Asshole Pharmacist

[Bateman54199]

I went to the pharmacy that I always go to the other day after seeing my CP doc with my normal scripts. I went after work (I'm a suit) and still had on my shirt and tie, looking very presentable (not to be discriminate but this just adds to my story).

I handed the pharmacist my script for Opana 40's (i had others but i gave them this one first to see if they had enough to fill it) and the 1 woman said "we have these and it'll take about 15 mins if you want to wait"

Then this other asshole pharmacist guy comes over and grabs the script from her, gives it back to me, and says "I DON'T HAVE THESE" then he goes on to say, "Did you drive here, you shouldn't be driving, you're probably really high on pills right now. I'll give you a 2 minute head start to get out of here before I call the police and report you for DUI"

I swear to christ this happened. I wanted to punch the mother-fucker in the mouth. But instead I grabbed my scripts, ran my ass out the store, got in my car and jetted like no-one's business and went to another pharm where they were super-friendly and I had $75 in copay's that they waived for me (awesome!)

[HydroApe]

What is it with these tools lately.
He had no fucking idea why you needed the script.
You could have had cancer for all he knew.
I would have let him call the cops and called the manager in as well.
Man this pisses me off!

[losangeleslifer]

What a fucking creep. Whats this world coming to?

Glad you got taking care of at that other place man.

[oxyjon]

I can not believe you had to go through that. That is bullshit. I'd be so mad that I'd contact his superiors about his uncalled for behavior. Damn that pisses me off.

[Bateman54199]

Yea, since it is my normal pharm i am pretty certain i am going to go back and complain to his superiors. but at the same time, I found a new pharm that doesn't make you pay copay's so, "blessing in disguise" ??

[OxiContinKing]

Yea, since it is my normal pharm i am pretty certain i am going to go back and complain to his superiors. but at the same time, I found a new pharm that doesn't make you pay copay's so, "blessing in disguise" ??

I would stick with your new 'blessing in disguise'.

They want to be assholes, let them deal with assholes.

Your not one, so take your business elsewhere, my friend, where it is appreciated. Ecspecially if it also saves you money - shit - cant beat that.

[God_Albino]

dressing too nice seems to be more of a warning sign to some docs/er folks/pharmacists than going there unbathed in ratty ass clothes. that shits still unexcusable, id almost want to wait till the cops got there

[Madam Oxy]

Yeah, I think I would have stayed also....I mean to me running proved his point.

I would like to think that I handed him all my scripts and sat down to wait for them. Seriously, who in the hell does the pharmacist think he is? I dress nice all the time also (usually have on 15 -18 carats of diamonds set in platinum, and buy all of my clothes from Nordstroms), regardless of what I"m wearing...he should just shut the Fuck up and fill my script. While he was calling the cops, I would have been calling his manager.

What are the cops going to do? Most know that if you've been on med for awhile you've built up a tolerance. And if they make you do any of the tests for drunk driving...you'll pass. And think about it...if he's done this before the police are probably saying, "oh here he goes again..."

And I always try to call my pills my 'medication'. To me it doesn;t sound 'druggy' if you're taking your medication. :rolleyes:

MAN, THIS REALLY PISSES ME OFF!!!

[mikey5string]

why did you leave?

i would have stayed and waited for the cops, then left and taken my business elsewhere.
I would also file a complaint with the pharmacy board or something.

I can understand them choosing not to carry certin meds but to carry them and then refuse a legit script?

[OxiContinKing]

Well, does he do this to every patient that comes in with a narcotic? if so, then wtf is the point of even carrying them? Just so he can get off on some CP patient who he *thinks* is a druggy? wtf bs stfu kthxbye.

[OxyBlowBall2]

yeah that guy seemed like a huge dick. i would def contact his superiors or the corporate office and file a complaint. that was totally uncalled for.

[nycjrt]

what a fucking dick- hearing shit like this really pisses me off. i've had some of the pharm-techs/counter persons act pretty rude and unprofessional when ordering my subs (and bupe before that), but when i hear of something so over the top, and concerning cp meds it really pisses me off. i really get angry every time i read (primarily on this board) about the hardships cp patients go through. glad to hear of the 'blessing in disguise', but sorry you had to go through such an embarrassing/degrading experience.
does anyone else remember 8-10 years ago when HIPPA was first enacted, the drugstores were taking patient privacy to (an almost absurd) level, not saying names out loud, issuing anonymous patient #s, etc. - it seems as though the past few years customer service has done a complete turn around, to the point of being outright disrespectful/abusive (in my experience = across the board with all the chain stores) - obv. the op's post is an extreme example, but even in filling out a script for antibiotics the pharm-techs/counter people will shout your info (name, scripts, etc) across their work area, for all to hear - they especially seem to relish doing this when one buys syringes...

