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wedaseh
06-02-2006, 01:05 PM
A friend of a friend says American OCers have to spend $1/mg on the street. Is this true?

exitwound
06-02-2006, 01:20 PM
A friend of a friend says American OCers have to spend $1/mg on the street. Is this true?

Yup! $0.50/mg if you're really lucky.

Matty Fats 420
06-02-2006, 01:21 PM
depends on how much the person hates you haha....but no seriously i guess it depends on the supply, the less a dealer has the more the price is going to be. if you get lucky i heard they can be as cheap as 50-60$ for an 80mg

HistoryofMadness
06-02-2006, 01:28 PM
Never paid more than $0.50 per gram personally but I know it happens. We also pay much more than you guys for dilaudid too.... probably at least twice as much.

wedaseh
06-02-2006, 01:31 PM
Friend of a friend hates to gloat, but it's $100 for 10 40s in the northern land.

wedaseh
06-02-2006, 01:34 PM
..but thankfully relatively hard to find, at least for SWIM.

Frontier Psychiatrist
06-02-2006, 02:26 PM
You guys are gonna hate me, but I get 80mg pills for 25$. Generally all I want too.

devilsdrug
06-02-2006, 02:36 PM
this thread just about fits with shuancios i got some of ____

ZodiacKiller
06-02-2006, 06:15 PM
Yep, it's a sad day to read about this. Here, too, for some reason OCs have become more scarce. Generally, I have to pay $30 for a 40mg, and $45-50 for an eighty. Why the hell do you think I started doing heroin? Of course, then I found that I liked the heroin better that the OCs, so that opened an ugly door. But once in a while I still like to do OC, it's got more of a stimulative effect for me. Heroin=nod city.

ZK

shaunclo
06-02-2006, 06:20 PM
this thread just about fits with shuancios i got some of ____

ROMFLAO!!!!!! Couldnt have said it better myself DD. I was thinking the same fucking thing. Looks like someone is goon make their bust qouta for the month.......atleast the retarded will be weeded out. Goddamn Im good.

sage99
06-02-2006, 07:35 PM
Here in South Texas we pay $10 for a 40 and $20 for 80's.... i think i would go insane if i had to pay a dollar a milligram!:D

Frontier Psychiatrist
06-02-2006, 08:24 PM
i think i would go insane if i had to pay a dollar a milligram!:D

.....or be on heroin like the rest of us.

exitwound
06-02-2006, 10:42 PM
Friend of a friend hates to gloat, but it's $100 for 10 40s in the northern land.

Shit I'd pay that....it's only about twice as much as I pay at the pharmacy.

Opiyum
06-02-2006, 10:52 PM
There is soooooo mucchhhh baaaaaiiitttttt out here..

Dont mind me Im just crazy messed up on drugs. I hide in the corners waiting for rape victims.

Fuckin obvious

Ooops. last time. Ill keep my trap shut from now on.

jwalm
06-02-2006, 10:56 PM
i dont get oxycontin 80mg much...

price is always 40-50$ usd

40mg methadone is 25$ usd

hydrocodone 10mg 3-5 usd

dissident
06-03-2006, 01:21 AM
i dont get oxycontin 80mg much...

price is always 40-50$ usd

40mg methadone is 25$ usd

hydrocodone 10mg 3-5 usd


yeah but how much NEW ?

chemboy7
06-03-2006, 02:30 AM
There is soooooo mucchhhh baaaaaiiitttttt out here..

Dont mind me Im just crazy messed up on drugs. I hide in the corners waiting for rape victims.

Fuckin obvious

Ooops. last time. Ill keep my trap shut from now on.

I hear ya Opi... I'm too busy scrapping all that dried jizz off my pants from constantly jerkin' off when I can't find a rape victim to bite any of the worms dangling in front of my mouth.

PantyShot9
06-03-2006, 08:17 AM
.....or be on heroin like the rest of us.

Lol true.

musingpoet
06-03-2006, 09:58 AM
They are $10 a 40mg here. (now that my friend goes to a doc), before that it was about $25.

handsome rob
06-03-2006, 03:34 PM
In Milwaukee 50 cents a milligram is standard for Oxycontin brand. ABG brand are usually the same, the teva (oval) 80's and the endo brand are usually about $30-35.

L0VE
06-03-2006, 07:05 PM
A friend of a friend says American OCers have to spend $1/mg on the street. Is this true?

I've only heard of that in New York and I personally would not spend that much. I pay around $40 to $60 for 80mg ocs. I pay less for tevas though, about $40 bucks.

ZodiacKiller
06-03-2006, 08:14 PM
In Milwaukee 50 cents a milligram is standard for Oxycontin brand. ABG brand are usually the same, the teva (oval) 80's and the endo brand are usually about $30-35.

Well, that's where I'm from and all my connects have reported the increases that I posted earlier. Wish I had your hooks...


