Just Found Some Morphine Sulfates

[TrackStar0420]

As the title says I just found some 15mg Morphine Sulfates. I got about 15 of 'em, which equals 225mg. I have been using OC daily for almost a year now. I;ve managed to keep my tolerance reasonable ,most recently using about 40-60mg OC daily. So now I got myself into this delima, I am completely out of OC, took my last dose last night. With no OC's for a couple days and shit to get done, I am wondering how I can make the most out of these pillls. So what do you guys think? (I also got some pods waiting for me later today, so I am almost tempted to take all of these to feel something, then use the tea to maintain until something better comes along)

[Oakleyskier]

this is what i would do....

and i am definately not the smartest dude in here.... but!!

you got pods brotha man? well in that case i or should i say SWIM would gobble gobble all 225mgs but i would snort them.... but than again that makes me dumb i think because isnt morphine wasted when snorted? well if thats the case than i would definately eat em' all....

ACTUALLY DO WHAT THE GUY BELOW SAID..... SAVE EM FOR A RAINY DAY!!!!

[dharma bum]

I would wait on the pods or at least save 'some' of the ms contins for a rainy day. Actually a dry day is when you would need 'em.

You'll be gettin' morphine from the pods soon enough.

If you have to do them now, just chew those fuckers up or plug them.

[EleusisII]

Try to rail 30 mg, you should def. feel that.
If you eat them, the oral bioavailability is so low, that you prob need to take 120mg or thereabouts...

[insaneike]

Well in most ppl the equiv of morph to oxy would be to take twice the amount of morphine as you would oxy. So if you take 60mg oxycodo take at least 120mg morph. But chances are you will need a lil over double the dose or w.e

Like when I was still able to keep well from a 90mg oxy dose I needed a good 300mg of morph(snorted and maybe 1/4 of dose oral) to get okay.

I never did like morph, cept when I had absolutely zero toler and a single roxi 30 would have me blisted.. I would personally trade them off or sell them. Those 15mg MSIR's aren't worth much though, maybe $2-3 if you find the right person. Unless it's the 15mg MScontins then those are literally next to worthless to most opi users. I'd say try n find someone to trade ya anything for them until the pods arrive.
but if you already have the pods IO'd take them together..

Hope you find some releif soon man!

later

[seven10kids]

smash and eat.

I used to get the 60mg versions of those. I actually got those 15s too (with a 30) and there is a lot (I mean LOT) of pill binder, dont snort unless you like to put massive amounts of flowerlike powder up your nose. At least the higher milis are the same size so less powder but to make 15s do anything from sniffing you would have to do way to many.

Just eat, start out with about as much as you would with oxy, then step it up. Those are the Extended Release MS Contin so crush if you want all the meds delivered at once.

[TrackStar0420]

Thanks for the replies, I had actually ate about 90, and snorted 15, not expecting much, and am currently feeling great. (And I also chew up pills on the rare occasions that I am not snorting them)I don't know how long it will last, but I would bet it's going to keep off WD's until I have access to those pods. There is no point in selling them because cash really isnt an issue here.
*So do you think snorting or sniffing them would be more efficient? Plugging and shooting are both non-options here.
Also the picture is of the ones I have, are the MS, teva's etc? I don;t know much about morphine, or differences between companies.

[hovadagod]

You in the mid west or on the west side?

[TrackStar0420]

midwest, home of the blues and cardinals.

[omar]

in my experience the best way to orally consume ms contins is microwave a shot glass of water till it boils insert crushed pills, let cool and drink it, this for me has yielded much better results than just chewing or sniffing them. you get a lot more out of these pills this way.

[duck]

midwest, home of the blues and cardinals.

Word, me too. Cardinals fan since birth.

[HandMeSomeOpiates]

in my experience the best way to orally consume ms contins is microwave a shot glass of water till it boils insert crushed pills, let cool and drink it, this for me has yielded much better results than just chewing or sniffing them. you get a lot more out of these pills this way.
really??

[EleusisII]

in my experience the best way to orally consume ms contins is microwave a shot glass of water till it boils insert crushed pills, let cool and drink it, this for me has yielded much better results than just chewing or sniffing them. you get a lot more out of these pills this way.

Yeah? I usually stick them up my cats ass. I get alot more out of them that way, then when I eat or rail them!

Sorry to call bullshit Omar, but the oral bioavailability of morphine doesn't change by putting them in boiled water (WTF!? You even risk destroying the morphine!)
If you dissolve it in any liquid, cold or hot, it acts a little bit faster, but it's still only 30-50% weaker than when you sniff them, or put them up the ol' gloryhole ;)

[Swellin]

Maybe when its in hot water it helps release itself from the waxes? Kind of like mimicking the stomach, but there would probably have to be some type of acid added as well. It would be nice if it completely destroyed the time release. Something tells me though that you would need more than hot water.

[EleusisII]

Timerelease has really fuck all to do with it, Swellin...

It's like bitching about your transmission, when you're out of gas, which is why Omars advice doesn't make sense ;)

The timerelease merely delays the release, but crushing thoroughly defeats it, and worst case scenario you wait alittle longer.

The problem is morphines shitty bioavailability. When you take it by mouth, you only get 20-40% (Usually 30%) of the morphine, no matter how much boiled water or prayer to the opiate-gods you use.

When you rail them, or plug them, that increases to 60-70% (IV or IM brings it up even higher).

I usually take 300-360mg by mouth. If I sniff them, I only need 120 mg for the same effects.

[OxiContinKing]

Yeah? I usually stick them up my cats ass. I get alot more out of them that way, then when I eat or rail them!

