Who is SWIM or what does it stand for?

[fiiendin]

just wondering hehe ;)

[Frontier Psychiatrist]

"someone who isn't myself"

[stvip]

Someone Who Injects Morphine, duh.

[blackdog]

this is the reason why newbies shouldnt be allowed to speak for the first 6 months after joining group:rolleyes:

[slugbone]

this is the reason why newbies shouldnt be allowed to speak for the first 6 months after joining group:rolleyes:

that's worth a ding reputation points straight up blackdog

[Opiyum]

Sometimes on
Wednesdays
I
Mastubate

Suck my
Wanker you
Ignorant
Moron

[Coddfish]

skanky
white trash
inbred
mongoloid

[blackdog]

thank you slugbone
and opiyum/codfish ........well what can i say???????
you guy out doo yer selfs at times lol:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[chemboy7]

SWIM = Someone Who Isn't Me

UTFSE = Use The Fucking Search Engine

[kiwistoner]

SICKO
WESTCOAST
INBRED
MALE
HOLY SHIT IM SWIM HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Coddfish]

this is the reason why newbies shouldnt be allowed to speak for the first 6 months after joining group:rolleyes: The one thing I'll say about this is that this guy has been around for a while, longer than I and longer than 6 months. I also assumed it was a newbie,given the question, but I just remembered his avatar from a while back. What's up with that?

scabby
web-toed
insectile
magafool

[fiiendin]

ok well EXCUuUuUuUuUuUuSE ME :rolleyes:

[fiiendin]

The one thing I'll say about this is that this guy has been around for a while, longer than I and longer than 6 months. I also assumed it was a newbie,given the question, but I just remembered his avatar from a while back. What's up with that?


well, i've been reading on poppies.org long before i even posted here but i just didnt know what SWIM was. I thought SWIM was the name of some guy everyone liked to use to forgo responsibility but it implied your own self in the opiod community hehe

[Coddfish]

I actually wasn't aimin that stuff at you, fiiend. I was just playin around. :) I do think that the whole swim thing is mentioned on the forum rules, which is a good read.

[Pointy]

I still don't get the swim thing. Is it for plausable denial in case of a search order? Is it to throw off suspician from the police? Is it simple denial? Most of us who are still using can't stand close scrutiny if investigated. Simply saying "swim" will only throw off a mind-numbingly stupid investagator. Cops are not the brightest guys in the world but few are foolish enough to believe that 'swim" is actually another person and not the writer of the tale.

Read over some of the way people use swim. To me, its so obvious to me that they are talking about themselves that i can't imagine a judge saying to a cop or prosecuter " It can't be that personl, he said it was someone who isn't me. Search order denied" . Does anyone actually believe swim offers any real proctection?

[vanilla_mlkshake2007]

I myself remember readimg about SWIM getting her ass grabbed everytime she tried to score heroin and I felt so bad for her.I also kept wondering to myself who this SWIM person was for everyone to know him/her so well and care about this person so much.I'm so glad that when I was a N00bie I read the forum rules or furum format and found out before I asked the question cuz I just woulda felt so embarrassed.Its not that big of a deal though I mean but if you read the rules b-4 you post you maybe wouldn't embarass yourself like you did and I almost did!

[ZodiacKiller]

I've read in a number of places that no matter how incriminating you may be about yourself, that nothing you post (via the written word---pics are a different story) on the internet can be used against you in court. Something to do with it all being heresay (like, you were just bragging to show off), and thusly inadmissable.

Now if you were talking about a murder or trafficking kilos of dope or something, it might (probably would) make any trolling LE stand up and take notice and search for more info about you at the very least.

Anyone here have the actual legal knowledge in regards to this? 'Cause I'm real interested in knowing just exactly what the law is on this kind of thing. I think the whole SWIM analogy is kinda dumb and I hate using it.


ZK

[HistoryofMadness]

I've read in a number of places that no matter how incriminating you may be about yourself, that nothing you post (via the written word---pics are a different story) on the internet can be used against you in court. Something to do with it all being heresay (like, you were just bragging to show off), and thusly inadmissable.

Now if you were talking about a murder or trafficking kilos of dope or something, it might (probably would) make any trolling LE stand up and take notice and search for more info about you at the very least.

Anyone here have the actual legal knowledge in regards to this? 'Cause I'm real interested in knowing just exactly what the law is on this kind of thing. I think the whole SWIM analogy is kinda dumb and I hate using it.


