View Full Version : Im excited about opiates again :(
satori
06-05-2006, 03:36 PM
!!!!!!EXCITED!!!!!
jwalm
06-05-2006, 04:23 PM
same here!!!!
i just got pods!!!!!!
its been months:D
Opiyum
06-05-2006, 06:07 PM
This is good to hear from any mouth.
jacky
06-05-2006, 06:18 PM
yeah, I am excited to be researching a uncommon " common" spice plant that has purported kappa opioid, mu opioid and dopaminergic qualities...
the suspected components were extracted and isolated to their family comlex, meaning that I suspect several if not three similiar compounds are isolated as one homgenous blend.
I vaporized 5 approximate milligrams of this material and was very excited. major dopaminergic action...possible kappa opioid effects commence as well.
*quick acting...20 second come on...5 minute peak....20 minute drift down...reversal of physical effects after 20 minutes.
*sweaty hands/feet, tingling hair follicles
*stimulant activity that borders on the uncomfortable at times, especially is the experience is repeated several more times within a 2 hours period
* mental effects and some somatice effects that I think MAY have kappa opioid agonist origin..though MUCH milder than say salvinorin a or ketamine.
*I dont percieve mu opioid agonist effect , but that could be covered easily by the fact that I use mu agonists on a daily basis...I know in the data that also the mu agonist effect is noticed to be with the aqueous portion of the methanol extracted amount. lacking specific data from the chemist who isolated this complex of diterpenes I wonder if this mu activity could have been left in the marck...the leftovers basically. if so that would be PERFECT, cause who wants their mu effect coupled with a kappa effect anyway?, it seems that it just leads to diminished mu action in other compounds that have "complex" activity.. or duo-trio receptor activity..
I am going to reveal the specific source plant in the near future, once I have some source and extraction methods more outlined.
I have tried to tell people about this interesting plant before...and a few people just naysayed the whole affair as most likely not going to produce anything of interest.
once I sat immersed in a euphoric body buzz, with sweaty hands sweaty feet, emotions expanded, mind racing and morphing, heart comfortably numb but working hard, I knew that I was to be rewarded.. for 5 minutes or so I was intently focused on the feeling of floating in a matrix of energy, much like In experience with nitrous oxide, or some kappa opioid agonists or nmda agonists, at this same time I also felt the power of awe, and reverance for my humble but miraculous reality, similiar perhaps to the entactogen effects of other drugs that leave the mind lucid enough to appreciate the "mundane ".
Was I the first person in the history of plant research to feel the "full"power of this plants potential as a mind-moving, heart expanding agent? or was I succumbing to my own endorphins excitement pulse of the novelty of the moment? my own brain embellishing what will turn out to be just another light, lifting dopaminergic experience void of any effect of the higher faculties of some kappa opioid stimulation (leary's 8th circuit concept?)...
I hope there is some kappa effect.
my interests do not lie with daily forays into dopaminerigic stimulation, at best occasional. My interest lies with the wierd, the wonderful world of euphoric opiates/opioids, the strange mental effects of the kappa opioids that cause some novel insights and experiences..
Ill get back to this thread with more information and experiences in the near future.
cronosaegis
06-05-2006, 06:49 PM
Well, dammit, get back to us quick !
zombiewoof23
06-05-2006, 08:12 PM
You rule Jacky! You're not hanging out with Shulgin are you? Sounded like a positive experience for the most part. Can't wait to hear the rest!
exitwound
06-05-2006, 08:22 PM
I suppose that I could say the same, having been moved from the long-acting morphines (Kadian, MS Contin) that I've been on for six months to OxyContin for the first time. It's working much better, and because the dosage is higher on top of the only partial cross-tolerance, I feel much better overall. No more morphine nightmares, less fatigue, much better pain control. For a chronic pain sufferer, it doesn't get much more exciting than that :-)
jacky
06-05-2006, 08:40 PM
so there is a major difference for you now that you are taking oxys huh exitwound? morphine nightmares? I think I have definitely had methadone nightmares, heroin nightmares, but not morphine nightmares.
that is great though, nothing like HAVING to take opiates to make the side effects a real BUMMER.
take care and good luck.
exitwound
06-05-2006, 10:13 PM
so there is a major difference for you now that you are taking oxys huh exitwound? morphine nightmares? I think I have definitely had methadone nightmares, heroin nightmares, but not morphine nightmares.
that is great though, nothing like HAVING to take opiates to make the side effects a real BUMMER.
take care and good luck.
That's for damn sure. I had pretty much nightmares/anxiety dreams exclusively, almost every night, on morphine (MS Contin). Maybe it's because I was on q8 (3x per day, one right before bed) dosing that I had more morphine, more constantly, in my system than some other morphine users....
thanks for the well-wishes. so far so good. I'm down to 1/3 the breakthrough hydrocodone I was using before, and my pain levels are down. not always sub-5 which is my target, but usually not above 8.0 for extended periods which is a big deal. I was spending a lot of time in the high 8's and 9's for a while there leading up to being switched to the OC80's.
Badly Drawn Girl
06-05-2006, 10:37 PM
!!!!!!EXCITED!!!!!
:) Me too! I went to pick up my script for my percs today and they should have been dated for the 10th. My dr NEVER fills early. But my doctor is on maternity leave. Bahahaha! I checked the date and about fell over when I saw 6/5/06. Woot! I was feeling like shit early today, down and depressed. Now I'm back in the saddle again. Back to the binge, knowing full well that soon I will be out and miserable again. Hmm... now I'm bringing myself down.
slugbone
06-05-2006, 10:53 PM
:) Me too! I went to pick up my script for my percs today and they should have been dated for the 10th. My dr NEVER fills early. But my doctor is on maternity leave. Bahahaha! I checked the date and about fell over when I saw 6/5/06. Woot! I was feeling like shit early today, down and depressed. Now I'm back in the saddle again. Back to the binge, knowing full well that soon I will be out and miserable again. Hmm... now I'm bringing myself down.
that's why i try to live in the moment as much as possible. i hate getting down on myself for shit like that, although i can't help it sometimes. the joy of a full bottle doesn't last long, i tried to enjoy it as much as i could. when i was able to get percocet or oxy on a regular basis that is. settling in for the night, watching star trek and getting obscenely high. ah, the good times.
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