ZK

Badly Drawn Girl
06-04-2006, 01:10 AM
Yep, it's a sad day to read about this. Here, too, for some reason OCs have become more scarce. Generally, I have to pay $30 for a 40mg, and $45-50 for an eighty. Why the hell do you think I started doing heroin? Of course, then I found that I liked the heroin better that the OCs, so that opened an ugly door. But once in a while I still like to do OC, it's got more of a stimulative effect for me. Heroin=nod city.
ZK

That's the situation here in Seattle. They are completely elusive. A couple weeks back one of the pharmacys got robbed of all their Oxys. People are desperate. Everyone I talk to say they just aren't available. I don't know if doctors are really cracking down or what. Leave to me to enter the game late!

jonno
06-05-2006, 07:03 PM
25-35 for a 40
50-70 for an 80

many people will pay $1/mg here too

suffocate
06-19-2006, 10:24 PM
I cannot express the sorrow and sympathy I feel for all of you Americans. Eigthy fucking dollars for an OC/80?! That's the price of a gram of cocaine around here. Ya'll need to drive on up to the big red and white. The prices in Ontario, Canada for oxycontin tablets are generally between $5-$8 for OC/40mg and $6-10 for OC/80mg (the availability of 80's seems to be rather low, however).

From what I hear, prices are even better across the Mexican border. I wish all pharmacists could write scripts.

devilsdrug
06-19-2006, 10:34 PM
well hot fukkin damn arent u the purveyor of good will, oh yea dont me im an assholee

caesee
06-20-2006, 12:31 AM
From what I hear, prices are even better across the Mexican border. I wish all pharmacists could write scripts.

nope prices in mexico are not even close to the good all days...they are the same price on the street around here, so add in the gas, going through customs, and they cost about double...:mad:

george123
06-20-2006, 12:53 PM
In the SF Bay Area an 80mg is $30, a 40mg is $15 never messed around with anything lower

DaOxyMan
06-20-2006, 01:41 PM
i got a 'super special' hookup that i get my OCs for either 100% free, or i pay him bout $5 a 40mg IVAX, or $10 a 80mg IVAX...HOWEVER PEOPLE, aside from dat, its $30 for a 40mg, and $50 an 80mg, pretty much unanimous no matter who the awesome dealer is...don't care bout OCs too much anymore tho, smack all the way....i would NEVER pay $30 for an OC, not with the good quality of smack that somehow finds its way to the burbs i live in...ill take my two free 40mg OCs i get every other day or so, for good measure, :)

Fleeting_Glimpse
06-20-2006, 01:54 PM
I dont know what dude from canadas talking about, I sold Oxycocets(percocet for you americans) which are 5mg for 5 bucks a pill and 2 bucks a pill to friends, so thats about 1$ per 1mg unless ofcourse youare a friend, btw I live in southern ontario canada

superman
06-20-2006, 02:11 PM
I dont know what dude from canadas talking about, I sold Oxycocets(percocet for you americans) which are 5mg for 5 bucks a pill and 2 bucks a pill to friends, so thats about 1$ per 1mg unless ofcourse youare a friend, btw I live in southern ontario canada

I normally wouldn't be such a dick about my opionion, but i think unscrupulous drug dealers such as yourself need a good ass kicking froma few of your customers once they realize your fucking them over. YOU'RE EVEN FUCKING YOUR FRIENDS OVER BY CHANGING THEM DOUBLE!!!!

you're an asshole

EDIT: for the record, a 100 percs @ the pharmacy costs about $20, or 20 cents (CAD) each. and not only that, anyone who wants them can easily build the required history with a doctor in about 4 months and be given a steady supply of them, so if you're being exploited by any greedy fucking assholes, why not go get your own script? can't work with chronic back pain, especially in your carreer that you cannot walk away from. be sure to do your excercies for a several weeks before asking for something stronger

Fleeting_Glimpse
06-20-2006, 02:18 PM
how do you figure, Its not like there very easy to come by, and btw im doing my friends a massive favour as far as im conserned, Its ok though you probly dont understand how much the ministry of health in canada is cracking down on doctors who prescribe Oxycodone, So really I was doing people a favour by having them available, anyway i didnt sell to many, because I was too busy eating them, asshole? no, ... supplyer and demander? probably

Thats a good lie but too bad thats not how it works, you must not know much about prescription pain killers,because if you did you would not have made that statment

Oh btw I dont know too many people that make plans for getting high 4 months in advance, so like i said having them available is enough of a favour

Frontier Psychiatrist
06-20-2006, 02:37 PM
percocets for 5 bux? How have you found so many suckers?!


edit: I just realised we're talking canadian dollars here, so neverfuckingmind.

superman
06-20-2006, 02:54 PM
first, i don't want for this to turn into a flame war, this will be my last post concerning this topic, feel free to reply however you wish, just know i won't be refuting anything you say about this topic.

"Its not like there very easy to come by"
but you're feeding people an addictive drug at a greatly inflated price. it is unethical nomatter how you justify it to yourself.

"you probly dont understand how much the ministry of health in canada is cracking down on doctors who prescribe Oxycodone"
I think you have a distorted view on oxycodone, availability is the same as it has been for years. and i am candian, i lived in ontario for many years, and i was intimately involved in the drug scene there.

