it.
Still,the German public can go back to drinking something safe......like beer.
Paregoric Kid
05-27-2009, 10:09 PM
its not the regular red bull that has the coca leaf extract but the Red Bull Simply Cola. I tried some tonight and it is pretty good in my opinion. kind of like a cross between Coca-Cola and Moxie.
dharma bum
05-28-2009, 11:44 AM
So, if you drank three liters you would have done 1.2 mg of cocaine during that time? I wonder if one could buy a few cases and do an extract. With the prices of RedBull it'd be cheaper buying the cocaine.
YES THATS RIGHT THATS A VERY GOOD POINT
dharma bum
05-28-2009, 11:48 AM
YES THATS RIGHT THATS A VERY GOOD POINT
Don't know if you were speaking to me but thank you.
chopstix
05-28-2009, 01:39 PM
So, if you drank three liters you would have done 1.2 mg of cocaine during that time? I wonder if one could buy a few cases and do an extract. With the prices of RedBull it'd be cheaper buying the cocaine.
Not so sure about cheaper, I can get a decent hit of cocaine powder for $5..
I don't really understand wanting to try something just because it has trace amounts of coca in it, wanna try coca? Grow it or or go buy some crack (preferably the former).
I like Redbull a lot, the product and the company - they're very involved in "adrenalin" sports, everything from amateur free-skiing and speed-gliding competitions, all the way up to Formula One (go Rubens!!) - I don't drink a lot of it, I don't drink a lot of caffeine, but I almost always drink it during early mornings on my way up skiing, on my way to a race at 5am or just before climbing into the car for a heat..
Ya it tastes like vitamin B laced bile, but I can stomach it and I like the company..
Not so sure about cheaper, I can get a decent hit of cocaine powder for $5..
I don't really understand wanting to try something just because it has trace amounts of coca in it, wanna try coca? Grow it or or go buy some crack (preferably the former).
I like Redbull a lot, the product and the company - they're very involved in "adrenalin" sports, everything from amateur free-skiing and speed-gliding competitions, all the way up to Formula One (go Rubens!!) - I don't drink a lot of it, I don't drink a lot of caffeine, but I almost always drink it during early mornings on my way up skiing, on my way to a race at 5am or just before climbing into the car for a heat..
Ya it tastes like vitamin B laced bile, but I can stomach it and I like the company..
This isn't red bull.It's red bull cola.
chopstix
05-28-2009, 02:30 PM
This isn't red bull.It's red bull cola.
Yeah, I realize the thread is about the cola drink, but both drinks had been mentioned in the thread..
I'd assumed when you referred to the taste, you were referring to the product we have here (tastes like bile), not sure if they carry it over there although knowing Redbull as a company, I'd be surprised if they didn't..
Yeah, I realize the thread is about the cola drink, but both drinks had been mentioned in the thread..
I'd assumed when you referred to the taste, you were referring to the product we have here (tastes like bile), not sure if they carry it over there although knowing Redbull as a company, I'd be surprised if they didn't..
We have red bull and red bull cola,but I've never had either in the U.S.What I have noticed is that U.S. soft drinks are a lot sweeter than the same brand in Europe.
chopstix
05-28-2009, 02:46 PM
We have red bull and red bull cola,but I've never had either in the U.S.What I have noticed is that U.S. soft drinks are a lot sweeter than the same brand in Europe.
I've never seen redbull cola here..
I wouldn't be surprised to hear US soda has twice the fucking sugar of soda in other countries, I very rarely drink the stuff although I drank a lot as a kid..
And don't get me started on high-fructose corn syrup (what they use to sweeten most soda here), they put that poison in all kinds of random shit here, it's no wonder we have the obesity problem that we do..
I've never seen redbull cola here..
I wouldn't be surprised to hear US soda has twice the fucking sugar of soda in other countries, I very rarely drink the stuff although I drank a lot as a kid..
And don't get me started on high-fructose corn syrup (what they use to sweeten most soda here), they put that poison in all kinds of random shit here, it's no wonder we have the obesity problem that we do..
Yeah,HFCS is terrible crap.Try looking for kosher soft drinks,they use natural sugar and I believe there's a pepsi throwback around at the moment which uses sugar too.
chopstix
05-28-2009, 03:32 PM
Yeah,HFCS is terrible crap.Try looking for kosher soft drinks,they use natural sugar and I believe there's a pepsi throwback around at the moment which uses sugar too.