[limitless_euphoria]

Is it me or does it seem over the past two years ago pharmacists have become exceptional mega-polesmokers? I don't mean to dog anyone in the profession, if you're on here, but I know there's no way you'd treat someone like that so it's a moot point. OMG what an asshole!

[pokergooch]

I would have waited for the cops to show and then slapped one huge fucking law suit on them, unless, of coarse, you had reason not too, lol.

But that is bull shit.. total bullshit.

Sorry to add two posts. but, my pharmacist thinks that I get way too many narcotics, ect and he doesnt hide it. He is a total prick, but Ive known him for like 20 years, never been friends. but one time when I was filling my opana 10 ir I had to call my wife and ask her if it was ok to spend the almost 1k for them. I think the pharmacist thought I was calling around to see how much cash i could get. He even told me that he can refuse to fill a controlled script even if something smells fishy to him. I kind of find that hard to believe. but, yea I could see if 5 friends showed up with cash and then waited, he might have had a point. but those pharmacist pricks are mostly just that.

I have now switched to my pokerplaying buddy full time. He gives me no shit and have a great time playing poker..

[Larry]

Did you mention if this was a chain or just some mom and pop? That is harassment, plain and simple. If you didnt do anything wrong, not to mention no outstanding warrants or any bullshit I would of stayed. If its a chain call tomorrow and find out the pharmacists name, was it a pharmacist or some tech? Sorry its like 6am here and Ive been up for 2 days in WD so Im sorry if you did mention what his position was. If its a chain you damn better make sure to call them and raise hell.

A friend of mine had a similar situation happen but not NEAR as bad as yours, It happen at CVS, He called the corporate office.... Dude got into trouble & fired (apparantly hes fucked with other customers as well) and my buddy got a $50 GC.

Im willing to bet $$$ this isnt the first time this guy has treated a customer like absolute horse shit. Out of all the pharmacist horror stories I have experienced / Heard on the Board this def goes in the top 3

Fucking Sickening Plain & Simple

Lar

[bronyraur]

I would've been tempted to pull my gun on that cocksucker.

I would without a doubt report this pharmacist. Make sure you do it on the store level and corporate level. Also, don't forget to report him to the state board of pharmacy for unprofessional conduct.

This is truly unacceptable behavior, and we, as legit CP patients need to make a stand! Pharmacist and others in the medical field need to know that they CANNOT treat us like dirt.

[blenderqueen]

similar thing happened to a friend of mine. though she did wait til the cops showed up. and ROFLMAO, the cop chewed out the pharmacist! that was a while ago. I"ll ask her how the whole thing went down next time I talk to her and report back. I do recall though that the pharmacist was disciplined and I think she also got some kind of gift card or her scripts for free or something.

on a side note. (SWIM) has a dad who's Dr. and not the kind that has to write huge scripts. generally for acute pain. (think root canal). he always bitches about stupid pharmacists calling the office and saying. "we think so and so is abusing meds, blah blah" he will just say, "ok ok, I"ll keep that in mind, but they need their meds, just did work on em whatever. so fill it for him."

these are the people that make life hard for the Dr.s, the good ones at least, that are just doing their jobs.

asswipes.

[SHELLEY]

don't waste your time complaining, talking to managers, suing for "harassment" whatever
this pharmacist was an asshole, no question,
and what he said was completely rude and uncalled for
but so what? you'll get over it right?
who cares what some prick thinks about you and your scripts?
just don't go back there, tell your friends/family not to go back there
that's why capitalism is so great, there will be another pharmacy out there
who will happily take your money without being a total prick about your business

just brush the dirt off your shoulders, and move on

[lilred0005]

This is truly vile! As someone w/ cp, I know how it feels. Report this asshat, I now wish I didn't let things like this slide. Perfect example: I live in Florida, we have hurricanes. About 3yrs ago, we were expecting a big one(& we did get it) so I went to fill my OxyContin so I wouldn't be fucked if the pharmacy blew away(don't laugh, my Dr.'s office did blow away). I wanted name brand & my script had DAW on it. After 4 pharm were out, I settled on generic OC because the damn storm was making landfall. I was told I would never have my scripts filled there again & would be reported to my insurance co. for fraud because I took the generics. They try to make our lives hell and most of us just take it.