"I was doing people a favour by having them available"
a favour would be suppling them at cost, or at least below market value in the largest nearby city.
So in your case a favour would be $.20-$1. still overpriced, but not too exploitative would be $1.50

"Thats a good lie but too bad thats not how it works"
percs are prescribed for moderate chronic pain. if you can build a trust with your doctor, and demonstrate that you have such pain, the only logical conclusion of the situation would be a monthly prescription for painkillers, or you may have to try another doctor.

granted there are hoops to jump through, thus the 4 month period i mention. you will have to have an X-ray. then you will have to do some excercises for a few weeks, then you will be given codiene, which will have too many side effects, so you'll be given tramadol, which will work for 2-3 months at which point your injury will either be worsened by a fall or other accident or you will have developed a tolerance to the tramadol (you have to decide which path to take by feeling out your particular doctor. now the doc will be giving you percs. be happy with them or a year at least, then you're in line to get something stronger.

so although I "must not know much about prescription pain killers", I obviously know enough.

BTW, sorry for calling you an asshole, it's just that your post reminded me of an asshole i used to know who got people addicted to percs for the sole purpose of supplying them @ $5/pill - also known as EXPLOITATION

costa1107
06-20-2006, 03:58 PM
What is the oxy or MsCont price in Detroit anyone know or is it even available around here any more?

Fleeting_Glimpse
06-20-2006, 04:17 PM
I agree with most of what your saying, however Most people that are looking for percs, do not have back pain, they are simply using it recreationally, and yes I would not pay 5$ a pill but that is what others charge, so unless they were buying a quantity, or they were some what of a friend than thats the price they would pay, and I take no offense to your previous posts!

Frontier Psychiatrist
06-20-2006, 05:58 PM
I know i Just stated it, but jesus that's alot of money for a percocet high. The $40+ range for most folx. you my friend, are the reason why people start doing heroin.

HistoryofMadness
06-21-2006, 12:38 AM
I cannot express the sorrow and sympathy I feel for all of you Americans. Eigthy fucking dollars for an OC/80?! That's the price of a gram of cocaine around here. Ya'll need to drive on up to the big red and white. The prices in Ontario, Canada for oxycontin tablets are generally between $5-$8 for OC/40mg and $6-10 for OC/80mg (the availability of 80's seems to be rather low, however).

From what I hear, prices are even better across the Mexican border. I wish all pharmacists could write scripts.

This may be stupid, but I'm asking anyway... are we all talking about the same dollar? I thought you canadians used another currency? If so, do the prices roughly translate? Apologies on my ignorance, my personal banker is out taking my mercedes to be waxed...


but you're feeding people an addictive drug at a greatly inflated price. it is unethical nomatter how you justify it to yourself.

"I was doing people a favour by having them available"
a favour would be suppling them at cost, or at least below market value in the largest nearby city.
So in your case a favour would be $.20-$1. still overpriced, but not too exploitative would be $1.50

so although I "must not know much about prescription pain killers", I obviously know enough.

BTW, sorry for calling you an asshole, it's just that your post reminded me of an asshole i used to know who got people addicted to percs for the sole purpose of supplying them @ $5/pill - also known as EXPLOITATION

Alright, I'm jumping in here because I think anyone who is ignorant about the black market should have things cleared up for them... I consider it a community service, because it may help you or someone...

Here's the deal, superman, your opinion of a greatly inflated price is irrelevant to a junky or an idiot kid that wants or needs to get high. If he is screwing them, he will eventually lose their business. Until then, its fair because they accept the terms.

Secondly it would be BEYOND stupid to charge cost, or fucking idiotic to charge below cost... its a favor for junkies to have anyone bring pills in to the market. But selling in the black market has long term costs, such as getting busted, getting ripped off, etc. Its all about RISK, my friend, and connections. He has the pills, and he risks bringing them to the market, he has earned a fair profit.

You know a lot about painkillers, but nothing about the black market. Its not fair. Its not honorable. There are communities, but its the street. Different rules. There are no oaths taken... you find a circle, know your shit, and make sure you don't get screwed. If you veer off course, or screw people in your circle, and get excommunicated, you are back out there paying highest premiums and getting ripped.

Anyway sounds like you'll never need the black market because of your profound knowledge of the medical process. I wish I had that honestly. So if I need to go doc shopping, I'll go with someone else, and I highly recommend you do the same if you ever need the black market.

And FrPsy I say who cares he makes money why's that so bad? You guys think having junkies calling at all hours, asking to borrow shit, running when they see you cause they ain't paying, etc etc.. all the BS the suppliers have to put up with...

I say sell watcha got for whatcha can get and fuck what anyone thinks about it...

That's why I hate the black market.

poonwhalla
06-21-2006, 01:25 AM
currancy?!!I got a loony and a tuney? I think in canadian that's 3dollar's

antigonemuse
06-21-2006, 01:29 AM
upsate they go for about this

tens- debending on connect - between 4 and 7 bucks
twenties - between 10 and 15
40 - between 15 and 20 (been lucky to get for 5, yes 5)

the only 80s i have come accross were free

superman
06-21-2006, 03:50 AM
"fucking idiotic to charge below cost"
what i said was: a favour would be suppling them at cost, or at least below market value

"sounds like you'll never need the black market"
actually i rely soley on the black market. but i did try the medical route just to see how easy it was.

SWIM has sold assloads of drugs, and he never overcharged, not when he was the only person with them, or when he was visiting a small town that never had drugs like these before, or when there were the same drugs but everyone else charge more. No, SWIM's ethics told him that to take advantage of SWIM's position by taking as much money as he can get would be greedy and wrong.

