Any way to cover the smell from dogs?

[Thebane]

SWIM is going for a long drive down the eastern seaboard with a half and was wondering if there's any way to hide the smell on the off chance I get pulled over and dogs are brought by. I think I've read here covering the backpack or whatever in dirty laundry works? That would be convenient since I have way too much dirty laundry. But, is that just a myth? Is there any real way that makes a difference?

I'm not too concerned about it, but I will be going down I-95 for a long while alone, young, and looking pretty ragged. Luckily I'm not Hispanic or Black or I'd be a profiling cops wet-dream.

[alowishus]

No.
If they can smell the blood of ancient mummies.....well you get the point.

[WhyCatsPaint]

Luckily I'm not Hispanic or Black or I'd be a profiling cops wet-dream.

So.............. um........ Your Asian?

[fassbinder]

Maybe you could just take pills on this trip. They don't train the dogs to smell those...do they? If the cops want to search you they will, dog or no dog - smell or no smell.

[okie dokie]

i have heard that puttin loose kitty liter over yer stash will work, not sure about that though.

[bronyraur]

There's all kinds of supposedly effective ways to cover the smell, but in all honesty, I don't buy any of it. If it's your turn to get busted, the dog is gonna find it.

[Thebane]

Yeah, I'm worried since almost every college kid on the east coast is going to NC and SC coast, and I imagine some cops along the way are probably trying to nail them all for drugs or alcohol. Then again, I'm going today (in the middle of the week when beach houses are rented from saturday to sunday) so hopefully I'm safe and the cops will be out on saturday and sunday when everyone (but me) is going to or leaving the beach.

[alowishus]

Don't get pulled over, it's not hard.
If you give them a reason to stop you... then, it's your fault.

Don't speed, drive drunk, act like a fuckhead, tailgate, etc.

It's not hard NOT to get stopped, I never understood it. :rolleyes:

I've driven 95 the length of the country over 20 times, and I've never been stopped....just be smart.

[Thebane]

Don't get pulled over, it's not hard.
If you give them a reason to stop you... then, it's your fault.

Don't speed, drive drunk, act like a fuckhead, tailgate, etc.

It's not hard NOT to get stopped, I never understood it. :rolleyes:

I've driven 95 the length of the country over 20 times, and I've never been stopped....just be smart.

Good point, I usually speed by 5-10 over, but in this case, you're right, it's just not worth being pulled over for.

[Papa Verine]

I've started a similar post here before. I never got any solid answers from someone who knew what the fuck they were talking about.

I wish I could have access to one of those dogs. I'd like to get a bag of dope and try a few different things to see if anything works.

My common sense tells me that if you soaked a paper towel in ammonia and bagged that up around your stash, a drug-sniffing dog wouldn't be able to smell the dope inside. I just don't know for sure...

I wouldn't be worried about it if I were you. Do what Allow said... drive careful, obey all the laws, take your time. What are the chances really?

[alowishus]

I've started a similar post here before. I never got any solid answers from someone who knew what the fuck they were talking about.

I wish I could have access to one of those dogs. I'd like to get a bag of dope and try a few different things to see if anything works.

My common sense tells me that if you soaked a paper towel in ammonia and bagged that up around your stash, a drug-sniffing dog wouldn't be able to smell the dope inside. I just don't know for sure...

I wouldn't be worried about it if I were you. Do what Allow said... drive careful, obey all the laws, take your time. What are the chances really?


That ex-cop Barry goes over some of that stuff in his video, he used to train sniffer dogs, he was the top drug cop in TX, before he came to the dark side.

There really is no way, and even if the dog doesn't hit on anything, the cop can and DOES make the dog appear too, just so he can do a search.

[Dan K]

I would apply the same techniques I use for cannabis.

hermetically seal your goods in a vac bag, wash w alcohol (dogs smell resin) and seal again. This at least can buy you peace of mind, and possibly make you less nervous should you get pulled over.

Wear latex gloves as you do all this, and wash wash wash....

Hope that helps.

(srry this came before my intro post, but I thought i'd just jump in here)

[Papa Verine]

I would apply the same techniques I use for cannabis.

hermetically seal your goods in a vac bag, wash w alcohol (dogs smell resin) and seal again. This at least can buy you peace of mind, and possibly make you less nervous should you get pulled over.