Yeah, lots of alternatives, even with bubbles.. Hansens is good soda made with cane sugar, and it's cheap.
Personally, I think I'm more addicted to this shit than I am opiates, especially "essential/orange-orange." In fact, I just killed one now as a toast to this post..
Yeah, lots of alternatives, even with bubbles.. Hansens is good soda made with cane sugar, and it's cheap.
Personally, I think I'm more addicted to this shit than I am opiates, especially "essential/orange-orange." In fact, I just killed one now as a toast to this post..
Yeah,I've got a serious soda habit going too.I drink a lot of lucozade-don't know if it's available on your side of the pond,but it's the ultimate drug users "energy" drink.
chopstix
05-28-2009, 04:11 PM
Never heard of "lucozade" - gatorade??
When I say "soda" I mean carbonated (I don't know if lucozade is carbonated), some regions in the US call carbonated drinks "pop" or "soda pop;" and (haha) some (southern) call anything carbonated "coke," so you'd ask for a "coke" and the cashier at Chick Filet asks: "what kind?" and you say "sprite" despite the fact that both are trademarked beverages :D
Sorry, I digress, but that's some funny shit to me and no offense to you-know-who-you-are =P
Never heard of "locozade" - gatorade??
When I say "soda" I mean carbonated (I don't know if locozade is carbonated), some regions in the US call carbonated drinks "pop" or "soda pop;" and (haha) some (southern) call anything carbonated "coke," so you'd ask for a "coke" and the cashier at Chick Filet asks: "what kind?" and you say "sprite" despite the fact that both are trademarked beverages :D
Sorry, I digress, but that's some funny shit to me and no offense to you-know-who-you-are =P
Lucozade is carbonated and impossible to describe.Since my liver screwed up I drink a lot of it.
We don't have chick filet,but we do have wendy's which suggests god is mocking us.
PdoubleE
05-28-2009, 04:36 PM
Monster!! That is the junky drink on my side of the pond ;)
chopstix
05-28-2009, 04:46 PM
...we do have wendy's which suggests god is mocking us.
That's funny :D - if all the fast food restaurants suddenly disappeared, I don't think I'd notice..
That's funny :D - if all the fast food restaurants suddenly disappeared, I don't think I'd notice..
I wish I could say the same.I have cravings for some really hideous fast food,KFC,McDonalds that kinda crap.Jesus,that's embarrassing to admit.Andria really hates fast food.So,I have to creep off into the night and lurk in the shadows whilst I wolf it down.
chopstix
05-28-2009, 04:59 PM
Sorry to read that, although muscling dirty mexican heroin and chasing handfuls of sedatives with cheap vodka isn't exactly the pillar of healthy living..
Guess we all have our vices..
Sorry to read that, although muscling dirty mexican heroin and chasing handfuls of sedatives with cheap vodka isn't exactly the pillar of healthy living..
Guess we all have our vices..
We certainly do,man.
Shadowsblaze
05-28-2009, 06:19 PM
Never heard of "lucozade" - gatorade??
When I say "soda" I mean carbonated (I don't know if lucozade is carbonated), some regions in the US call carbonated drinks "pop" or "soda pop;" and (haha) some (southern) call anything carbonated "coke," so you'd ask for a "coke" and the cashier at Chick Filet asks: "what kind?" and you say "sprite" despite the fact that both are trademarked beverages :D
Sorry, I digress, but that's some funny shit to me and no offense to you-know-who-you-are =P
I'll take a "sticky bun" with that.
Paregoric Kid
05-28-2009, 07:55 PM
I really like kosher coca-cola and I've tried kosher pepsi and mountain dew throwback. I think I prefer soda made with sucrose but it is hard to tell the difference. I don't see what people have against HFCS its just 55% fructose and 45% glucose, not all that different from sucrose (regular table sugar). the only reason its used over sucrose is because of subsidies and taxes which make sugar more expensive than HFCS. but now that ethanol made from corn is in higher demand sugar doesn't cost that much more than HFCS, which is why pepsi came out with the throwback brand.
chopstix
05-28-2009, 08:46 PM
I don't see what people have against HFCS its just 55% fructose and 45% glucose, not all that different from sucrose (regular table sugar). the only reason its used over sucrose is because of subsidies and taxes which make sugar more expensive than HFCS. but now that ethanol made from corn is in higher demand sugar doesn't cost that much more than HFCS, which is why pepsi came out with the throwback brand.