"You guys think having junkies calling at all hours, asking to borrow shit, running when they see you cause they ain't paying, etc etc.. all the BS the suppliers have to put up with..."
SWIM also purchased a pager. When he didn't want to be bothered, he turned off the pager. His client knew this and being some of the most wonderfull customers he could ever ask for totally accepted this, and brought so much business to SWIM.

Might one call this a mutually beneficial relationship? honest trustworthy clientelle, possibly attracted by honesty and fairness? You make it sound like dealing drugs is hard work and so risky it's barely worthwhile. In fact it's exactly what you make it to be. SWIM's time spent dealing was the most memorable time of his life. SWIM met so many awesome people, and helped so many people have fun, it was this experience, and the wise teachings of his first supplier, that helped shape his ethics.

insomnolent
06-21-2006, 05:39 PM
Northern VA

40mg: $20-40.
80mg: $40-80.

So between 50 cents to a dollar a milligram. However, I always seem to end up paying on the higher end, unfortunately. =/

Badly Drawn Girl
06-22-2006, 01:31 AM
BTW, sorry for calling you an asshole, it's just that your post reminded me of an asshole i used to know who got people addicted to percs for the sole purpose of supplying them @ $5/pill - also known as EXPLOITATION

It's simple supply and demand. Everyone I've known has tried to charge $5 per perc. I've even encountered as much as $7 per perc when supply is low. The only way you are going to pay $2-$3 is through a dealer that you are friends with (speaking about where I am locally). Hell, Vicodin goes for $2 per pill. It does feel like exploitation but such is life. I get my 100 percs a month for $40, and then spent the rest of the time paying $5 a pill. It's a bloody shame. I'm on the wrong end of the business deal, I can tell you that. lol

karmacoma
06-22-2006, 03:54 AM
i have to agree with the man with the S on the chest... there should be some amount of ethics in black market dealings. just because it is possible to sell to needy people at 2,500% profit doesn't mean you should. and then to sell to 'friends' at 1,000%, and to call that a 'favor'? (i mean i don't know what your definition of friendship is.)

obviously, dealers provide a service, and so, deserve to make a profit. even add to that profit some extra percentage for the risks involved (firefighters and shit get extra pay for dangerous work, right??). mais soyez raisonable! 300% profit would be okay. fuck it, let's make it 500%! so a dealer makes an initial investment and recoups 5 times what he put in.

to sell at flagrant prices to needy people is nothing less than stealing. the fact that you can doesn't make it better. when you see a guy drop $10 you should tap him on the shoulder, not keep it because you CAN. superman has the right attitude towards the whole thing. it can, and should, be mutually beneficial. of course we can go down the other road, as it seems we are all doing, and adopt an attitude that makes it okay for each of us to exploit any opportunity that presents itself to the limit of its profitablity, no matter what the cost to others. hobbes anyone???

whatever. i shouldn't get all bent out of shape like this. this is the way the world has been run since old caine gave his brother that concussion. but still... it could be much better... if everyone were like Superman.

caesee
06-22-2006, 05:19 AM
supply, avaiblity, and demand, more demand equals higher prices baby, especially when it comes to the drug game....lets see about 4-5 years ago Ecstacy was anywhere from $15-40 a pill depending on the state, and now SWIM can get them for $4 each from the guy that used to charge $15, the demand has dropped. Cannibas during harvest season the price drops drascially, becasue of supply...Vics used to go for $1 a pill or cheaper around here, now since they are in such demand they are anywhere form $3-$4 each as most pain pills have risen...LSD back to about 2000 was $1-$5 a hit or much less, now it is scarce and have seen $7-$15 a dose.... dealers tht are your friends might give you a better price, but the name "drug dealer" speaks for inself...they are in the game to make money, as much money as they can and then more money...(this does not speak for all, but the dude you cop from on the corner falls in this catagory) The only honesy trustworthly dealers I have ment only sell cannibas, mushrooms, and LSD..

Matty Fats 420
06-22-2006, 05:45 AM
OC in Long island is anywhere from 50-100 for an 80MG. somehow i came across 40MG for 15 bucks, but it didnt last long and im sure ill never see that price again haha

oc80tn
06-22-2006, 12:52 PM
I don't want to give the wrong impression of myself, but I will help out a couple of my friends with a few of my OC40's every month. I get 60 of them and end up selling about 12-15 of them. Not a lot, per se, but when you think I only get 60, that's about 25 percent of them. I would have a hard time screwing these two friends and I only end up charging them about 8 bucks a pill, which is nowhere near the going price in this neck of the woods. Try 55-80 dollars for an eighty!

Yup, as I may have said before, one of the friends of mine knows another guy who rips it off in people by selling 80's at a 100 dollars a piece. I guarantee you that he didn't pay that much, as I think he gets them from a doctor. So if that's the case, and even if he doesn't have insurance, he isn't paying more than about 10 dollars a pill. I don't have a problem with people making a profit, but let's be reasonable here. 1000 percent profit is not reasonable! 50 dollars for an OC80 is enough for everyone to make a profit if they would stick to that limit. Unfortunately, when people are desperate, they will pay about anything to get it and the cycle continues. As long as we are willing to pay anything, we will continue to get the shaft. I guarantee you that if your dealer started losing customers because of his inflated prices, he would start to come down or have to go out of business.

