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alowishus
06-04-2006, 10:23 PM
OK just so ya know, if you let's say just used pod's or tea from pods, that will show in the standard UA (urinary analysis) as morph and will be a big positive for drugs....BUT some of the new tests willl see it as "poppy" the big brewhaha with the lady Dr. that got popped for morph when she had had some poppy muffins that morning; she (and her hubby Dr.) fought it and had it wiped out; she WON.

Now what happened is the GC/MS (Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrometry) is the monster that can see all and tell all, so if you pop positive for drugs it's then sent to the GS/MS *IF* the company that is paying for the test WANTS IT TO BE, some just say if you tested for drugs, you tested for drugs....you don't get the job, of course they never tell you you tested positive, saves them money. The ones that do send the screens to the GC/MS then get back EVERYTHING that's in your pee and in exact amounts!! And don't think they don't know about pod tea or seed tea. So back to the thing, the GC/MS could tell that the good Dr. had had just WHOLE poppy seeds, where it can also tell if you have had PODS!!! Pods have a different "make up" data then the seeds and also what matters the most is the levels of the substance, if you are using, you can't make them believe you just had a poppy seed bagel, aint gonna work.

What used to not be part of a standard test was looking for Hydro or Oxy (vikes or OC's) which now IS standard on most tests, you can't tell them you have a Rx for OC's when you really do, but you've been using pods, you see you'll pop for morph AND Oxy. They'll say OK about the OC's but what about the Morphine in your system......? eh.....? Fucked.

So what I've been doing is researching for my own up coming UA, w/ the help of a computer and a little help from an old friend in NY, he runs a lab, and no he can't help you, (me either) he's not going to jail and leaving his family just because you fucked up and smoked some weed when you KNEW in two days you had your probation report hearing, stupid fucker.....you know who you are.

Anyhoo, it's a lose lose situation, if you have the time and the willing to detox DO IT, if not one of the hidden bladder bags w/ clean urine could help, depending on what situation your in, some places use two way mirrors, so you think no one is watching, look for it in what you sign before you go in. And remember they don't have to always tell you, are you going in voluntarily......? And if it's for legal issues they can pat you down, (feeling the bladder bag) on top of someone standing there looking at your stuff as you go, been in the service??? You know then. Got a lady in front of you looking at you through a window and a guy on your side trying not to be to obvious about it.

I would of course rather not take one at all, as I do believe they are invasive, but I really want the J.O.B.

Good luck

alowishus
07-08-2006, 01:50 PM
Well I failed, they found.......gasp.......morphine in my pee. I had two pods two days before. Being as I had had an operation on my toe two days before and I was on all sorts of meds (none containing morph of course) I have until noon Mon. to get them the reason, on letter head from the Dr's office, why I have it in me before they report to my JOB site that I failed the screen.....should have just gotten the bladder bag, but they knew I was on other meds so if they didn't find those, I'm sure some eyebrows would have been raised.

So now I'm fucked and well really just fucked.

chemboy7
07-08-2006, 02:16 PM
That sucks Alowishus, UAs are an invasion of personal privacy. Just because someone has drug metabolites in their system doesn't mean they are working under the influence. I call bullshit on the whole scene.

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6968/copwatchingyoupee4lq.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The last time I had to drop (a very long time ago, and I knew I was gonna fail) I looked the bastard right in the eye while I was pissing and said something like "You must really feel fulfilled with your life watching people piss all day for the sake of a losing war" I think I may have also called him a fag... "just doing my job, sir" whatever you fucking pawn. If I never have to take a supervised piss again it will be too soon.

HistoryofMadness
07-08-2006, 11:57 PM
You could always try saying you had poppy seed muffins. My girlfriend failed a UA once for morphine, but she seriously doesn't use opiates (they make her fall asleep). We couldn't figure it out for 2 days, and then I started doing research and found that these muffins can cause a fail.

She went back and they said "we asked you if you'd had anything" and she asked them how the fuck was she supposed to know that muffins would make you fail a UA. They screened the same sample again and the levels were low enough to be considered a false positive.

You could just say you eat poppy seed bagels every morning for breakfast, and you have for more than a year or something. Its worth a shot, I say.

alowishus
07-09-2006, 12:16 AM
You could always try saying you had poppy seed muffins. My girlfriend failed a UA once for morphine, but she seriously doesn't use opiates (they make her fall asleep). We couldn't figure it out for 2 days, and then I started doing research and found that these muffins can cause a fail.

She went back and they said "we asked you if you'd had anything" and she asked them how the fuck was she supposed to know that muffins would make you fail a UA. They screened the same sample again and the levels were low enough to be considered a false positive.

You could just say you eat poppy seed bagels every morning for breakfast, and you have for more than a year or something. Its worth a shot, I say.

I'll just fire bomb the whole place, it's good I haven't had any drama in a long time, a little blood pumping, fist clenching, hole in the wall, boot the cat for that stupid look....

WarmCyanide
07-10-2006, 02:00 PM
Sorry to hear about your recent struggles, Alowishus. Sucks raw anus.
Benjamin franklin was a major ope head. Imagine if he was alive today, got piss tested and failed. Oh wait... Those gas chromatograph machines they use require electricity. that's the "key" you see. sorry.
Who was it that said "the only urine test you'll get out of me is a taste test??

Good Luck!!

alowishus
07-12-2006, 12:27 AM
They are fucking me around big time, saying I need such and such paperwork from the Dr. on the letterhead from the Dr. office faxed over to the screening place (what med's I was on); well the little girly said she would fax it, that was fri, today I find the screening place didn't get it, (or so they say) the Dr's office said they faxed it, so now they want me to go and get the paper from the DR. office and drive it to the screening place and oh ya maybe make me give an other sample while I'm there.....WTF you bunch of fucking prats.

Eat a bowl of dick.

Thats like 3 hours round trip travel time. Too say nothing of the 2nd sample, could find enough drugs in that one....??
I've already got "the Wizz" on the way, fuckers.

Hey anyone reading this that is invovled; working that the drug screen or Dr. office or where I am trying to get a J.O.B.....FUCK OFF ALL OF YA. Take your 55k a yr, complete medical coverage, day care, and the best work environment I've ever seen and PPPPPPLEASE let me in!!!!!!!:o

These screening assholes are killing me

WarmCyanide
07-12-2006, 11:26 AM
They probably fuckin goose step out of their cars and into the laboratory:mad:

alowishus
07-22-2006, 06:52 PM
I guess I forgot to post this w/ all the other drama going on.....they "rescinded" (big H.R. word) the job offer. Of course after I'd already worked four days, at least got some cash for that. Of course also they didn't tell me why, in FL they don't have too.
She called and said,
"I'm sorry but we have to rescind the offer"
....long pause she's waiting for me to say something....
" do you have any questions for me....?"
I say in a just got woke up for this shit tone of voice....
"no."
.........
click.