[roxi*stardust]

First you need to call the store, if it was a chain store call the home office; if not call and report his behavior to the manager. The second thing you need to do is call your State Board of Pharmacy and fill a complaint with them about this jerk. Don't let this go, no one should be treated that way just because they are being treated for CP. I don't know about the rest of you guys but I for one am sick and tired of ALL CP patients being treated like junkies with Leprosy! Don't let this one go Bateman

[losangeleslifer]

don't waste your time complaining, talking to managers, suing for "harassment" whatever
this pharmacist was an asshole, no question,
and what he said was completely rude and uncalled for
but so what? you'll get over it right?
who cares what some prick thinks about you and your scripts?
just don't go back there, tell your friends/family not to go back there
that's why capitalism is so great, there will be another pharmacy out there
who will happily take your money without being a total prick about your business

just brush the dirt off your shoulders, and move on

You know the thread was going great as far as advice and support. But then you couldn't let that happen. No way, got to chime in go against the grain.

Naw, assholes can be assholes all they want, EXCEPT if they work for a large corporation. Then they are bound to follow the rules of conduct according to personnel policies.

Just letting some asshole off the hook makes it easier to fuck with someone else.

FRY THE FUCKER! and let him brush the ashes of his shoulders!!!!

[Bateman54199]

I have followed the advice on this thread and i went back to the same pharm to fill a dated script and asked about the asshole ... and they said ... "HE GOT SUSPENDED" yeaaaaaaaaaaa fuck him

[SHELLEY]

yeah yeah everything i say is wrong blah blah blah
but no one likes to hear junkies whining all the time
just because someone made a comment that hurt their wittle feewings at the pharmacy

[nick]

yeah yeah everything i say is wrong blah blah blah
but no one likes to hear junkies whining all the time
just because someone made a comment that hurt their wittle feewings at the pharmacy

Apologies shelley,it's that worrying time again,I actually agree with you-apart from how great capitalism is anyway.

Bateman,I'm sorry,but really just laugh about it and move on.Take your business else where.There are too many jerks and life is too short to do anything else.

[taj]

I have followed the advice on this thread and i went back to the same pharm to fill a dated script and asked about the asshole ... and they said ... "HE GOT SUSPENDED" yeaaaaaaaaaaa fuck him

ha ha !!! good for you, he was probably a dick to a bunch of people.

Shelly and Nick, I get what you guys are saying, but when you have to deal with this bullshit all the time it gets old, and we are not doing anything wrong or illegal by filling our scripts, it's just plain discrimination and uncalled for. If people don't complain about this type of behavior, it's the same as condoning it imo.

[nick]

ha ha !!! good for you, he was probably a dick to a bunch of people.

Shelly and Nick, I get what you guys are saying, but when you have to deal with this bullshit all the time it gets old, and we are not doing anything wrong or illegal by filling our scripts, it's just plain discrimination and uncalled for. If people don't complain about this type of behavior, it's the same as condoning it imo.

Taj,I've been using for well over two decades,been using pharmacies for twenty years and know ALL about being mistreated.Hell,I've had people move away from me in a restaurant before and in the end it's like water off a duck's back.

It would be better for Bateman to use his time and energies finding a cool pharmacist than making what will most likely be a meaningless complaint.Plus there are much better ways to reduce stigma.

I guess I pick my battles more carefully these days-it's a privilege of getting old.

[lilred0005]

ha ha !!! good for you, he was probably a dick to a bunch of people.

Shelly and Nick, I get what you guys are saying, but when you have to deal with this bullshit all the time it gets old, and we are not doing anything wrong or illegal by filling our scripts, it's just plain discrimination and uncalled for. If people don't complain about this type of behavior, it's the same as condoning it imo.

I agree, that's why I wrote above one of the problems I had too & trust me, I have many more. Point is that now I wish I would of complained. If you say nothing, these assholes continue their destructive behavior. As cp patients, we deal w/ this shit all the time. First we have to deal w/ b.s. @ the Dr's office then @ the pharmacy too? It just gets overwhelming after awhile. That's why I love & appreciate my pharmacy. It's so nice to be treated respectfully & not have to deal w/ constant harassment. Obviously the pharmacist in the op fucked w/ a lot of ppl to get fired.