Sorry to call bullshit Omar, but the oral bioavailability of morphine doesn't change by putting them in boiled water (WTF!? You even risk destroying the morphine!)
If you dissolve it in any liquid, cold or hot, it acts a little bit faster, but it's still only 30-50% weaker than when you sniff them, or put them up the ol' gloryhole ;)

DAMNIT YOU BEAT ME TO IT.

[EleusisII]

Well OCK, I'll let you have the honors, if one of the newbies need to have a CWE explained. Or is asking if you really CAN get high off bananapeels... Or, oh god, this is my absolute favorite, is insisting that you can defeat the timerelease of oxys by rubbing off the coating ;)

[Restharrow]

I took morphine for a long time.

Unless you are an IV guy, the best way is just to swallow it. I found NO euphoria, but really good pain relief and WD relief with morphine.

IMO use them 1 tab at a time and try and allow 4 to 6 hours between doses.

Morphine was the biggest "euphoric disappointment" of my life. I expected some type of super drug and it felt like codeine cough syrup at a low dose.

The bright side is it is good for WD.

Good luck!
Will

[Papa Verine]

I think everybody's metabolism effects the way oral morphine works for them. Some people claim to get little from it, and are thouroughly disappointed when they take morphine orally. Other people double up on their usual Oxycodone dose and feel great.

I'd be willing to bet that everybody has their own bio-availability.

[Woody Bear]

Intranasal Opiate Bioavailability

Morphine: 10%
Morphine plus Chitosan: 31-60%
Diamorphine: High
Fentanyl: 70-80% - very lipid soluble
Sufentanil: 78% - very lipid soluble
Alfentanil: 65%
Oxycodone: 46%

Source: page 22, http://intranasal.net/documentstoload/Hospice_IN_analgesiasedation.ppt
As you can see here morphine's intranasal bioavailability is only 10% which is less than half of morphine's 25% oral bioavailability. Also Oxycodone's nasal bioavailability is only 46% compared to 87% for oral oxycodone. So from an effeciency standpoint oral is better, but nasal administration gets it into the system quicker than oral. So the snorting a little bit if your sick makes sense, but it would be a waste to snort all of it, as although the onset of action is quicker, it's bioavailibility is lower.

When morphine is combined with Chitosan, it increases it's intranasal bioavailability upto 31-60%, so custom morphine formulatioins designed for intranasal administration has much better bioavailibility than oral morphine. But morphine pills don't contain Chitosan, and if you grind and snort these, then you'd only absorb 10%, and most of that takes place in the small intestine from the post nasal drip.

Papa Verine, you are correct, everyone has there own bioavailability. Which is why when they do bioavailability studies, they measure a different figure for each person, and report on the range between individuals. In a study on bioavailability of rectal morphine on children, the range was something like 10-90%, for most people in the study it was 40-60%, they figured that most of the lose was from the morphine getting absorbed into feces.

[roxi*stardust]

I (if I had your tolerance) would have taken about 90mg orally, but would not have crushed or chewed them. I would have swalloe them whole so they would have lasted you a good 8 hours or more.

[omar]

im just saying from my personal experience ive never felt morphines by just popping them and or chewing, but yeah essentially wouldnt it just be instant realease morhpine. ive always had to put them in boiling water to feel anything off em, unless they were already IR's. one day at work i had one sixty which isnt really shit but i parachuted it and still felt like shit all day. the next day did the microwave thing and felt it a lot better. that all im saying. and snorting them sucks didck as well.

[omar]

crushing thoroughly does not "thoroughly" defeat the time realease in my experience.

[scikid]

Do not take all of the pills if you are only taking 40 to 60 milligrams of OC!!!

We are a harm reduction board folks... remember this.

[jcmanny]

im just saying from my personal experience ive never felt morphines by just popping them and or chewing, but yeah essentially wouldnt it just be instant realease morhpine. ive always had to put them in boiling water to feel anything off em, unless they were already IR's. one day at work i had one sixty which isnt really shit but i parachuted it and still felt like shit all day. the next day did the microwave thing and felt it a lot better. that all im saying. and snorting them sucks didck as well.

Pretty much the same here. Last time I did 2 100 MS contins and barely felt anything. I snorted one and chewed the other. Well I did get a little buzz and it sure helped with the wd. I was coming off an oxy binge of 300 to 500 mg a day. One of my connections copped more 100s a few days ago and the wife and I decided to try browning after reading about it here and other sites.

It's a pretty nasty way to get high but I can't believe how high I got from the method. There's a nice sticky to the method on this site. I got damn high off 50 mg.

[Sunny]

I found NO euphoria, but really good pain relief and WD relief with morphine.


I actually get a pretty decent euphoric feeling from M, the buzz feels a lot more smooth and lasts pretty long (MS Contin) compared to oxycontin where my buzz peaks fast and leaves me low...

[TrackStar0420]

Hold hold hold on here, your saying banana peels don;t get you high?
Like I said I ended up eating a few and snorting some too. I felt great,, almost high(the first time ever off morphine) And at the same time I could blow two 80's in a day, and feel great. I should have been more clear with my average rate, is my stay well, and maybe a good 15 min high with each dose. I mainly just snort them, but have been trying to eat them(because the info. I;ve found on this site makes me feel like a drug abuser when I snort them,,,,and by abuser I mean wasting even that 15%) So I still have them, and am just going to eat them from hear on out, assuming thats the best bioavailability. Also Im not a fan of heating any opiates,(well other than fentanyl) Thanks for the help everyone!