It's not just HFCS, refined (table) sugar has to be watched too as does raw sugar; the key is moderation and being aware of *just how many fucking foods* contain high-fructose sweeteners. The problem is that too high of an intake can bring on a hormonal resistance (leptin) that causes you to keep eating when you don't need to, combine that with a shit diet, ie fast food/%99 America, and you get obesity problems.
A good, quick read on fructose intake, leptin and it's relation to diet:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/10/081016074701.htm
Once I started reading labels, I was stunned. Fucking Wheat Thins have HFCS. With all the soda & sugar this country (and some others) consume, not to mention diet and lifestyle, it's no fucking wonder we have 200lb 12 year olds...
No offense to anybody, but I think the consequences of lack of education and indifference on this subject are pretty sad and pretty severe..
jacky
05-29-2009, 12:57 AM
most food/drink products that contain coca leaf are very mild in cocaine content...
for those that are interested in coca, coca flour is sold by various companies outside and inside of the USA...
usually a product called coca flour...
coca flour contains around 1% cocaine....so one gram of coca leaf can contain around 10 milligrams of cocaine...
some people consumed it similiar to kratom....swallowing a mixture of coca flour and water in doses of up to 50 grams or so...
a pound of coca flour costs around 90-120$...although I have heard of specials on kilos at around 150-200$...
a kilo of good quality coca flour can contain up to 10 grams of cocaine if top quality.
so you can see, the price of coca flour is actually pretty cheap, considering the cost of cocaine at 25$-100$ for 3.5 grams
coca flour has a different effect from pure cocaine...the other tropane alkaloids can actually cause some relaxing effects...dry mouth, irritability, and I have heard some people claim that they get better sleep on a little coca flour/tea than sober.
oral cocaine is probably one of the safer ways to consume the compound.
some people who love IV'ing cocaine might actually realize that swallowing 50 grams of coca flour in a milkshake/smoothie can give them a good rush as well....but probably alot safer.
the whole subject of cocaine brings back bad memorys.....
a camping trip at high altitude, in Canada, with some people that had coca flour tea/cookies, rewoken my interest in the substance. coca flour, coca leaf in its natural form, has a beneficial effect at high altitude....the leaf is rich in calcium, and actually tastes somewhat milky, or chalky...but in a good way.
I have seen the red bull cola,...with a smidgen of cocaine in it.
there are all sorts of south american food products/candy that contain small amounts of coca leaf...usually, in amounts too low to really do much.
coca leaf should be legal in the USA...in its natural form, cocaine is probably safer than caffeine for some people.
HowLongIsTooLong
05-29-2009, 03:15 AM
Straight coca tea bags are also available in Bolivia and other SA countries... quite the invigorating brew...
re: coca flour...
Would it be possible to extract that 10 millis out of a kilo of flour? How would one go about it? That would make some interesting reading. I would like to see the raw flour in my cupboard...
D
Paregoric Kid
05-29-2009, 11:13 AM
Jacky: one of the alkaloids in coca leaf is nicotine, that with the action of other alkaloids and their metabolites I can easily see why coca leaf is different from pure cocaine. just like opium is different from morphine, both are good but the effects/strength are a bit different.
and I agree, legalize natural coca leaf in the USA!
chopstix: I believe individuals and parents should just take some self responsibility when it comes to sugar/HFCS/carbohydrate intake. we should be glad we have too much in our (especially the poor's) diets, it is better than living in a nation of starving people. but speaking of HFCS being in a lot of products, have you ever realized how many foods and drinks contain corn products in them?
Synack
05-30-2009, 03:57 AM
Back in high school we'd put a few crushed ms IR's and/or Roxi's in the can - and use it as a chaser.... it's amazing no one died.
some people consumed it similiar to kratom....swallowing a mixture of coca flour and water in doses of up to 50 grams or so...
a pound of coca flour costs around 90-120$...although I have heard of specials on kilos at around 150-200$..
oral cocaine is probably one of the safer ways to consume the compound.
some people who love IV'ing cocaine might actually realize that swallowing 50 grams of coca flour in a milkshake/smoothie can give them a good rush as well....but probably alot safer.