[feelings of u4ia]

EDIT: Not even worth it....

Although I just would like to add this: CP patient doesn't automatically make you a junkie. Don't start saying shit like you hate hearing junkies "whine," when you fit the mold better then we would.

[deltapsik0]

I have followed the advice on this thread and i went back to the same pharm to fill a dated script and asked about the asshole ... and they said ... "HE GOT SUSPENDED" yeaaaaaaaaaaa fuck him


You know what ? It sounds like he got caught up dude.. maybe he was doing some shady business under the table and had been called out or outed earlier that day / week, and he was over-compesating to try and make up for his wrong-full actions..

You just happened to be there at the wrong time wearing the wrong clothes ! (I to am a professional, but my office is casual all week hehe, but i understand).

Sounds like he got what he deserved tho.

[Indy]

Maybe he got caught or was suspected, and his boss told him not to handle controlled substances until it was sorted out, and he wanted to make it look like he didn't WANT to, when really he wasn't ALLOWED to. Sounds like a kinda far-fetched scenario, but it happened with a doctor I knew of personally a few years ago (it makes him sound bad, but really he wasn't a "pill mill", he was a REAL doctor, and a good, smart, compassionate one at that)

[Poppylvr]

I have followed the advice on this thread and i went back to the same pharm to fill a dated script and asked about the asshole ... and they said ... "HE GOT SUSPENDED" yeaaaaaaaaaaa fuck him
YAY!!
Bateman, I would still recommend that you follow through with a letter to your state's Board of Pharmacy. You can find it by looking on the (your state).gov under licensing or pharmacy.
You were able to get your meds filled elsewhere. But if he treated you like that you know he's treated others like that too. Be the voice for the shy, quiet CP patient who got the same treatment and didn't get her/his meds.

[jcmanny]

I'm glad to hear the asshole was suspended.

It's not a matter of OP's feelings being hurt, he was denied having his script filled and threatened with legal action. Great customer service to say the least.

My wife and I had some issues with a local Rite-aid. Just rude comments about our scripts, nothing like OP's fun. As other people suggested we took our business down the road (to the local CVS). While waiting to have script filled at CVS one day I was talking to the CVS pharmist. I mentioned the issues I had with the Rite-aid store and she said that they hear comments about that Rite-aid store at least once a week.

I'm sure many of the people complaining about that store will be just like me - I will do my best never to give Rite-aid another dime of my money.

My wife did complain to Rite-aid corporate headquarters. They didn't give a rat's ass.

[sigprn]

You should have immediately went to the store manager. You could have filed a complaint with him. Also could have got district pharmacy managers info. Finally call headquarters and report the s.o.b. So what if he called the cops. You couldn't have been arrested. It's not like they seen you driving. You could have said a taxi dropped me off. The pharmacist could be fired over this.

[SHELLEY]

EDIT: Not even worth it....

Although I just would like to add this: CP patient doesn't automatically make you a junkie. Don't start saying shit like you hate hearing junkies "whine," when you fit the mold better then we would.

oh sorry did i say junkie? i meant someone who is addicted to drugs
and sure i fit the junkie mold, have i ever denied it? but i'm not the only one
and yes being a cp is so very different from using drugs every day to feel good.... somehow i guess

also i did not say that "I" don't like to hear junkies whine
i said that most people don't like to hear junkies whine (pharmacists, managers, etc)
and it's hard to find a non-junkie terribly sympathetic to your
"that guy was a prick and didn't give me my oxycontin" problems
and however it should be, that's the fucking way it is
don't get pissy at me over the way shit is

discrimination? please....
all i ever hear about is how cp patients are so discriminated against
and people don't want to fill their scripts and docs don't take them seriously
and the insurance companies make them pay a copay or blah blah blah
yes, it's a shitty situation, but if you want opiates enough then a shitty doc/pharmacy
will NOT be able to stop you from getting your pain taken care of
determination, especially in the hands of a junkie (i'm sorry, drug user) will get you drugs