My situation is different. I don't do it to make a profit, just to make sure I've taken care of my buds and that if I need help later down the road, they return the favour. And most of the time, they do take care of me when they can. I know that not everyone in the crowd is that honest and that addiction can lead people to do some despicable things, but it doesn't have to. I believe in karma and if you do someone wrong, it will eventually catch up with you.

Fleeting_Glimpse
06-22-2006, 01:16 PM
Caesee, got it perfect, I also sold shrooms and they used to go for the same price as bud, but now id be lucky to get $140 per OZ,

some of you have a hard time grasping this concept, but the fact is that buyers determain the market not the dealers, its like going to sell your car, are you going to get as much as you can for it, or will you give them the car for less than the asking price, Im not revealing how exactly i obtained my pills, however I will say that they were a sought out item by many people, and I wasnt prepared to just give them away because its the nice thing to do.

DaOxyMan
06-22-2006, 02:06 PM
just to make you guys feel better, when i was in high school i have given my friends OC 40s (name brand) for below cost..i know this sounds ludacris (haha on the spelling) but i don't see why if i paid like a $50 for like 50 oxycontins, why i shouldn't just give them away for free? i mean its the same thing as smokin out your dudes with weed..i mean when i pick up an 8 ball of yay, and no one wants to throw down, i invite them to split it for free..maybe this is why i am so broke but i have given away a decent supply of OCs in my time...this is NO LIE, during my senior year, before OCs got popular in my school, i gave this girl Sara a free 40mg OC for free , everyday, for over three weeks..just so i had someone to chill with...THIS IS DRUG ethics, something most people don't have nowadays..im not saying if your a pusher to give ALL your friends shit at cost, or even close if your gettin sick deals but shit, and ill only say this phrase one more time in my whole life:
HOOK A NIGGA UP SOMETIMES

jollygreen
06-22-2006, 02:31 PM
I totally agree with you OxyMan. People can be such assholes. I'm always hooking up friends with free OC when i can, not to just have someone to chill with, but just because it's the right thing to do. too bad there arent more people like me and you.

Also here in central FL OC 40s go for $20-$40 and i haven't seen any 80s here.

caesee
06-22-2006, 04:20 PM
Caesee, got it perfect.


if i had a $1 for everytime I heard this, well i would have a $1...:D

handsome rob
06-22-2006, 10:29 PM
Well, that's where I'm from and all my connects have reported the increases that I posted earlier. Wish I had your hooks...


ZK
Well, ZK...HR has read your blog and wishes he had your hooks.

ZodiacKiller
06-23-2006, 08:04 AM
Well, ZK...HR has read your blog and wishes he had your hooks.


Most intetesting......perhaps we should discuss via PM....


ZK

Phluck
06-23-2006, 11:16 AM
This is amazing... I don't know how people get addicted.

In Canada, it's $10 for 40mg OCs, and $20 for 80mg OCs. Sometimes people charge a bit more, but that elicits a lot of complaints.

I'm suprised people can maintain a habit paying that much money... and in American dollars!

I heard someone talking about how people pay like $30 for 8mg dilaudids! It's $10 canadian here... I just bought 2.

Incredible.

superman
06-23-2006, 01:05 PM
phluck, your prices are pretty much the same as mine, but i usually opt for the cheaper morphine @ $20/200mg

HistoryofMadness
06-23-2006, 04:25 PM
SWIM has sold assloads of drugs, and he never overcharged ... No, SWIM's ethics told him that to take advantage of SWIM's position by taking as much money as he can get would be greedy and wrong.



Well SWIM never sold, only bought.. for the most part. I agree with the idea that buyers determine the market. Besides, the opportunity to make several thousand percent rarely comes up anyway.

And I wasn't trying to insult you... for some reason I did think you were a doctor shopper, and thus had a better 'in' than us street market specialists... but I can't help thinking you're young on the scene... am I way off?

i have to agree with the man with the S on the chest... there should be some amount of ethics in black market dealings. just because it is possible to sell to needy people at 2,500% profit doesn't mean you should. and then to sell to 'friends' at 1,000%, and to call that a 'favor'? (i mean i don't know what your definition of friendship is.)

to sell at flagrant prices to needy people is nothing less than stealing. the fact that you can doesn't make it better. when you see a guy drop $10 you should tap him on the shoulder, not keep it because you CAN.... it can, and should, be mutually beneficial. of course we can go down the other road... adopt an attitude that makes it okay for each of us to exploit any opportunity that presents itself to the limit of its profitablity, no matter what the cost to others. hobbes anyone???



Of course there should be ethics... Some of us are talking about the way things should be and some of us are talking about the way things are. Its nice to think of a black market with a heart, but in the meantime, its our responsibility not to get screwed...

If a dealer is offering a overpriced product, walk away... there will always be suckers and takers, and they all learn sooner or later that fairness is the best way to conduct themselves. In the meantime, the market works itself out.

Phoenix21
06-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Some of the prices you guy's posted are crazy. I only pay $ 20.00 for an oc 80, sometimes $22. and for 30 mg Roxi's anywhere from $ 8 - 10. I'm never moving from Florida now.

Transitive
06-23-2006, 09:53 PM
man people always saying that pricing in the US is crazy, but if you actually start looking for some sources, its really not that bad. i get 20mg OCs for $6 each, $5 each if i buy 20+.