ZK

ZK this is certainly not true... there are a lot of urban legend-type legal stories and info all over the place these days, thanks mostly TO the internet. I'm not a lawyer, but gov/law/politics is my industry and I've had a lot of legal training. I'll get you solid proof this isn't true if you want, but if you don't care about the details just know its not and go from there.

-H

[shaunclo]

S - spiking
W - while
I - in
M - motion

Thats my new moto

[shaunclo]

ZK this is certainly not true... there are a lot of urban legend-type legal stories and info all over the place these days, thanks mostly TO the internet. I'm not a lawyer, but gov/law/politics is my industry and I've had a lot of legal training. I'll get you solid proof this isn't true if you want, but if you don't care about the details just know its not and go from there.

-H

So what your saying History is that everything we are typing here CAN and WILL be used against us in a court of law if THEY wanted to?? Please elaborate, I think I am wetting my shorts right now.

[doctor diesel]

Err... can the moderators please pull all my posts from the last 18 months off the server please....

Doc Diesel

[blackdog]

S - spiking
W - while
I - in
M - motion

Thats my new moto


S-sticking/spikeing
W-white/china
I-in
M-my arm

[blackdog]

just wondering hehe ;)


yo my fiendin friend.no flaming going on here
its all good, peace and love da/dawgg:cool:

[exitwound]

Err... can the moderators please pull all my posts from the last 18 months off the server please....

Doc Diesel

why?! anything wrong man? :confused:

[HistoryofMadness]

So what your saying History is that everything we are typing here CAN and WILL be used against us in a court of law if THEY wanted to?? Please elaborate, I think I am wetting my shorts right now.

Hehe naw I was just telling ZK that SOME shit can be used from the internet... I wasn't necessarily talking about the whole SWIM thing...

Its hard to say with SWIM. I don't think that its really so sneaky and smart that it would fool many people for very long. As for culpability, usually you have to be committing an act of crime or negligence, and technically its not illegal to DO drugs or to BE a drug addict in the US. Its illegal to buy and sell, because of the fact that congress used the 'interstate commerce' clause to regulate drugs.... and by extension (and case law, etc) its illegal to possess because one would assume you had to buy or sell it. And don't try the 'it was given to me free' or 'I grew it myself' (especially the second, for fuck's sake, unless you want your house taken)... the courts have also extended the power of interstate commerce to both (god please don't ask me to get into all this unless you REALLY care).

I could go on with the SWIM thing but I haven't really made my mind up, and as far as I know the courts haven't visited this thing yet, so for now things are ok.

[chemboy7]

Hehe naw I was just telling ZK that SOME shit can be used from the internet... I wasn't necessarily talking about the whole SWIM thing...

Its hard to say with SWIM. I don't think that its really so sneaky and smart that it would fool many people for very long. As for culpability, usually you have to be committing an act of crime or negligence, and technically its not illegal to DO drugs or to BE a drug addict in the US. Its illegal to buy and sell, because of the fact that congress used the 'interstate commerce' clause to regulate drugs.... and by extension (and case law, etc) its illegal to possess because one would assume you had to buy or sell it. And don't try the 'it was given to me free' or 'I grew it myself' (especially the second, for fuck's sake, unless you want your house taken)... the courts have also extended the power of interstate commerce to both (god please don't ask me to get into all this unless you REALLY care).

I could go on with the SWIM thing but I haven't really made my mind up, and as far as I know the courts haven't visited this thing yet, so for now things are ok.

Your absolutely right, it is technically not illegal to have drugs, or drug metabolites, in your body (unless they pop you for "public intoxication" or DUI or you are on probation with stipulations including U.A.s) it is the possession and sales that determine legal reprimands. Although I still do not put much stock into this whole "SWIM" thing as a means of detering accountability... it is probably a good idea to not post anything under any psuedonym that implies illegal activity. I mean, if you have a question just ask it without a protagonist as a general inquiry. I sincerly doubt that the posting of such information soley (as long as you are not talking about trafficing/dealing or bragging about felonious quantities of illegal substances) will draw the vultures to you... although, if you ever got into drug related trouble in the future I suppose that they could use your incriminating post/threads as evidence to defame you in court.

[blackdog]

Hehe naw I was just telling ZK that SOME shit can be used from the internet... I wasn't necessarily talking about the whole SWIM thing...