[In2TheWoods]

oh sorry did i say junkie? i meant someone who is addicted to drugs
and sure i fit the junkie mold, have i ever denied it? but i'm not the only one
and yes being a cp is so very different from using drugs every day to feel good.... somehow i guess

also i did not say that "I" don't like to hear junkies whine
i said that most people don't like to hear junkies whine (pharmacists, managers, etc)
and it's hard to find a non-junkie terribly sympathetic to your
"that guy was a prick and didn't give me my oxycontin" problems
and however it should be, that's the fucking way it is
don't get pissy at me over the way shit is

discrimination? please....
all i ever hear about is how cp patients are so discriminated against
and people don't want to fill their scripts and docs don't take them seriously
and the insurance companies make them pay a copay or blah blah blah
yes, it's a shitty situation, but if you want opiates enough then a shitty doc/pharmacy
will NOT be able to stop you from getting your pain taken care of
determination, especially in the hands of a junkie (i'm sorry, drug user) will get you drugs


Wow. It's not true to say that most people are unsympathetic towards chronic pain patients. Most people are very empathetic when they hear what people deal with. And regardless of what you think, there is definitivelya difference between addiction and use for chronic pain even when that involves dependance. That is true on a physiological level. There are of course people with chronic pain that are addicted, but it just is not the same thing.


I'm sure you're an empathetic person and if you witnessed the reality of real chronic pain in someone you cared about you wouldn't minimize it like that. I've never in my life even argued with someone online but I am just infuriated by what you said. Maybe i'm over reacting because yesterday I had to make an appointment to have my fucking uterus cut out and I'm 27 years old and I've always wanted to be a mother, but it's the only way to stop the pain. And for you to reduce that to the "blah blah blah" of just having to go out of your way to find drugs is really hard to take right now.


Again, perhaps the timing of what I'm dealing with has lead me to be over sensitive to your comments, but then again maybe you shouldn't talk about what you haven't lived and don't know anything about.

[taj]

Wow. It's not true to say that most people are unsympathetic towards chronic pain patients. Most people are very empathetic when they hear what people deal with. And regardless of what you think, there is definitivelya difference between addiction and use for chronic pain even when that involves dependance. That is true on a physiological level. There are of course people with chronic pain that are addicted, but it just is not the same thing.
I'm sure you're an empathetic person and if you witnessed the reality of real chronic pain in someone you cared about you wouldn't minimize it like that. I've never in my life even argued with someone online but I am just infuriated by what you said. Maybe i'm over reacting because yesterday I had to make an appointment to have my fucking uterus cut out and I'm 27 years old and I've always wanted to be a mother, but it's the only way to stop the pain. And for you to reduce that to the "blah blah blah" of just having to go out of your way to find drugs is really hard to take right now.
Again, perhaps the timing of what I'm dealing with has lead me to be over sensitive to your comments, but then again maybe you shouldn't talk about what you haven't lived and don't know anything about.

You're not over reacting, I hear you 100%, I completely agree. I just have to remind myself that most of the members here don't share her opinion about our treatment as chronic pain patients.

The poster you are responding to has NO idea about the realities people like us have to deal with. When one is brought down by debilitating chronic pain, and everything that goes with this kind of life, determination is much more difficult than it may seem.

In2TheWoods, I'm so sorry with what you have had to deal with, especially these past few days. I wish you all the best and am sending warm thoughts your way.

[feelings of u4ia]

Glad someone shared my views about how ignorant SHELLEY is being towards CP patients. Most, if not all CP patients I know...would rather wake up with NO pain anymore, then to have to live their life on meds. CP patients barely even get a buzz from their meds anymore, it's strictly to help cope with the pain.

As someone else said, don't judge people unless you have personally lived it. Going out to cop on the street because you want to get high is extremely different then going to the pharmacy to pick up the medicaiton that you need to function with because your pain is so debiliatating. On top of that, we have to deal with pharmacists who want to look at us, and treat us like people copping on the street. It's not the same, and we shouldn't have to deal with it.

[OxiContinKing]

REALIZED I DIDNT WANT TO OPEN THAT CAN OF WORMS...

[SHELLEY]

you're right, i don't know what pain is, i am just a junkie
i shall now shut the fuck up (first time for everything right?)

[OxiContinKing]

you're right, i don't know what pain is, i am just a junkie
i shall now shut the fuck up (first time for everything right?)

Didnt you pop out one of those baby things?

I know thats not CP, but i think that has to classify on some level as some kind of pain...

Sorry, I'm just being a smart ass.

So, how about them Lakers?

PS. I am so glad to hear that the SOB got suspended...fired should have been more like it...yeah jobless...and in W/D's...yeah...fucker...