Wear latex gloves as you do all this, and wash wash wash....

Hope that helps.

(srry this came before my intro post, but I thought i'd just jump in here)

And if it works for Cannabis... it just might work for Cannabis too!

[okie dokie]

And if it works for Cannabis... it just might work for Cannabis too!

dang it, you beat me to it!!

[squareone]

watch the " Never Get Busted" its a series done by an ex-cop, he shows you how to not get caught by dogs etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW8tyTgoQiI

[Dan K]

And if it works for Cannabis... it just might work for Cannabis too!


If it works on cannabis, it may also work on ganja.... so I've heard.

[imalgen]

I would apply the same techniques I use for cannabis.

hermetically seal your goods in a vac bag, wash w alcohol (dogs smell resin) and seal again. This at least can buy you peace of mind, and possibly make you less nervous should you get pulled over.

Wear latex gloves as you do all this, and wash wash wash....

Hope that helps.

(srry this came before my intro post, but I thought i'd just jump in here)


Wash hands
put on Gloves
Wash gloves
put in ziploc or vac bag
wash bag
put on NEW clean gloves
wash gloves
put Vaseline on outside of first bag
put on new clean gloves
wash gloves
put first bag in second bag
repeat - you should only have to Vaseline the first bag, then bag 4x after - changing gloves and washing hands/gloves for each new bag.

This works on airplanes as well, at least 20+ times completed with zero issues.

[alowishus]

This being a non-issues really, I look at it like this, if the drug cartels that have bazillions dollars to spend and do spend it on old Russian subs can't come up w/ a way to get it passed the dogs....

Cadaver dogs can smell a body that has been encased in cement....a dogs nose is the holy grail of sent.
Not all dogs are trained the same, and they have good days and bad days.

But you can not hide a sent from a dog, just can't.
The way we use our eyes they use their noses, they see w/ sent, sure they'll smell the cleaner, or the coffee or whatever else, but they will also smell the drugs...it's fact.

[losangeleslifer]

I wonder what the statistic for dogs NOT catching the scent or hitting on contraband?

Seems fair to think that a dog could be thrown off a scent by something more appealing to it's senses. It's still an animal.

[nick]

And if it works for Cannabis... it just might work for Cannabis too!

Very true,but he's right.This exactly what pro smugglers do with large amounts-vacuum seal and an alcohol/petrol wash.


Fassbinder is right though,if the cops want you.........you're screwed.Dogs or no dogs.

[hovadagod]

If a cop wants to search you he will cause the dog to bark even if the dog doesn't smell drugs. These dogs bark on cue. Dogs don't have morals. Do pigs?

My point is that once a cop brings out a dog you are most definitely getting searched.

[lotus]

i know a can/us boarder guard. there is no way to hide the smell from the dogs. not shrink wrap and pepper (that's a big one), not mess'd in kitty litter, not scent from a bitch in heat......people have tired with human poo too but i won't go there......you could encase the crap in lead then bury it 6 ft under and the dogs would still find it.

most of the tricks to mask weed stink are done with "lets trick the dog" in mind - if the dogs weren't train'd to ignore everything but the scent of drugs/guns/money they could work but....that's not the way the weenie wiggles~

[Shadowsblaze]

I read an article years ago that said to pass a school in Virginia dogs had to find reefer buried 18 inches under ground. At that time the best find by a dog was one joint in a box in a navy man's footlocker. But I think just the disturbance of the soil could cause a dog to react. Good Luck

[alowishus]

I wonder what the statistic for dogs NOT catching the scent or hitting on contraband?

Seems fair to think that a dog could be thrown off a scent by something more appealing to it's senses. It's still an animal.

Very true, but it doesn't mean the dog doesn't smell it what your trying to hide.

A shark can smell blood like 5 miles away. I know they don't have drug sniffing sharks but just as a point, of how strong the sniffer are on some animals. But I bet most peeps wouldn't try to carry drug if they had to get in a tank w/ a fucking shark...eh?