Its hard to say with SWIM. I don't think that its really so sneaky and smart that it would fool many people for very long. As for culpability, usually you have to be committing an act of crime or negligence, and technically its not illegal to DO drugs or to BE a drug addict in the US. Its illegal to buy and sell, because of the fact that congress used the 'interstate commerce' clause to regulate drugs.... and by extension (and case law, etc) its illegal to possess because one would assume you had to buy or sell it. And don't try the 'it was given to me free' or 'I grew it myself' (especially the second, for fuck's sake, unless you want your house taken)... the courts have also extended the power of interstate commerce to both (god please don't ask me to get into all this unless you REALLY care).

I could go on with the SWIM thing but I haven't really made my mind up, and as far as I know the courts haven't visited this thing yet, so for now things are ok.


no sir i dont have any idea how those drugs got there in my body.it musta been aliens?

[HistoryofMadness]

it is probably a good idea to not post anything under any psuedonym that implies illegal activity. I mean, if you have a question just ask it without a protagonist as a general inquiry. I sincerly doubt that the posting of such information soley (as long as you are not talking about trafficing/dealing or bragging about felonious quantities of illegal substances) will draw the vultures to you... although, if you ever got into drug related trouble in the future I suppose that they could use your incriminating post/threads as evidence to defame you in court.

I do think you are correct, buying, selling, and driving around town with 4 kilos, etc. are probably not good. Also a large amount combined with firearms is really not good to talk about. Most of this site seems to be centered around experience, prices, dos and don'ts, etc. so none of that really qualifies.

As for using posts in court, if its some small misdemeanor or even a minor felony I wouldn't think anyone was going out of their way to find this site. The only time is maybe if someone files a civil suit and there's a high powered high payed overeager lawyer digging all the shit he can. Or maybe if its a capital case or a federal case etc.

My main curiosity comes from whether this would ever appear in a background check for a federal gov job... they are pretty fucking thorough. Especially some type of clearance.

[Scarlettnight]

If one were applying for a top secert clerance in the military they would start with your med records among other things. If you get untold amounts of opiods then you would probably be turned down. Anyone here ever been pinged by L3COM? Most of my family carries the TSSC and you would be surprised how little it takes for them to yank that away. But again unless you are talking about getting 4 kilos or your really efficient Meth Lab. The fact is they really aren't that interested in us.

[blackdog]

The one thing I'll say about this is that this guy has been around for a while, longer than I and longer than 6 months. I also assumed it was a newbie,given the question, but I just remembered his avatar from a while back. What's up with that?

scabby
web-toed
insectile
magafool


i sorry i musta been fooled by the question and took it fer granted that it was a newbieish type of thing to ask.
either that or i was just fucked up beyond all recognition and didnt give a ####!! no no it wasnt that either.....oh nevermind mybad

peace da/dawgg:rolleyes:

[Coddfish]

I wasn't aimin' that at you either, bd. Really just playin with the swim thing. Sorry for anyone who thought I was being an ass.
Hmmmm... no I'm not.

small-
weenied
illiterate
magistrate

[shaunclo]

S - shaunclo
W - wants an
I - infinite supply of
M - morphine

S - shaunclo
W - will
I - inherite (sp)
M - mother earth

[poonwhalla]

See
What
I
Made
now picture a little kid pointing to his poop in the toilet.

[ZodiacKiller]

Stop
Whining
Incessantly,
Motherfuckers



SWIZK

[HistoryofMadness]

Stop please for the love of god
With this endless, meaningless, beating of a dead horse,
Idiotic
Meme

:bath:(I'm sorry is my asshole showing?)

[fiiendin]

OK now, what does "lol" mean? ;)

[fiiendin]

its alright guys no hard feelings.
But what's wrong with asking questions that has been answered before? It might seem ignorant to you but who the hell knows everything in the world. I mean what if you go up to a group of scientists and you ask them a simple question and they're like "Stupid! You need an aqueous solution of an alkali hyrdoxide to convert the morphine free base into its anionic form! Everyone knows that you baffoon!"?
it's the same shit

[devilsdrug]

zk was best i thought fienden dont git it yet but i think will soon if he hangs

[Curio]

its alright guys no hard feelings.
But what's wrong with asking questions that has been answered before? It might seem ignorant to you but who the hell knows everything in the world. I mean what if you go up to a group of scientists and you ask them a simple question and they're like "Stupid! You need an aqueous solution of an alkali hyrdoxide to convert the morphine free base into its anionic form! Everyone knows that you baffoon!"?
it's the same shit


I know EVERYTHING....just ask me, myself, and I...

:D

[Opiyum]

fienden dont git it yet but i think will soon if he hang
i have faith in fiendin...dont let me down...

