Snorting Pills

[Restharrow]

Swim has always taken his pills by mouth, but there is so much written here about snorting, that he is curios and has questions.

Swim heard that Opana is much stronger snorted. Is it stronger when snorted? Swim's opinion is that Oxy effects are felt quicker when snorted, but the overall use of the pill is somewhat wasted. Is Opana different?

Swim has heard that the ER pills can not be crushed because they gel?

How often does someone have to snort a "line" to stay at an even dose? (how long does a snort last?)

Swim's doctor usually shines a light up Swim's nose at monthly visits. Showing up with pills in his nose, may hurt the doctor / patient relationship. How long does the stuff remain visible for a medical exam?

Swim said to tell you guys hello and thanks for all the past help and advice.

Will

[sky1983]

Tell SWIM that he can just split the ER's in half and grind each half on a hose clamp and snort. Works well for this guy I know. Lasts about 12 hours as far as pain management, but comes on nice and strong.

[Restharrow]

Tell SWIM that he can just split the ER's in half and grind each half on a hose clamp and snort. Works well for this guy I know. Lasts about 12 hours as far as pain management, but comes on nice and strong.
So a snorted pill lasts as long as eating an ER?

Also does it clog up his nose?

Thanks!
Will

[EleusisII]

So a snorted pill lasts as long as eating an ER?

Yeah, that's definetly a first one for me!
Everytime I snorted oxys, they lasted way shorter. If a pill have a higher bioavailability intranasaly than orally, I can maybe see them lasting just as long though.

I got one too btw: If a crushed pil gel up in water, can it still be plugged?

[lib.sOCialist]

Yeah, that's definetly a first one for me!
Everytime I snorted oxys, they lasted way shorter. If a pill have a higher bioavailability intranasaly than orally, I can maybe see them lasting just as long though.

I got one too btw: If a crushed pil gel up in water, can it still be plugged?

yeah E, it CAN be plugged, but i found when i had a decent connect for Teva OC's before they got discontinued, that the only real way to get anything out of them (or any gelling pill) besides the Ike method is to parachute the crushed powder so your stomach acids can work one over on that waxy shit, but plugging the goo did work alot better then trying to snort the powder and having it calk up your sinus's for days :(

Swim has always taken his pills by mouth, but there is so much written here about snorting, that he is curios and has questions.

Swim heard that Opana is much stronger snorted. Is it stronger when snorted? Swim's opinion is that Oxy effects are felt quicker when snorted, but the overall use of the pill is somewhat wasted. Is Opana different?

Swim has heard that the ER pills can not be crushed because they gel?

How often does someone have to snort a "line" to stay at an even dose? (how long does a snort last?)

Swim's doctor usually shines a light up Swim's nose at monthly visits. Showing up with pills in his nose, may hurt the doctor / patient relationship. How long does the stuff remain visible for a medical exam?

Swim said to tell you guys hello and thanks for all the past help and advice.

Will

Nasal bio-availability is a two-fold increase compared to oral when it comes to oxymorphone, i dont know if this holds true with the ER's because of the gelling factor, but when i had the 10mg IR's, snorting one to one & 1/2, then eating a burger (high-fat meal) was equal to snorting a whole 80oc in terms of anelgesia but itll be subjective for everyone just like tolerance.

but as a rule of thumb, snorting 20mg's crushed powder of OM (oxymorphone) and eating 30mg's crushed powder (seeing how oral bio-availability) will yeild damn near the same effects, but the snorted dose will last much less longer in my experience then the oral dose. but OM has much more legs then OC regardless ROA.

[Synack]

I'd say the snorted ER dose is at least 2x as strong as an oral dose, for me the snorted dose will last about 10 to 12 hours... good stuff.

Some people say the snorted dose is stronger (which technically, it is) but it varies from person to person.

[EleusisII]

yeah E, it CAN be plugged, but i found when i had a decent connect for Teva OC's before they got discontinued, that the only real way to get anything out of them (or any gelling pill) besides the Ike method is to parachute the crushed powder so your stomach acids can work

I had these weird American OC40ies a few weeks ago. Generic. Purple. Harder than Satans cock. I swear, everytime I started chewing them, I was worried one of my teeth would come out.
And they gelled to high hell!

BUT!

They seemed to work just as well as regular ones when I chewed them, even though I had to swallow fast so my mouth wouldn't be filled with goo.
I could be wrong, but that leads me to believe, that as long as you crush them, the gelling won't really affect oral use. Any thoughts on this?

[Hades]

i crush two 40's with a spoon and snort em. they gel up a bit but its not too bad. hits pretty hard and i redose every 5-6hrs. today is refill day!