DaOxyMan
06-23-2006, 11:49 PM
in most areas the demand i think is just too high, too many rich kids (sorry if this offends, it used to include me) who are just gettini into 'hard' 'addicting' drugs, who don't have the patience necessary to shop for a dealer..thats what happened to most people in my area...if somone has $25 40's all day and is only 10 min away, thats where the kids will go..and theres no reason to drop prices for one kid, cuz the next kid will be there in five min ya know? basically its 'drug noobs'...i mean shit imagineif ya went to the eastside or whichever 'side of your city was most ghetto, and all the H dealers were pushin for the same supplier, but one guy sold his bags three for $25, the other $10 a piece, and the other guy was $15 a piece...no one would buy from the expensive two..these OC dealers have too much pricing power. they are the monopolistic drug dealers....and basically the only thing they can do tht other dealers can't is that they can garauntee their product's quality...they have too much pricing power, these dealers flunked outta one two many college business courses and are fucking too many people inthe ass! just wait it out for a better deal..sorry for the rant

superman
06-24-2006, 02:22 AM
"And I wasn't trying to insult you... for some reason I did think you were a doctor shopper, and thus had a better 'in' than us street market specialists... but I can't help thinking you're young on the scene... am I way off?"

understandable, i did go off a bit on how one could get thier own percs instead of being ripped.
I'm in my mid 20s. if by the scene you mean the drug scene, been getting stoned since 12, doing chems since 15, @17 SWIM was one of maybe 2-3 other dealers supplying a city of 120000+ with E, this continued for over a year. SWIM had so much money everything he bought to get high on was either an ounce bag of powder, or 100 pills, or 1/2 lb mush.....
If by the scene you mean the opiate scene, i started using the stronger stuff very heavily about 3 years ago, oxy, morphine, fentanyl, hydromorphone. heroin has always been an occasional treat. Graduated to IV 2 years ago.

does this mean i am new to the scene? sure doesn't feel like it, hahaha

L0VE
06-24-2006, 07:08 AM
I cannot express the sorrow and sympathy I feel for all of you Americans. Eigthy fucking dollars for an OC/80?! That's the price of a gram of cocaine around here. Ya'll need to drive on up to the big red and white. The prices in Ontario, Canada for oxycontin tablets are generally between $5-$8 for OC/40mg and $6-10 for OC/80mg (the availability of 80's seems to be rather low, however).

From what I hear, prices are even better across the Mexican border. I wish all pharmacists could write scripts.

Are you talking about a co pay or in the pharmacy or STREET PRICE? WFT 10?!

Phluck
06-24-2006, 01:18 PM
Sounds kinda like he's talking about pharmacy prices. I do know of people getting oc40's for 7 or 8 dollars, but they're buying in large quantities.

On the street, it's kind of standard: $10 for 40's, $20 for 80's.

and yeah superman, sounds like our prices are pretty similar. But you seem to be getting morphine a little cheaper. Here it's $25 for a 200mg pill, or 2 100mg pills. There seems to be a lot of morphine on the streets here. Either little grey circular 100mg pills or red oblong 200mg pills. "Greys" and "red rockets". Other than those, there are a lot of people selling 8mg dilaudids and 40 or 80mg OCs. Occasionally someone will have a pile of percs for sale.

costa1107
06-24-2006, 03:15 PM
Iwish I had the balls to go across the border and score some OXY or MSCONT, but the way they are at the border these days I am too chicken to even try. I should just move to Canda :).

Frontier Psychiatrist
06-24-2006, 03:17 PM
that's really cheap, especially since we're talking canadian money. Does it have anything to do with the free medicare plan?

Phluck
06-26-2006, 10:29 PM
No, but the government controls pharm prices up here, which is why Americans often cross the border to buy their meds.

I'm not sure if that really affects the street drugs though. I'm not sure where they come from, but it seems to me that a lot of these drugs get diverted further up the line than the pharmacies.

copelandia
06-26-2006, 11:26 PM
So how much do those 8mg dillies go for?

Seeing if a drive north and vacation would be worthwhile..lol.

:D


getting morphine a little cheaper. Here it's $25 for a 200mg pill, or 2 100mg pills. There seems to be a lot of morphine on the streets here. Either little grey circular 100mg pills or red oblong 200mg pills. "Greys" and "red rockets". Other than those, there are a lot of people selling 8mg dilaudids and 40 or 80mg OCs. Occasionally someone will have a pile of percs for sale.

SomniGod
06-26-2006, 11:31 PM
My girlfriends' best friends' boyfriend is hooking up:


$30 for green OC80 (sometimes have to pay $10 gas fee on top...so ya wanna stock up)
$5-$10 for 30mg Roxies
$10 for 30mg MSIR
$10 for purple MS Contins 30mg
$10 for white 40mg methadone wafers
$15-$25 for 1200mcg fentanyl lollipops

someone's happy right now....
(all are 10+ quantity prices).

this is from Ft. Lauderdale area

~S~

HistoryofMadness
06-26-2006, 11:45 PM
My girlfriends' best friends' boyfriend is hooking up:


$30 for green OC80 (sometimes have to pay $10 gas fee on top...so ya wanna stock up)
$5-$10 for 30mg Roxies
$10 for 30mg MSIR
$10 for purple MS Contins 30mg
$10 for white 40mg methadone wafers
$15-$25 for 1200mcg fentanyl lollipops

someone's happy right now....
(all are 10+ quantity prices).

this is from Ft. Lauderdale area

~S~]

Pack up the RV kids, we're goin to the fuckin beach!!!!