[shaunclo]

OK now, what does "lol" mean? ;)

L - loading
O - Our
L - Lungs with ANYTHING THAT WILL GET US HIGH!!!

[blackdog]

L - loading
O - Our
L - Lungs with ANYTHING THAT WILL GET US HIGH!!!

Let
Opiates
Loose.........?????????? oh weel i tryed:rolleyes:

[slugbone]

Let
Opiates
Loose.........?????????? oh weel i tryed:rolleyes:


LOVING

OPIATE

LIFE

[shaunclo]

LOVING

OPIATE

LIFE

there you go, cant beat that!

[hero1'sgirl]

single white immature male

[skeletontea]

Leprechauns
Often
Lie
(Remember this acronym anytime a leprechaun tells you anything, odds are he's trying to fleece you. It's the second most useful acronym, right after Roy G. Biv, which is a way to remember the colors of the rainbow. Leprechauns are often associated with rainbows,...coincidence? I think not.

As for SWIM, it's not an acronym, it was my birth name (damn hippie parents). Every time you see a forum member talking about buying drugs only to have SWIM take them, it's me. I know it's selfish of me to keep steeling everybody's drugs, but hey I'm a jerk.

[shaunclo]

Leprechauns
Often
Lie
(Remember this acronym anytime a leprechaun tells you anything, odds are he's trying to fleece you. It's the second most useful acronym, right after Roy G. Biv, which is a way to remember the colors of the rainbow. Leprechauns are often associated with rainbows,...coincidence? I think not.

As for SWIM, it's not an acronym, it was my birth name (damn hippie parents). Every time you see a forum member talking about buying drugs only to have SWIM take them, it's me. I know it's selfish of me to keep steeling everybody's drugs, but hey I'm a jerk.

Thank you for stepping up Skeleton and admitting this, it takes a lot of guts man.

[Curio]

Leprechauns
Often
Lie
(Remember this acronym anytime a leprechaun tells you anything, odds are he's trying to fleece you. It's the second most useful acronym, right after Roy G. Biv, which is a way to remember the colors of the rainbow. Leprechauns are often associated with rainbows,...coincidence? I think not.

As for SWIM, it's not an acronym, it was my birth name (damn hippie parents). Every time you see a forum member talking about buying drugs only to have SWIM take them, it's me. I know it's selfish of me to keep steeling everybody's drugs, but hey I'm a jerk.

hey, did you know my schoolmates in Oregon who were also raised by Hippie parents?

no joke,:p here are their actual names:

spirit bond
isis bond

[Coddfish]

lol--

rots
of
ruck

[skeletontea]

hey, did you know my schoolmates in Oregon who were also raised by Hippie parents?
no joke,:p here are their actual names:
spirit bond
isis bond
All of my post was a joke (it just wasn't terribly funny), including the hippie parents. My mother was a psychology student in college, and my father was (and for all I know still is) an attorney. They're about as un-hippie as you can get. And sorry, I don't know your schoolmates, I don't think I'd forget names like that.

Speaking of hippie children with unfortunate names, How about Frank Zappa's kids? Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet Emuukha Rodan, and Diva Muffin. Does anyone else think that naming one's children in this manner is borderline child abuse? :rolleyes:

[Curio]

All of my post was a joke (it just wasn't terribly funny), including the hippie parents. My mother was a psychology student in college, and my father was (and for all I know still is) an attorney. They're about as un-hippie as you can get. And sorry, I don't know your schoolmates, I don't think I'd forget names like that.
Speaking of hippie children with unfortunate names, How about Frank Zappa's kids? Moon Unit, Dweezil, Ahmet Emuukha Rodan, and Diva Muffin. Does anyone else think that naming one's children in this manner is borderline child abuse? :rolleyes:

i figured as much about your "hippie parents", but thought it pretty sad about my school mates!

yes, parents who do this should suffer in some way to compensate for the social ridicule their children will face all their lives!

[Tiamat]

I'm new here too, a mere Grasshopper at the feet of Masters. (BTW do we get points for kissing ass?)

But I thought SWIM meant

Some
Whore
In
Minneapolis

:whip:

[blackdog]

[quote=Tiamat]I'm new here too, a mere Grasshopper at the feet of Masters. (BTW do we get points for kissing ass?)

But I thought SWIM meant

Some
Whore
In
Minneapolis/minnesota*****************edit

:whip:[/quot

[poonwhalla]

me needs a more hose no matta what tha hell...