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Desomorphine, 10xmorphine made @ home from codeine is rapidly growing in the underground of russia.
Drug police RB is alarmed with growth of Desomorphine usage
January 21, Ufa, "Bashinform", Elena Makushina
The number of cases of Desomorphine consumption grew up in Bashkortostan. Desomorphine is a home-made drug, which components can be freely purchased at drugstores. News-service of Federal Drug Circulation Control Service in RB reports in 2007 drug police has revealed 70 cases of Desomorphine production, storage and sales - four times more than in 2006.and from the wiki
This drug has attracted recent attention in Russia due to an upsurge in clandestine production, presumably due to its relatively simple synthesis from codeine.[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine#cite_note-3) It is prepared from α-chlorocodide, which is itself obtained by reacting thionyl chloride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thionyl_chloride) with codeine. By catalytic reduction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduction_%28chemistry%29), α-chlorocodide gives dihydrodesoxycodeine, which yields desomorphine on demethylation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demethylation).[5] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine#cite_note-4)[6] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desomorphine#cite_note-5)
not asking how, but i am asking if this is so easy as is said? and available to?
Papa Verine
05-06-2009, 08:04 PM
I don't know... but I'm real curious to find out from one of our resident smart people.
me too. why didnt i follow chemistry.. shit :(
alowishus
05-06-2009, 09:02 PM
I really don't take anything from wiki as law.... ;)
It was most likely written by a former member here, called Woods!! :rolleyes:
Why don't you post this in the chem forum, so the brains can take a look and chime in?
I really don't take anything from wiki as law.... ;)
It was most likely written by a former member here, called Woods!! :rolleyes:
Why don't you post this in the chem forum, so the brains can take a look and chime in?
thats not just wiki.. just look at its growth at russia..
Yeah, your right, if any of you mods can do that, my thanks in advance..
alowishus
05-06-2009, 09:38 PM
I'm not saying it's not, I just really have found wiki to be about as reliable as fox news.
Like saying "OC is a morphine type drug", that statement is wrong on so many levels.
Paregoric Kid
05-07-2009, 01:27 AM
I was just reading about desomorphine yesterday. could you get the equipment for the catalytic reduction from a catalytic converter? what homemade options are there for demethylation? of course if you can already do demethylation then you could just turn the codeine into morphine and take it as is or make it into a different goody.
I was just reading about desomorphine yesterday. could you get the equipment for the catalytic reduction from a catalytic converter? what homemade options are there for demethylation? of course if you can already do demethylation then you could just turn the codeine into morphine and take it as is or make it into a different goody.
Maybe the demethylation of dihydrodesoxycodeine to desomorphine is less sensible than from codeine to morphine, maybe just a reflux in a strong acid will work.. dont know..
What is know for now (here) is:
1 - Codeine + thionyl chloride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thionyl_chloride) = α-chlorocodide
2 - α-chlorocodide + catalytic reduction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduction_%28chemistry%29) = dihydrodesoxycodeine
3 - dihydrodesoxycodeine + demethylation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demethylation) = desomorphine.
Maybe this will be the next illegal opiate on the streets... in russia is allready began.. And codeine is allways sold OTC in small doses.. if the procedure gives a good yield than with the potency of 10xmorphine that ensures lots of doses.. Heroin is just 2x or 3x morphine.. 10x is more profitable..
And home users could sustain their habit if they could do this at home.
For example, i can get 1gr of codeine for 2.5€ if the yield was even just 50% then i would get 0.5gr of desomorphine, and because the normal dose is 3 to 6mg per IV then i would get 83 to 166 doses (equivalent to h bags) from just 2.5€ of codeine.. theres no heroin in the world that can compete with that prices.. not even pods can..
Even if just get the low dose of codeine pills (8mg to 16mgs) they would be worth it cause after converting those mgs per pill are enought for more than just 1 or even 2 doses..
If this is easy done then its a fucking revolution for some junkies..
Restharrow
05-07-2009, 02:22 PM
Is this the same "Homebake" that an old friend from New Zealand told me about.
Is this the same "Homebake" that an old friend from New Zealand told me about.
no
...with the potency of 10xmorphine that ensures lots of doses.. Heroin is just 2x or 3x morphine.. 10x is more profitable..
don't rely on this type of info to determine the effect or high you will get from a drug.
remember, they say bupe is many times stronger than morphine too.
not to mention the 'rush' factor so many H users desire.
being classified as stronger than morphine doesn't make it a 'stronger' or better drug.
Seedy
05-07-2009, 05:23 PM
Is this the same "Homebake" that an old friend from New Zealand told me about.
That's made be reacting morphine with AA. As far as i know the typical result is some diacetylmorphine (h), some left over morphine, and a few different inbetween molecules (3 & 6 monoacetylmorphine and such I think). I hear it's a pretty full spectrum buzz. I'l have the oppurtunity to try some soon but i don't (and hopefully won't) shoot up so I'll either have to plug it or react it with something to make it smokable. Anyone know how to do that? Maybe i'll ask in another thread.
don't rely on this type of info to determine the effect or high you will get from a drug.
remember, they say bupe is many times stronger than morphine too.
not to mention the 'rush' factor so many H users desire.
being classified as stronger than morphine doesn't make it a 'stronger' or better drug.
Yeah, but i would be more than willing to participate in home trials in order to check its potency.. But its showing in the black market exponentianly so it must be good.. or at least it has its place..
and hey if you can convert the easy adquired codeine that i can get into a thing that is more powerful than morphine by using just home products is more than atractive for me.. even if it was morphine it would be attractive (but the AA and pyridine are hard to find and pyridine is can cause cancer...) but when you speak of a drug that is like 10x morhphine that is simpler to make than the NZ home bake .... xi.. thats a dream come true for me.. and other responsable junkies... And even for the black market too...
Imagine if desomorphine starts a trend of labs for doing it pretty much like methamphetamine labs trend started.. After all you can get the codeine and other chemicals all inside the country and near you so this can be really big..
and the high must be very good, especially for IV, as oxymorphone is one the best IV drugs of all opiates. something tells me that desomorphine should bear some effects..
just upping this thread... i think it deserves more... a least i wished to..
FYI about the new zeland homebake:
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/codeine.homebake.labs.html
Papa Verine
05-13-2009, 10:15 AM
Recorsinol??? Where are you???
Us junkies are getting antsy over here...
Ickyuck
05-13-2009, 10:18 AM
Recorsinol??? Where are you???
Us junkies are getting antsy over here...
I know, right?!
any chemical wiz? please, please... even if it just general talk, not recipes... please someone guide us on this.... all us are hungry for something like this that just allows us to say "fuck you" to the powerful forces that rulled the narc trade..
Restharrow
05-20-2009, 02:46 PM
FYI about the new zeland homebake:
http://www.erowid.org/archive/rhodium/chemistry/codeine.homebake.labs.html
Thank you! Good article.
Seedy
05-20-2009, 05:08 PM
^^ yeah, very interesting. A mate came round with some fresh homebake the other day. He shot me up with 30mg worth (bad I know, I've overstepped my mark) - I barely felt the shot - no rush, anyway, but quite a nice buz when it kicked in. I tried smoking the leftovers off foil which I definitely felt. Good to try it but far to expensive to make a habit of it, maybe i just swap the occasional oxy I get every weekend for some.... to smoke.
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