50 grams of powder...wow that's ALOT to swallow!
Now if there was some kind of extraction method here that would be amazing..10 grams of pure 100% cocaine for 200$..I'd buy two hundred kilos of flour.
BTW Surge was the best soda ever :) I miss it.
I've never tried red bull cola, but I like the normal red bull.
I used to drink alot of it..it's great for dope dry mouth imho, but I switched to vitamin water like everyone else.
Red bull is expensive..
Another drink I like is Izze. That's also kind of expensive too but it's REALLY good.
So,I have to creep off into the night and lurk in the shadows whilst I wolf it down.
That made me smile :p
I often do the same when the Wendy's clock strikes midnight and I go on a dreary walk down to my local feed trough.
Have you tried Vault? It's the same as surge basically but with more caffeine. I remember when they were still sorta "test marketing" it it was like 88 cents a bottle, cheaper than regular soda. Good stuff, but I try not to take too much caffeine.
I like Red Bull and Rockstar the best :)
Red Bull is pretty good. I love the taste of those energy drinks, the tang and bitterness, but I wish they had something that tasted like it without the caffeine. I don't THINK the caffeine is that gives them their taste, since although caffeine is bitter it's not a very strong taste, it might be one of the other things they put in every energy drink like the B vitamins.
Yeah the caffiene, regardless of how bitter, is going to be max 300-300mg....compared to 40g of sugar/corn syrup...it's gonna be sweet and tangy as fuck.
And I love it.
Have you tried Rockstar? I feel like it tastes A LOT like Red Bull...that's why I like it.
Rockstar tastes a bit like smarties and smells exactly like smarties. I need to find out what it is that gives energy drinks their distinct taste, assuming it isn't the caffeine. I like the taste, but not the caffeine. Though sometimes caffeine is nice or comes in handy.
EDIT: I just thought about something. Now people are probably gonna laugh at me and say I'm stupid, but rest assured I don't ever have any plans of actually TRYING this. BUT: does anyone know how much cocaine is actually in coca cola and this red bull cola? Say you bought $100 worth of cola, would it be possible to extract the trace amounts of cocaine in it? I don't mean like make it into pure fishscale coke, but just something that you can injest without dying from all the caffeine, sugar, etc. (sodium benzoate too maybe). It would probably be the most expensive hit of cocaine ever, but would it be possible? Why/why not?
Rockstar tastes a bit like smarties and smells exactly like smarties. I need to find out what it is that gives energy drinks their distinct taste, assuming it isn't the caffeine. I like the taste, but not the caffeine. Though sometimes caffeine is nice or comes in handy.
EDIT: I just thought about something. Now people are probably gonna laugh at me and say I'm stupid, but rest assured I don't ever have any plans of actually TRYING this. BUT: does anyone know how much cocaine is actually in coca cola and this red bull cola? Say you bought $100 worth of cola, would it be possible to extract the trace amounts of cocaine in it? I don't mean like make it into pure fishscale coke, but just something that you can injest without dying from all the caffeine, sugar, etc. (sodium benzoate too maybe). It would probably be the most expensive hit of cocaine ever, but would it be possible? Why/why not?
That's what I was wondering about this coca flour \ tea \ powder...the drinks only have very very trace amounts, but if what Jacky said is true about the flour...theres a really nice amount in there...
You can already legally buy coca tea in the US. It's "de-cocanized" but it still produces a noticeable effect because of the amount used.
Pollen
05-30-2009, 10:40 PM
So, if you drank three liters you would have done 1.2 mg of cocaine during that time? I wonder if one could buy a few cases and do an extract. With the prices of RedBull it'd be cheaper buying the cocaine.
Actually, it's 0.4 micrograms per liter, meaning you would have to drink 3000 liters to get 1.2 mg of cocaine. Not really even a significant amount. I think this is all just hype.
and at 1500 liters your eyes pop so it's really not even a very good deal when you think about
Coddfish
05-31-2009, 02:48 AM
governments are ridiculous. red bull cola, the scourge of "world society!" thank god there are smart people in power to protect us regular ol' dumb europeans from drinking it. your government on that side of the pond was probably smart enough to protect you dumb ol' americans before you had a chance to ruin anything.
next time i see a government official, i'm gonna get on my knees and thank them for protecting everyone i know from red bull.
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