Taking as recommended vs snorting

[LongKissGoodNite]

So I have resolved to lower my tolerance and do some positive work in the reduction department (again). My saga of wanting to quit so so lame and comical im a parody of myself.

So anyway, I wanted to know .. since my normal ROA is snooting the powder, if I wanted to ween down would it be smart to swollow a small peice of the pill? My concern is (and I realize its irrational) that if I swallow the pill bit that I wont feel right because of the release.

The other reason is so I can break my addiction rituals/habits. If I can stop snorting then I can focus more on trying to reduce responsibly and ultimately get clean.

Is there a better way to taper without snorting?

[lib.sOCialist]

i found when tapering with oxy, it is so much easier to keep to a taper, if you eat your dose, you definitely dont get a rush or high, but its almost like low doses of bup, i just dont feel sick, but im not high at the same time. but it takes ALOT of self-control/integrity for me to do this, since snorting itself is a main part of my addiction/ritual.

and if you are serious about tapering, make a plan/schedule and STICK to it at all costs.

-soc
nod on (or maintain on, in your sit.)

[upstate_007]

Swallowing the pills may break you of your snorting fixation, but more of the oxycodone gets into your system by taking them orally. Double edged sword.

[Dan Steely]

It should help you to eat it even though you get more by doing so. Tolerance gets pushed up by compulsive dosing imo and sniffing is pretty damn compulsive. Try to look at it like medicine. Set goals.

[LongKissGoodNite]

Thank you for the replies. Yes the snorting is VERY compulsive. For example I will do some in the morning before work and I should be good until 3 in the afternoon (I mean really I could go even farther but it would be a little uncomfortable). Anyway I find that sometimes Ill snoot some at noon .. and this is after having dosed at 10 am .. its completely unnecessary and wasteful.

But then get this .. If I have a *good* day and hold out until later .. then I have a surplus in the evening .. and so instead of proceeding with a nice pat on the back ... I end up ripping them all and coping a fat nod. Which then of course causes me to pass out ... loose real REM sleep .. wake up late for work .. and realize I have nothing for the next day.

Yes .. I AM an idiot .. but I'm working on finding a new road to take .. its not going as well as I'd like.

[Dan Steely]

It's not easy but it is doable and worth it.

[jersey_emt]

If the act of snorting and/or the quicker onset of snorting is a part of your addiction, I would suggest doing two 'tapers'. The first 'taper' would be continuing your current dosage and schedule, but gradually increase the amount you are taking orally and decrease the amount you are snorting. Then, once you are comfortable with 1/2 of the dose snorted and 1/2 swallowed, start the second taper (the real taper), where you actually decrease your overall dose.

Let's say you have a daily habit of 180mg oxycodone, all snorted. That amounts to one 30mg Roxicodone snorted every four hours, a pretty typical habit -- not a huge one, but not a small one either.

Here would be some sample tapering steps (how long you stay at each step -- one day, two days, one week, whatever, is up to you):



27.5mg snorted, 2.5mg oral every 4 hours
25mg snorted, 5mg oral every 4 hours
22.5mg snorted, 7.5mg oral every 4 hours
20mg snorted, 10mg oral every 4 hours
17.5mg snorted, 12.5mg oral every 4 hours
15mg snorted, 15mg oral every 4 hours (*) You are now at equal dosing for both snorting and swallowing! Time to move on to the actual tapering down)
12.5mg snorted, 15mg oral every 4 hours
10mg snorted, 15mg oral every 4 hours
7.5mg snorted, 15mg oral every 4 hours
5mg snorted, 15mg oral every 4 hours
2.5mg snorted, 15mg oral every 4 hours
0mg snorted, 15mg oral every 4 hours
0mg snorted, 12.5mg oral every 4 hours
0mg snorted, 10mg oral every 4 hours
0mg snorted, 7.5mg oral every 4 hours
0mg snorted, 5mg oral every 4 hours
0mg snorted, 5mg oral every 6 hours
0mg snorted, 5mg oral every 8 hours
0mg snorted, 2.5mg oral every 6 hours
0mg snorted, 2.5mg oral every 8 hours
0mg snorted, 2.5mg oral every 12 hours
0mg snorted, 2.5mg oral every 16 hours
0mg snorted, 2.5mg oral every 24 hours

At this point, you are taking only 2.5mg of oxycodone orally once daily. You should be able to stop that CT without any discomfort.

[LongKissGoodNite]

Holy shit. Thank you JersyEMt ;0)

And let me be clear .. im not getting high. I havent got high in about a year and my habit is costing me about 100 bucks a day. I can hear yall cringe while you read this. But its a trap. I dont know what else to do.

I will give this a shot. I need to stop this insanity .. its ruined me.

I also have a single 8mg suboxone tab .. would that help me for jumping off? or should I stay away from it?

[Restharrow]

Are you trying to get back on a pain med. schedule? I have got on/off pain med. schedules (more than 1 time) and it helps to get your doctor to switch you to morphine (almost no euphoria). Its really hard to change habits with your favorite drug.

If you are trying to quit totaly, IMO the best way is to eat the UN-crushed pills -- even if you have to cut them into halves or fourths to taper. Use a fresh razor blade.

It may be a sinus problem I have, but snorted Oxy was never worth it to me. IMO oral Oxy (crushed and eaten) is 5 to 6 times stronger than snorting. That does not make sense, because of the "drip" but that is my unofficial findings.

If you are quitting, start eating the pills, cutting them in to smaller pieces with a razor blade. Take 1 every 12 hours and don't get off the schedule. Snorting may be part of the addiction problem. I associate eating pills with being sick, and I associate snorting as wild euphoria, parties, etc.

Good luck!
Will

[PiLL CLiNToN]

Take as directed and emt props to you that sounds like a really good taper....stay strong swim found that tooten em sted of eatin was a rush that lasted 30 mins or so than its just wellness (depending on tolerance) but orally is the way to go in general to swim its like smoking crack MORE more MORE MORRRREEEEE it is NEVER enough but swim said to try eating felt 100x better than snootinem

[duck]

You should be able to stop that CT without any discomfort.

You're kidding, right?

[jcmanny]

Good luck on your taper, it seems to work for some people. I've tried a few times to taper but in my heart I didn't want to stop.

I think most of know about the "not getting high part" which is one of the real downsides to opiates IMO (tolerance). I agree with others, swallowing the pills (or parts of pills) will be your best bet.

[jersey_emt]

You're kidding, right?

From 2.5mg a day? No, not kidding.