Some people said to use hot dogs or meat, or dog food. Maybe if the dog is hungry but that is also gonna get the dog real worked up, which will get you searched... But if the dog is trained right none of that will work.
I'm not saying sniffer dogs are infallible, certainly not but trying to hide or mask or "get one over" on the dog just aint gonna happen, that schnoz is gonna pick it up.

Don't forget, they can do a search for weapons w/ out your OK, then find something used for masking/hiding drug scent (I just realized I'd been typing sent...I'm a fookin' idiot!!) then the cop don't need a dog. ;);)

[hovadagod]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B24t-Z4nZIU&feature=related

watch this video. Skip to 1:52 and 5:00. I don't think I agree with this guy saying you should consent but listen to what this former cop says about drug sniffing dogs.

Edit:
I didn;t find the exact part where he discusses drug sniffing dogs so just watch it.

[digby]

I once saw a movie where they did what seems to be the only logical way to beat the dogs, and that was by temporarily eliminating the dogs keen sense of smell. This was done with some hot pepper powder in the movie - dog sniffs it and his sense of smell gets temporarily anesthetized. Who knows if it actually works though. And even if it did, seems that the dog's sense of smell going haywire around you or your vehicle would be a big tip off.

[nick]

I once saw a movie where they did what seems to be the only logical way to beat the dogs, and that was by temporarily eliminating the dogs keen sense of smell. This was done with some hot pepper powder in the movie - dog sniffs it and his sense of smell gets temporarily anesthetized. Who knows if it actually works though. And even if it did, seems that the dog's sense of smell going haywire around you or your vehicle would be a big tip off.

Aniseed does much the same thing.

[mikey5string]

i had this book when i was a kid called "the making of a ninja" (yes, i know)
i remember it saying if you were being chased by dogs (by scent) to leave a trail of red pepper and it would throw off the scent.

I never was chased by bloodhounds in all my ninja escapades but I did use some of the hiding tactics to hide in my backyard. Unfortunately nobody really ever looked for me and I was forced to come inside when it got dark or I got hungry.

My ninja skills foiled once again!!!

[covv799ss]

have you heard anything about cellophane? i know there are a lot of myths going around about cayenne pepper, etc., but there seems to be a grain of truth in the whole cellophane thing. i read something a long time ago about vacuum sealing shit in cellophane and dipping it in some kind of solvent (formaldehyde?) to kill whatever residual odors were on the bag. i can't seem to find it though.

"cellophane, which is largely impermeable to gas, is commonly used to conceal the smell of drugs and avoid detection by drug dogs. See United States v. $129,727 U.S. Currency, 129 F.3d 486, 490 (9th Cir.1997) (linking money wrapped in fabric softener sheets and plastic wrap with drug related activity)."

http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/c/F3/283/283.F3d.977.00-55875.html

http://www.onlinepot.org/legal/trainertips.htm

(not sure if this one is bogus or not...)

[hovadagod]

^are you a lawyer ?

[Thebane]

I would apply the same techniques I use for cannabis.

hermetically seal your goods in a vac bag, wash w alcohol (dogs smell resin) and seal again. This at least can buy you peace of mind, and possibly make you less nervous should you get pulled over.

Wear latex gloves as you do all this, and wash wash wash....

Hope that helps.

(srry this came before my intro post, but I thought i'd just jump in here)

Yeah, I'm going to make sure it's bagged and sealed air tight multiple times (and throw my dirty laundry on top of it, since I have to put the clothes somewhere in the car).

I might even have gift wrapping paper pre-cut to wrap a little box. If I do I might put the weed in the box and then wrap it and put a bow on it. Then I could say search all you want to the cop and he wouldn't find it, obviously I'd object if he tried to open the gift which I doubt he would, then he'd call the dogs like he would in the first place, so at worst it would be the same as not wrapping it.

Sort of off-topic but I started the thread! Two Questions:

1) What do you guys think I (or anyone) should do if a cop asks to search and all I have is carefully concealed weed like in the scenario above? I'm thinking I should say "yes" if it is well hidden, like gift-wrapped, where I could tell him he didn't have permission to open it unless he had probable cause. If it's just in a bag, then I'd definetely say no to the search. Even though he might call for dogs.