[ryan]

Snorting Opana ERs will increase the bio-availability but it won't do jack for the time release.
The pills are made using a gum matrix, so even crushing them will not release all the OM at once...they do gell up in your nose but this is a good thing...you want to keep them in your nose and not drip as long as possible..if it drips down to your stomach them all the goodies are halfed before being able to be absorbed.

BTW, I'm getting some green 20mg ERs soon...
I have a plan to try and get around the time release by keeping them in a hot small jar filled with water for 8-12 hours...from what I've read it should work...has anyone tried this before? I think I am getting two of them, so what I am going to try first is keeping one pill in tact (not crushing it at all or removing the green coating) and putting it in the water jar and then maybe crushing the other one and doing the same.

I have a weird feeling that crushing the pill does something weird that makes injecting impossible no matter how long you have it sit in the water but I could be wrong either way :-\

[MEKONE]

IMO nasally Opana IR's are GREAT,and can hit hard but they DON'T last long at all (or at least as long as you'd like them to last)and you need to keep re-dosing.

Orally they last longer and you really don't need to re-dose,your just have to fight the monster that wants to put things up your nose as that in itself can become ritualistic.

Now,the nose thing can only be done once in awhile and NOT an everyday thing as the meds will SURELY run out WAAAAAY before the next visit.

Now,the nose thing can only be done once in awhile and NOT an everyday thing as the meds will SURELY run out WAAAAAY before the next visit.
:eek: DAMN!!! Should have taken my own advise :(.

[bronyraur]

even though I had to swallow fast so my mouth wouldn't be filled with goo.

I always knew there was something *different* about you...

[Ickyuck]

I always knew there was something *different* about you...

Bwahaha! http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4041/evillaugh.gif


I'm on board with what everyone said about Opana here. Snorting it is pretty incredible vs. Oral consumption. I'd give it a go. It makes a nice, neat fine powder once you get rid of the green coating. However, don't make it a habit as your doc does that nose inspection.

[beseder]

Now,the nose thing can only be done once in awhile and NOT an everyday thing as the meds will SURELY run out WAAAAAY before the next visit.


aint that the truth...and it's awfully hard to break that habit once it starts. i know you were talking about the IRs, but my daily dosing for ER is to swallow my first pill with my morning coffee, and split the second 20mg pill in half for putting up the nose over the course of the day. the only reason i'm not still taking a 3rd pill and running out at 20 days is because my PM doc increased quantity of my breakthrough meds...unfortunately i'm only getting 10/325 percs which i eat like candy.

[hydro chris]

of all the pills i snorted, opana er last the longest.. an easy 6 to 9 hours:)

[Tony]

Snorting Opana IR one time will make you never want to
eat one again! They do have a lot of crappy filler
powder in them. But it is very much worth it IMHO!

That Opana IR is sweet! You will need to redose more
often but that depends on how much your original dose
was!

I have yet to try the ER.

[doctor diesel]

I've snorted smack powder a few times, and recently I crushed up and snorted a coupla bupes; I've never felt anything from the snortage.
Tell me, am I the only person here for whom snorting just doesn't do anything? Could I be snorting wrong somehow? (I don't really see how you can get it wrong).


Doc

[beseder]

you can definitely do it "wrong", if you snort too shallowly or too deeply and it won't get in or stay in your nasal cavity.

[Shadowsblaze]

can definitely do it "wrong", if you snort too shallowly or too deeply and it won't get in or stay in your nasal cavity.


You have to snort slowly and you can aim it around the nose. As far as cleaning Q-tips are a must especially with the roxi with the V on it they like burn into the tissue. Mali's gel more and clean out easier in clumps that still contain active if you don't spray water (purified) when they dry out in your nose, same with the vintage. The A-215 clean out the easiest. Recommend don't snort the day before and when in the shower suck water up nose, you get used to it.

[MEKONE]

I'm sure many here have experience with the snortage factor but for those that don't or have a hard time doing this,what alot of people don't realize is that the idea of snorting is to let the substance stay in the nasal/sinus cavity so that it dissolves and is absorbed by the nasal capillaries.
Alot of people think that the harder they snort the better it gets absorbed.
By snorting too hard you get a Drip which is basically a waste of goods because it drips down from your nose into your throat and is then swallowed.If this happens then you probably would have gotten more out of just swallowing the whole pill instead of crushing it.
I would recommend that anyone that has a hard time with this do a search for the nasal spray method.This is very effective and may be a bit easier,but can also be done wrong if too much is sprayed at 1 time.

[Restharrow]

Does anyone know how long the snorted material is visible for a medical inspection?

thanks!

will