ZodiacKiller
06-26-2006, 11:59 PM
^ Can I come, too??? Pleeease? I promise I won't make us stop for the bathroom every 20 minutes, and I don't take up that much room. Oh, yeah, and I'm somewhat financially well-heeled at the moment, so I'd treat for "ice cream"........and lollipops all around!!


ZK

HistoryofMadness
06-27-2006, 12:08 AM
^ Can I come, too??? Pleeease? I promise I won't make us stop for the bathroom every 20 minutes, and I don't take up that much room. Oh, yeah, and I'm somewhat financially well-heeled at the moment, so I'd treat for "ice cream"........and lollipops all around!!


ZK

Shiiiit, you buyin I'm flyin...

handsome rob
06-27-2006, 04:02 PM
I'm comin' for sure! Opi-road trip, sounds like the best idea ever. The ride back would be the best thing ever, though the stock might be depleted by the time we get back.

Phluck
06-27-2006, 04:15 PM
So how much do those 8mg dillies go for?

Seeing if a drive north and vacation would be worthwhile..lol.

:D

I paid $10 cdn a piece. But the person who sells them can be a little hard to find. I don't really have great connections... wish I did, but ah well.

superman
06-27-2006, 05:45 PM
i have only had dillies (as in the tablets) on only two occasions, but 18mg hydromorph has come around many times, usually i get em for $15. but since i love em i have been known to pay $20 a few times.

24mg caps come around less often and are usually $20

if someone were to come to canada to score, don't count on dillies bein around 100%, for me they are always sporadicly available. which is understandable, cuz when i get a connect, i prefer to buy all the D they can get for as long as they can get it

HistoryofMadness
06-27-2006, 06:05 PM
Hey, hey, hey fellas. Don't forget who's got the wireless headphones and in-ceiling player in the Expedition for the road trip. ZK, you're in charge of the flix. Should we bring flowers and a nice pinot noir for our host? Or just fat wallets?:p

Of course karen and rob are in!!! karen, you can drive, i'll navigate / plan, no offense but we should take zk off of movies and put him on music, after all he's the resident expert.

we need a movie person, and what are you good for rob (with all due respect!:)

handsome rob
06-27-2006, 06:12 PM
I'll do movies, awsome dvd collection, something for everyone. Navigating too. I'm also really good at doing opiates.

Phluck
06-27-2006, 10:43 PM
i have only had dillies (as in the tablets) on only two occasions, but 18mg hydromorph has come around many times, usually i get em for $15. but since i love em i have been known to pay $20 a few times.

24mg caps come around less often and are usually $20

if someone were to come to canada to score, don't count on dillies bein around 100%, for me they are always sporadicly available. which is understandable, cuz when i get a connect, i prefer to buy all the D they can get for as long as they can get it

I'd love to get some hydromorph contin... I had some asshole sell me some caps filled with sugar or something, but never the real things.

SirDonkeyPunch
06-27-2006, 11:27 PM
We only pay 50 cents / mg over where im at. No one pays 1$ per milligram where i live thats highway robbery. the thing that bugs me is those scumbags we have to get em from get them cheaper. bastards

HistoryofMadness
06-28-2006, 04:20 AM
If by the scene you mean the opiate scene, i started using the stronger stuff very heavily about 3 years ago, oxy, morphine, fentanyl, hydromorphone. heroin has always been an occasional treat. Graduated to IV 2 years ago.

does this mean i am new to the scene? sure doesn't feel like it, hahaha

This is what I meant, IMO the junky scene, specifically the street scene, is a whole different ballgame when you get outside of the confines of suburban middlemen...

Buying and selling with a monster habit, to and from junkies and street dealers, changes ones' perspective on the 'ethics' of dealing... hustling and all. Selling E to club kids and selling smack to strung-out junkies, well, let's just say one of these thing is not like the other.

Well, hell, wtf, I can't be the only one. DD, tarbaby, anyone else back me up on this one? I guess there are many different worlds to junk, and if I think far enough back in my habit, I can remember the 'ethics' and 'pot etiquette' bullshit.

The cut-throat nature of a life of street drugs is why I'm shifting towards the shit that can be grown and cultivated... ken?

Dee
06-28-2006, 05:29 AM
Yup, that's the street rule of thumb but "regulars" typically pay a little less. Thank God I personally havn't had to get them that way.
Bon Voyage!
-D
:cool: A friend of a friend says American OCers have to spend $1/mg on the street. Is this true?

ZodiacKiller
06-28-2006, 09:35 AM
A guy's gotta do what a guy's gotta do. I'll take one for the team in the name of opiophiles everywhere. With rising gas prices....Hey ZK, we've got to blast 53rd and 3rd by the Ramones if I'm man-whoring. Just switched avatars, the OC 160 was kind of cheesy. The "Too much metal for one hand" is much better(I think).