2) This determines how you answer #1 in my mind. The question is, how often do cops bother calling for a k-9 if they have no real reason to suspect you of having anything but you said no to a search? If they tend not to, obviously you'd always say no to a search. But if they call them 50% of the time, I think you'd be better off saying yes to a search and hoping they weren't very thorough.

So what's everyone's experiences with agreeing or disagreeing with searches and whether or not K-9s were called?

I would apply the same techniques I use for cannabis.

hermetically seal your goods in a vac bag, wash w alcohol (dogs smell resin) and seal again. This at least can buy you peace of mind, and possibly make you less nervous should you get pulled over.

Wear latex gloves as you do all this, and wash wash wash....

Hope that helps.

(srry this came before my intro post, but I thought i'd just jump in here)

Yeah, unfortunately I can't really hold onto alcohol (or formaldehyde?) and I'm broke, so I can't like sanitize the outside of the bag. I'm just going to keep re-bagging and washing my hand with like 6 bags, hopefully by the end there won't be much on the outside of the last bag. And that's not really to fool any dogs so much as for peace of mind that my weed and pipe won't stink up the car during the six hour ride. I hate driving with badly packaged weed that you notice you can sort of smell, and you're never sure if your whole car and person reeks or not.

[Indy]

In the same idea of putting it in a gift box, put it in a USPS box, seal it up, turn into "mail", then they probably aren't going to mess with that unless the dog detects something in it, which, if you wrap it up well enough, it won't. I'm not sure but they might even need a special warrant to open up a package.

You can actually get scent proof bags from bait shops, and i've heard those work really well.

[Thebane]

In the same idea of putting it in a gift box, put it in a USPS box, seal it up, turn into "mail", then they probably aren't going to mess with that unless the dog detects something in it, which, if you wrap it up well enough, it won't. I'm not sure but they might even need a special warrant to open up a package.

You can actually get scent proof bags from bait shops, and i've heard those work really well.

Yeah, I think ideas like this would make a good topic for a thread. Someone mentioned putting H in a crushed up can and I read it today and thought it was brilliant. There's got to be a lot of clever ways to make cops more likely to ignore whatever your dope is in.

[PrisonHer]

i had this book when i was a kid called "the making of a ninja" (yes, i know)
i remember it saying if you were being chased by dogs (by scent) to leave a trail of red pepper and it would throw off the scent.

I never was chased by bloodhounds in all my ninja escapades but I did use some of the hiding tactics to hide in my backyard. Unfortunately nobody really ever looked for me and I was forced to come inside when it got dark or I got hungry.

My ninja skills foiled once again!!!

haha.. that was funny. thanks.

[Dan Steely]

When I saw the title of the thread I thought you meant something to cover up the odor of smelly dogs.:D

I was gonna be all like why don't you try washing it.

I guess given the nature of this forum I probably shoulda known what you meant.

[Mulch]

Swim may have missed a reply if somebody already said it, but two words: Mason Jar. The same glass jars grandma sealed and pickled her veggies in. The jars can be found in basically any grocery store, and the secret is:

1) Clean them out with HOT (this is important) soapy (just like doing the dishes:)).
2) Let the jar cool, and make sure it's completely dry.
3) Do the lid(little top with actually rubber seal) last, this will insure that the rubber seal is still soft when you seal your jar, and when it's done correctly creates an airtight seal on your jar after it has cooled.

Swim gets stuff that smells like a dead animal :D, and has never ever had a problem :-)

Few more notes, and just common sense: make sure you only have ONE jar (lucky for you they come in all different shapes and sizes:D), make sure your car's lights are in order, the car is properly registered, has a valid inspection sticker, and all that other good stuff. Happy and safe travels!

[Chipper]

Any way to cover the smell from dogs?

Better still, wash the dogs more often!

(That's actually what I thought when I read this thread - I must be going a bit mad ...)

[Morfiend]

There are a few things you can do.

(1) You could hide your bag in a box with food also in it so when the dog alerts to it the police may assume the dog is just hungry.

(2) You could buy one of those pet trainers that emits a high pitched frequency that only dogs can hear and HATE and just tape over the button to activate it as soon as a cop pulls you over. The dog won't go anywhere near your car.

(3) You could just turn that stash into brownies... it's too much trouble for them to investigate your brownies.