[SHELLEY]

^
i had a baby w/o painkillers, i been shot and had my knee rebuilt, i been stabbed, i been beaten up
i cut out a fat chunk of my arm that had staph....

but to be honest, none of that is "chronic pain" it's temporary pain

[OxiContinKing]

OMG please dont tell me you are another one of those 'I cut the abcess/infection out of myself' people.

I dont see how in the hell you (or anyone else could ever do this shit).

One of my best (junkie) friends has done this numerous times.

How many of you on here have actually done this, also?

SON OF A BITCH...

I tremble just thinking about it...

[lespaulpower]

been shot
been stabbed
ben beaten
been broken
Ya I had ma share of pain
But it all just part of da game
Cut a chunk ouutta ma arm to cyoor staph infection
I popped a babay ouutta me without no pain injektion.....

This could be the start to a good rap. :p

Haha, J/P J/P

[lotus]

i can't even begin to imagine what you poor bastards have to go thru.

i live in a town of 110,000 with a shoppers drug mart on every corner - i've known many pharm techs and they're (pharmacists especially....no matter how warm and wide the smile) all bias as fuk. you go in for anything other than 30 t3's and you're "an addict". then they look at what you're getting and which dr it's from to decide just how "bad" you really are.....worst of all is their relentless and verbal belief that unless you're dying of cancer nsaids and flexerol are the end all and be all.

i think alot of people don't realize how often c.p is under medicated, and how difficult it is to bring the pain back down once it's gone up......combine that with physical dependence and rebound syndrome is it any wonder why desperate need of pain relief begins to look like flat out dope fiend junky?

shitty, underRx'ing doctors is what pushes someone physically dependent into becoming an addict, not enough drug to keep pain free.

[OxiContinKing]

i can't even begin to imagine what you poor bastards have to go thru.

i live in a town of 110,000 with a shoppers drug mart on every corner - i've known many pharm techs and they're (pharmacists especially....no matter how warm and wide the smile) all bias as fuk. you go in for anything other than 30 t3's and you're "an addict". then they look at what you're getting and which dr it's from to decide just how "bad" you really are.....worst of all is their relentless and verbal belief that unless you're dying of cancer nsaids and flexerol are the end all and be all.

i think alot of people don't realize how often c.p is under medicated, and how difficult it is to bring the pain back down once it's gone up......combine that with physical dependence and rebound syndrome is it any wonder why desperate need of pain relief begins to look like flat out dope fiend junky?

shitty, underRx'ing doctors is what pushes someone physically dependent into becoming an addict, not enough drug to keep pain free.

Thats *almost* the can of worms I decided not to open up...

Not quite, but close.

[feelings of u4ia]

My whole thing is that most CP patients didn't choose nor did they want to have to rely on meds for everything. You can't group them into the same category of someone who goes and buys crack off the corner for fun. And they shouldn't be treated like that either.

[SHELLEY]

been shot
been stabbed
ben beaten
been broken
Ya I had ma share of pain
But it all just part of da game
Cut a chunk ouutta ma arm to cyoor staph infection
I popped a babay ouutta me without no pain injektion.....

This could be the start to a good rap. :p

Haha, J/P J/P

i'd bump that :)

[lotus]

Thats *almost* the can of worms I decided not to open up...

Not quite, but close.


sorry.

when i was younger it was like - almost like i took it as a personal assault that pain patients got drugs and whether they worked or not "fuck off and don't complain" was sorta my view. was my view. the pissyness in that prevented me from realizing just what was, and wasn't, really going on.

[jcmanny]

OMG please dont tell me you are another one of those 'I cut the abcess/infection out of myself' people.

I dont see how in the hell you (or anyone else could ever do this shit).

One of my best (junkie) friends has done this numerous times.

How many of you on here have actually done this, also?

SON OF A BITCH...

I tremble just thinking about it...


I agree, that is some hardcore behavior! I'm sure the self surgeons were very well medicated when they performed their operation. Eeek.

[SHELLEY]

^
why would anyone go to the hospital for something they can do themselves?
i knew what they were gonna do, and i had a needle and a knife right there in my apartment
what's the point of sitting in an ER for hours? what, were they gonna give me vicodin?
i had coke and heroin, i didn't need their fucking doctor drugs :)

[losangeleslifer]

^
i had a baby w/o painkillers, i been shot and had my knee rebuilt, i been stabbed, i been beaten up
i cut out a fat chunk of my arm that had staph....

but to be honest, none of that is "chronic pain" it's temporary pain


Sure.