Well, ok, I guess I can be 'the music guy', but I get to hand out the "brown", right? I mean, nobody gets better than me, haha! I'll bring that new double-disc Ramones greatest hits ---kicks ass! Oh, and I am way too metal for one hand, lol! (But seeing that 160mg OC did bring back some memories--like how scared we used to be when we'd get those---now I'd just eat that fucker without a second thought)...

Ok, so where we goin', anyway? And I gotta bring Mrs. Killer--she can be the fashion consultant, she's so hip that it makes me feel old sometimes...


ZK

soulman
06-28-2006, 10:56 AM
me and my good friend were talking just the otherday about how our boy who used to work at a nursing home would give us these HUGE and i mean HUGE syringes with no tip(to be inserted into an iv line FULL of dilaudid, but back then we just took em in trade for coke and didnt know anything better to do with em' than squirt em into a big glass of orange juice and melt into the couch for a few hours, we had not discovered the needle yet............what a waste . these things were HUGE too, i mean like almost a foot long and 2" in diameter!!! he was in charge of "destroying them"hahahahahaha:p

zombiewoof23
06-28-2006, 11:02 AM
Well I'm a pretty cheap date if we're having an opi family trip, just don't kill me! Karen, Poppy....make sure these guys don't kill me! So where we going anyway! Oh and ZK is definitely in charge of music. Hey ZK why don't you have the name Lord somewhere in your name.....like Lord Killer or something. I think the trip should involve ZK on a new metal worldwide tour and we'll all hop on the road and see what it's really like to party like a rock star. I'm sure we'll put the dixie chicks tour to shame!

zombiewoof23
06-28-2006, 11:36 AM
Ha, ha! Zombiewolf, that would be awesome. The Killa's entourage. Actually, the whole fantasy road trip started with SG's friend's bargain-basement prices. Looks like we may need a big ol' greyhound-type bus now, tho.

OMG, how'd you like to see that pull up in front of your house with all of us in it? "Quick honey, hit the lights, crawl over here and bolt that door. Damn."

And ZK, of course, Mrs. K is always welcome. Does she have her CDL?

Quick note, don't pull up in front of my house. That will ruin the story I'll have to tell my wife, about the business trip I'm going on. It's going to be hard enough when I get back all strung out and have to tell her that I joined a band and we're going on the road again. And oh yeah, we'll definitely need a couple of buses. Mrs. Killer doesn't need her CDL, driving is too much like work. That's what the professional driver(s) we'll hire are for.

HistoryofMadness
06-28-2006, 12:14 PM
TO THE BEACH!!! Hell, we're gonna have to come up with a meeting point somewhere in the southeast (probably southern ga or n florida) because I aint goin all the way north for you snowbirdies!!! Besides I'd need a fucking row boat anyway, and I pawned it for the RV rental!!!

ZodiacKiller
06-28-2006, 07:31 PM
Well I'm a pretty cheap date if we're having an opi family trip, just don't kill me! Karen, Poppy....make sure these guys don't kill me! So where we going anyway! Oh and ZK is definitely in charge of music. Hey ZK why don't you have the name Lord somewhere in your name.....like Lord Killer or something. I think the trip should involve ZK on a new metal worldwide tour and we'll all hop on the road and see what it's really like to party like a rock star. I'm sure we'll put the dixie chicks tour to shame!

Hey, Zombie, that's funny about the 'Lord' thing in the name because I am good friends with the guitarist from Dark Funeral (he did a 'guest appearance' on our last album; they are a pretty huge black-metal band from Sweden): his name is 'Lord Ahriman' and while everyone knows that couldn't possibly be his real name, he's done a pretty good job at keeping up the alter-ego (what with the 'corpse-paint' and all that imagery). But it's like, what do you call him? "hey, Lord, can ya pass me the guitar tuner?" But 'Lord Killer" does have a certain evil zing to it, eh? But then what're we gonna call my wife? 'M'lady Killer'? I don't think she's gonna go for it....

But I will say this much about touring: you don't get to see nearly as many 'tourist attractions' as you'd like---it's mostly drive all day, unload, set-up, sound-check, have dinner (and start drinking and doing drugs--well, that's how it used to be before I gave up booze and blow), then it's showtime. Repeat daily. You don't get many days off on tour, either, because days off mean no income for that day, and when you are an indie band with hardly any 'label support money', you must depend on what you're getting paid for performing, and selling t-shirts, to survive. And it is not cheap to keep five band members, three crew guys, and a merch person on the road for six months. If you don't have a fancy-schmancy tour bus, it's about a grand a day. If you do have the bus, it's triple that. So unless you're a really big (like, selling a million albums or more) band, it's a pretty grueling life. But it still kicks ass, don't get me wrong...

But I digress: my point is that you don't get to see much when you're touring. For instance, I've been to NYC eight times, at least (I can't really remember exactly), and I've never been to Central Park or to the Statue of Liberty (saw it from the expressway, off in the distance). I've been to England four times and never got to bum around London, even for a little while...

So that's why I always told my bandmates that someday I will embark on my 'Tour of Everywhere'. And I still wanna: I want to get an RV or a Harley and not set a schedule, just drive to whatever I want to see, and spend as much time as I want seeing it. And as for Europe, I wanna take the train and just see everything, too. Guess I should start saving money, huh?

But for our Opiophiles Taste-Test-Tour 2006, well, I am down for whatever. I'll bring a sack....or 10. ;)


ZK